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Kommentar von Saschalein

Für Hurra, hurra, die Schule brennt! gilt es 50 Aussortiertes Versuchsobjekt innerhalb von 20 Sekunden zu bezwingen. Dafür braucht man Geduld und Zeit. Alle 45 Sekunden castet Dunkelmeister Gandling den Zauber Harsche Lektion. Ein Spieler wird in den Nebenraum geportet und dort erscheinen dann die Aussortiertes Versuchsobjekt. Diese dürfen nicht getötet werden, sondern man kitet sie durch den Raum bis die Tür von alleine aufgeht. Das geschieht nach 45 Sekunden beim nächsten Cast von Harsche Lektion. Draußen muss jeder seine Adds weiter durch den Raum kiten bis alle Spieler welche haben. Sind alle 50 da, auf eine Stelle ziehen und bomben. Der Boss muß für diesen Erfolg nicht zwingend sterben.

Kommentar von Mirco1502

Achtung. Der Erfolg ist leider NICHT Solo-machbar. Denn Dunkelmeister Gandling castet Harsche Lektion leider nicht, wenn nur ein Spieler anwesend ist. Man muss also mindestens zu Zweit sein. Eventuell funktioniert es mit Klassen die einen Begleiter beschwören können, so wie Jäger oder Magier/Hexenmeister.

Kommentar von Regicidio

Der Erfolg
Um Dunkelmeister Gandling herum sind verschlossene Räume, in denen sich je 10 Aussortiertes Versuchsobjekt befinden.
Sobald der Boss Harsche Lektion wirkt, wird ein Spieler in einen solchen Raum teleportiert.
Die Türe öffnet sich sobald alle 10 Aussortiertes Versuchsobjekt gestorben sind oder eine gewisse Zeit abgewartet wurde.
Wenn 50 Aussortiertes Versuchsobjekt verfügbar sind, tötet diese innerhalb von 20 Sekunden.

Der Erfolg ist ein Teil-Erfolg von Heldenruhm von Pandaria, welcher euch mit Zügel der Purpurwolkenschlange belohnt.

ACHTUNG
Dunkelmeister Gandling wirkt Harsche Lektion nicht, wenn sich nur ein Spieler in der Instanz befindet und gleichzeitig das Ziel vom Boss ist.
Zudem wird Harsche Lektion auf jedem Spieler nur einmal gewirkt, was bedeutet ihr habt pro Spieler nur 10 Aussortiertes Versuchsobjekt zur Verfügung. Also beachtet: Ihr benötigt 5 Spieler!

Sobald ein Aussortiertes Versuchsobjekt stirbt, kann der Erfolg im aktuellen Kampf-Geschehen nicht mehr abgeschlossen werden,
Es reicht ein Boss-Reset aus, um es noch einmal zu probieren.

Tipp
Aufstellung:
Level 90: Mit Level 90 Charaktere wird eine solche Aufstellung empfohlen: 1 Tank - 2 Heiler - 2 DPS
Level 91+: Höhere Stufen benötigen lediglich einen Charakter der Heilen kann und 4 weitere Spieler.
Anpassung der Ausrüstung:
Wechselt Equip oder zieht es aus, wenn die Gefahr besteht, dass ein Ausrüstungsteil unkontrolliert AoE Schaden verursacht.
Während des Kampfes:
Spieler, die durch Harsche Lektion teleportiert werden, laufen an allen 10 Aussortiertes Versuchsobjekt vorbei, damit sie dem Spieler folgen.
Ihr sammelt euch immer wieder beim Heiler, welcher durch seine Heilzauber die Aggro von allen Aussortiertes Versuchsobjekt (Ab 91+ auch vom Boss) bekommt. Wurden alle Spieler teleportiert und sind wieder gesammelt könnt ihr mit AoE alle Aussortiertes Versuchsobjekt töten.
Der Erfolg wird euch vor dem Töten von Dunkelmeister Gandling verabreicht, so könnt ihr nochmals kontrollieren, ob es wirklich alle waren.

Kommentar von YunaLea

UPDATE 08 /2023

Die Quest ist mit zwei Spielern machbar. Es wurde scheinbar gefixt das man 5 Leute braucht. Wichtig ist, das man etwas Geduld mitbringt. Wir haben den Boss "nackt" gepullt wegen etwaiger Schmuckstücke etc. und dann gewartet. Wenn er harsche Lektion castet wird man in den Raum geportet und läuft einfach raus, inkl. der Adds (nicht killen) dann wird der andere in den nächsten Rau geportet und so weiter - bis alle Türen offen sind. Dann einfach alles in die Mitte ziehen und einen schönen AOE legen. Dann den Boss killen und tata :) Es ist also nicht nötig mit Alt + F4 und Serverhopping und und und sich einen knoten in die Finger zu machen. Easy mit nem anderen Spieler zusammen und ein wenig Zeit.

Viel Erfolg.

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Kommentar von kellyislame

No more pencils.
No more books.
No more teacher's dirty looks.

