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Kommentar von YariniCeteri

Got this on live on December 1st. This achievement is fairly straightforward, but requires a fair amount of self-control from your raid.

In both his first and second intermissions at 80% and 40% respectively Aggramar will go immune to damage and summon small adds called Embers of Taeshalach, which will try to run to the boss, and explode when they reach him. In Normal killing these adds will remove them from the fight, but in Heroic they respawn after 18 seconds and must be allowed to reach the boss in a staggered fashion to not overwhelm the raid with damage due to a stacking damage taken increase for each Ember that hits.

For this achievement, you'll have to CC one of these adds (Banish if possible, Frost Trap/Entangling Root otherwise) and avoid killing it for a while. When the boss pushed back into P2 you must hit this add with the abilities from Aggramar's combo sequence twice. What this means is that once the add is CC'd, the tank should pull the boss near (not on top of) the add and face the boss toward it. When the boss casts Foe Breaker, tank 1 should be alone, and ensure the boss is close enough that the add is hit. Then the entire raid should stack in front of the boss to help split the Flame Rend. Then the entire raid should move and tank 2 should taunt, and take the second Foe Breaker alone with the add. Then the entire raid will stack up again for the second Flame Rend, and after this is over everyone in the raid needs to move out for Searing Tempest. The add needs to be hit by all 5 of these moves, twice each.

Each ability that hits the add will give him a stack of the respective buff, with the Ember becoming a Manifestation after 4 stacks of Foe Breaker, 4 stacks of Flame Rend and 2 stacks of Searing Tempest, or two full combos. Also if the add is alive for 3 minutes, it will explode regardless of it being near the boss, so there is a time restraint and you can't simply take as long as you need.

Once the Ember transforms you simply kill it. It gains a stacking raid-damage buff but it has virtually no health so this will never actually matter.

FrostyShot#1667 with questions about the metas. (Horde-US)

Kommentar von JoeeyHunter

The add will get the buffs it needs to transform while banished and will automatically become unbanished upon transition.

The hard part is the ranged and the tanks doing the fight with 1 central hit location.

How you do it now:

- Tank in front
- DPS Behind
- Tank in Front
- DPS Behind
- Run

How you do it for the achievement phase:

- Tank in
- DPS and other tank in
- Tank in
- DPS and other tank in
- Spread for circle.

The add it makes is a joke, don't save lust for it.

Kommentar von Night

For this achievement you will have to transform an Funke von Taeshalach into a Manifestation von Taeshalach. To accomplish that, the Ember has to get hit twice by Aggramar's Taeshalachtechnik combo.

The Taeshalachtechnik is Willensbrecher - Flammenschnitt - Willensbrecher - Flammenschnitt - Sengender Sturm. You can set focus on the Funke von Taeshalach and check its debuffs to see if all abilities have hit.

Ideally, for this achievement you should bring a Warlock and a Demon Hunter, Druid or Warrior tank.

First, let the Funke von Taeshalach move away from the edge of the platform, and then have the Warlock cast Verbannen to make it immune to damage. Make sure to keep the add crowd controlled throughout the fight.
As soon as the tank gets knocked back by Flammenschnitt, they have to use Infernoeinschlag, Wilde Attacke or Sturmangriff on the boss to get back on the platform.

In case you don't have any Warlocks, you can use Eiskältefalle, Wucherwurzeln or other crowd controls, but Demon Hunters will have to adjust where they use Infernoeinschlag to avoid killing the add.

Note that you have to transform the Funke von Taeshalach within a single phase or else it will detonate.(##RESPBREAK##)396##DELIM##Nightswifty##DELIM##

Kommentar von DrHeckyll

Given the Taeshalach Technique is different for this achievement compared to heroic / NM regular fights, we made sure everyone understood what to do right of the bat in P1. That is in P1 we had the tank take the foe reaper then had the raid stack up and run through the bosses legs for rend. The off tank taunted as the raid ran back (boss didn't move) and took the next foe then the raid ran through legs again for 2nd rend. Even though there was no add up at this time it set the teams minds to the new procedure, which we then maintained throughout the entire fight. This 'relearning' is the hardest part of the fight actually.

