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Kommentar von Catria

I think as a 'mercenary of sholazar' it makes sense, because your loyalty lies with the highest bidder, right?

Kommentar von 112290

I figured out how this is done tonight. There is a daily quest that you can do to kill this elite in a cave in Sholazar. He has 2 prisoners with him, one frenzyheart NPC and another oracle NPC. At about 30% or so he shields himself immune and you can either kill the frenzyheart or oracle npc then the other one helps you finish off the mob. Whichever one you "saved" makes you immediately hated with the other faction and puts you up to whatever your highest rep level with the saved faction was. So I can stay frenzyheart and do the dailies till exalted, then do the change faction daily and save the oracle and do the dailies with them till exalted.

Pretty cool idea if you ask me.

Kommentar von 249578

The following are the quests that allow you to switch factions.

For oracles:
http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=12689
For frenzyheart:
http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=12582

Kommentar von questarey

www.wowwiki.com has good info about this. For the lazy people i will quote what's seems to be an issue for you ^^

To switch factions from Frenzyheart Tribe to The Oracles you must defeat Artruis the Heartless, a level 77 elite that is soloable by many classes. During the fight with Artruis you are attacked by both an Oracle (Jaloot) and a Frenzyheart (Zepik) , you must leave the Jaloot the Oracle alive and kill Zepik the Frenzyheart, then finish defeating Artrius in order for the Oracle Hand of the Oracles quest giver to appear. Completing this quest automatically boots your rep to honored, but REDUCES your frenzyheart tribe rep to hated, so make sure you finish up anything you wish to do with the frenzyheart before completing this task.

This works the same the other way around ofcourse, hope this helps you people out :)

Kommentar von 7599

Here's a well-written FAQ about this: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=12891011239&sid=1

It indicates that when you drop one reputation, its current level is stored, and if you ever come back, you will pick up where you left off.

Of course, it may be incorrect.

Kommentar von Nienie

I made exalted Frenzyheart a few days ago. I switched to Oracles and was 0/12000 honored. Since I've been busy lately, I haven't been able to do any Oracles dailies, and I'm still 0/12000 honored. I decided to test what rep I would be at if I changed back to Frenzyheart..

Results: I went to 0/12000 honored with Frenzyheart.

Kommentar von 229323

If they made this achievement a title, it might be the coolest title in the game

Kommentar von 190461

I just switched factions tonight. I was previously Exalted with the Oracles and had worked to revered with the Frenzyheart when it was time to switch and get the egg again for the pet. When I did the quest I went to 0/12000 honored with the Oracles. After asking a GM it was confirmed that this is the way it is intended to work. So beware if your trying for this achievement, make sure you hit exalted with the one you want to keep last as every time you switch you will go back to honored.

Kommentar von uglybot

Only one faction (whichever you leave at exalted) will count toward the 40 Exalted Reputations achievement. Don't expect both of them to count - once you switch from one to the other, and lose exalted status, the number on that achievement will go down by one.

Edit: although this was true at the time of the post, the mechanic changed after a hotfix, and now is tracking all factions having been raised to exalted, not maintained at exalted. Corrections below are true after the hotfix.

Kommentar von 304507

Ok, The problem is I got exalted with Frenzyheart, did the switching faction q correctly - got honored with Oracles and hated with Frenzyheart. BUT I can't do any q now with Oracles, the guy who gives dailies just doesn't give me anything. (The Oracles are green now and talk, I can buy from their QM, etc.) Any1 has changed factions and got same problem or any idea from any1? ty.

Kommentar von 327098

For those wondering, here is Artruis the Heartless

Kommentar von taohu

the quest for switching is considered a daily, so you can only switch once a day. You can get a max of 1.7k rep through the 3 dailies thus you will need 20 days from 0/12k honoured to hit exalted.
On a side note, you can buy and keep the rep rewards that have a duration, such as the jar from frenzyheart or mysterious egg then switch factions then get the contents of the item 7 days after even if you don't have the rep. At least that worked for me as of 3.0.8. You will also retain the jc pattern you learnt while you have the rep to buy it in your profession list as you switch factions.

Kommentar von Ruhler

Oracles have more to offer with their egg, than the Frenzyheart jar, and to get everything it'll take you a number of weeks. So I did Frenzyheart 1st so I can stick with Oracles for the duration, and get those pets and mount. So far 2/2 proto-drake whelps....

Kommentar von 345174

If one does all three dailies for either faction every day, and once he hits exalted with one faction, switches to the other and does their dailies, it should take 39-40 days to complete this achievement (20 days for each, but once you hit exalted you can start the other which is two days in one). This is for non-humans.