Kommentar von Nui1

Every 45 or so seconds he casts harsh lesson on a random target including the tank.
In the room will be 10 undead mobs called expired test subjects, so you have to wait for all 5 of your group members to be teleported into their individual rooms.
The doors of the rooms open when he casts another harsh lesson or there abouts.
Group up or individually aoe your zombies within 20seconds after all 5 group members have been teleported.
The adds can be kited easily they are really slow.

We found it easier to wait in the rooms until all 5 party members had been teleported and group up at the last members door and wait for it to open/ wait for the adds to group up. This is so the people still on the boss can aoe down the 'failed students' that spawn through out the fight.

Kommentar von mannaroth

Video tutorial here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHloauSGId4&feature=plcp

He teleports random players into rooms full of Expired Test Subjects and Failed Students. When you get teleported inside, you can kill the Failed Students and run around until the door opens. The Expired Test Subjects will follow you outside.

There are 10 Expired Test subjects in each room. Once you have 50 total, you can AoE them down for the achievement. The adds move very slowly, so can be kited by your tank. Even if your tank gets teleported, there is nothing that really needs to be tanked, as the boss just chain casts spells.

Kommentar von clippingalldots

Was quite simple to do this achiev. Our setup was:

Prot Warrior
Affliction Warlock
Elemental Shaman
Fire Mage
Holy Paladin

The Prot Warrior tanked the boss in the middle of the room where he spawns. The Holy Paladin healed with RF on so all the adds automaticly jumped on him. To avoid any dmg on them, he kited the adds on the upper part while the shaman would ocasionally throw heals on the tank in case the healer would get overwhelmed. All the 3 dps stood about halfway on the stairs and dotted / chain lighting the Failed Students to avoid them going on the healer. Just AoE those adds. Warlock and Mage stopped the dps at around 20% to let the healer get all the adds.
Once we had the 50 adds, the paladin just dispelled Explosive Pain.

A tip for warlocks: if you place your teleport at the bottom of the stairs, no matter which room you get teleported to, you will always have your teleport in range and can immediatly teleport out of the room saving you the hassle of dealing with any adds at all.

Edit: I guess the "downrate trigger happy" gang passed by.

Kommentar von 924457

This achievement is a reference to James Patterson's Maximum Ride action-adventure series: School's Out—Forever.

Kommentar von Kaerei

Like Yunaku said, this Achievement is in reference to James Patterson's Maxiumum Ride second novel called "School's Out-Forever." The series is about kids who were test subjects and come to find out that they all have an "Expiration Date."

Kommentar von scharky

A fun reference to the Alice Cooper song, "School's Out" (1972). Uses great wordplay in the form of double entendre:

Well we got no class,
And we got no principles (principals),
And we got no innocence,
We can't even think of a word that rhymes!

To get the achievement, don't immediately engage Expired Test Subjects after being given a Harsh Lesson. Instead, wait for everyone to be sent to their own room, then all engage the Test Subjects at the same time and /profit.

Kommentar von 689829

I queued for Scholomance as a DPS, then when we got to it, switched to Protection spec, and used abilities such as Piercing Howl and Mocking Banner to try to gather up the Expired Test Subjects without damaging them. We also got lucky this time, since he decided to summon Failed Students before any of the doors opened, and we could kill them without fear of harming the Expired Test Subjects.

For this acheivement, class makeup matters less than how willing and able the group is to cooperate. A single person killing their Expired Test Subjects prematurely can ruin your attempt at the achieve. Additionally, it's possible to accidentally kill the Test Subjects; on two occasions, we gathered them all together, AOEd them down and found out that there were only 48 Test Subjects there. Since only 50 spawn, you can't afford to prematurely kill a single one, and since they have less than 100,000 HP, it's easy to do so. Patience, care and teamwork are most important here.

Kommentar von 1110852

Cannot be soloed he doesnt teleport you if you are alone. Even using Xuen and gnomes from bad juju trinket he would not port me :/

Kommentar von kellyislame

Just tried to two man this boss and he does not cast Harsche Lektion more than once on the same target so you will need a group of five people to get this achievement.

Kommentar von neopatra

This achiev is pretty easy. here are the tacts:

warning: Need 5 ppl for this achiev as boss teleport every person only once!

1. Tank taunt boss, and wait until all group get teleported. when somone teleported, just run from the zombies.
Dont dps boss at all, don't dps adds with the name "Expired Test subject" at all.
but u can kill any add that is not "Expired Test subject", just make sure to kill the far from the "Expired Test subject" adds, and don't use aoe.

2. when all get teleported, then all go out to boss same time, wait for all zombies to gather there and look (using the macro I'll write down here) if you have 50 "Expired Test subject" adds. then aoe them and get the achiev.

