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Kommentar von Rerox

Stats Update:
"Equip: Each time you deal melee or ranged damage to an opponent, you gain 16 attack power for 10 sec., stacking up to 20 times."

Kommentar von WoWkevin

This trinket is pretty similar to the lvl 60 item Jom gabbar. Aswell probably both of these trinkets drops in naxx just in different level zone. And this trinket got none use effect "Temporarily" compared to Jom gabbar this is far more better bcus of none use but equip bonus. Though it got lowered attackpower stack each tic its stil worth it since its no Cooldown. Even this probably gonna get nerfed to a use trinket.

Kommentar von 51953

This is currently regarded as the best trinket for rogue DPS in either Mut or Combat spec. Plan your DKP strategy now.

Kommentar von Shoat

This is currently regarded as the best trinket for rogue DPS in either Mut or Combat spec. Plan your DKP strategy now.

This is not only the best for Rogues, it is the best for every Physical DPS Class.

No Trinket in any of the yet revealed Raid Instances (Which are Naxx, Obsidian Sanc and Malygos) can compare to this, because simply none of them can compare to 320 passive Attack Power (which this provides in a raid environment).

So, please don't focus on "for rogues" while talking.

Anyway, that aside:
I pretty much hope that this is more accessible then Dragonspine Trophy, which was in an awful situation even though it was a top end Phys. DPS Trinket up to Sunwell. Most People had problems ever getting their hands on this as soon as they reach T6+ Content because Gruul offered virtually no reason for anyone else besides the Phys. DPS to go there. I myself can count in bad dropluck on top of that, organizing about 15 Gruul PuGs and seeing not a single DST Drop was simply depressing.
I hope that 25 Man Sartharion will also drop something desirable for other people to get them into the Instance even after leaving his content tier, and I also hope for a better Drop Rate...

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@ jonnnney under me: When I posted this, the Darkmoon Cards weren't revealed.
Anyway, the Darkmoon Card seems to be the only thing close to / equal / better then Fury, depending on your class and on "stacking up a 100% proc" vs. "having a low % chance proc up 1/3 of the time". For most Physical DPS the best way would be to just use both of them, Fury in one slot and Darkmoon (Str/Agi) in the other slot. ;) )

Another clarification for faerr below me who thinks that the 20 stacks fall off autmatically even if you continue to hit the enemy:
As soon as you reach 20 stacks every single Melee Attack renews the duration.
It cannot fall off unless you stop attacking.

Kommentar von 189136

I would think this Trinket would/could be weak in some enviroments, but I wouldnt know how to go around testing it.

If there ends up being a boss which allows only limited melee involvement, or sporadic non-involvement (periods of zero dps, as either melee or ranged) exceeding 10 seconds, the buff falling off, coupled with the 20 attacks required to fully stack it again may be sub-par, only situationally of course.

The best way to get around the buff falling off though, is if, should you still have the time to stop and throw an autoshot(as melee, alternatively, hunters could pop a rank 1 shot to minimize aggro, if its an issue) you should be able to keep the buff up from Engagement to Kill with proper management, not something for the faint of heart nor trigger finger.

Kommentar von Benegesserit

Yay, I don't have to collect cards for a Darkmoon Card: Crusade upgrade.

Kommentar von 265870

This also procs from aoe damage (not dots). so with blade storm, volley, etc. you would get a full stack of 20 within seconds.

Kommentar von 251703

Dont know why people downgraded my post. It DOES take too long to stack as ret. Downgrade if you want but the infomation i submitted is correct. This will of course be amazing for people that can stack it fast. but ret cannot unless you are in an aoe pack. This is god like for patchwerk and loatheb and other encounters where you can keep the proc on all the time.

So Leviathant do not call me stupid. How about you read my post first. I clearly stated for RET.

Kommentar von 251703

The best two ret pally trinkets at the moment are: the new darkmoon faire card: greatness and bandit insignia from heroic sapphron. This trinket is very useful and should be rotated in for things like patchwerk.

Kommentar von 177058

I havent seen any posts about how great this is for an enhance shaman. People do forget that enh shamans hit extremely fast with minimal haste and flurry procs, making this a formidable choice over other trinkets. I have tested this a few times and Im pretty sure Windfury procs the trinket(prove me wrong). Basically if you go non-stop attacking, you can have an extra 320 ap. which helps your spell damage and shamanistic rage a lot.