We treated this kind of like a heroic boss were we had a lock perma banish the add (banish means it takes no damage the entire fight) that comes from behind the tanks (where its also furthest form the raid group normally). Fortunately in NM you can burn all the adds you don't need. We had to make sure the add was close enough for the foe to hit the add (i.e let the add run a bit from the platform towards the middle) so on the pull move the boss past the mid line towards the front for a bit more room (helps with rend spacing as well).

Must be done in 2 consecutive Taeshalach Technique from P2 - or your add will explode before it transforms. It took a couple of goes for the raid to unlearn/relearn the movement for rend and to get the distance right for the add to take the hits and not get absorbed. The lock and his healer working on the add stayed away from rend and everything else until the transformation happened. When it did we hero'd and burned the boss.

The Dedicated & Openraid achievement group completed this on the 10/12/17. Average ilvl of the 30M group (2T/6H/22DPS) was 945+

VID: https://youtu.be/9Rrd7xXljTI

Kommentar von RedSalamando

His technique DOES GO THROUGH Warlock Banish. You do not need to expertly time your banishes and unbanishes.

Kommentar von Shardsy

If the banished guy gets free and walks into the boss it explodes. As usual.

Kommentar von Hexen255

If you want to do this with a very specific and weird setup a friend and I 2-manned it on normal at 120 with a ridiculous method as a monk and priest.

The most important and odd fact is how Argus interacts with a monk's ox statue. When the Taeshalach Technique hits the ox statue it does not cause him to gain the damage buff he usually does for hitting too few players, as well as making his attacks not hit as an AOE, ignoring everything in it's path but the ox statue. This seems awesome at first, but this also stops him from stacking the needed buffs on the Ember of Taeshalach. With a lot of experimenting, we figured out this:

The monk placed his Ox statue which held aggro as I DPS'd as a shadow priest until we went to the second transition phase at 40%. The monk would then paralyze the ember and we started the next phase. As Aggramar readied the technique the monk would taunt Aggramar to the ember, thus allowing it to receive the buffs again. The first Flame Rend's knock-back was counteracted by a Leap of Faith by me, and the second by the monk's transcendence. We would then let the ox hold aggro until he started the combo again. He would dismiss the ox to make sure it didn't pull aggro and make one of the hits miss and would avoid the first knock-back with transcendence again, where on the second hit of flame rend we would let him die on the swing, which caused his corpse to not fly off the edge. When he finished the combo the ember became the Manifestation of Taeshalach and all that's left is the kill. I used an Unstable Temporal Time Shifter to bring him back, though you could get away with not doing this if you can kill him before another round of knock-backs.

A weird method, but we worked with everything we had. The ox statue shenanigans should at least be useful for any group with a monk wanting to try this achievement with a small group.

Kommentar von Sipder2

To solo Strapazen your class need to meet 3 criterias.

have CC to Funke von Taeshalach, for example: Paralyse, Verbannen, Eiskältefalle, Wucherwurzeln or other.
have high gear (460+ilvl) or good defensive cds to survive to Taeshalachtechnik combo. For example: Aspekt der Schildkröte.
have 2 skills to avoid 2x Flammenschnitt knock backs, for example: Surv Hunter: Harpune + Rückzug. Warrior: Sturmangriff + Heldenhafter Sprung.

Note: Taeshalachtechnik combo is Willensbrecher + Flammenschnitt + Willensbrecher + Flammenschnitt + Sengender Sturm.

