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Kommentar von Emsarrev

"Pristine" versions of all artifacts? If I were to hazard a guess, I'd say they're changing archaeology so that the normal ("grey trash") artifacts have a chance to be pristine. This might keep the long grind towards your epic of choice a bit more interesting. Combined with the new collector achievements to obtain 5/20 of each grey artifact, I think this a nice move forwards into keeping archaeology interesting for a longer period of time without becoming utterly eye-bleeding boring.

Kommentar von 583718

"Pristine" seems to mean the quest item version, which are displayable in the Seat of Knowledge.
It's also worth noting that they random finds whilst discovering, so there doesn't seem any way to discern if the discovery will be "Pristine" beforehand.

Kommentar von sandyra

The location 'The Seat of Knowledge' for all hand-ins to Lehrensucher Cho is above the Mogu'shanpalast in the Das Tal der Ewigen Blüten and can only be accessed with flying.

The achievement Das Heim des Wissens requires you to have completed one of each of all the 'Pristine' artifacts for both the Mogu and Pandaren races. These must be restored and displayed (therefore the quest must be handed in) at 'The Seat of Knowledge' where you will find Lehrensucher Cho and Die Lehrensucher in the Das Tal der Ewigen Blüten. There are ten to complete for each race, giving a total of twenty.

It's also worth noting that while you can accept these 'Pristine' quests at level 85 (as soon as you get the quest item), you physically cannot reach 'The Seat of Knowledge' itself until you're 90 or unless you get a level 90 friend with a two-person flying mount to taxi you up there. You'll already know this, if you've managed to leg it into the zone (like me) and stood mere inches away from the hand in, with no ability to actually get to it. Lock summons can also do the trick here (this is also the part where we lament the good old days of mass summoning). Otherwise, be patient and wait till you're big and bad enough to do it yourself! It has been mentioned that there is also a means to get there by talking to Mishi the red serpent at the Shrine of Seven Stars, and apparently this can be done prior to level 90, though just as many mentions have been made regarding Mishi not giving toons a ride.

The following is a list of all 'Pristine' Pandaren artifacts required for this achievement:

Makellose Medizindöschen which gives you Makellose Medizindöschen
Makelloser verzierter Bronzespiegel which gives you Makelloser verzierter Bronzespiegel
Makelloses leeres Fässchen which gives you Makelloses leeres Fässchen
Makelloses Brettspiel which gives you Makelloses Spielbrett
Makellose Figurine mit Goldintarsien which gives you Makellose Figurine mit Goldintarsien
Makelloses pandarisches Teeservice which gives you Makelloses pandarisches Teeservice
Makellose Perle von Yu'lon which gives you Makellose Perle von Yu'lon
Makellose Standarte von Niuzao which gives you Makellose Standarte von Niuzao
Makellose Zwillingsbierkrüge which gives you Makellose Zwillingsbierkrüge
Makelloser Gehstock which gives you Makelloser Gehstock

The following is a list of all 'Pristine' Mogu artifacts required for this achievement:

Kommentar von Azurfel

The pristine versions of common artifacts still count for the individual "Collector:" achievements.

Kommentar von Pcheezie

The Seat of Knowledge / Lorewalker Cho can be found at the top of Mogu'shan Palace in Vale of Eternal Blossums at 83.2,29.6.

Kommentar von Fuhque

You actually can get there without flying, as is stated in the first post. Mishi, Lorewalker Cho's dragon is at the bottom of the steps at both horde and alliance shrines and will fly you up to The Seat of Knowledge.

Kommentar von 1033455

btw this has nothing to do with the seat of knowledge but Mishi is a he click on mishi and the response is He looks at you expectantly..... o_0 seems to me Mishi is male....

Kommentar von 1047622

This achievement awards the title <Name>, Seeker of Knowledge despite no part of the achievement saying so.

Kommentar von 1036914

Be ready to spend a lot of time on this one. So far I'm at 16/20 pristine, and it's been 168 solves since my last pristine.

On the bright side I got the vial of the sands recipe from exchanging the restored artifacts.

Kommentar von 718694

I just thought this might help someone who is looking for the QM that sells this flying disc. The QM is to the left of Lorewalker Cho, she is sitting down next to a tiger. Her name is Tan Shin Tiao (Coords: 82.2, 29.3). I thought this might help people who were in my position and trying to find where to get the disc from.

Kommentar von dsnineteen

Has anybody got any information for the droprates on these Pristines?
I'm currently 12 common/1 rare solves for both Mogu and Pandaren and am yet to see any.

Kommentar von Denseje

Just to Inform ppl what they are in too.

Im 18/20 on all - with 17/20 on Pandaren Tea Sets and 18/20 on Pandaren Gamebords, as the only one missing.
But "The Seat of Knowledge" im missing 3 Pristines.
Thunder King Insignia - Collected 27
Edicts of the Thunder King - Collected 25
Monument Ledger - Collected 22

I have made 570 artifacts so far.

Kommentar von Bonkadonk

Im stuck at 19/20 Pristines with the Monument Ledger left. I got about 38-46 Solves on every artifact but only 28 Worn Monument Ledgers. This kinda buggs me out since i have been going for 3 days with only 1 Pristine left... Oh well good luck to you all, its a really nice title :)

Kommentar von Faell

By the time I completed all the 'collect 20 of each artifact' achievements I only had one pristine left. The achievement sets are fairly well balanced with each other. Based on this, I would estimate the pristine versions have about a 5% chance to appear in place of the regular version artifact.

Kommentar von 57944

Just to give people an idea on how much time this achievement requires, it took me 390 Pandaren solves plus 441 Mogu solves to get the last pristine item, for a grand total of 831 solves. Looking at the bright side, you can complete the old archeology artifacts by exchanging the restored MOP artifacts with Brann at the Seat of Knowledge.

Kommentar von 1035981

Seeing people "crying" about 500 solved artifacts makes ME cry tbh. I'm currently on 1570 solved artifacts, solved one mogu artifact 97 times and the last one I'am missing has been solved 67 times. Dunno whats wrong with my RNG or this achievement, gonna delete my character after finishing this achievement.

Kommentar von Evelya

Just got this tonight. Overall i solved 235 mogu artefacts and 208 pandaren artefacts for a total of 443. I'm still missing 6 of the 20 of each acheivements lol.

Kommentar von Donovon

Ok, I'm still a little slow on wondering how to complete this achievement. I have nearly all those soulbound artifacts, but I don't have nor see any quest to make them Pristine to display them. What am I skipping or missing here?

Kommentar von JulesPeace

The Droprate of the Pristines is exactly 10% (I collected the Data of all achievementhunters of our guild and some more, so it's representative), so:

In average you'll need 720 artifacts (without rares) to get this achievement.

