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Kommentar von 107095

3.0.8 appears to have fixed the issue.

Kommentar von 202896

Confirmed this has been fixed and it's very easy. Make everyone in your guild take ANY AoE damage off their button bars. One accidental cast will easily kill one of them. (Took Chain Lightning off mine and glad I did cause I kept hitting it occasionally out of habit). Only took maybe 45-60 seconds longer than a normal kill, too.

Many guilds are now getting this achievement. Got ours last night. :)

http://www.wowprogress.com/achievement/2183

Kommentar von Searah

Yes it is fixed now. If your guild can complete the Patchwerk achievement, it should be able to complete this.

The only real issue is what was mentioned above regarding AOE damage. The spores are VERY fragile.

Kommentar von aliceit

It's fixed now. here's the key to completing this achievement.

Spores shouldn't be killed during the fight, so don't use AoE spells. They will despawn after some time (even during the fight), so no problem.

Beware! Mages' Mirror Images may attack the spores instead of Loatheb.

Your Holy Paladins may tank spores with Righteous Fury up, spamming Flash of Light. They hit for approx. 200-250 on plate, so PW:Shield and paladins' shield will protect the paladin from taking any damage.

Kommentar von 120701

Also, the spores are apparently tauntable. You can have 2 tanks just using taunt and pulling them away from the raid to make things easier.

Kommentar von EvilElpay

Wowjutsu.com says that 0% of guilds have achieved this so far.

Kommentar von 94427

Since this achievement is now considered progress on www.wowprogress.com, many guilds will now be interested in gaining this achievement. Rather than wipe repeatedly to discover things easily researched, I gathered all the info I could on the encounter and wrote this guide to post on my guild's strategy forum.

Overview:

Spores:
- Have about 3150 HP.
- Usually spawn about 40 yards away from Loatheb in any direction, not only by the grates.
- Despawn after 1 min and 30 seconds, but do not count as dying as of patch 3.0.8.
- Tauntable.
- Immune to CC.
- Melee for very insignificant damage (rumored to be 20-200).

Loatheb:
- Loatheb has 20,220,250 HP.
- Soft "enrage" is 5 minutes. There is no real hard enrage/berserk. During the soft enrage, the cooldown on his Inevitable Doom ability is halved.
- At least 67,400 raid DPS is needed to defeat him before his soft enrage.
- Loatheb ability: Deathbloom (Instant Cast) - Inflicts 400 Nature damage on everyone within 100 yards every 1 sec. for 5 sec, followed by an additional 1500 Nature damage. Cast every 30 seconds.
- Loatheb ability: Inevitable Doom (Instant Cast) - Inflicts 5000 Shadow damage to everyone within 100 yards after 10 sec. First cast is after 2 minutes of combat and is cast every 30 seconds until the soft enrage and then every 15 seconds.
- Loatheb ability: Necrotic Aura (Instant Cast) - A wave of necrotic energy fills the room, completely preventing all healing effects for 17 sec. Cast every 20 seconds.
- Absorption effects: Up for debate, but while the the necrotic aura is active, absorption effects such as PW:Shield, Divine Aegis, and Sacred Shield do not absorb any damage. It's rumored that absorption effects may absorb the final tick of Death Bloom.

Goal:

Do not kill any spores and kill Loatheb quickly. Without the spores, it will feel like a DPS race just like getting the Make Quick Werk of Him achievement, considering the level of DPS needed to kill him before too long after the enrage timer. To accomplish this goal, you should plan to prevent spores from going anywhere near Loatheb nor should you severely limit the DPS.

Tactics:

- Limit AoE effects. AoEs that are normally used for single targets such as Whirlwind, Divine Storm, Thunderclap, Shockwave, Heartstrike, Chain Lightning, Avenger's Shield, Howling Blast and other instant AoEs must be used with extreme caution (look before you use them). AoEs with a duration that are hard to control such as Consecration, Unholy Blight, or Bladestorm should not be used. Uncontrollable pets such as non-Unholy DK pets, Treants, Gargolyes, or Mirror images should not be used. Retribution Aura, Lightning Shield, and Thorns should not be used. Fire/Earth Ele totems and Hunter traps should not be used. Prot Warriors with the Damage Shield talent must be careful not to gain aggro on spores. Personally, as a Fury Warrior, I only used WW 4 times and still managed 3800 DPS with the Jawbone and Colossal Skull Axe as weapons.

- Tank the spores. Holy Paladins with Righteous Fury can use their taunts and heal aggro them. People who can throw up a group buff (like PW:Shield or Battle Shout aggro except that we don't want these aggro'd on Warriors). People who can regain "power" such as mana/rage/hp/energy (like Bloodrage aggro - again, we don't want Warriors to tank them). Shamans may strategically place Stoneclaw totems. People who are not designated as a suitable tank (can have many suitable tanks) should avoid using any abilities that would build aggro on the spores.