How to survive to Taeshalachtechnik combo:
You will need good gear or tank spec to dont die.

on the first Willensbrecher do not do anything
on the first Flammenschnitt use your first skill to avoid knock back
on the second Willensbrecher use a good defensive CD
on the second Flammenschnitt use your second skill to avoid knock back
on the Sengender Sturm get out of the fire circle

The strategy:

pull the boss and lower your life to 80%
kill the two Flamme von Taeshalach mobs and cc one Funke von Taeshalach (now you enter in "Stage 2: Champion of Sargeras")
position the boss in front of the elemental "Funke von Taeshalach" and wait for the first Taeshalachtechnik combo (it is important that the aggro is in you, if the aggro is in a pet it will not work)
after survive to 2x Taeshalachtechnik combo, the Funke von Taeshalach transform in Manifestation von Taeshalach
kill Manifestation von Taeshalach
check if the achieve turn from red to white
kill the boss

Solo guide https://youtu.be/VyDP6TIH2-Y

Kommentar von eelsnescalators

Not sure if this helps others, but the avoidance corruption helped me mitigate some of the damage.

Kommentar von Gwiez

Raumwelle can counter the knockback, if you use it when Flammenschnitt's cast bar has under 2 seconds left (after halfway through, roughly). There's 1 minute between techniques in Normal mode, so you can either cut it very close, or use ripple in the first Rend the first time and second Rend the second time. This gives you more options classwise if you're trying to solo the Flame Rend (or solo the whole achievement).

If you don't want to bother with targetting the floor, then this macro automatically targets your current position:
/cast Ripple In Space

I was able to do it as a guardian druid (Wilde Attacke Massenumschlingung Raumwelle, no ~~Nullifikationsdynamo~~. And dps corruption (TD rank 3)).
If you don't dps fast enough and you get a Taeshalach Technique, don't panic. Ripple in Space will be off of CD because of the first intermission.

focused an Ember, kept Wucherwurzeln up on it, shifting out to refresh. Especially when Aggramar was almost at max energy. Dps Aggramar, with back to Ember about 8-10 yards away.
When Aggramar hit 100 energy, I stood very close to the Ember, under 5 yards. It wasn't getting the buffs when I was 8 yards away. No thrash/swipe obviously during this part.
On the first Flame Rend, I Rippled a few yards in front of me (so it didn't kill the Ember). run back to near Ember. hopefully TD doesn't proc during these 1-2 seconds
The second Rend I spammed Wilde Attacke. Often I got kicked so fast I didn't get the charge off before I was too far away.
Massenumschlingung on Ember before Roots expire. Either in between Rends, or when running out of Searing Tempest.
Repeat starting at #2. Don't take the boss to 40%. On the attempt I got it, he went to intermission right about when the Ember transformed, so that almost sucked.
The add is easy. The boss is straightforward after that. I did the ripple/charge for the one technique I had in phase 3, and I'm pretty sure it would have been cooled off for another.

Hopefully this gives you some ideas if you're trying other classes. I'd tried as a demo warlock, but Foe Breaker was hitting hard so I switched to a tank for 'easy' mode.

Kommentar von azuled

Did this achievement with a Warlock and a Demon Hunter tank. The warlock used banish to keep the required creature alive and in place while the DH managed the boss. At 466 it was hard for the DH to survive every cycle. Using Infernal Strike for the knock-back worked very well.

Kommentar von Plantmonster

Did this achievement last night with some guildies. Was a pain in the butt, boss kept absorbing the add or we'd miss the technique hitting it. Finally did it with two death knights tanking. First DK would use death's advance to negate the knock back, second would taunt and change places with the first, and use death's advance to negate the knockback from the second flame rend. Boss didn't get too close to the add, no one got knocked off. Death's advance cooldown meant it was up for the second technique set. Hunter kept the ember cc'd. I would highly recommend using two DKs for this achievement. We one-shot the achievement after switching to two death knight tanks. Did it with eight people, but that was because many guildies wanted the achievement. I expect you could do it with just three, the two dk tanks and one person to CC, like a hunter or lock.

Kommentar von Crestafore

I just did this as a survival hunter, but had another person to help me. I've never played survival before (I main BM) so I bought some garbage weapon from the AH for 100g and switched to survival, went from 479ilvl to 450ilvl. The trickiest part is definitely timing the Harpune. Because the ability has a min and max cast range (8 - 30yd) it's very easy to miss your window because you fly off from the knockback in less than a second -> and you need to have 2 successful hits with it like explained by Sipder2.