Kommentar von 144183

Consecration is neither a melee or a ranged attack and won't proc this trinket.

Kommentar von 269303

Just to clarify, after the 10 seconds the stacks are wiped clean and we have to stack up to 20 again, right? If so, what is the actual average sustained AP buff over the course of a boss fight like Patchwerk?

Also, if the average sustained AP boost turns out to be something like 250 AP (based on continually having to build up the stacks), why would someone choose this over Mirror of Truth, which also gives 84 crit rating (~1.84% chance to crit @ lvl 80) AND has been calculated to add 150-250 static AP (depending on crit rate and attack speed)?

Kommentar von 265870

This would be good for boss fights which are long and drawn out. But for trash mobs, and boss fights where there are long breaks in between fighting this wouldn't be as good.

Kommentar von Yuksu93

"Sort of" like a newer version of the Darkmoon Card: Crusade except without spell power.

Kommentar von bradadad

It would be nice to straighten out who would not benefit from this since every damage dealer seems to roll in it at the moment.

Kommentar von presleyster

As of 3.0.3 Fury of the Five Flights remains one of the top trinkets for all melee dps specs.

It's true that DW specs will build up stacks faster and possibly have slightly higher uptime than non-DW specs on trash and some mobility boss fights. I find that the gap in uptime between faster and slower attack rate specs is fairly small and certainly doesn't justify preferring one spec over another based on attack rate alone.

For retribution paladins, Fury of the Five Flights does NOT proc on SoMartyr/Blood procs. It does, however; proc on SoComm procs. It also procs on all Judgments, all Divine Storm hits (ie: up to four procs) and Hammer of Wrath. Obviously, it also will not proc on Consecration, Exorcism or Holy Wrath.

Edit to clarify information about spec preference.

Kommentar von PinktheDK

perhaps a biased opinion, but i would go as far to say that a BM hunter can the most out of this trinket.

A BM hunter almost the whole trinket!

Kommentar von 282047

Currently this trinket is best in slot for a Feral DPS Kitty Druid, unless you somehow manage to get your Strength above your Agility to proc +300 Str with Darkmoon Card: Greatness due to how all feral bleeds scale with AP ( be it straight AP, Str or Agi ) and nothing else.

Personal experience with this trinket and on average within the first 10-15 seconds of an engage I have this trinket fully stacked ( to do it in 10 requires TF pop and 2-3 omen procs vs 15 secs for TF pop and no omen procs ) so weighting this at ~290-300 AP in Rawr ( since it doesn't model this trinket yet ) should give you a fairly accurate weighting over the duration of any boss fight.

Kommentar von 63106

is that because volley only uses one arrow or bullet when you use it?

Kommentar von 249924

to diu9you I say WTF

as a rogue who is mutilate outside of 25 man raids (HAT in 25s) and who has grim toll I can say that grim toll is far from the best trinket for a mutilate spec, the armor penetration does not apply to poison damage envenom and rupture and therefore it is far from ideal.

Grim Toll is however very good for HAT spec and combat rogues.

Kommentar von IGotSoul

For rogues does this proc off dots like Garrote or Rupture? If so then keeping the stack up would be MUCH more manageable.
I dont imagine it procs off poisons though which is a shame.

Kommentar von 304640

Can this trinket proc on Seal of Blood/Matyr aswell?

Kommentar von bavelb

As mentioned earlier with rogues and Fan of Knives, the same applies to swipe for druids (currently only bear, but in next patch a catability as well).

Each target hit by swipe triggers 1 stack of the trinket. So a theoretical aoepack of 20 mobs (some packs in naxx spiderwing come close to this amount) would apply all 20 stacks in 1 swipe.

Kommentar von 251701

Since 3.08 patch, now rogues can build up to 20 stacks in 2 seconds against trash mobs by Fan-Of-Knives-ing 5 or more mobs twice.
Every FoK attack is composed by both MH and OH hits so will turn in 2xnumber of mobs.

If mobs are 5+ you will get 10 stack per FoK and so 20 stacks in 2 seconds.
Pretty funny indeed =)
ps: just got it hehee to replace my old Meteorite Whetstone.