- Positioning. Have all the people who do not want to aggro the spores to group up close to Loatheb at his back. Since healers, buffers, etc. are aggroing the spores, you should accommodate them. So if they end up fighting for aggro for spores, they do not want a spore cross through Loatheb if the spore tanks are standing on opposite sides. This is up for debate. My suggestion is to have with healers in the center, with the DPS by the outer walls or corners, MT is a bit away from the center, and with Loatheb close to the wall between all the DPS and the MT. DPS will cease to use any AoE abilities around the time the spore is due to spawn (DBM tracks it very well) and the MT will move Loatheb to a corner if a spore pops near Loatheb. If it pops anywhere away from Loatheb, the raid proceeds as usual.

- DPS. If attempted as a 20 man for a double achievement with 13 DPS doing an average of 3500 DPS each, it'd take 7:30 to kill him if everyone stays alive. 2:30 worth of the entire raid taking a lot of raid damage with only 3 seconds to try and heal it all. If you do min/maxing with a 25m raid (1 tank, 1 holy paladin, 5 priest, 18 DPS), 3700 DPS each is needed without spores before hitting Enrage.

- Enrage. After a sustained amount of time beyond Enrage, it would not be unusual to see half the raid die except for the MT, the healers, and a number of DPS similar to the amount of healers alive in your early attempts before your healers get used to the damage of inevitable doom being more than they can heal in 3 seconds. Raid leaders and assistants should be prepared to modify groups to make best use of AoE heals such as Prayer of Healing as raid members die. Since hitting enrage will be common for most raids, you may have to look into bringing more healers and to effectively plan and coordinate the healing to keep up more DPS through this stage of the fight. Priests are by far the best, since they can regen enough mana between healing windows and can do a Prayer of Healing and Circle of healing to top off the raid in theory.

Enraged healing requirement scenario:

Deathbloom is 3500 total damage, but is cast every 30 seconds, calculating to an average of 2333 every 20 seconds.
Doom is 5000 every 15 seconds after enrage, calculating to an average of 6667 damage every 20 seconds.

It's hard to give a healer an idea of how bad it can get, since they'd worry about 2 dooms fitting in the one 20 second period if you just go by the average. To give them a scenario, barring partial resists and talents/abilities that increase/decrease damage taken, it would look like this:

5:00 Assume everyone's topped off from the 4:57 healing window with a Deathbloom and Doom freshly cast.
5:06 Down 3500 HP.
5:10 Down another 5000 HP, 8500 total.
5:15 Doom.
5:17 Healers heal up the 8500 damage.
5:25 Down 5000 HP.
5:30 Doom and Deathbloom.
5:36 Down another 3500 HP, 8500 total.
5:37 Healers heal the 8500 damage.
5:40 Down 5000 HP.
5:45 Doom.
5:55 Down another 5000 HP, 10000 total
5:57 Healers heal the 10000 damage.
<repeats>

This is in addition to Loatheb melee attacks. Other things to consider that makes the healing amount needed change: Seal of Blood/Martyr, Lifetap, Berserker Stance for Fury Warriors take additional damage and abilities like Cloak of Shadows every minute, Ice Block/Divine Shield, Shield Wall, Ice Bound Fortitude, Anti-Magic Shell, etc. reduce damage.

Additional Info:

This fight can technically be done with only a tank and healer, as seen in this video. Fight to the very last man and do not kill any spores and you should have this achievement.

My guild personally got this while doing the 20 man achievement this week due to low numbers (Super Bowl), if that's any indication of the difficulty. It took us just under 6 minutes to kill him. http://www.wowmeteronline.com/combat/1881361

Kommentar von 95950

I've created a full guide for this achievement (Post 3.0.8).

You can find it here.

Kommentar von 137927

This is the hardest achievement my guild has gone after. No matter how many times we tell everyone to take any/all AoE effects off their bars, someone still manages to screw it all up. We got him down to 5% once without killing a spore, then a retadin hit BS, or whatever it is, and all our work was wasted.

To put it simply, don't take stupid people with you when going after this achievement.

Kommentar von Core

The valkyrs spawned by Nibelung kill them although the staff owner never changed his target.

Kommentar von speakeasy

For people going back for this, Shadowmourne's proc will kill spores that wander into Melee. I highly recommend having your friends with oranges change weapons before this fight.