I did Harpune > Rückzug > Harpune > Rückzug for the respective combos. Just before 2nd combo starts I do Verbesserter Freudentaumel and Aspekt der Schildkröte, that kept me alive enough to reach the 3rd and 4th combo. If you drop below 90% health you can do some damage to the boss a bit for the heals / leech, but careful not to push to 40%. I did the 4 combos successfully but died on the last Flammenschnitt, that's where the 2nd person comes in to do 1 more Sengender Sturm and kill add + boss (any well geared class will do). This achievement might be completely soloable as survival but you need to time everything right, easier if there is one more person to help finish stuff like I had just in case.

Of course you also need to remember to refresh Eiskältefalle, I had some failed attempts where I did everything right but forgot to refresh and add touched boss. So it's a lot of things to remember at one time but it's doable after some tries. Be ready to spend an hour or two if you want to try this, a lot of things can easily go wrong.

Kommentar von executable

Guide for two-manning this achievement on normal using a Mage and Hunter.

Mage requirements: be Fire, and have the Shimmer talent, and about 27k HP (more is better).
Hunter requirements: none, but being BM might help.

1. Mage opens with a single spell, then Hunter misdirects pet and brings Aggramar to 80%.
2. Freeze trap a single ember, clear the other embers / elementals.
3. Hunter dismisses pet when Aggramar has 80 energy. Aggramar will start hitting the mage when pet is dismissed, DPS for threat if required.
4. Mage stands just a short bit away from the trapped elemental, points Aggramar towards it, and:
*** Tanks the first Foe Breaker with blazing barrier up.
*** Shimmers as the first Flame Rend finishes casting (important: don't be reactive, shimmer based on the cast timer)
*** Repositions himself to be in front of the elemental with Aggramar facing towards it, and casts Alter Time, gets hit by the second Foe Breaker, then reverses time back to full HP.
*** Shimmers as the second Flame Rend finishes casting
*** Exits the Searing Tempest circle.
5. If done correctly, the Mage should be alive at about 4-5k HP. Hunter resummons pet and takes aggro so mage doesn't die. Wait for 80 energy and dismiss pet again
6. For the second Taeshalach technique, the mage will take the first 3 hits and die. The hunter will disengage the second Flame Rend (timing is crucial here, if you disengage too late Aggramar will deaggro and despawn due to his target being outside the arena).
7. Hunter runs away to avoid Searing Tempest, kills the add, and solos the rest of the encounter.

Kommentar von vuro

I just earned this achievement solo as a warlock.
Achievement video: https://youtu.be/3EHaMV8-jgI

Assuming you understand the general strategy to earn the achievement, here are some warlock specific tips (copied from the video description):

1. I don't think you can do this without being Night Fae or having Pillars of the Dark Portal legendary. Using the gateway to prevent the knockback is the hardest part to time, so do that on the first knockback. Once you do that correctly make sure to use demonic circle on the same technique. On the second round of technique you can use soulshape (or gateway again with Pillars of the Dark Portal) and demonic circle again.

2. Banish lasts 30 seconds, so make sure to banish right before the technique starts, otherwise the add will be absorbed by the boss before you can chain banish. During the AOE ability in the technique, make sure not to walk the boss through the add, and to either chain banish perfectly, or run the boss away from the add to give yourself time to set up banish again.

3. The second Foe Breaker can do over 30k, so you probably want at least 35k total health, and to stay topped off using drain life.

4. You probably want the add a bit further away from the boss than I did in this video; it was almost absorbed when I soulshaped to avoid knockback.

Kommentar von Siimonco

Possible to solo as balance Venthyr Druid in 9.1 with some practice.

Make sure you have the Stellarverschiebung and Wilde Attacke talents.