Kommentar von 345174

The Frenzyheart Tribe is one of the two main factions in Sholzaar Basin (the other being The Oracles). To earn reputation to exalted with either reputation, you must first begin this quest: http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=12528. This begins a quest in which you act as a slave to repay the Frenzyheart Tribe for their stolen kill. This quest line will earn you reputation towards the Frenzyheart Tribe. Now if you have already looked at the Oracles' rewards and the Frenzyheart Tribe's rewards, you probably will prefer the Oracles' rewards more (four pets and a proto-drake), vs. the one transformation item that the Frenzyheart offer. Do not worry: This quest line must be done to earn reputation with either faction.

When you begin this quest line, you will first start off by earning the reputation of the Frenzyheart. You will continue their series of quest lines, until you get to the point that you save the Oracle. Accepting this Oracle's quest will make you hostile/hated with Frenzyheart but friendly with The Oracles. You will then follow their series of quest lines to earn reputation with the Oracles.

You will finally come to the final quest of the series: http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=12581. In this quest, you will fight an elite that doesn't do too much damage, but unprepared foes may have trouble. During this fight he will have standard damage, with Frostbolts and melee; but at 30%, he shields himself and releases two prisoners: An Oracle and a Frenzyheart. This is where you choose which faction you want; you will kill your enemy (whichever you choose), and then your new ally will help you defeat Artruis. After killing Artruis, the saved ally will become a quest-giver. The ally will give you a DAILY quest that makes you 0/12,000 honored with the ally's faction, and the proportionally-opposite reputation for the faction of the enemy that you killed. Upon completing this daily quest, you will be able to go back to the faction's base camp and do three daily quests that will earn you reputation. There is a total of 8 daily quests, three of which appear each day. There is one daily quest for each reputation that is always shown every day, and then a daily quest that is chosen from a random four. This daily quest will be a random task that is done in the Basin. The final third daily is a random choice of three. These three dailies are quests that command you to kill 30 or 50 mobs of the opposing faction using different methods. This genocidal daily quest will give you 700 reputation each day (no matter which daily), and the other two dailies will give 500 reputation each (1700 each day -- at most 20 days of doing all three dailies a day will get you 999/1000 exalted.

The faction that you choose can be changed. In order to change your decision (no matter the reputation you have currently), if you redo the Artruis event saving the NPC of the faction you want, you will become 0/12000 honored of that faction. NOTE: Redoing this quest and choosing the faction that you are affiliated with currently will reduce your reputation to 0/12000 honored, even if you are higher than that. Also note that switching factions, and then switching again (example; Oracles -> Frenzyheart -> Oracles) will still leave you at 12000.

So now you know the basics. Which reputation do you choose?
The main reason people earn reputation with these factions is to purchase the egg or jar that presents the user with a reward after 7 days. The egg is from the Oracles and the jar is from the Frenzyheart.
There are four companion pets that are available from The Oracles. These pets will be easily found in the egg that is bought at revered. However, these pets are not bind-on-pickup, and therefore can be bought/sold via the AH. There are also two other awards: A proto-drake mount, that has a ~5% chance to drop from the egg, and aged yolk, a food item that is like normal food.
The jar rewards level 70-type potions (mana, health or rejuvenation) but also has a chance to drop http://www.wowhead.com/?item=44719, which disguises the person who uses it.

There are also five achievements associated with these factions. Two of which require you to earn exalted with the respective factions, and the third requires you to earn exalted with both (not at the same time). The fourth and fifth require you to do all 8 dailies of each faction.

Now personally, I chose Frenzyheart first because I wanted the Mercenary of Sholzaar achievement and I knew the Green Proto-Drake would take some time for me to get. Once I finished all 8 daily quests and got exalted, as well as got the brew I switched to the Oracles. I currently have all the pets and am waiting on the proto-drake. Once I get exalted and the drake, I think I will switch back to Frenzyheart as the daily that requires me to kill the Oracles lets me kill mobs that drop clams that give me pearls.

So the choice is yours. Enjoy!

Kommentar von 47022

This achievement is yet one more example of Blizzard's rather questionable moral standards.

Player: "Yeah, so... I just spent the last few weeks mercilessly slaughtering literally thousands of your kinsmen, but we're cool now, right?"

Jaloot: "Yeah we're good. You have shinies?"

Kommentar von 461516

If you're confused about switching factions, like I was, there's no quest to get. You just go to the cave and attack the lich. Then, when the prisoners are freed, kill the member of the opposing faction, kill the lich and the faction-changing quest will be offered.