But in case you have all except by one, you'll need on average 200 for the last one, but you'll just have it after 598 with a chance of 95% and after 919 with a chance of 99%. (These numbers are the case, if you get on average as much mogu as pandaren artifacts, but in reality you'll get slightly more Mogu, so if you need a mogu artifact your lucky and get it slightly faster, else it will take a bit longer, but the difference won't be more than 15% of the numbers).

Hope this helps your motivation!

EDIT: I've finally got it after 693 solves (394 Mogu and 299 Pandaren) and my last two ones were Mogu, so I was lucky. Good luck my friends, don't give up!

Kommentar von wowZhenek

694 solves it took me to complete. Along with this achivment I completed all the 20 ones. Ah well, all I can say is that I wish you guys luck with not getting pandarian artifact as the last one u need as pristine.

Kommentar von MuriloNZ

Can be a VERY frustrating achieve. I've had all the "Collect 20" for atleast a month, only missing one pristine (Thunder King Insignia). Over 30 solves now, chasing Mogu dig sites with no incentive is wearing on me. Awesome reward title though, hopefully one day.....

Kommentar von Pyrokaros

Finaly got it today, after 310 Pandaren, 443 Mogu and 88 Mantid solves. I mentioned Mantid because they can be done pretty fast- they're really small, and usually close to each other, especially in Townlong Steppes. Also, don't forget to spent restored artifacts to buy Lorewalker's map and reset digsites- go to Mantid digsites only if map is on cd. Even Lodestones might be usefull, but not as often.

Kommentar von odok

I've seen a lot of folks here and elsewhere wondering aloud if their pristines are bugged for a particular artifact. So assuming a 10% drop chance, here's a quick breakdown of the chance you'll receive a pristine based on the number of times you've solved that particular artifact.

Solves = Chance of Pristine

01 = 10.0000% | 11 = 68.6189% | 21 = 89.0581%
02 = 19.0000% | 12 = 71.7570% | 22 = 90.1523%
03 = 27.1000% | 13 = 74.5813% | 23 = 91.1371%
04 = 34.3900% | 14 = 77.1232% | 24 = 92.0234%
05 = 40.9510% | 15 = 79.4109% | 25 = 92.8210%
06 = 46.8559% | 16 = 81.4698% | 26 = 93.5389%
07 = 52.1703% | 17 = 83.3228% | 27 = 94.1850%
08 = 56.9533% | 18 = 84.9905% | 28 = 94.7665%
09 = 61.2580% | 19 = 86.4915% | 29 = 95.2899%
10 = 65.1322% | 20 = 87.8423%

With a >99% chance at 44 solves. Now keep in mind this is a probability - it's by no means any indication of a guarantee. You could go for 70 solves and still not find a pristine, though that's extremely unlikely (0.06% chance. To put that into perspective, it'd be about the same chance as getting a Zügel des Todesstreitrosses on your first kill). This is just a way to show that even if you have your 20-solve collector achievement, there's still only an 87.8% chance you would've obtained the pristine. So you likely aren't bugged and there's no reason to notify Blizzard sans sharing your anguish.

Kommentar von Omnitronx

As of 5.3 there is still no convergence algorithm, the solves/pristines are still random. Got the achieve after a combined ~770 mogu/pandaren solves. The 34th Sandard of Niuzao was a pristine...

Kommentar von Hyperforms

Im currently at 19/20 and have been stuck here for 5 days now, need the pristine for Mogu Runestone. Ive made 49 artifacts of the cracked version, with a total of 516 solves for mogu, 378 for pandaren & 227 for mantid. Ive completed all of the collect 20 achievements and the History of the Mantid achievement. Still grindin and waitin for that last pristine.....

Kommentar von 463474

Made/modified a script to see how many solves you are at.
Open 'Completed Artifacts' tab to refresh before running script.
/run for r=10,12 do
local c,t=GetNumArtifactsByRace(r),0
for i=1,c do local _,_,_,_,_,_,_,_,n=GetArtifactInfoByRace(r,i)
if n>0 then
t=t+n
end
end
print(GetArchaeologyRaceInfo(r)..": "..t)
end
From what I understand, you can expect ~300 Pandaren and Mogu solves to finish 5.1 archy.

Edit:
Finished Mogu at 296 solves

Kommentar von thehavok

I havent seen it mentioned here yet, but is this title account wide? (sure as hell hope it is...)

Kommentar von Paulosio

To complete this achievement (and all other archaeology achievements) it took me:
253 mantid solves
322 pandaren solves
494 mogu solves
Total solves for all Mists of Pandaria archaeology achieves = 1069

The final pristine I needed for this achieve was the Terracotta arm which took 51 solves to show up.

Towards the end when I only needed the pristine Terracotta arm I was only bothering to dig the Mogu sites and when they ran out I used the Lorewalkers map to randomise my digs in the hope of getting more Mogu digs... If I didn't get more Mogu digs i'd just take a break and do something else until the 30 minute cooldown on Lorewalkers map was gone and then i'd try again. It's not the fastest way but it was probably a bit less frustrating.

Truly a painful grind... As bad as any I can remember including Insane in the membrane before they nerfed it.

Kommentar von Lilikoi

There are twenty (20) "pristine versions" of Pandaren and Mogu artifacts that are required for Das Heim des Wissens.
The pristine versions are a random drop from completing each Common quality archeology project of the same name. You can complete each common artifact multiple times, and eventually you'll get a pristine version - the quest item appears in your bags.
There are ten (10) common archeology projects for each branch - 10 Pandaren, and 10 Mogu.
Each of the pristine artifacts can be turned in at The Seat of Knowledge, where all the pristine artifacts that you've completed are put on display.
To keep track of all the items you've turned in, you can go visit The Seat of Knowledge in The Vale of Eternal Blossoms, and stroll around the museum exhibit to view all your completed pristine artifacts, or (lazy bones) open your Achievements panel and view your progress that way, or (because geeks rule) . . .

Since there is a Quest for each pristine artifact, you can use a macro command to check if you've already completed each quest:

* where XXXXX = the quest number for the artifact you want to check on - see table below *
/run print(IsQuestFlaggedCompleted(XXXXX))
A result of 1 means that you have done it already, and "nil" means you haven't completed it yet.