1. Before each Taeshalachtechnik combo make sure you Wucherwurzeln the add.
2. During the first Willensbrecher use Sternenregen to have the buff of Stellarverschiebung active. (starfall doesn't damage rooted adds)
3. Use Schattentor onto your current location (or you risk killing the add when boss runs into it) 2.1s into the cast of Flammenschnitt to counter the first Knockback. (3.5s Rend cast - 1.5s Door of Shadows cast)
4. Go bear form and use Wilde Attacke for the second knockback (Better than chicken form because you can spam it and it'll charge as soon as you are out of range)

On the Second combo you have to use the Wilde Attacke for the first Flammenschnitt so Schattentor can get off CD. Go boomkin form and use Sternenregen during the second Willensbrecher and be ready to use Schattentor 2.1s into the Flammenschnitt again.

Took me a few pulls to perfect the timings but you should be able to make it. Good luck.

Kommentar von dabone1337

Seems buggy in 9.1.5 the add is not getting the stacks of the combo beside the Searing Tempest stack :/

Kommentar von MeAjur

While you do need a class that can CC, you in fact do not need an ability that prevents knock-back. Instead of standing in front of an Ember, stand slightly to one side or the other so that when you are knocked back, you're knocked to the side of the Ember instead of into the Ember.

Text art for clarification because I'm too lazy to redo the fight just to take a picture:
B=Boss, Y=You, E=Ember

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You will need to start off with a fair amount of distance between you and the Ember to account for the boss stepping forward after each knock-back, and remember to refresh the CC before the final attack (I didn't the first time and watched helplessly as the Ember walked into the boss while I was disoriented).

Kommentar von Alteir

Soloed this as a BM hunter on Heroic, the biggest difficulty was that I kept getting knocked into the Ember after a Flame Rend so Aggramar would walk over it and destroy it. Managed by standing at an angle to the left of the ember so the techniques would still hit it, but the ember's and Aggramars hitboxes would never collide even when he chased me down, and used Disengage just for safety's sake on the first Flame Rend since it seemed like he was less inclined to chase me down after the second Flame Rend.

Speaking of knockbacks, it seems like the knockbacks of Aggramar's abilities have been drastically reduced in a recent patch, even when I took his Flame Rends at point blank I was never knocked back far enough to push me off the platform.

Kommentar von Moin

It may be possible as level 60 Blood Deathknight using Eisketten and Ersticken,
if you have a very good timing and placement.

You can kite the boss away from the Ember slowed by the chains and when
he starts the combo, quickly use Unaufhaltsamer Tod to turn the boss over.

I had some good tries, but it is too hard, I give up.

Kommentar von FleX246

Just soloed it as Brewmaster Monk.
(Lvl 70 / iLvl 482)

I cc'ed an Funke von Taeshalach about halfway to the boss with Paralyse.

As others have said, the Funke von Taeshalach needs some debuffs to transform into an Manifestation von Taeshalach
The following debuffs are required:

A run of Taeshalachtechnik performs the following actions in sequence:
Willensbrecher + Flammenschnitt + Willensbrecher + Flammenschnitt + Sengender Sturm

For Willensbrecher you can stand between Aggramar and the Funke von Taeshalach, the Funke von Taeshalach gets the debuff.
For Flammenschnitt you can stand between Aggramar and the Funke von Taeshalach, as soon as spell is finished "fly" back with Chitorpedo. (Talent: two Charges)
For Sengender Sturm you can stand between Aggramar and the Funke von Taeshalach, the Funke von Taeshalach gets the debuff.

Don't forget to re'cc again the Funke von Taeshalach all the Time.
You have 30sec Cooldown and the cc holds 1 min.

Kommentar von Lowny

Freezing trap only last for 8 seconds on mythic, not sure how I am supposed to solo this achievement otherwise T_T

Kommentar von stym

Completed today on my warlock, and i wanted to give a few additional pointers to doing this in Dragonflight.

1- if your pet has aggro on aggramar, the Funke von Taeshalach will NOT get the debuffs from Willensbrecher or Flammenschnitt, no matter how close it is to the boss. You need to have aggro on the boss.
2- The two debuffs mentioned above have a pretty short range. The Ember needs to be fairly close (say, one Flammenschnitt pushback close). If it is not close enough, it will only be affected by Sengender Sturm.
3- Erbarmungslose Entschlossenheit will NOT protect you from the Flame Rend pushback

I did what Meajur suggested in the comments and made sure the ember was not directly behind me to prevent an accidental collision with the boss.
Brennender Ansturm is helpful during Flammenschnitt to go back towards the boss really fast and avoid a collision with the Ember.
I refreshed my Verbannen just before the combo, and once again after the second Flammenschnitt (just before Sengender Sturm) for safety.
I put my Dämonischer Zirkel on the other end of the disappearing translucent bridge just before the boss platform, so I could reset the fight without having to jump off and walk back.