Macro is:
/run local count = 0 for i = 0, 10000, 1 do if _G ~= nil and _G:IsVisible() then count = count + 1 end end SendChatMessage("Number of add I see: " .. count,"INSTANCE_CHAT")

to use the macro first press V to see enemy name plates. then when you click the macro button you will get the number of these in front of you.
remember that with boss there have to be 51 adds. make sure all of them are "Expired Test subject" and not some other type of adds.
if some adds are missing at the end and you don't find them anywhere, it means you killed some in mistake. wipe and try again.

Kommentar von 1377751

Your legendary cloak will kill test subjecs , so remove it along with other aoe items ie trinkets

Kommentar von Roguewan

I can confirm that you still need a full party to be able to complete this achievement as of 6.0.3.

Kommentar von Lihborg

Pretty easy achi as of patch 6.0 and onwards. The hardest part was finding 4 others willing to do the achi. When that was done you just have to wait about 4-5 mins for everyone to get ported in and then stack and aoe.

Kommentar von Cronien

Nowadays the challenge in this achievement lies in your ability to organize four other peeps to come and help out and make sure none of you screws up. After that though, its pretty easy!

Kommentar von Cantralian

The biggest challenge at 100 is keeping the Expired Test Subjects (ETS) alive. You can't readily AoE down the Failed Students as you risk killing the ETS or Darkmaster himself, and carefully picking them off is a challenge in the 8 seconds before they explode, but if they explode among your ETS, the ETS will die.

After trying a few different tactics, we hit on a way that was very effective. You need a pet class and your pet plays tank. We had three pets (2 hunters, 1 warlock), so we set them up in front of the boss. One hunter tapped him then eased him (w/ misdirect) down to 89% (he didn't seem to want to cast Harsh Lessons above 90%) and players started getting ported out.

The ported players stayed in their rooms with their ETS, except for the pet players, who went far enough out of the room to set their pets on the boss: quick pet attack then passive and positioned next to Darkmaster to get on the threat table. They then moved towards the back of their rooms.

When the Failed Students came out, they attacked the pets for 8 seconds and exploded. The ETS were never in any danger. Once the last Failed Student was down, the players met next to the stairs and we AOEd down all the ETS. Hey, presto, achievement.

tl;dr: bring a hunter or warlock, have their pet passively tank while everyone else stays in their rooms with their ETS until after the Failed Students are summoned and have exploded, then kill them all.

Kommentar von onecrazykid

Credit goes here for the macro: Ich bin die Hopfokalypse!#comments:id=1949133

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I wrote a macro that can be used to complete this achievement. You need to activate the enemy name plates by pressing "v", then use the macro. The total of enemies will appear in chat.

/run local count = 0 for i = 0, 10000, 1 do if _G ~= nil and _G:IsVisible() then count = count + 1 end end print(count)
Adahlis: How do I get it to say it in /instance chat
/run local count = 0 for i = 0, 10000, 1 do if _G ~= nil and _G:IsVisible() then count = count + 1 end end SendChatMessage("Count: " .. count,"INSTANCE_CHAT")
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Even though he used it for the other achievement, it can be used here too. Just have everyone gather in a corner, face away from the boss, and run it. Just got it with a group and the first time, I only counted 46.....some of the subjects didn't come out of the room, so we would have been short. So we reset and everything worked second time.

Kommentar von samisamer1

Don't be surprised if he doesn't teleport you to the Expired Test Subjects rooms, I just finished it with 4 guild mates, and he never teleport any of us. Only the doors for the test subject rooms opened. We had to go inside and pull the mobs.
Just wanted to let you know about that. Could be a bug from the new Legion pre-patch. Or the new mechanics. Cant be sure now.

Kommentar von Keenclaw

It still does not work solo and needs full 5 member party.

When doing this achievement during Legion pre-patch, boss casted teleportation but no one got teleported. But gates opened like normal after each attempted teleportation, we manually gone in rooms and taunted them. 4 rooms opened, 5th room did not open, some mobs spawned again and we managed to hit 50 and got the achievement.

Kommentar von soneil

Tried it recently with a group of 5 level 110s. He doesn't seem to actually port people any more. When the message appeared the door opened and they started coming out but we didn't move.

We waited til they were all together after all 5 rooms had opened and nuked them. You may need to go in some rooms to agro them. Make sure you don't have them grouped on boss. We tried that first time and failed the achievement since not all 50 of them were down before the boss died. They have to die before the boss so group them up separate from the boss and then do it.

Kommentar von S2005

7.1 - Still can't solo it.

I didn't even see him cast Harsh Lessons... I stood there and let him try to immolate me for about 5 minutes. None of the gates opened, and I was unable to click, or pass through any of them.

110 Ret Paladin

Kommentar von Nefele

As of patch 7.2 it's still not soloable.

Kommentar von Fatdrunkard

Hey guys. I found a way to solo this. You WILL need 5 characters total, preferably level 100+. I'm also not sure if this is fully within the rules of the game.