Kommentar von Garmheim

I would suggest that you start with reputation with the Frenzyheart if you want to pursue this and the Mercenary of Sholazar achievements. The point of becoming exalted with the Oracles is getting access to their Mysterious Egg and the Reins of the Green Proto-Drake that can drop from it. As someone who is currently waiting for his 77th Mysterious Egg to hatch, I wish that I'd gotten this achievement first and, having completed all the Frenzyheart quests, switched to the Oracles. I'd be up 2 achievements and probably be waiting no longer than I have already for the mount.

Kommentar von 148451

I was exalted with the Oracles and received a proto drake (13 weeks) from the egg. Now, It's time to switch to Frenzyheart and get the Jar. It might turn into another awesome gift from Blizz.

Kommentar von masoli78

First 3 eggs have been Protodrachenwelpe, Zügel des grünen Protodrachen, Kobrajunges. I bought the tickbirds off the AH, so I'll be going Frenzyheart tomorrow, as I hit day 20 today thereby am now exalted with Oracles. This drop sequence isn't as lucky as it used to be though, as rates have increased quite a bit for the drake AND the hatch speed is greatly increased from back in the day.

Kommentar von Obolon

ANSWER to everyone asking how to pick up quests after killing Artruis and changing factions, only to find that you can not pick up any quests afterward.

The issue : You're exalted with the Oracles, but you want to switch to Frenzyheart and start doing dailies and become exalted when them instead. You go kill Atruis, then you talk to the Zepik in the cave and your faction actually switches, so that you are now hated by the Oracles and Honored with Frenzyheart, however at this point you are stuck, because there are no quests.

Killing Pitch does nothing. Ignore everyone saying that. They aren't addressing the issue. You can't pick up the initial quest to kill Pitch, because you already did it two years ago. None of the Frenzyheart are offering quests and you can forget about a horn that summons Zepik. You don't know what to do. Well, I figured it out.

First of all, you are probably level 85. You killed Artruis too fast. If you kill Artruis too fast, Zepik and Zaloot never get released from the ice, so you can not kill one. You can talk to one after Artruis is dead and switch factions, but that's where it gets stuck. You have to actually kill one. You can only switch factions once per day.

Now, you have to wait until after the daily reset and go switch your faction back to Oracles, the right way.

Attack Artruis, but only use auto attack, no spells or special hits that will hurt her too quickly. Wear her down as slowly as you can. When Zepik and Zaloot are released from the ice blocks, attack Zepik, again, only with auto attack. One shotting him will despawn all of the mobs and you have to wait and start over. Once he is dead, finish off Artruis, continuing to hit only with auto attacks.

Now go talk to Zaloot. Your faction switches back to Honored with the Oracles and hated with the Frenzyheart.

Wait for the daily reset.

Go back and repeat this process, but kill Zaloot this time. Now talk to Zepik and your faction switches back to Honored with Frenzyheart and Hated with the Oracles.

Now, talk to Zepik again! He has another quest for you at this point, which will lead you to the Frenzyheart camp and open up the dailies.

This procedure has been fully tested and approved by yours truly. Please mark this up, so that it stands out, because I searched for hours for an answer to this dilema and never found one, so had to spend days figuring it out myself.

Kommentar von 774224

I contacted a GM to be sure about the reputation between them and I got this:

These factions are enemies, and it is not possible to have rep with both at the same time... and if you change to frenzyheart, and back to oracles, you will need to re-farm the reputation with them.

Kommentar von 792038

You can only choose one faction at a time. Earn exalted with the Oracles and gain Die Orakel. Exalted with Frenzyheart, you get Stamm der Wildherzen.

You can change factions later. Should you get both to exalted you will earn the achievement Söldner von Sholazar.

At this point in Cataclysm, the items you can purchase from the faction vendors should be worthless.

However, you can purchase Mysteriöses Ei's & Eklige Flasche's upon revered from each faction. Once purchased, these can be opened after 72 hours.

Oracle eggs can hatch into the following:

Mount: Zügel des grünen Protodrachen
Pets: Kobrajunges, Madenhackerjunges, Weißes Madenhackerjunges, Protodrachenwelpe

Frenzyheart Jars can grant:

Fun Item: Wildherzengebräu
Single Use Items: Wiederauflebender Heiltrank, Eisiger Manatrank, Kraftvoller Verjüngungstrank, Mysteriöse fermentierte Flüssigkeit

To switch Factions use the quest Bürde eines Helden. When you do finally switch factions by killing the lich; you will not see the new daily quests appear until the server restarts. Wait one day and then you can pursue the other faction’s reputation via dailies.