BRANCH	PRISTINE ARTIFACT	QUEST #
Pandaren	Makelloses pandarisches Teeservice	31795 Makelloses pandarisches Teeservice
Makellose Zwillingsbierkrüge	31797 Makellose Zwillingsbierkrüge
Makelloses leeres Fässchen	31799 Makelloses leeres Fässchen
Makellose Figurine mit Goldintarsien	31801 Makellose Figurine mit Goldintarsien
Makellose Perle von Yu'lon	31803 Makellose Perle von Yu'lon
Makelloses Brettspiel	31796 Makelloses Spielbrett
Makelloser Gehstock	31798 Makelloser Gehstock
Makelloser verzierter Bronzespiegel	31800 Makelloser verzierter Bronzespiegel
Makellose Medizindöschen	31802 Makellose Medizindöschen
Makellose Standarte von Niuzao	31804 Makellose Standarte von Niuzao
Mogu	Makellose Fesseln der Rebellion	31786 Makellose Fesseln der Rebellion
Makelloser Arm aus Terrakotta	31788 Makelloser Arm aus Terrakotta
Makelloses Insigne des Donnerkönigs	31790 Makelloses Insigne des Donnerkönigs
Makelloses Eisenamulett	31792 Makelloses Eisenamulett
Makellose Mogumünze	31794 Makellose Mogumünze
Makelloser Runenstein der Mogu	31787 Makelloser Runenstein der Mogu
Makellose versteinerte Peitsche aus Knochen	31789 Makellose versteinerte Peitsche aus Knochen
Makellose Edikte des Donnerkönigs	31791 Makellose Edikte des Donnerkönigs
Makelloses Brandeisen	31793 Makelloses Brandeisen
Makelloses Kassenbuch eines Architekten	31805 Makelloses Kassenbuch eines Architekten

Kommentar von Zyland

Casiv posted a very nice script to check you pandarian races total solve count. Unfortunately macros seem to need to be in a single line to function properly so his script didn't work without a bit of editing.

Have no fear though, I've brought you the edited one line version of the code, copy and pasteable straight into a macro, all credit to Casiv.

/run for r=10,12 do local c,t=GetNumArtifactsByRace(r),0 for i=1,c do local _,_,_,_,_,_,_,_,n=GetArtifactInfoByRace(r,i) if n>0 then t=t+n end end print(GetArchaeologyRaceInfo(r)..": "..t) end

Kommentar von 1143974

19/20 missing Pristine twin stein set...1128 artifacts...still diggin' :(

Kommentar von maely

In my opinion, this is one of the hardest achievements in the game to obtain:
- Mount Parade (took me about 6 months to go from 150 mounts to 200...)
- Insane in the Membrane (took me about 2 months, including the time to create/level a Rogue...)
- Going to Need a Bigger Bag (honestly, I'm not even going to try for this...)
- Seat of Knowledge (let me put it this way, I discovered both the Tol'vir pet/mount via MoP archaeology turn-ins LONG BEFORE I completed this...)

I used to be stuck at 18/20 on this achievement, but I grinded archaeology for like 6 hours today to finish this and earn the title (here's a tip: equip Forager's Gloves). My last two needed for the achieve were the Pristine Thunder King Insignia followed by the Pristine Twin Stein Set. Towards the end, I was skipping the Mantid/Mogu nodes that I didn't need, only solving Pandarens, and refreshing with a Lorewalker's Map every 30 to 45 minutes. Here are my final statistics:

279 Mantid solves
521 Mogu solves -- the Pristine Thunder King Insignia dropped on my 40th try.
476 Pandaren solves -- the Pristine Twin Stein Set dropped on my 46th try.

And here's the macro that I've been using to keep track:

/run print("Total artifacts"); for x=1,12 do local c=GetNumArtifactsByRace(x); local a =0; for y=1,c do local t = select(9, GetArtifactInfoByRace(x, y)); a=a+t;end local rn = GetArchaeologyRaceInfo(x); if( c > 1 ) then print(rn .. ": " .. a); end end

Kommentar von Veerloren

54 pearls of yu'lon so far, still no pristine :(
this is my last one left, slowly losing hope.

Kommentar von CausalXXLinkXx

780 Mogu Solves and 585 Pandaren solves still no Pristine Monument Ledger :(

Kommentar von Rhabdos

So.. yeah

solves:
Mantid:142
Pandaren: 285
Mogu: 345

Got the mogu done last week, after that, the RNG was against me. Mogu digsites all the time, usually 3/4 at any given moment. I used the Lorewalker map to randomize them.. and got 4/4 mogu on two separate occasions. Finally, today I complete my pandaren solves and get to use the Mantid locator. Yes, this makes me very happy.

However, I cannot complete the Meta due to a bug. Here is my communication with a GM describing the issue.

ME:" Rhabdos @ Turalyon

I am trying to get this achieve / title. The item is displayed in the seat of knowlege and will not proc as a discovery / completed artifact a second time. I need this to get my title and complete the acheive. I can mouse over the item and inspect it. It clearly states that it was donated by Rhabdos. "

3 days later I get my response.

"Hey there Rhabdos,

Game Master Havfstach here and I just finished reading your ticket about the achievement 'The Seat of Knowledge' possibly not working correctly.

I can certainly understand how frustrating this would be if I was in your place. Having ran into issue with a similar achievement in the past, I know how ya feel.

Well, in my research I discovered some good news, the World of Warcraft Development team and Quality Assurance Team are actually already aware of the issue you’re experiencing.

Now, I’ve added your details to the other examples provided so for, so that gives them another potential piece of the puzzle to solve the problem and we very much appreciate you for that.

Now comes the hard part. We really do appreciate the information provided, but these things take time to fix. When they will be fixed, is not up to us, and currently this is an issue that we haven’t been given permission to correct at this time. While I understand this isn’t the answer you wanted to hear, I very much appreciate your patience while it’s being resolved.

If you need anything else, please don't hesitate to reopen the ticket, and or feel free to visit our Support page at (http://us.battle.net/support/). Thanks for playing and have an awesome time playing! =) "

I have the item displayed and NO achieve / title. how disheartening after so much farming.
Happy digging.

Kommentar von 853382

just finished mogu at 359 solves, still need 1 more for pandaren at 265+ solves, the struggle is real

Kommentar von Jhelrok

Just finished this last night after 3 straight days of doing nothing but grinding, and boy was it a ride! lol. Solves for the two races, 338 mogu, 278 pandaren for a grand total of 616 solves. This was probably one of the most toughest grinds i have ever done so far and the title was well worth it. To anyone still stuck on that last pristine, keep your head up and press on because when it pops you'll be the happiest person in the world :)

Kommentar von ModKnight

Oh boy. I decided to undertake this one about a week ago. I think I may have made a mistake, but I'm too far in to back out now. After reading through all of these comments (repeatedly) I'm beginning to think my luck is below average. I just hit 550 Pandaria solves and I'm still only 17/20. I have all of the Mogu/Pandaren 'Collect 20' achieves, and still missing 3 (of which all have 25+ solves). I'm hoping to finish this achievement within the next 2 days. I spent roughly 9 hours grinding it today, achieving 190 solves which resulted in 1 pristine find (leaving me with 3). I plan to spend another 8-10 hours on this tomorrow.