Anyway it's really easy but kind of tedious:
First you fly your 5 characters inside Scholomance instance which you should've cleared up to the last boss already.
AFTER, you simply put all 5 of your characters inside the boss room. A quick way to do this is by having WOW running twice. Alt tab every time one of your characters is in place and log into the new version to the second character, this will automatically log out the previous character.
(ATTENTION: The above and next part should be done as quick as you can, because if a character is offline for over 5 minutes he will be put outside of the boss room!)

Once all 5 characters are inside the boss room you log back into the first character you placed there and engage the boss. Log out immediately into your second character, third, fourth and fifth. Just to keep resetting the 5 min timer. Repeat this until 4 characters have been teleported into a side room. The fifth room should unlock now where you will need to grab the test subjects manually. (My fifth room was one upstairs behind the boss, not sure if it'll always be the same.)

Once this is done you round them all up and aoe them down away from the boss,and then kill the boss. Enjoy your achievement!

PROOF: https://i.imgur.com/9EGx1PV.jpg
NOTE: In my limited experience this worked for all old WoW achievements which require multiple people.

Kommentar von pindelz

i payed 4 randoms 2k gold each to come and do this with me.
not the cheapest way but i dont have very good patience.
let them heal u once each or dispell, anything that gets them in combat then he will start teleporting people.
as a monk i used the statue(ww or bm only) that aggros so i kept them safe and away from boss so we could do it.

Kommentar von thenarutardd

Still not soloable in 7.3.5 :(

Kommentar von Mhystral

Just updating since comments are so old. Yes you still need 5 ppl and yes everyone will be ported. Just make sure you unequip weapons or any trinket that might trigger. We designated left corner of stairs to bring adds down, when everyone had their 10 we just aoed them down. Was pretty easy.

Kommentar von Extium23

I am going to try this achievement this evening 27/04/2018 8:00 p.m. CET time (EU server), if you want to join group add me as btag friend #Stifmeister2532 or search for "School's out forever" in group finder from 19:30/19:40 CET.

Kommentar von Ignamist

Just did this with 5 level 110 people, here are some tips:

- Bring 5 people who can someway reset the boss, with Shadowmeld, or mage Invisibility.
This is because the boss bugs out sometimes and doesn't teleport people, keeping the gates closed. Also in case you accidentally kill a mob before you have everything. You can all reset the boss and try again.
We had 3 Shadowmelds and 1 mage, and we had to resummon our last member after each try we failed.

- Don't forget to take off trinkets and neck enchants that could accidentally kill the adds or boss. I cannot stress enough how many times I've failed my achievements because my partner forgot to take off something that hits mobs when he gets damaged.

- Lead all adds upstairs so you don't accidentally kill the boss when it's time to kill them.

- Sometimes when the boss doesn't teleport people, he still opens the gates. Wait a bit and run into the rooms to collect the adds if this happens.

Good luck!

Kommentar von fords

Just completed this with a group of five. Using the macro Ylts mentioned above to count the mobs, we couldn't understand why we only had 40 even though we'd all been teleported. This happened on the second attempt too, so we went "sod it", killed the 40 mobs we had and got the achievement.

Kommentar von hbrbh

This can still be done "solo" in BfA if you have 5 characters of appropriate level and an abundance of patience. I advise disabling all addons to make the many, many alt-f4/relogs go by much faster. You have something like 30 seconds between hitting alt-f4 and when your character vanishes, so if you can't get back in-game faster than that, all 5 characters will be offline at once and the boss will reset, making this strategy impossible. Other comments seemed to imply that your character would stay online for longer if you were in combat with the boss, but that's not the case as of BfA. Unless you're doing this with characters across multiple accounts, you'll never have more than two online at once.

If you don't know how to get all 5 of your characters into the same group: create a custom group in the group finder, switch to another character, apply to the group, swap back to the original character to invite, swap back to the applying character to accept. Rinse, repeat.

Once they're all in a group:

Run all 5 to the entrance of Scholomance
Log in to the leader, set your instance to heroic, zone-in and clear up to the final boss. Alt-F4 inside the final boss room.
One by one, log in to the other 4 characters, zone-in, accept the 4/5 instance lock, run into the final room past the gate, Alt-F4.
Once you think you're done, quickly cycle through all 5 characters one more time to make sure they're all in the final boss room past the gate that drops. If they were moved to earlier in the instance, you took too long to run them in. If you don't think you could have done it any faster, try running each character half-way per alt-f4/login cycle to avoid any one character being offline for too long. You can be offline for several minutes before being moved to earlier in the instance, so this shouldn't be much of an issue.