Your ability to switch factions is limitless; simply kill the lich while befriending your chosen faction.

Complete the 8 daily Oracle quests and gain Retter der Orakel. Complete all daily Frenzyheart quests and gain Ehrenamtliches Wildherz.

I’d suggest go Frenzyheart first. If you want a fun item, keep opening jars until you get Wildherzengebräu. If not, move on to the Oracles where you can earn both the mount & 4 pets. This is a time consuming process.

Kommentar von 601258

As of Cata, if you have high enough Guild Level so that you receive the rep bonuses, you can actually start out as 10000/12000 rep with the faction your switching to. Did this today and after 1 round of dailies was at 400/21000 rep with Frenzyheart.

Kommentar von Fembot

Not sure what the criteria is for awarding rep, but i just switched from Oracles (exalted 999/1000) to Frenzyheart, and immediately had honoured 5101/12000.

I think its a 10% bonus to the amount of rep you would need to get to 1/12000 (my guild is lev 18 and we have the Mr Popularity +10% bonus)

Kommentar von 816384

For those of you wondering where the entrance to said cave is, the coordinates are 70.42, 58.53.

Kommentar von Sziho

Today I reached the exalted status with the oracles, and tried to switch sides.
I could only do this for the 3. try, because, when i killed jaloot, Zepik and the lich simply disappeared.

Those who encounter the same issue, i suggest, to kill the lich slowly, and do not use DOT spells.
But don't worry, if he disappears, just wait a few minutes till he respawn,

Kommentar von 638920

To confirm, I've been exalted with both factions but only ONE counts towards the 50 exalted reputations (counted all my exalted reputations I have a total of 56 if we count both) although it is 55 in the statistics tab. It may be intended to be this way or it is possibly a bug.

Kommentar von 778654

ok if your like me you spent an hower flyin garound to find this quest being one that hase compleated all quests in the zone sept for 1 fackshin, well the quest will not pop up if you have all redy done the quests in the zone so what you do is JUST GO KILL THE MOB IN THE CAVE AND KILL OPSIST MEMBER YOU WANT AND BOOM you start on your new rep grind lol

no quest no nnothing kill some one and then go

Kommentar von ToviValdora

Since the guy you have to kill is not an elite anymore, you need to make sure you don't kill him too quickly. If you kill him before he can summon the prisoners to his aid, you will not get the quest for the Oracles or Frenzyheart.

What I did was beat on him with my fishing pole until he summoned the two prisoners then killed the one I didn't want.

I couldn't figure out what I was doing wrong for three days so I hope this helps = /

Kommentar von 519598

The issue : You're exalted with the Oracles, but you want to switch to Frenzyheart and start doing dailies and become exalted when them instead. You go kill Atruis, then you talk to the Zepik in the cave and your faction actually switches, so that you are now hated by the Oracles and Honored with Frenzyheart, however at this point you are stuck, because there are no quests.

I just experienced this problem, and I wanted to add to Obolon's post. As stated, I killed Artruis quickly, picked up the quest (I chose Frenzyheart), and then headed to the Frenzy town to begin dailies. None were offered. I returned, killed Artruis slowly so the NPCs were freed and I actually selected one, but the quest was not available. A check of my quest log had the quest counted towards the 25 daily cap.

I noticed later in the day that my daily log counter had dropped by one; I still had two quests done (cooking and fishing) but the 'daily' for the rep swap seems to have reset. Meaning, this 'daily' is not on the same timer as standard dailies. I'm not sure if it is on a timer or has its own unique reset time, but it does not require a full day to have it reset.

Secondly, I did the re-quest directly, without swapping back to the Oracles and then again to the Frenzyheart. If you screw up as I did, just kill Artruis again and repeat your choice. No muss, no fuss.

You know you've done this correctly when you complete the blue quest and pick up a new one from your newly sided faction rep - for Frenzyheart, I picked up Return of the Lich Hunter. (Swapping to the Oracles would lead to picking up Return of the Friendly Dryskin.)