I'm preparing myself mentally to be ready to solve until around 1000 total solves, which seems to be the finishing line for those with below average luck. I average 20-25 solves per hour, which means that for someone with average luck you are looking at 30-35 hours for this achievement and someone with below average you are looking at 45-50 hours. Someone with very bad luck may spend 100+ hours or simply never get this achievement (which is, sadly, possible... however minute a chance.) Although you may be very lucky and finish within 20-25 hours, which I've seen reported on various forum posts.... Such reports make me frustrated as someone only at 17/20 and roughly 25 hours already logged.

Kommentar von Hrobertgar

I just wanted to reinforce that I believe recent Patches have made it so that if someone has the 'Make 20 of...' Achievement then their solve is automatically Pristine unless they already have it.

I have been grinding this for the past ~ 2months in my spare time and I got pristines as the 20th solve about 5 times - enough that it is very unlikely to be a statistical anomaly. For those that suffered back when it was apparently possible to go 40 solves - ouch I feel for you.

Alas, the RNG an what item gets solved is still in full force. When I had all other 19 pristines and 20s, with onlu Tea Sets remaining at 16 it took me 110 total solves (including Mantid) to get those 4 Tea Sets, not too bad actually but it felt horrible.

Here are my final solves to get this achievement so you can get a feel for it.

Panda:
Spear of Xuen: 1 (Rare)
Umbrella of Chi Ji: 1 (Rare)
Walking Crane: 32
Game Board: 28
Twin Stein: 33
Apothecary Tin: 25
Tea Sets: 20
Stadard of Niuzao: 25
Gold Inlaid: 33
Pearl of Yulon: 36 (@ 60 each, ouwie)
Bronze Mirror: 27
Empty Keg: 24
260 Total Panda Solves

Mogu:
Anatomical Dummy: 1 (Rare)
Quillen Statuette: 1 (Rare)
Branding Iron: 34
Manacles: 33
Edicts of T.K.: 37
Terracotta Arm: 30
Ledger: 35
Iron Amulet: 37
Petrified Whip: 34
Mogu Coin: 27
T.K. Insignia: 28
Cracked Runestone: 34
297 Total Mogu Solves
- Note the Mogu total includes doing the 20 Mogu piece turn ins and saving 35 Mogu statue pieces (20 piece bonus items) after I had completed all Mogu Solves, so it could have been 330 or so I had I pursued as many as possible.

I do not see why people would downvote without replying. I did specify that I believe my experience of getting SEVERAL pristine on a 20th solve was the result of a patch change implemented after Mantid Archaeology became available.

I used the Mantid Stone to farm the last few Mantid I needed and this did NOT prove to be the case for them. It took me 28 solves to get my Pristine banner.

Kommentar von 626326

I am convinced that they have this achievement rigged. Once you only have one more pristine artifact to solve, it becomes incredibly difficult to find the digsites that you need and very rare for the artifact you need to come up. Just look at all the people here saying they've been stuck on the last solve for a very long time. I am currently experiencing this, myself.

Either it is, in fact, rigged, or I'm just going crazy and I really have no idea what I'm talking about.

Kommentar von Archijslv

After three Years of lurking wowhead, I had to log in to comment on this achievment. I am at 20k achi points, and at this point, this is by far the ^&*!tiest grind I have ever encountered in WoW.

It took me 353 Mantid, 468 Pandaren and 888 Mogu solves, so 1709 Solves in Total. I have a total of 1053 Restored Artifacts in Bags, and I have used another 200 on Lorewalkers Maps.
http://i.imgur.com/NrwwLpN.png

The hunt for the last Pristine took around 400 Mogu Solves...So fellow Achi hunters, good luck. You will need it.

Kommentar von Salewow

i have 199 mantid solves,290 pandaren and 360 mogu.Still missing 4 pristines.
i have completed one of those four 30 times,26, 23 and 23.
Blizzard should add that you can purchase MoP fragments with restored artifacts.I have now 270 restored artifacts and i got all pets and mounts so nothing smart to spend on my restored artifacts.

Kommentar von Ratsel

Adding my stats to give an impression of the scope and commitment required of this achievement.

Complete
217 Pandaren
288 Mogu
67 Mantid
(626 total)

I had a total of 514 when I was down to my last artifact (damn you, Pearl of Yulon!), so that's over 100 solves just for the last one. The last stretch is the longest, but hang in there. Use Lorewalker's Maps on cooldown and avoid Mantid digsites unless you're working on that achievement as well. I think I managed to listen to every episode on www.radiolab.org while working on this maintain sanity.

Kommentar von MrSml

Thought I would give some tips on items/gear/addons you can use while farming for archaeology achievements and/or Tol'vir rares.

I finally got the last pristine for Geschichte der Mantis which took 30 solves of Ancient Sap Feeder. Number of solves all together for both Geschichte der Mantis and Das Heim des Wissens:

Pandaren: 289
Mogu: 254
Mantid: 349

I consider myself pretty lucky with these numbers, especially with Pandaren and Mogu, even though I almost performed some random executions on things (like my ever so smiling, quirky Mickey Mouse telephone) in my home while doing this.
While farming archaeology I would highly recommend using:

Sammlerhandschuhe - practically a must have if you don't want to end up having a mental breakdown by for example screaming at a picture of your grandmother blaming her for not preparing you mentally for this endeavor.
Archy – an excellent add-on also helping the prevention of prematurely committing suicide.
TomTom – works great with Archy by providing waypoints and valuable directions to take in life (and maybe WoW too).
Gatherer – helps by marking your minimap where fragments and orgasmic origins (yeah… don’t ask) have previously been found.

I also found that some other items/gear could provide usefulness in this undertaking:

Krabblerpanzer – great for avoiding encounters that can disturb your Tantra moment seeking.
~~Windfeder – increases mount speed by 30% for 1 hour.~~ Only works for ground mount ergo irrelevant.
Goldenes Vlies – gives a chance to get some extra gold when killing mobs (didn’t work when I killed the plant next to me though).

Using Leitstein des Lehrensuchers on cooldown is also recommended of course and Karte des Lehrensuchers as well.
While farming for these achievements I traded in restored artifacts for Tol’vir fragments and that got me both Szepter von Azj'Aqir and Eiskaltes Händchen. I listened to the trance channel on www.di.fm during this too and that website is recommended for anyone who listens to electronic music. I hope my input helps someone in soothing the mental trial this surely is.

Kommentar von Silversage05

I finally got my last pristine! My stats:

Mogu: 254
Pandaren: 698
Mantid: 226

Total: 1178

Getting the last pristine was around 300 solves.

Not sure which was more annoying. Farming this or the 214 Tol'vir solves to get Szepter von Azj'Aqir.

Absolutely no more archaeology until next expansion.

Kommentar von KiwiSocks

I'm pretty sure I've figured this out, with what looks like the record least amount.

