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Kommentar von Tresjin

He has 20M health in Heroic difficulty. On Normal, he has more like 6.9M.

Kommentar von 61362

Actually your gear matters for the entire fight if you wish to have the achievement, because what matters is the dps output in phase 1 and 2. You have about 180 seconds to burn Malygos Phase 1 and 2 down and then about 120 seconds on your drakes.

The amount of dps per person required is 3600 (if your tank does 1k2 plus otherwise raise it a bit) if you go the standard 3 healers 1 tank 6 dps.

If you lower it to 2 healers, which is the easiest way (for having done it) you only need 3000 dps per dps (once more accounting that your tank does at least 1k2 dps).

GL with your achievement farming. Some of them are hardcore.

Kommentar von jaxsonbateman

Actually, the method for doing this achievement is as follows:

Snare as many sparks as possible whilst burning down Malygos, so that they aren't killed, but Malygos cannot eat them. You want them to be stacked as close together as possible in order to stack them when you do kill them - for this reason druids and DKs are very handy (for snares and death grip).

When Malygos is about to hit 50%, you blow all the sparks so that you get something along the lines of a 4-6 stack. You then blow bloodlust, and absolutely destroy Malygos.

The 10 man version is noticably more difficult than the 25 man due to the lack of members with which to control the sparks. It's also worth mentioning that this achievement greatly favours ranged dpsers as your multi-spark burning will occur when Malygos is airborne.

Kommentar von 209698

Wait a minute. They're making the sparks un-snareable? So how in the world does Blizzard expect this to be done?

Kommentar von 260684

indeed.. yet another gotta go nr 2..

some praised this is one of tested achievements.. due the fact of mass stacking and him not dying.. and staying on 1hp.. but i always said it wasnt tested..

and making them unrootable just confirms this.. so how we gonna do this.. in good old fashion way.. come back when we are in t9 and hope we can make it? RIGHT

Kommentar von 250585

Did it at 27th of December, it took about 5 hours to done it.
The problem is to have luck with sparks from same spot and u will have no problem to take boos to 1% at 1st phase. If u did this, then no problem the rest of phases. (2nd phase takes 50 sec) and the last phase is about who 1st will attack boss, that will kill him.

Kommentar von 168683

Did it yesterday with a bit more than a total of 2:30 hours of practise (haven't tried heroic 5min yet). It's very trivial with a caster group and 2 druids

Kommentar von 59533

I did this achievment last night, server first actually (thank you, thank you :D).

We went with 2 healers (one of them a druid), a druid tank and 7 dps (one of them a DK).

Start with burning the boss just like normal. When the first spark appears our druid healer rooted the spark and held him in place. The second one we devine hymned with the priest combined with the tank rooting him before Malygos went up to do the wortex. When the 3rd spark appeared the DK just death gripped him. By this point the boss was on 60%~ and we gathered up the sparks and killed them. We actually had too good dps and didn't get to have the 4th spark, so we just went ahead with 3. We popped BL, all cd's and burned him to 30%-ish before phase 2 came along. Killed the adds while under effect of the 3 sparks and when Malygos returns from his slacking and destroying the platform we burned him down to 7%-ish. From there on we burned him down and had a marginal of about 3 seconds :D

We were there for about 2-3 hours untill he died. A good evening!

GL in your tries, better get this before you can't root them :)

Kommentar von superf

they are indeed rootable, but they despawn after a certain amount of time, so you can't cc them to get 3-4 stacks.

this includes the duration after they've been killed.

Kommentar von Maslow

as far as i've read, the spark are still rootable, but they dont stack anymore, not sure weather its true or not, but if it is, the difficulty on this one has been increased quite alot, even with the 1 min extra time

Kommentar von 260684

so you still need raid stacked.. more or less, if it were 7-8 mins,, then its fine, if you do it normal way, you need to push, as normal raid will usually kill it in 9-9.5 mins

but 6 is still pretty tight :( , their stacking fix seems broken

Kommentar von Rassium

As of 3.0.8, you can no longer target Malygos between phases 2 and 3, and there is roughly 5-10 seconds at the start of phase 3 (after you land on your drakes) where he is untargetable.
I'm not sure if it's game-breaking, but coupled with the spark-nerf this achievement is pretty hard to get right now. On some sloppy first attends my 10man managed 8min kills. We could definitely shave 30+ seconds off just treating the sparks normally now (and just playing better), but 6min looks somewhat unrealistic.