Immediately after you're sure all 5 are in the boss room:

Aggro the boss, alt-f4 and login the next character.
Once the second character is in, you should see your previous character still online for a brief period of time.
Since two characters are in the instance, one of them will be ported eventually. If the previous character drops offline before anyone gets ported, alt-f4 and log into the next character.
This cycle will repeat over and over, with you logging in, waiting for someone to be ported or for the other character to drop offline, then logging onto the next character.
It's important that you cycle through in the same order and that you switch to the next character once the previous gets disconnected. This makes it so there's almost always two characters in-game so that characters keep being ported, and ensures that no single character is offline for too long and sent back to the instance entrance.
Once a character has been ported to each of the rooms, walk through and check each of the 5 rooms to make sure you have aggro on all of the Expired Test Subjects.
Macros can't count past 40 for nameplates anymore, so another method to be super-duper sure is to collect them all in front of you, put a raid marker on one, and count to 50 while you tab through them. It should cycle through them in order, so when you get to 51, you'll be targetting the one with a raid marker again.
Once you're sure, pile them up at the top of the stairs and kill them all at once. You'll get credit right away, no need to kill the boss.
IF SOMETHING GOES WRONG: If you don't get credit because you missed a room or a few mobs, do not kill the boss! Alt-F4 in the bosses room, wait around 30 seconds so that all your characters drop offline and the boss will reset. Cycle through the characters once to avoid them being offline for too long, and start again.

When I did this earlier today, a character was ported shortly after I logged in each time, so it goes by pretty quickly once you've set everything up and pulled the boss. Assuming you did the other achievements for Glory of the Pandaria Hero already, congratulations on your new Reins of the Crimson Cloud Serpent!

Kommentar von projecteulogy

8.0.1 and we still have unsoloable dungeon content 3 xpacs behind the current xpac. The logout method with 5 100+ toons didn't work for me. The boss despawns.

Unless you have 4 friends or guild with people who haven't done it, trying to get the mount associated with this set of achievements for the Glory of the Pandaren Hero is still impossible.

Kommentar von Camirra

This fight is currently extremely bugged. I've been doing a variation of the multiple alts strategy and he simply refuses to cast Harsh Lesson (or anything but incinerate) about 3/5 times if not more. Other times, he'd teleport one or two toons, but then stop casting it. There were even a few cases where he'd cast it, but it wouldn't actually teleport that target, but he'd refuse to cast it on them again, necessitating a reset. Whole fight was a nightmare to get to work and after 2 hours, I gave up and decided to come back later. I was using 2 accounts and keeping my mage online while cycling through alts on the other. I was able to alt+F4 the alt and then use invisibility with the mage to reset the fight when it inevitably bugged. I hope for the sake of everyone who wants the achievement that Blizzard actually fixes this trainwreck of a boss.

Kommentar von Weseb

The method mentioned by hbrbh worked for me but it took me a long time to figure out the mechanics because many times my characters did not get ported at all, especially when the fight got longer. What I realized is that it seems that group members with less aggro get ported on priority. So here is what worked for me in the end:

Prepare everything as described by hbrbh
Strip all characters naked, including weapons
Have one char as your dedicated tank. He will have to stay at top of the aggro table at all time. A tank spec is not required but it has to be a melee class with strong melee attacks and an on demand AOE attack. This char will not start the battle but come in second and will have to always present to draw attacks from the boss
Start the encounter with any other char by auto attacking. One attack should be sufficient
Switch to your dedicated tank but don't attack the boss, just run around in circles until you get ported
If you want to be on the safe side to make sure to not to reset the fight, switch back to your first char directly after the port, then immediately back to your tank
Go back to the main room and autoattack the boss with your tank as much as it takes to aggro him
Now your first char should get ported at one point. If he disappears before this happens, you can either relog to him or switch to another one of your characters
Now for every other group member after login don't attack, just run around in circles, you will eventually get ported
You want to make sure that your tank always stays online, so after each port, directly switch back to your him. I also always attacked once but i don't think this is required. If you do, make sure not to accidently kill the boss
Repeat this for all party members, and once everyone was ported, again cycle through them to get all adds into the main room. Don't forget to always switch back to your tank inbetween
Once all adds are in the main room, equip your weapon and AE them down. Any char can do, but if you do it with your tank, you don't have to worry about resetting the boss.
Congratulations!

TLDR; Have your dedicated tank come in second, only attack after he was ported and have him stay online all the time while switching through all your the other party members. Never attack the boss with the other chars while cycling.

Also, much faster than Alt+F4 is just opening one other wow.exe window and directly log in. You will be automatically disconnected from your first window but the previous char stays online, just like with Alt+F4. This is much faster than always having to start another client and makes the whole encounter much more bearable because you only need to switch between these two windows. With this method I always had 3 chars online the same time (not that this matters for the fight).

Kommentar von Grimmhilda

I was able to do this solo using a 2-account multibox with alts. Basically, a modified version of the alt + f4 strategy, where I had one account tank for simplicity and to prevent the instance from resetting and used four alts on the other account to trigger Harsh Lesson.

It took quite a while for Gandilng to do the first teleport, but after that it went pretty quickly.

Kommentar von Marioace

You can Duo it if you have 5 characters between yourself and a friend. We got the achievement today.