Got this today with
Mantid solves: 107 (6/8 pristine)
Pandaren solves: 182
Mogu solves: 180

Main point: After my first first four pristines, I realized that they had only been created with full key stone slots. So I set about not using key stones for ones I already had, and not solving ones I didn't have until I got one to use (Too cheap to buy off the AH) and they were at 40/40 (or whatever number of fragments was needed). Also of note, I never got the Collectors Edition: 20 before the pristine.

The last two pristines were pandaren, and I stopped solving any mogu to make sure I wouldn't forget the number, blacklisted all mogu sites on Archy, and reset with the Lorewalkers map when all four of my sites were mogu.

When I was at 17/20, I also noticed that I flat out stopped getting the ones that I had both the Collectors Edition: 20 and pristine versions of, so that was helpful with the RNG aspect of solving the ones I still needed.

Kommentar von rahire9

To anyone trying this or wanting to try this. I just wanted to add that it has taken me the following to solve this:
575 Pandaren solves
475 Mogu solves
Total: 1050 solves exactly
I had 19/20 Pandaren and walking cane left.
It took me 173 solves to get my last Pandaren.

Pray to WoW gods that you get a mogu as your last one.

Good luck and don't give up!

Kommentar von Furydeath

Done with Mogu but still have 3 pandaren to go and it's going to suck i can already tell -.-
Count so far:
Mogu: 175
Pandaren: 162
Mantid: 94

Edit: Finaly got my mirror.

Final count:
Mogu: 207
Pandaren: 265
Mantid: 150

Kommentar von manuli

Just finished this achievement, my final solves were:
Mantid: 104 (with 6/8 pristines of the mantids)
Pandaren: 299
Mogu: 286

Total: 689 solved artifacts

I got the pristine one on my 25th Standard of Niuzao-solve.
When I completed 'collect 20 of each'-achievements I was only missing one pandaren pristine. I recommend buying Pandaren pottery shards and using lots of Lorewalker's Maps to avoid collecting Mogu digsites if your last pristine is a pandaren one, for the sake of your sanity.

Kommentar von tequilaloverz

This is by far the most time consuming achievment i have ever encountered.

Pandaren : 559

Mogu : 677

These are the numbers i needed to finish the achievment. The last 1 was Standart of Niuzao and i needed around 147 pandaren solves for the last one. The best way to do this achievment without frustration is to blacklist all mogu and mantid digsites and using Lorewalker's Map on cooldown.

I hope the best of luck for the farmer's out there! Hang on to it and you will get it soon :)

Kommentar von Velariana

Just completed this tonight, so here's my two copper:

Pandaren: 188
Mogu: 251
Mantid: 70

Total of 509 solves. After reading the comments, I consider myself lucky. Before I actually set out to get this achievement, I had three pristines and my last one was the Mogu Runestone, which took 25 solves to get. All other pristines I managed to get before getting the 'collect 20 of each artifact' achievement.

Good luck to all still farming this. Don't give up - that last pristine will come eventually!

Kommentar von realskylol

Pandaren : 304
Mogu : 352
---------------------------
= 656

I'm considering myself as quite lucky. :-D

Kommentar von Nightgecko

Figure I'll throw my horrid statistics into the mix.

Last pristine needed: Mogu Coin

Solves so far on Mogu Coin: 58 (8/2/14)

Total Pandaren Solves: 467
Total Mogu Solves: 762
Total Overall: 1229

Here is to hoping that one day I finish this achievement...and that they don't put a new one in.

Edit: YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES FINALLY!

11/11/14 IT IS FINISHED!

Final Count:
Total Mantid Solves: 286
Total Pandaren Solves: 501
Total Mogu Solves: 868
Total Overall: 1655

Final Mogu Coin Count: 68 (Some Mogu solves are over 90 btw)

Kommentar von tidus93

Finished mine today, took: 212 mantid, 361 pandaren and 397 mogu.
I recomend using the Archy addon, when you only have pandaren left it tells you which sites are pandaren.

Kommentar von St3f

Cracked Mogu Runestone: 39 * 50;
Mogu Coin: 40 * 30;
Thunder King Insignia: 42 * 50;
Petrified Bone Whip: 41 * 50;
Iron Amulet: 41 * 50;
Manacles of Rebellion: 39 * 50;
Terracotta Arm: 40 * 50;
Warlord's Branding Iron: 39 * 50;
Worn Monument Ledger: 29 * 40;
Edicts of the Thunder King: 38 * 60;

Mogu Fragments:
1950 + 1200 + 2100 + 2050 + 2050 + 1950 + 2000 + 1950 + 1160 + 2280 = 18690;

Pandaren Game Board: 28 * 40;
Walking Cane: 25 * 50;
Pearl of Yu'lon: 32 * 60;
Pandaren Tea Set: 36 * 50;
Standard of Niuzao: 23 * 50;
Twin Stein Set: 32 * 50;
Apothecary Tins: 25 * 50;
Empty Keg: 31 * 50;
Gold-Inlaid Figurine: 26 * 50;
Carved Bronze Mirror: 20 * 50;

Pandaren Fragemnts:
1120 + 1250 + 1920 + 1800 + 1150 + 1600 + 1250 + 1550 + 1300 + 1000 = 13940;

Kypari Sap Container: 42 * 50;
Mantid Lamp: 37 * 50;
Remains of a Paragon: 31 * 50;
The Praying Mantid: 37 * 50;
Ancient Sap Feeder: 28 * 50;
Banner of the Mantid Empire: 30 * 50;
Inert Sound Beacon: 38 * 50;
Pollen Collector: 48 * 50;

Mantid Fragments:
2100 + 1850 + 1550 + 1850 + 1400 + 1500 + 1900 + 2400 = 14550;

This makes a total of 47180 Fragments in Pandaria for me.
With the +20 greens for all races you should deduct about 10k from the overall fragment count. Still to get about 30-35k fragments through survey took me some time.

Kommentar von Nordri

248 Pandaren
425 Mogu
673 Total

To finish this achievement I needed to complete my last pristine artifact "manacles of rebellion" on 39th attempt. Upon reading all other comments I guess my luck was around average, but I was seriously starting to lose hope after continuous grinds for days at the end for the last one. Other pristine artifacts didn't take over 20 attempts so there's definitely something going on with achievement being "rigged" for that last pristine artifact.

I bought lorewalker maps after finishing all the other archaeology achievements to speed up the grind and they helped quite a bit.

Kommentar von cimetia

I'm now at
307 Mantid
490 Mogu
726 Pandaren

= 1523

MIssing the Walking Cane, solved it 67 times without a pristine one.
Feel like im going insane..

Kommentar von SinistralJay

Just thought I'd add my numbers to the mix.
Mantid: 135
Pandaren: 239
Mogu: 241
Last pristine: Pandaren Tea Set on 25th solve.