Kommentar von raistmaj

I got yesterday this achievement:

2 warrior fury.
1 combat rogue.
1 moonking.
1 mage fire.
1 dk blood
1 shaman resto.
1 pala holy.
1 pala tank.
1 shadow priest.

2 healers, 1 tank, 7 dps. You need to get malygos below 50% before the second vortex, when you have a spark you must use bloodlust and when you have the second spark burn all cds on malygos.
You must get the third fase with 2minutes 30 second on the track timer and everyone alive, use 2 drake healers and 8 dps and get you dont have an lolternity..

Kommentar von 65384

yust done this with 10 seconds left.

group setup: fury warrior, survival hunter, holy paladin, resto druid, feral druid, unholy DK (was an alt), frostfire mage,destro lock, SP and elemental shaman.

P1: at pull, start nuking, dont waste any cds yet. after first vortex get to the direction of the spark. nuke spark down. we were lucky and had a second spark comming from behind us (if this wasnt the case the DK would have pulled it to us). we poped bloodlust on first spark and all other cds on second spark. kept nuking until he wasnt targetable anymore, was arround 25% before he became untargetable. (can have everyone nuke here during his transition)

P2: single target nuke, we first killed the 2 lords who came flying down so the melee could assist dps on the scions. (stay in the spark until the first shield pops, gives you a few secs of sparkpower to nuke). we had 2 minutes left when we reached P3. (2 minutes when he was channeling the big boom on the floor).

P3: we had 2 healers and 8 DPS, use a 112 rotation for dps (some including myself did 1112 but as time went by i realised that 112 was the way else we wouldnt have made it), you can survive 1 surge at max health so dont need really a shield here only if you are lower then full health or he casts a second time on you, you need to shield. you cannot screw up during this phase or you wont make it.

Kommentar von Elana

http://www.warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=100659

This is a full featured video guide with audio and text comments about how to get the achievement "You Don't Have An Eternity", the second version, post patch 3.0.8 In the movie you'll see the 10man version, but the tactics are the same for the heroic version!

Kommentar von 316901

Just to throw out a random fact. It is possible to do it if you get the second vortex. Our last attempt (one in which we got achievement) we messed up and got the second vortex, got him to about 3million before he started, and he ended up with about 1.56 million left when p2 started.

Doomguard helps if you have a warlock. :)

Kommentar von 153834

Locks can nuke him when he casts Vortex, just u need to know how :)
It is simple, but useful:
1.: At the start of the fight make a Demonic Circle on the ground.
2.: When he casts Vortex, let you in, then teleport quickly out. This saves you from loads of damage + you can do more dmg to him + healerz need to heal you less, saving mana + you can also get the spark, saving the risk of wipe.

:) Hope this helps

Kommentar von 330765

i would say going all ranged dps would be best chance to get it, and burning him to like 35%

Kommentar von 317493

We did it on heroic after 2 nights of tries, it was quite hardcore, can anyone tell how much harder/easier it is on normal?

Kommentar von Yamboo

Did this today with the following setup:
Tankadin
Retadin
Destrolock
SV-Hunter x2
Elemental Schamy (heal assist)
Restoration Schamy
Blood-Deathknight
Frostfire Mage
Feral Druid
Got him below 50% before the second Vortex and even with two dead damage dealers at phase three 20% and one damage dealer who couldn't do any damage in phase three because his bars didn't shift. 15 seconds left.
Get everyone to eat the Healthstone during the Vortex so you don't need any hots.