1. Create a party of the 5 characters, inviting and passing lead then switching.
2. Once you have all 5 characters grouped, go through the dungeon until you get to the boss. Log off while inside the room at the top of the stairs.
3. Move the rest of the characters to the same part of the dungeon. All 5 characters should be at the top of the stairs.
4. Walk up to the boss and aggro him. Wait until he sends a player into another room. Don't kill the adds, just wait until gate opens.
5. Alt+F4 the character who just left the room and switch to next character. Make sure one of the players is always logged in.
6. Alternate until all 5 characters have been sent into the room and the adds have been gathered.
7. AoE the adds and get your achievement.

Hope this helps other people out, much easier than getting a full group.

Kommentar von Finneas98

I finally managed to get this achievement done after many many hours of frustration. My method requires having 2 accounts, be that solo or you and a friend. 1 account needs to have 1 level 120 as the assigned 'tank'. It doesn't have to be a tank spec but a melee spec with a taunt would work great. This account has to be logged in at all times. The 2nd account requires 4 characters of appropriate level and at least 1 of those has to be a level 120 with a taunt, I will explain later why this is needed. I used 4 naked 120s but im sure a couple of lower level characters would work too.

Start by getting every individual character to the encounter room. The 'tank' account can stay logged in inside all times and the 2nd account can move each character to the encounter room, log out and bring the next character etc. until all 4 of the 2nd account characters are inside the boss room.

Unequip all items on every character including the 'tank'.

To start the fight, have your 2nd account character that HAS A TAUNT melee the boss once. Then do the same with your 'tank' account character. Now the 2nd account character has to pull agro back, this is why a taunt is needed. The reason for this is - the boss prioritizes his 'harsh lesson' ability on characters with the least threat, this is how we are going to get this to work with my method. And we want the tank account to be the first to get this ability on.

Next your 'tank' account should get the harsh lesson. After getting teleported, move to the gate and wait for it to open. When it opens, move back to the boss room and taunt the boss off your 2nd account. Maybe give it a melee too to ensure you keep agro.

Your first 2nd account character should get harsh lesson next. Get teleported, wait for the gate to open, then hit alt+f4 and log in to the next character on your account. For me all the following characters almost immediately got harsh lesson after logging in. IF YOU DONT GET TELEPORTED AFTER THE CAST DO NOT WORRY. It sometimes bugs out and the gate will open even if you dont get the teleport, just wait and see if the gate opens. Then alt f4 and repeat across all 4 characters on your 2nd account.

When all 5 characters have gotten harsh lesson, gather the mobs up somewhere away from the boss so you dont accidentally hit him and aoe them down with whatever character has the best instant cast aoe. This shouldnt be an issue with 120s. Congrats on your achievement!

I tried many of the methods in this thread and I wouldnt of been able to get this to work without it. Weseb's method was the primary inspiration but the issue with his that took me a while to realize was that after meleeing the boss first on my 2nd account, my 'tank' wasnt getting ported because he was in 'fake' combat with the boss. Because he hadnt done any damage or generated threat, the boss didnt actually register him being in the fight, so i never got ported. I figured this out because every time i wanted to reset the encounter, I kicked my 2nd account character from the group, and after getting teleported out of the boss room it immediately reset. This is because that character was the only person in 'true' combat with the boss. Anyways enough rambling, I hope this method works for you.

Kommentar von popje

Just did it with a group, if you are wondering why you only see 40 adds and not 50, the last 10 didn't have nameplates.

Kommentar von pherkier

It is possible to SOLO this if you use the ALT+F4 strat for scholomance's School's Out Forever achievement. Since you don't actually need everybody to be online in order to complete it. You can login->alt+F4 each character in one party until 5 doors are opened to get all 50 mobs. This strat is frustrating and time consuming and probably illegal, i didn't get ban so i'm sharing this with you lol.

Kommentar von robben1243

This achievement should be removed from meta.

Kommentar von drusalt

I tried this achievement for about 4 hours on 10.19.2020 and couldn't get it to work.

I tried pretty much everyone's method below: bring 5 characters to Scholomance. Cycle through them, one at a time, either starting with the tank or not, and wait to get teleported, then rinse and repeat through my 5 guys.

I found that the first two characters worked flawlessly, every time. I would Alt F4 - or in my case, I just had 2 wow.exe windows up, so Alt Tab, then login the next character. As soon as they got teleported, I would swap to the next guy and repeat.

I found that for no particular reason, and no matter how many attempts I made, Gandling would stop teleporting my characters after the first two attempts. He would get stuck in perpetuity in casting Incinerate.

My PC is fast, and I disabled ALL my addons. I was almost always able to see all 5 of my guys at the same time by logging in and out. I tried going slower, so that ONLY 2 of my guys were in the room with him at any given time, I cycled through numerous different variations of my characters, I tried having only 3 characters in the room with him etc. Nothing seemed to work and I have no idea why.

At one point I had a current attempt at 40 minutes, with no successful 3rd teleport, so I just gave up.

Maybe I'm doing something wrong. I'll give it a go again in a few days when I'm not burned out on it.