After I solved the last pristine Mogu (Iron Amulet), the tea set was my last one. I exclusively dug Pandaren sites using the map to shuffle when there were none. After 35 more projects (of which 4 were common tea sets), I have the title and consider myself VERY lucky. Now for the last 2 Mantid.

Kommentar von Armak

Fun Fact:
We discussed this achievement on Teamspeak and wondered how lucky you have to be to complete it by restoring only 20 artifacts. The first pristine artifact is at 10% (20/20*1/10*100). The second is at 9.5% (19/20*1/10*100), the last one at 0.5% (1/20*1/10*100). All these twenty chances together is 2.32*10^-26% = 0.0000000000000000000000000232% (*). Every human being in the world statistically has to do this achievement 615,763,546,800,000,000 times (about 616 quadrillion) to let us see it completed with only 20 restorations.
Assuming the number of human beings cannot go up significantly any more without colonizing space, this would take mankind 19,525,733,980 years if you set an achievement try to 1 second (!). To do this in a reasonable time, let's say 75 years, you would need 216,417 tries per second from every human being in the world. Wow, what an achievement. Of course, it is not sure that you see it completed then, we are only talking about the average time and tries here. To be 99% sure that you see it, it would take even more tries.

Enough now.

(*) The chance of having all artifacts restored except one Mogu and no Mogu dig site is available was not taken into account. Excluding rares.

My experiences with this achievement
I am going to write down some personal statistics of me doing all Pandarian archaeology achievements to show that you cannot count on being lucky here in hope to get this done quickly.
Before starting this achievement and all the others I already had solved few Pandaren and Mogu artifacts before Blizzard patched Mantid in the game, about 10 to 20 of each race.
I did not track the time I spent completing the achievements but expect it to take several days (10+) with heavy farming (5+ hours). It also has, as you can read on this site, a chance to go insane by needing 1500+ artifacts to restore.

Even if it looks as everything is almost completed, in reality nothing is.

Apparently completed state I:
I had all pristine Mantid and Mogu artifacts and all pristine Pandaren artifacts except one. I did not use any special artifact items yet (like Karte des Lehrensuchers).

Mantid: 136
Pandaren: 211
Mogu: 223
_________________
Total: 570

At this state, there were missing:

Pandaren: Two collect-20 achievements
19/20
19/20

Mogu: One collect-20 achievements
19/20

Mantid: Five collect-20-achievements
7/20
16/20
16/20
16/20
17/20

Apparently completed state II:
After more digging, I completed all of the Mogu collection achievements and started to shuffle the dig sites as often as possible to get rid of the Mogu dig sites.

Mantid: 156
Pandaren: 279
Mogu: 260
_________________
Total: 695

Missing:

Mantid: Four collect-20-achievements
8/20
17/20
17/20
18/20

and still the pristine Pandaren artifact, which was at 26 restorations. Keep in mind: To get it, there needs to be a Pandaren dig site up, your project has to be the missing artifact AND it has to be a pristine one. Even after 125 more restorations compared to State I, the Mantid-collect-20 achievement which was 7/20 only went up to 8/20. But this will change by using Karte des Lehrensuchers soon.

Completed!
After I got my last pristine artifact at 31 restorations I started using Sonar für Mantisartefakte because of the last missing Mantid achievement which was at 10/20.

Mantid: 238
Pandaren: 300
Mogu: 291
_________________
Total: 829

The macro I used to check my number of restorations:

/run local g,a,n,c,r=GetArtifactInfoByRace for x=1,12 do r,a,n,c=0,0,GetArchaeologyRaceInfo(x),GetNumArtifactsByRace(x)for y=1,c do a=a+select(9,g(x,y))r=r+select(3,g(x,y))end print(n..': '..c..' (rare: '..r..' solved: '..a..')')end

Kommentar von AngusBeef1

Finally I got his achievement as well with the last piece Makellose Edikte des Donnerkönigs on the 83rd solve.

In total I had:
Mantis 245
Pandaren 335
Mogu 866 (!)

Keep on solving and good luck.

Kommentar von Bighand

Hate blizzard for this

Kommentar von BBrizz

Another idea of how long it takes to obtain this achievement:

I currently have 478 Mantid solves, 388 Pandaren solves, and 506 Mogu solves and I am still missing the Makelloses leeres Fässchen

I am going to continue to strive for this achievement since I am only one away, but more of a cautionary here to other archaeology grinders out there, this one does take a bit of time from my experience.

Also for those wondering how I have totaled up my archaeology finds (without counting all of them up in your completion log) use this script:

/run print("Total artifacts"); for x=1,12 do local c=GetNumArtifactsByRace(x); local a =0; for y=1,c do local t = select(9, GetArtifactInfoByRace(x, y)); a=a+t;end local rn = GetArchaeologyRaceInfo(x); if( c > 1 ) then print(rn .. ": " .. a); end end

Best of luck to all!

Kommentar von aenagay

Finally completed the achievement today. It took for me:

420 Mogu solves:

1x ----- Quilen Statuette
1x ----- Anatomical Dummy
40x --- Edicts of the Thunder King
39x --- Petrified Bone Whip
41x --- Cracked Mogu Runestone
35x --- Warlord's Branding Iron
48x --- Mogu Coin
34x --- Manacles of Rebellion
44x --- Worn Monument Ledger
47x --- Terracotta Arm
50x --- Iron Amulet
40x --- Thunder King Insignia

354 Pandaren solves:

1x ----- Umbrella of Chi-Ji
1x ----- Spear of Xuen
39x --- Carved Bronze Mirror
39x --- Gold-Inlaid Porcelain Funerary Figurine
35x --- Standard of Niuzao
31x --- Apothecary Tins
32x --- Walking Cane of Brewfather Ren Yun
39x --- Empty Keg of Brewfather Xin Wo Yin
35x --- Twin Stein Set of Brewfather Quan Tou Kuo
34x --- Pearl of Yu'lon
32x --- Pandaren Game Board
36x --- Pandaren Tea Set

166 Mantid solves:

1x ----- Mantid Sky Reaver
1x ----- Sonic Pulse Generator
12x --- The Praying Mantid
22x --- Pollen Collector
20x --- Mantid Lamp
25x --- Inert Sound Beacon
24x --- Remains of a Paragon
20x --- Banner of the Mantid Empire
25x --- Ancient Sap Feeder
16x --- Kypari Sap Container

Total for all 3 races: 940 solves

My last solve was the Pandaren Game Board.

Kommentar von efbee

Does anyone know if you can pop a quest pristine from turning artifact boxes in warspear (or ally city) and using those pieces to complete? I completed about 120 artifact boxes worth of pandaren and mogu fragments and didnt get any pristine. But, I only have two pristine to go. So I realize my chances were low to begin with. I just wonder if it can be done.

thanks

Kommentar von Superju

Making a comment for the first time in a very long time to chime in on mine.