Kommentar von 128309

on every melee hit it stacks the buff, each proc renews the buff duration, so this trinket has about 90% uptime on bossfights on my warrior with full 20 stacks. there is no proc hidden cd and it will stay up for as long as you are hitting stuff. even procs off heroic throw. btw does not share a cd with mirror of truth.

all in all a kickass trinket for the raw ap, it may not be as much as some blues give on demand but keep in mine that this is up for the entire fight.

Kommentar von 248849

Similar to the old Darkmoon Card: Crusade. The passive attack buff gained by constant dps is really, REALLY nice for any physical dps class (unfortunately I have to say yes, it's good for hunters too :P). The drop rate isn't too shabby either.

Kommentar von 314893

After reading all of them comments there werent alot of people confirming they have gotten this so i thought i should share a comment. I recently just got this about 2 days ago and let me tell you, this is defiently a must have for all DPS classes (i myself am a hunter) and for some of you wondering if the trinket resets after 20stacks the answer is NO. considering that almos all boss fights in naxx 25 are more then 3mins it really shows a big difference in your DPS. An extra 320 attack power for the duration of the fight is way better then an extra 190 agi for 15secs and having it go on cooldown for 45secs. Sorry but in a 3minute fight id much rather have 320 ATP for the full 3 mins then having only 4 possible chances at 190 for 15secs, yes it may be a large burst of extra dmg but your dps will normalize back in those 45secs of downtime.

Kommentar von 58191

Got this last night, and as a Hunter I am quite pleased with it. I also did some testing for the 'basic stuff' as I'm not a huge number cruncher, but figured I'd chime in with some things that people who play Hunters might be curious about (from a SV Hunter perspective).

1. Does not proc off of Volley, so no easy stacking with AOE...bummer. :(

2. It does proc three stacks with Multi-Shot, assuming you hit three mobs with it.

3. It procs a stack off of every tick of Explosive Shot.

4. Does not proc off of any Sting like Serpent or Scorpid.

5. If you have the LnL (Lock and Load) talent it will make stacking to a full 20 much easier.

6. Does not proc off of Explosive or Immolation Trap. Don't think it can proc off of Snake Trap either, but correct me if this is incorrect as I haven't tested it yet.

As others have said, it is much like the old Darkmoon Card: Crusade, and I have found it has upped my damage in the few fights I have used it on. Very good for fights like Patchwerk and even Heigan as all you need is an instant or auto-shot to keep the stack alive. All in all, it's a great trinket and would highly recommend using it whenever possible, unless the fight calls for you to be fulfilling another role, but even then it's not hard to get the stack rolling to 20 again.

**Edit**

Currently after patch 3.1 the ticks from Explosive Shot DO NOT proc stacks for this trinket. Not sure if this is a bug or not, but it should be noted. It still procs for everything else, including the initial hit of ES (I believe).

Kommentar von caedus051

Just tested this on my Ret paladin. Judgement can proc it, but consecrate doesn't. Also it causes one stack for each mob hit by Divine storm, ie 3 mobs = 3 stacks. The time it took to achieve a full 20 stacks didn't seem that long, about 15-20 seconds roughly for a single target (The buff has a duration of 10 seconds, each hit refreshes it). I dont expect to see 20 during trash encounters, but this trinket will be useful for longer boss encounters.

Kommentar von Lemonwizard

I can confirm that this trinket does not proc off bleed ticks of rend and deep wounds, making it stack rather slowly in single target situations for an arms warrior. This diminishes the trinket's effectiveness on a fight like heigan or sapphiron where you're unable to attack the boss for a period of time long enough for this buff to fall off.

It really shines on fights where you are laying down the hurt on the boss uninterrupted, though, like patchwerk or thaddius.

Additionally, when AOEing, a single bladestorm will get you a full stack of 20 buffs in under 5 seconds, and this trinket DOES proc off sweeping strikes hits.

DMC: Greatness will serve you better on some encounters, but this trinket is definitely worth picking up if you can get your hands on it.

Kommentar von 319789

Does anyone know if this is good for ret palys?
Over 10 seconds, meleex3 + Crusader strikex2 + divine storm + judgementx2 on a boss target will only add 8 stacks, unless procs from SoC / SoM are counted in.
If not, I don't know if a paly could get past 10+ stacks by the time the timer runs out.