I was a bit hesitant to start this achievement because it looked so confusing. After about an hour everything clicked. I can pretty certainly say that I understand how to do the mechanics. Especially if I'm able to see all FIVE of my guys at the same time. There is no reason I can think of why he shouldn't keep teleporting them.

Maybe I'm missing something obvious. Please let me know if I am.

Kommentar von blankdud

Thank you to drusalt for his comment, which has all the information you need to get this achievement. I did this solo with 5 of my post-squish level 50 characters after about 10 tries to get it figured out. I used the Alt+F4 method with having two WoW application windows open.

I also had a few issues with the boss no longer casting Harsh Lesson and going into that Incinerate cycle. I think the reason for this was because you need to make sure the threat is transferred BEFORE he finishes his "RISE" cast.

A reminder that Darkmaster Gandling will cast Harsh Lesson on whoever has the lowest threat, so this achievement is all about manipulating that.
I don't think that classes really matter here, but having taunts helps just save some damage on Gandling overall. The last character I brought in was the one I wanted the achievement on.

These steps assume you've already got your characters grouped together using group finder or whatever, and that you've stripped them naked as to not blow up Gandling.

1) Character #1 starts encounter by taunting / autoing Gandling
2) Switch to #2 and get threat from Ganding. Harsh Lesson will be cast on #1
3) Switch to #3 and get threat from Gandling. Harsh Lesson will be cast on #2

At this point I switched back to #1 and got threat, to avoid awkwardness I was having.

4) Switch to #1 and get threat from Gandling. Harsh Lesson will be cast on #3
5) Switch to #4 and DO NOT DO ANYTHING. Without threat, Harsh Lesson will be cast on #4
6) Switch to #5 and DO NOT DO ANYTHING. Without threat, Harsh Lesson will be cast on #5
7) Get threat with #5 ASAP so that the encounter doesn't de-spawn.
8) Check the rooms to group up the Expired Test Subjects and burn them down for the achievement.
9) Destroy Gandling's face for making you go through all this for a meta achievement.

There are probably numerous ways to do this, but this is the way I did it that I found worked.

Kommentar von dslats715

Easiest way:
- Get a 5 man group.
- Start boss with either walking into him, taunt, or naked auto attack and just wait.
- Have each person stay in their room after they are Harsh Lessoned. When the 5th person, gets sent to the room. Countdown together and AOE down your individual room.
- Achievement should pop
- Kill boss

Our scenario:
We did this at 50 (max level), but for the most part the same strat is needed at all levels unless you go the self / duo party route and force log out.

Warnings/Watch outs:
- If you leave the prison/room after harsh lessons the mobs path gets a little crazy particularly the top rooms.
- At max level, if you get naked to prevent 1 shotting boss make sure to atleast have weapon equipped or near by. Fury warrior almost blew it ;)

Kommentar von Neonemerld

Just wanted to post a comment and say that you actually might not need to do the alt+f4 trick with alts anymore. My boyfriend and I were doing this achievement today and we just got finished setting up my alts. The plan was to leave his character in the fight the entire time and I'd be the one quickly alt-f4ing and swapping characters. So I got 4 of my alts into the party with him and we started the fight. I attacked first, then he immediately taunted off of me so that my character got teleported in. After the gate opened for my character, I ran out so I could taunt the boss off of my boyfriend's character to let him be teleported into another room. So far, all going to plan. But then suddenly as his gate opened, my first character was teleported into another new room. I hadn't even swapped yet.

Turns out, it seems, you actually only need 2 characters to do this now. The boss just went back and forth teleporting me, then him, then me again, etc., until we had all of the test subjects gathered up. We then proceeded to kill them all and got the achievement, all without ever having to swap alts or alt+f4.

Kommentar von Illwillis

Just ran this with my spouse. The comments previous seemed a little unclear as the best way and it was our first run of the dungeon for the meta achievements, so we winged it to just learn what we could for next try.

I agro'd the boss on my lvl 53 Holy Priest and stood there for a while, DBM gave a timer for Hard Lesson or whatever and nothing happened, so I alt+f4'd and logged on to a different character sitting in orgrimmar (to try and despawn my original character). Not sure if that's why it worked, but the boss TPd my spouse to the room, they agro'd all the mobs, and I logged back on to the priest. The rest of the fight was us automatically being alternated to the different rooms, then after getting the last two big pulls we brought them together and I used Holy Nova to blast all of them down.

Kommentar von dawn22868

Just 'soloed' this achievement. You'll need two characters in total (can be the same account).
Before you start the encounter with the last boss make sure that (a) you don't have any kind of randomly proccing dmg spells/abilities and (b) both of your characters are on the stairs leading down to the boss.