Kommentar von 341446

This was one of our last two for glory of the raider (with 8man malygos) and took us two nights. The first night we had difficulty getting through to p2 with only 1 vortex, we were 2-3% dps short. For whatever reason, we came back with a less synergized group and did it:

Warrior tank
Resto Druid
Resto Shaman
Mage
Warlock
Blood DK dps
Unholy DK dps
Ret Paladin
Moonkin
Elemental Shaman

Hit hero right as the first spark died, casters took a haste or wild magic pot as second spark died and we were able to take him down. We had him around 35% going into phase 3 and used the following macro to help with dragon DPS:

/tar Malygos
/castsequence reset=target Flame Spike, Engulf in Flames, Flame Spike

This makes your first engulf be 1,2, and all subsequent rotations 1,1,2. It's a cast sequence so it can't break the rotation, which helps for people who have trouble keeping track of moving and keeping their stacks up. We used two healers in conjunction with this and no shields for p3.

NOTE: Very important, the macro won't work if its bound to anything on your 1-9 or 0 - = ` row. It basically has to be bound to a letter key or one of the function buttons, because Malygos p3 disallows the use of your entire number bar.

Kommentar von Cryptonyxx

I suggest downloading these two addons; Malygos Helper and Malygos Stacks, both can be found on curse. Helper keeps track of everyones stacks and has a bar that shows the duration of your current stack, the other shows your own amount of stacks much better than helper.

Did it last night after an hour and a half of wiping it because we wouldn't do enough damage in time or 2+ people died somehow.. First off everyone has to be buffed as much as possible, fish feasts, flasks, and haste pots.

You have to get maly to 50% before his 2nd vortex, if you get 2nd vortex you can still have enough time but much less chance at it, we were about 30 seconds off when we tried to continue it.

Five seconds after first(and only) vortex pop heroism, everyone must stand in spark that is killed right after, and once the 2nd spark is stacked use haste pot and blow everything you have.

Phase 2, all ranged stay on the mobs that fly and melee kill the ones on the ground. Also only go in every other bubble, you don't need to move every single bubble.

Phase 3, 8 people will be dpsing and 2 healing. Do not use flame shield and move to the right immediately when you get the damage debuff, make sure to stay stacked with healers. DPS Rotation should be 1-1-2 as fast as possible to get maximum amount of stacks, sometimes you'll only have a split second to press 2 before stack wears off so you really have to keep it up.

We had 2 dps die around 15% and still downed him with 15 secs left on the timer. Everyone had the same amount of stacks, make sure you call out people if they're on bad stacks to... help motivate them to do better :D

Our group makeup:
Death knight - Blood
Death knight - Blood
Shaman - Enhance
Priest - Shadow
Priest - Shadow
Hunter - Survival
Druid - Balance
Warrior - Prot
Shaman - Resto
Priest - Holy

Not needed but you'll want two shamans to speed up attempts because of heroism cooldown.
Two death knights is a must if you want to have best time possible with death grips.

Kommentar von Flugger

We did this achievement last week with almost 30 seconds left on timer. Basically, we did like most other people suggest.

Phase 1

Everyone needs to do steady 3000 DPS within the first 40 seconds of the fight - without the use of heroism or cooldowns. After first vortex you will have 50 seconds to nuke him to 50% - have your shaman pop heroism / bloodlust when it's 40 seconds till second vortex. By this time first spark will be dead - don't use your cooldowns yet. Second spark will be close enough to be death gripped 10 seconds later, giving the raid approx 25 seconds to pop their cooldowns and burn him down. Everyone needs to do over 8000 DPS between first and second vortex - which is more than doable with an average group.

Phase 2

We had all ranged dps start on the flying mobs immidiately while the melee dps took care of the ground mobs theirself. We had 3 melee DPS and 5 ranged DPS (and 1 druid healer). Seing you spent 2 minutes on Phase 1 you will spend about the same time on this phase - maybe alittle shorter, giving you about 1.5 minutes to kill him down in phase 3.