Kommentar von 792693

Ok, so here's my problem....back before I payed attention to the fact that you can change rep between the two factions, I switched to Oracles and marked Frenzyheart as "at war". Now I am unable to unmark "at war". I did the daily to switch factions but with no results. It didn't switch my rep and I am still very much hated by the Frenzyheart Tribe. :( How am I suppose to gain the achievements? How can I get the "at war" unmarked? (Besides the obvious way of unchecking it, because, like I said, I've already tried that)

Kommentar von talli63

ok not as hard as you think to switch. i was exalted with oracles before and switched today to frenzyheart. I simply went back and killed the lich again. Buuut i made a noob mistake since im 85 and killed the lich too fast and never got to attack either factions member, and excepted the frenzyheart daily and i became hated with oracles and honored with frenzyheart and had the problem of no quests to get started with frenzyheart tribe. you don't need to reset any dailys or anything like that. simply go back unequip your weapon kill the lich slowly, kill the factions member you wish to kill and ironically you get the daily again, AND the quest to start on the faction you wish to start with, which for me was frenzyheart.

Kommentar von 963314

i got exalted whit "the Oracles" first who can i get back and do q´s whit "frenzyheart tribe agian ?

Kommentar von dredd23

Hello, I attack "Artruis the Heartless" and kill "Jaloot", after that I return Quest to "Zepik the Gorloc Hunter" and my rep to Oracles is set to hated and Frenzyheart is Honored but I cant do daily for Frenzyheart.
Where is problem ?

Kommentar von potthegreen

I'm just wondering here... so if I decide to go Frenzyheart 1st, the best would be to get oracles (start at neutral/friendly?) and switch to frenzyheart for a free bump to honored?

Kommentar von 454564

If you are having trouble switching from one faction to another, maybe you are killing Artruis too fast! Try to kill him slowly (remove your weapons), so Jaloot and Zepik have time to start attacking you. When it happens, kill one of then and it should work.

Kommentar von PriestessAur

The achievement is now account-bound, so you can earn Exalted with the Oracles on one toon and Exalted with the Frenzyheary on a different toon and it will give you the achieve. Switching factions is no longer necessary unless you just want to do it on the same character.

Kommentar von 1146726

When switching factions be sure to stick around for the second quest that either Jaloot or Zepik will give you, this quest will lead you back to that factions home where you will be able to hand in and start to grind rep.

If you don't, you'll end up in a position where you cant complete any dailys for either faction. Please upvote this as its a common problem and this is the only solution.

Kommentar von ljgard

so I went to do this and they have done a sort of fix where even if you one shot Altruiss you won't actually kill him; giving you plenty of time to kill whichever faction you don't want to switch to.

Kommentar von 1967884

This achievement is account wide now. It means, if you have an another character, and get exalted with the other fraction, then the achievement unlocks, and it is going to be shared among every characters in your account. Including new characters of yours.
PS. A green check mark ✅ shows that which you have done already with any of your character.

Kommentar von angelicpaladin

If you're going for this achivement, you do not need to complete Hemet Nesingwary's quests, or any in that starting area. While there is a quest late in those chains that will send you over to start the Frenzyheart / Oracles chain, it is not necessary. You do however have to at a minimum complete up to and including Bürde eines Helden to unlock either set of dailies.

Just go to /way 50.6 76.8 in Shoalzar and kill the cat named Pech (he's surrounded by 3 Frenzyheart). As soon as you kill him, one of the Frenzyheart offers you Gute Miene zum bösen Spiel which is the start of the chain. TLDR is you do a bunch of quests for the Frenzyheart, then the Oracles, then you have to choose who you support.

Do this on two characters, and when faced with the decision in Bürde eines Helden kill the Frenzyheart on one and the Oracle on another. This should get you most of the way through honored (as a human during WoW's 15th anniversary I was able to hit revered the day I started with just the quest chain and 3 dailies).

Kommentar von Lookoutordie

Probably not the only one who's done this, but for the last 11 years I've been screwing up this whole reputation achievement without being aware of it. I hadn't realized somehow for that length of time that swapping from one reputation to the other only put you up to honored.

I blame myself for this obviously for not noticing sooner, but this could have been... explained better? Perhaps Blizzard could change the way swapping works so it tells you you'll be at a lower status or something? Am I asking too much?

Kommentar von Syrick

This does not need to be completed on one character. Two different ones getting one of each to Exalted works.
Only one of these counts towards your total reputations for the 100 rep achievement.

Kommentar von Addsless

Glad I randomly did Frenzyheart first. I'm finding Oracles dailies way more pleasant and effortless. The chicken-grab daily for Frenzies wasn't hard, but it wasn't exactly calming. Much prefer Oracles "treasure" daily, where you just look for the winking white blips and put your companion over them. it's like spa time.

Related to both factions: I think the music in Sholazar is some of the loveliest in WoW, even after nearly 20 years, so spending time here is never an issue for me. Actually loving the Oracles "grind", which isn't a grind, for once, IMO (YMMV).

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The Exalted: An Overview of all Reputations

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