In order to get this achievement by yourself follow these steps:

Body pull the boss with character A. (I chose a tank just to be sure). Use non-damaging abilities like Spott. Once you've aggro, exit the game (alt-f4) and log onto character B.
Engage with character B using a non-damaging ability as well. (I used Zauberraub on my mage.)
character A (tank) will be ported soon. Once that's the case, exit the game and swap back to Character A.
On character A, lead the adds back to the boss. Don't attack the adds yet. The gate should be open.
By the time you reach the boss, character B should get ported as well. Exit the game and repeat the same steps on character B.
Rinse and repeat until you have gathered enough adds on one spot and aoe them down. It took me 3 or 4 character swaps to get it done.

I'd also suggest to turn your resolution and graphic settings to the lowest to reduce the loading times.

Kommentar von Intwatcher

Just did this in 9.05 with two people and no shenanigans. It no longer seems to be the case that Harsche Lektion wont be recast on people already targeted by it once. Need at least 2 people for Darkmaster Gandling to cast Harsh Lesson. As long as Darkmaster Gandling is in combat with 2 people he will continually alternate between sending them into the segregated rooms until every room has been opened and youve consequently gathered 50 expired test subjects.
So pull boss and make sure the 2 party members are in combat, afk until Harsh Lesson is no longer being cast and all rooms and open, kill all the expired test subjects.

Kommentar von Brotinn

Like others have stated, this can be done with just 2 people. Initially only I taunted the boss while my guildmate stood near, but it wasn't registering her as being in active combat with him, so he never cast Harsh Lesson. After resetting him with, I taunted him to start, then she taunted off of me and he properly started casting Harsh Lesson.

If you're bringing a class with no taunt ability, you can use Whole-Body Shrinka' BEFORE engaging the boss (it can't be used in combat), which significantly reduces your damage to avoid instantly killing him. It's a very easy toy to obtain. Be aware that it does have a 30 minute cooldown, in case you have to reset for any reason.

Kommentar von Behle

We just did this two people, the day before 9.1 :)

Kommentar von mill5034

This achievement CAN be soloed effective 9.2. It does require 2 high level characters, but those characters can be on the same account.

SETUP:

First, get the 2 characters you plan on using in a group together. To do this, list a group with toon 1 under your premade groups (Dungeon Finder menu). Log out, then log into toon 2. Go to the same menu and find the group you just listed and apply to join. Log into toon 1, go the group finder menu to send an invite. Lot into toon 2 and accept the invite. Toon 1 and Toon 2 should now be in the same group.

Next step is to set the dungeon to heroic and make your way there. Clear the dungeon up to the last boss and get both toons to the bottom of the stairs. If your level 60, I recommend being naked.

Finally, open up another instance of World of Warcraft. You are going to be alt tabbing between the 2 instances/toons throughout the fight. You should be ready.

TACTIC

Aggro the boss with toon 1, switch instances, and log into toon 2. This will log toon 1 off, but you will notice he will still be there getting hit by the boss. With toon 2, punch the boss ONCE. This shouldn't kill him. The boss will start the cast to teach someone a lesson (it's random). The cast will port one of your toons to a separate room with adds and a locked door. DO NOT KILL THE ADDS Instead, just wait patiently for when the other toon is ported. The door will open up and you can run to the middle of the room. Just keep going back and forth running to the middle of the room by logging into your other instance of WoW as the boss takes turns porting toons to different rooms. Eventually, after 6-7 casts he will stop porting toons. At that point, gather up all the adds in one spot in the middle AWAY from the boss and AOE them down. Achievement should pop. It is not necessary to kill the boss for it to pop.

Here is the video I watched to help me prepare for the encounter. Good luck!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cmcjZCsyW8

Kommentar von Pouned

I have no idea how you do this.

Been there today, 15 november 2022, with a full 5 people group.

As tank, did a taunt on the boss. And we waited in the room.

The boss, after several minutes, NEVER casts that spell. No one gets teleported anywhere.

After 5 minutes, no spell cast, no teleportation, nothing. The boss kept using his attacks on the tank.

And nothing else did happen.

Kommentar von Toxicus

Just finished this today on a Warrior & Hunter. No Taunt Required. No Naked Toons Required. Put your Pets away.

Steps
1 - Create Group with 2 Characters on the Same account (Use a friend or LFG tool) & Bring them both to the Instance while on Heroic.
2 - Bring both characters to the Boss Gate. Make sure they are both inside of the gate.
3 - Engage Boss. Alt + F4 Immediately
4 - Relaunch & Login to 2nd Character
5 - If Imprisoned, run to Gate and Alt + F4 again. If NOT, Aggro Boss by running on top of him, then Alt + F4
Repeat steps 4 & 5 Until all gates are opened
6 - Make sure that EVERY Test Subject has left its room and is surrounding you.
7 - AOE = Win! ACHIEVEMENT EARNED!

Kommentar von Khatun

Friendly reminder it isn't "solo" if you need 2 characters

Edit: You can downvote me all you like, but it doesn't make me less correct

Kommentar von irabbs

has anyone noticed an issue where if he melee hits you he just dies? I tried this last week and stood around waiting for him to cast the spell, he hit me with his stick and suddenly the fight was over. I don't have any thorns gear and am unaware of any ability that does thorns damage.

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