Kommentar von 579498

Loatheb has a hard enrage of 12-13 minutes, I haven't read this on any of the comments so throwing it out there. My prot pally friend (367 ilevel) and i (arcane mage 383 ilevel) 2manned both noth and heigan with little difficulty, but whittling down Loatheb's 20+ million health pool proved to be too much of a challenge inside that enrage timer, we got him to about 1 million hp. Eventually he got on his second account and just tabbed back and forth doing some dps to push us over the top. You need about 30k raid (or party) wide dps to kill him within the hard enrage.

Kommentar von 302353

Little minions spawned by T12 2 set bonuses kill the spores if they hit you. The minions seem to be on defensive stance by default. Don't have the 2 set active if you're trying this, I just found out the hard way.

Kommentar von 539594

Is it bugged since 5.1/5.2? i've killed loatheb 2 times as a blood dk, no aoe at all and i still can't get the achievement

Kommentar von Eillesthis

5.2 (and such) Jägers, un-equip your Finsteres Juju and all but one piece of your Schlachtrüstung des Saurokjägers (for Item - Hunter T15 2P Bonus), and of course turn off Donnerstampfer on your pet. They'll kill the spores.

Kommentar von MrVirtualCoder

It's funny that most of my Frost gear has a passive and 1-item-only-necessary "bonus" being there is a chance to raise a "fallen Zandalari.. to fight by my side." Gee, Blizzard, what a bonus! It just so happens I cannot do this achievement with most of my gear.. Gee, Blizzard, how do you manage to make so many bonuses?

You'd think Blizzard would think this through a bit more.. and maybe.. not make the stupid ***** ghouls that I didn't ask for, not attack random bystanders that are no threat to me.

Kommentar von rpgamers

As we cannot control our counter attacks, 'tis very difficult to solo this achievement as a monk. Sure, any aoe will kill the spores, but beware, your counter attacks, chi torpedo, or chi wave will kill the spores too and it's a real pain in the ass.

Kommentar von 1142220

After 5.4, if you have the legendary cape, Make sure you unequip your legendary cape Xing-Ho, Atem von Yu'lon. The proc will kill the spores and you won't get the achievement.

Kommentar von Gallatyn

Finally succeeded on achieving this last night. Let me tell you, it was a bugger bear. I will share some tips we figured out on how to accomplish this with 2 people (a mage and a pally tank).

Basic strategy: Pally sits in middle of room and taunts all spores. Mage kites boss around outside perimeter of room, away from spores, and stops only to do DPS when able to get 2-3 shots off...then resumes kiting.

Tips:
1. Turn off your "auto attack" feature (in interface setup under combat tab). Why? Well, after failing it 6 times in a row, the pally realized that while he was taunting spores, his auto attack would randomly activate and smack one and kill it...causing us to fail.

2. Take off all gear that has a "cleave" attack feature...i.e. Legendary Capes. (That failed attempt was my bad).

3. Obviously, only use single-target attacks which do not "cleave" to surrounding targets. As a Frost Mage I ONLY used Frostbolt. Do NOT use mirror image or your elemental. I easily kept myself healed using my Glyph of Evocation and Invocation talent.

4. Don't use any shields, auras, armor, etc. that cause damage to the enemy when it hits you.

5. This fight takes a long time. BUT, the boss has an insanely long enrage timer...like 13 minutes...so just keep kiting and stopping every once in awhile to put in a couple of hits. The key is patience.

Kommentar von Oxithius

Very easy achievement to get as of 5.4

Prot warrior ilvl 564 atm,

Just start the fight and every time a spore pops up, just take the boss somewhere in the room so the spores will be on your back and boss on front, single target rotation SS>DEV>HS, with popping SB, Recklessness and Bloodbath to inc damage output, and Impending victory when hp drops below 80

no need to watch your legendary cape (absorbs) or bonussets (healz) as a tank

ezpz, cheers

Kommentar von Mayzen

Did it in patch 6.0.2 as lvl 571 warlock with a voidlord tanking Loatheb. Legendary cape was in the bag just to be safe.
When spores got too close I ordered the voidlord to the other side of the room. The spores caught up to me or voidlord a couple of times, but apparently that did not matter.

Kommentar von adamfazai

WoD 6.0.3 Update

Done Very easy with Frost Mage

I just dismissed my Water Elemental, and avoid to use splash damaged spells like Ice lance while spores were near.

Kommentar von Manniala

I was in there today, i was able to solo it at just ilvl 954, was a tough one, but i managed to get it down in less then a hour /cheer

Naah you can just chaos bold it, or what ever you got that can 1 shot it, the achievement is your then

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Sporenschoner (25 Spieler)

Bezwingt Loatheb in Naxxramas im 25-Spieler-Modus, ohne dabei Sporen zu vernichten.

Sporenschoner (25 Spieler)

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