It took me:
301 Mantid
530 Pandaren
404 Mogu
for a total of 1235 solves.

My last solve was the Pandaren Tea Set which came on the 57th solve.
I was 18/20 around my 500th solve, so it took more than 700 solves just for the last two.

For those doing it now, if you don't have the Tol'Vir mount/Zin'Rokh/Sirocco yet and want to do this alongside as well and exchange solves for Tol'Vir fragments, I fully recommend doing so.

Now you can exchange fragments for pandaria fragments, but honestly they only made me more disheartened.

It depends on your server but the stock for Mogu and Pandaren keystones on mine are scarce and rarely are stocked on the AH, making it even longer.

It took me hundreds of hours and if given the choice, I'm not sure I would do it again. The title is nice though!

Best of luck to those who are seeking this.

Kommentar von 1453300

I just got this achievement after farming it on and off since MoP launched. My last one was Apothecary Tins.
Solve count below:

Mantid
211 common
2 rare

Pandaren
306 common
2 rare

Mogu
348 common
2 rare

Total = 871 solves

Got the Tol'vir mount along the way, no sign of Crawling Claw yet though!

Now to start on the WoD pristine achieves..

Kommentar von Smokeddhany

Mantid 358
Pandaren 315
Mogu 364

I had Twin Stein set left and I farmed for 24 hours for that particular pristine on the time span of 2 days. But on the 3rd day I got it on my first solve :-)

Kommentar von calgarymarc

Completed:

Mantid: 229
Pandaren: 299
Mogu: 418

Total: 946 solves

Kommentar von Qybern

Got down to 1 pristine remaining for each race and then started focusing pandaren (fewest digsites) > mogu (most digsites) > mantid (beacon).

Just finished pandaren, got Pristine Apothecary Tins on my 235th solve. Mogu is at 254 (Mogu coin remaining) and Mantid is at 240 (Remains of a paragon remaining). Will post my final tally when I get the last 2.

Edit:
Just got my last Mogu piece (mogu coin)
Mogu: 278
Pandaren: 243 (one collector achieve left)
Mantid: 251

Edit: 6 days later, finally done with Mantid. Got a few mogu solves in the process due to the little sha-lings that pop up. Final numbers:
Mogu: 288
Pandaren: 254
Mantid: 408
Total: 950

The last mantid piece I needed was the Remains of a Paragon. I got it on my 50th solve of that piece (at which point 99.48% of people would have already gotten their pristine). In the process of completing these two achievements I got 31 Dwarf Solves (which got me all the rares except the staff), and 149 Tol'vir solves (All rares except the mount and the staff).

Kommentar von bahaled

Now in Warlords anyone regardless of flying status can get to Seat of Knowledge by using Avianas Feder

Kommentar von yzq85

This achievement will test your tolerance of the RNG. Not only do you need the RNG to roll you the archaeology project you need, the RNG has to roll a second time to see if your solve will get you the pristine version.

Personally, I have only 1 artifact so far which I did not get the pristine version for within the first 20 solves (Thunder King's Insignia). Currently missing the pristine versions of that and Remains of a Paragon (mantid), ~~and Pearl of Yulon (pandaren)~~ to complete the collection.

Keep calm and continue digging.

Kommentar von Niixten

392 total solves in pandaren and 32 solves on the empty keg. Still haven't got "Pristine Empty Keg" so frustrating!

Kommentar von Omnifarious87

Just got this achievement yesterday, was a lengthy grind but not too bad. After reaching 18 pristine solves I had 2 pandaren pristine so left (pandaren tea set and carved bronze mirror) the later I had only seen 14 in my total grind. Anyway got very lucky and within 60 solves obtained the pristine tea set and the very next dig site got the pristine carved bronze mirror. Was very happy after the completion of this, especially in the light that most people try 100's of times on their last artifact. Don't give up this achievement is obtainable and the title is awesome and definitely rare.

Kommentar von colarama

Anyone that has tried for this knows what grinding for an awful terribly-thought-out achievement really means. I've needed one last solve for over a year. I ground my way through all the rest until I was down to the Terracotta Arm Mogu solve and that's where it's stuck.

Mantid: 290
Pandaren: 352
Mogu: 649 and counting.

I have done "the insane" and I have done the wod nemesis quests and they have NOTHING on this achievement. Since is is pure RNG there is no rhyme or reason to getting this done. First you need RNG to bring up your last needed site type. Then you need RNG to bring up the solve you need. And finally, you need RNG to make your artifact pop. As you get closer to the goal everything actually gets slower and more torturous. In my books that doesn't make it an achievement, it makes it a lottery.

Just a really poorly thought out profession.

Kommentar von Sushji

99 carved bronze mirrors on the wall, 99 carved bronze mirrors.
Take one down--that one's not pristine--98 carved bronze mirrors on the wall.

Good luck to anyone attempting this achievement! The last one is always the hardest :l

On a side note: Save your Restauriertes Artefakt and take them to the archaeology vendor in Ashran. (Srikka Horde, Grakis Alliance). They will let you exchange them for Pandaria archaeology fragments if your skill is at 700. This is very useful and allows you to try and get the pristines you need without the digging. :)

Kommentar von kaynen

Yeah this achievement is really not worth a title. A lot of proff achievements in Arch can take months for 5 or just 10 points.

Ive been sitting on my last pristine for about year and 1/2 now. I do about 3 hours of arcing in panda-land daily or every other day depending on my schedule. It bites since you want it since your so close.

Getting the other pristines were so fast and then it just stalls.

Same with Tol'vir arc. took 400+ findings just to get 2 rares out of the 7 I believe or 9<<bout 3 years worth. Not 100% how many off the top of my head.

Now Im going through the same with draenor. Just need 2 more to finish that ach. for the past 10 months so far.
Really not worth the time once you get the mount or rares you wanted.

They should fix the achievement points or give something worth while to waste all those hours grinding. I can grind low levels in winterspring for that time and make 1000% more profit grinding. Arcing could be so much more fun grinding but they dropped the ball on it.<<my opinion.

Kommentar von Treekachu

I've been feeling hopeless about this achievement, wondering why I'm getting so royally screwed by RNG. Coming to this entry gives me a sort of sick sense of solace that I'm not the only one.

Kommentar von jameroz

Took me 240 pandaren solves and 200 mogu solves to get this. Still missing bunch of collector achies from both so hunt continues.

Kommentar von Alelurien

Finally, after 374 mogu and 255 pandaren researches, I got this one!

Totally worth it, this title is awesome!