That took me a bunch of attempts. You can try this twice per fight, once with the first wave of embers when the boss reaches 80% health, and another when he is down to 40%.
THe embers reach 100% energy pretty fast, so if your ember does not get exactly 2 stack of Willensbrecher, 2 stacks of Flammenschnitt, and 1 stack of Sengender Sturm per combo, you are done for this Ember cycle.

Kommentar von Averuuh

Completed on a monk in Dragonflight. Tried to 2-man this several times but his knockback was too hard to counter and kept knocking me all the way off the platform each time.

Our solution: the other person jumped down and died in the beginning of the fight. Apparently the knockback does NOT knock you off the platform when you're soloing.

Paralysis and Roll was all I needed to complete it. Easy!

Kommentar von ShutterBun

As of 10/25/2023, this achievement has been made VERY easy, as long as your class has a way of immobilizing one of the Embers during the fight. The push-back from Flame Rend has been nerfed into a love tap. Instead of completely blowing you off the platform, it punts you about 10-15 feet at most. So the new solo strat is basically:

1. Get boss to 80% health (so he walks to center, gets in his flaming phone booth and summons embers)
2. Freeze/root/banish one of the embers.
3. Kill the two larger elementals
4. Stand a few feet in front of the ember you've frozen.
5. Let boss go through two FULL cycles of Taeschelac Techniques, to the point where you get disoriented twice. Flame Rend will knock you back a little, but it's easy to get back into position.
6. Ember should transform into a manifestation. The change is unmistakable. It gets about twice as large, and has a more humanoid appearance. Very easy to tell when it's changed.
7. Kill manifestation, then kill boss.

Kommentar von Kurai1518

you can solo it as long as you have CC and at least 1 movement ability to not get knocked helps but not mandatory. It doesnt have to be 2 technique rotations in a row, you just need to let the ember get hit by 4x foe breaker 4x flame rend and 2x searing tempest. doesnt matter the order or how many roations of technique. The knock back wont knock you off the edge anymore, but it will knock you far enough to get aggramar to walk into it after he knocks you unless you angle it so it hits it with the edge. Just did it on WL where I portal and gated both knocks in first technique then 2nd one just portal and then didnt let the add get hit by the 2nd one then 3rd technique finished it got hit and transformed.

Kommentar von slobash33

Found it easiest to switch to warlock for banish. Level 70, make sure you’re specced into banish.
1: Take off your gear.
2: Hit Aggramar with a few spells to get him down to below 80%
3: Banish one elemental, kill the 2 big ones.
4: Let boss get to 70-80 energy. Unbanish the elemental then banish it again.
5: Drag the boss close to the elemental. Get hit by the first 2 abilities (second one knocks you back a few steps, run forward again, burning rush if you can manage it then he doesn’t move)
6: While he’s getting wound up for the 3rd hit unbanish and rebanish the elemental. Note that if the boss is right on top of it you’ll lose it so make sure there’s some space.
7: Get hit by ability 3 and 4. Then he’ll do the 5th which disorients you. Now keep the boss away from the elemental and just keep it banished until he gets to 70-80 energy again. Do it all again.
8: When the second disorient hits the add will turn into a larger molten elemental. Kill it, then kill the boss.
Note: If you mess it up the first time and all the elementals die DPS the boss down to 40% and have another go. If you mess it up again jump off (or use a gate to go back over the bridge if you had the foresight to set that up)

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Bezwingt Aggramar in Antorus, dem Brennenden Thron, auf dem Schwierigkeitsgrad 'Normal' oder höher, nachdem Ihr eine Manifestation von Taeshalach getötet habt.

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