Phase 3

We had 25% hp left on Malygos in the start of phase 3. We used 8 dps drakes and 1 healer. Where everybody used 1 - 1 - 2 rotation and skipped the shield for more DPS.

We got him on our first try, no real issue at all (we're not even a hardcore guild).

Group setup:

Warrior Protection
Druid Resto
Druid Balance
Rogue Combat
Warrior Fury
Death Knight Unholy
Mage Arcane
Warlock Affliction
Hunter Survival
Shaman Elemental

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Kommentar von Zharon

I solo healed this encounter as a holy pally which made this achievement so much easier to get. We were able to take 8 DPS.

Kommentar von 343713

Is it possible to keep the sparks in 1 place using a warlock's fear?

Kommentar von cechjakpoleno

Done it few minutes ago. The most important thing is we had only one healer, and two ppl healing in phase 3.
Got to 2nd phase without 2nd vortex and killed him with 20 secs left.
Even if our healer died at end of phase 2 because of being IK when out of bubble same as mage, we did chain-battleresing :p and managed to kill him in time.

I (I was tank) turned Malygos back to 1st spark, and DK deathgripped 2nd spark. then we blew up all our cooldowns and take him down to 30% untill 2nd phase begun.
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Group:
Druid feral (tank)
Druid resto
DK (dunno spec, just dps :)
Priest shadow
Priest shadow
Priest shadow
Warrior fury
Rogue (again dunno spec, just dps :)
Mage arcane
Shaman elemental
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Allmost all of us had full naxx25 gear
I can say key to this fight is to bring only one but experienced healer. Then you can do some mistakes and still kill him in time.

Kommentar von 287504

A resto druid with good gear and the rejuv idol can easily solo heal phase 1 with ageared tank, i did it with a 35k hp unbuffed tank. the only problem came when suring phase 2 after DB i didnt have the gcd's to keep everyone up, because i was pvp spec and didnt have our reduced gcd or wild growth. with a full pve spec it should be very easy to keep a rejuv on everyone in the raid at all times, thus preventing anyone from dying except to insta gib bursts in phase 2. a second class in the group that can offheal that phase is very useful for helping against bursts. during vortex a spriest can easily pop out and POM to increase the chances of no1 dying also.

this is with zero ulduar gear on the healer, though the tank did have great gear which made it easier to raid heal due to not spammin on the tank.

Kommentar von kronchev

Looks like he's bugged in 4.0.1, at least for this. Tried it twice and he heals to 70-90% once you drop down.

Come to think of it, the amount he was missing P3 is roughly at what he was at in the end of P1. Awesome.

Kommentar von Amberseal

He is currently bugged in 4.0.1 but this is still trivial.

He will gain an extra 50% health between Phase 1 and 3. So, just get 4-5 good ranged DPS, stack up the first two spark patches before 50% then Bloodlust and nuke when you get him to 55% or so. By doing this you can reduce him to almost
0% while he is flying around giving the speech before the transition into P2.

He'll start Phase 3 at (Phase 1 health + 50%). Don't bother shielding on the drakes, just have 8 DPS drakes doing only DPS and 2 healer drakes who know what they are doing. It's pretty easy to keep everyone alive and get him down before 6 minutes.

Kommentar von 203799

This bugged out for us tonight - we got him to 1 health in P1, still had to do P2, and then he died immediately after P3 began. No credit for guild achieve.

Kommentar von urakantu

solo'd it as a blood DK in dps gear (490ilvl). be sure to use ranged spells (icy touch, death coil) when he takes off at the end of p1 to make p2 faster. also take some help from power sparks ( /tar power macro helps ) i made into p2 before second power spark appears.
thanks to nobbel for solo guide: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoI5MeLD_PE

Kommentar von Jops

I killed Malygos solo in under 5 minutes but did not get the achievement. Asked a GM about it, and apparently there are no know bug, but there had been several reports lately that seem to indicate that if you wipe on your first try, the timer might not get reset properly for your second try.

Got the achievement the week after when doing it correctly on the first try. :o)

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