Answer - From what I have read, each hit refreashes the stack, so you will be at 20 stacks in a boss fight considering if you hit the boss once every <10 secs =)

Kommentar von RozPT

Survival Hunters, the stack WILL increase with Explosive ticks. That's 3 stacks right there, and since we rely heavily on ExS, it's only a a matter of seconds to get the full 20 stacks up and running. In fights like Patchwerk, it's impossible NOT to have the 20 stacks for the full duration of the fight.

Amazing trinket.

Kommentar von Bhaalgorn

Doesn't proc from disease ticks or any spells(Icy Touch and Deathcoil). Still a great trinket and it shouldn't take you long to get it to 20 stacks anyway.

Kommentar von suivezmoi

Just cause I'm shocked and mad as hell...

This dropped tonight for our group. The Raid leader and Master Looter saved it for last then kicked the last of us from the group to save it for himself. Saw him equip it. His name is Andisarius (Human DeathKnight from Aerie Peak).

I hope he enjoys it.

Kommentar von 148063

Any thoughts on pairing this with Darkmoon Card: greatness for a fury warrior?

They list as the top two available trinkets, but I have read that one would be better pairing either with the MIrror of Truth.

Any suggestions on which two of those three would be best used?

Kommentar von 270486

I am curious if this goes ok with druid tank. I ran a group the other day and after not seeing it ever (9 runs) it finally dropped. the only two to roll on this was myself and the druid tank and I lost. Im mainly wondering if it was fair for him to roll? fair of course... More.. Did he really need it over other ones he could get.

Kommentar von Ruhler

Awesome trinket. I was lucky to win it last night (was my first OS25, as well). As an enhance Shaman, building 20 stacks takes very little time, and basically means any fighting over 30 seconds it becomes effective. Of course, any fight LESS than the time it takes to reach 20 stacks is going to be fights where DPS doesn't really matter anyways (such as low level trash mobs). So for me, I keep it on any situation.

Kommentar von Kheldul

This says that it is available for sale by an "Accessories Vendor". Is that some artifact of the PTR, or is that real realm stuff?

Kommentar von 219762

Does paladin's damage seal double the proc speed?

Kommentar von 352595

Best dps trinket for a warrior just after Darkmoon Card : Greatness ( 468 strenght when it procs ) even with 25 man ulduar trinkets.
The new wrathstone that drops from Kologarn goes 3rd and then mirror of truth is 4th with grim toll 5th.
Hope this helps.

Darkmoon card : Greatness is by far the best dps trinket giving 90 * 1.2 * 2 = 216 constant AP with 300 * 1.2 * 2 = 720 AP every 15 sec every minute so that means
396 constant AP compared to 320 AP for Fury of the five Flights.

Mirror of truth only give 166.66 constant AP with +84 crit.

Kommentar von 342315

uhm no, Fury of the five flights is better than mirror of truth.

For 1. Look at Trinket item level
For 2. 320 ap is better than 78 or what ever the crit is... (the proc on mirror of truth has a 40 second cd, so its not all that great)

Kommentar von 367790

I think it's the best trinket for rogues and may be fury warriors

Kommentar von TastyBeverage

To reiterate, it drops of heroic and does not require any drakes.

Kommentar von littlebob

Fury of the Five Flights is this best trinket for a surv hunter - pre naxx?

Kommentar von 00bender00

Retribution:

The new Seal of Command in 3.2.2 stacks this trinket in seconds on the PTR.
DS and you get 10+ stacks due to the new cleaving SoC mechaninc, so this is now useful also for AoE/trash situations, no need to swap anymore.

Kommentar von Doomy

Best thing I won with a 100(max) roll.

Kommentar von 297026

As an enchance shammie, should I give up Banner of Victory or Mirror of Truth for this? ( I'm leaning towards giving up BoV since ArP isnt as good as Crit for an ench)

Kommentar von 352647

Just been outrolled on this item by a moonkin, who then traded it to his hunter friend in the raid. Got to love the new raid loot system lol. /cry

Kommentar von Zwindarra

I just wanted to know, is this still good for the likes of Herald of the Titans for an MM Hunter?

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