Kommentar von Roddox

Since anyone working on archaeology to solve Draenorkurator knows this achievement was designed by Satan, do yourself a favor and get a lv3 Mage tower and the addons archaeology helper and gathermate2. The Mage tower is a huge time save and I wish I built it long before I had nearly completed this achievement. I picked Nagrand, Frostfire and Spires waygates. Gorgrond and SmV arent needed if you're alliance and the Molemachine is right outside the garrison. Gathermate2 is awesome as it marks the fragments you locate with a little circle on your screen. These circles only appear when you're inside a digsite letting you guess the correct spot super fast, removing 90% of the zeroing time you wasted previously.

Ive personally decided to stack up at least 600 restored artifact crates while i work on my last 4 pristine solves aswell - 3 draenor clans and 1 arakkoa. Once legion hits in 3 months the WoD frags become available to buy, same as last expansion, and im just gona buy the frags to save time.

Kommentar von ZeeAUS

This has got to be the most painful frustrating thing in wow. It flies in the face of Blizzard talking about things being "fun" - this is so not fun.
They need to build in RNG protection that increases the chance of a Pristine Artifact the more you solve it.

But being the OCD achievement junkie that I am I keep grinding away.

I've needed a Pristine Edicts of the Thunder King since forever (Well since October 2012 when I solved my first one). So I took the 407 Restored Artifacts that I had to Srikka and purchased Crate of Mogu Archaeology Fragments at around 10 at a time.

Before I started I had already solved Edicts of the Thunder King 37 times.

I blew through my 400 crates and saw the Edicts 8 more times... and still did not get a Pristine one.

So my tally to date (and still not completed) for others still grinding through this during the lack of content as we wait for legion is

348 Pandaren solves (as you need these for the achievement too, but I now have all the pristines needed)

Cracked Mogu Runestone - 30
Terracotta Arm - 42
Thunder King Insignia - 40
Edicts of the Thunder King - 45 (and still waiting for the pristine)
Worn Monument Ledger - 48
Mogu Coin - 35
Iron Amulet - 40
Petrified Bone Whip - 31
Warlord's Branding Iron - 42
Manacles of Rebellion - 43
and the two Rares (Quillen Statuette and Anatomical Dummy)

for a total of 398 solves... and still counting

But this will have to wait until I collect more crates - which won't be until Legion as I'm over Archaeology for the foreseeable future.

To make matters worse, I haven't completed Draenor Curator either - still need 4 pristines but these will also wait for Legion.

Good luck to those still going.

Kommentar von BoroTuralyon

still need 2 pristines for achieve (mirror from panda and branding iron from mogu)

completed 335 panda and 355 mogu

i see people on here completing this with 200 about.....i guess rng is not my friend oh well

Kommentar von RPGRaider

I believe the trick is to get the Mantid Artifact Sonic Locater that way you can farm Restored Artifacts faster because you would only need to fly between the Townlong Steppes and the Dread Wastes. If your only working with one artifact category you will always have fast solves.

Kommentar von Taneth

Looking for a nice title to use on my fresh Void Elf mage I stumbled across this one. Turns out I had already unwittingly dug my way through 19/20 of these from digging in MoP to unlock Tol'vir artifacts, and I figured the last one should be quick and easy to unlock. All in all, that final Pristine Pearl of Yu'lon took me over 20 hours to solve...

My strategy at first was to use the Mantid Artifact Sonic Locator to unlock the Mantid achievements/solves I was missing, and to use the Restored Artifacts I received from that to turn in with Dariness the Learned in Dalaran in exchange for Crate of Pandaren Archaeology Fragments. Depending on my luck with the crates, since the number of fragments range from 5 to 9 and you can also receive Keystones from them, I could solve about 1 Pandaren artifact for every 6 Restored Artifacts I turned in.

Once I unlocked all the Mantid achievements, even the Pristine ones, I ditched the Sonic Locator and focused on solving as many Pandaren digsites as I could. It still took many hours after solving the final Collector achievement to finally get the last pristine - it took 37 solves of that specific artifact. Being able to turn in the restored artifacts to Dariness still sped up the process significantly though, that definitely shaved off a couple of hours.

A comment below mentioned using Keystones with every solve of the one you need to increase the chance of a pristine popping, but solving about 15-20 Pearls of Yu'lon that way I can't say that worked for me. In fact, when finally solving the last pristine, I didn't use any Keystones.

Aside from turning in Restored Artifacts for crates of fragments, there are just no shortcuts to this achievement. You're at the complete mercy of the RNG Gods to get the digsites and a chance at the solve you need. Using addons like Archy and Archaeology Helper are helpful for filtering and solving digsites efficiently though.

In the end, these are my stats for totals solved:
Mogu: 384
Pandaren: 455
Mantid: 523
Total: 1362

Hang in there, guys!

Kommentar von corroc

Finally finished the achievement. Totals were:

Mogu 404
Pandaren 253
Mantid 315

I completed this almost completely past 7.0. I think I had one or two pandaren pristines before. My way of doing this was just grinding all the dig sites no matter what race they were until I had atleast one race with all collecters achievements and pristines. I also used restored artifacts on one race. Funny enought, I finished pandaren pristines at 170 solves but had to grind 50 solves to finish the collectors achievements.
After finishing up with pandaren I moved up to mantid dig sites only. Using the item you get from Brann so you get only mantid dig sites. While grinding out Mantid dig sites I was using restored artifacts on mogu fragments so I could do them both same time. I think I finished up Mantid with around 270 solves.
Now comes absolutely the hardest part of the achievements. I was testing if going only Mantid sites would work but I ended up having around 180 fragments in 30min time with restored artifacts compared to around 250 fragments running around doing dig sites and prioritizing Mogu sites everytime they pop up. But still I did around 100 solves before getting my hands on the final pristine and it feels absolutely crushing when you are solving the right artifact and not getting the pristine version over and over again. It was my 37th solve of that artifact to get the pristine.

Since this was done completely post 7.0 I can concur you, the drop rates have not changed.

Kommentar von Szkuub

My count:
Pandaren: 641
Mogu: 648
Mantid: 341

Still missing Pristine Gold-Inlaid Figure...

Kommentar von grumpytroll

Mogu 601
Panderian 308
Mantid 310

Still missing Terracotta Arm 0 for 54. Last Item I need for 104/104 arch achieves.

Kommentar von Gamber

I completed this Achievement today and would like to share some statistical information, so that players who plan to do this have a rough idea of what is required of them.

Number of solves I needed to complete the Achievement:

Mogu: 553
Pandaren: 458
Mantid: 289
Makes a total of 1300 solves.
The last one I was missing during my last 400 solves was the Pristine Pandaren Tea Set, which I had to solve 38 times, before it procced pristine.

I compared my solve numbers with those of players who achieved this before me and it seems that the required number is completely depending on your luck. If you plan to do this, a realistic estimation is 850-1500 solves, at least in my opinion.

Important advice
Listen to audio books, do split screening and stream some series or watch TV while going for this Achievement, to simply prevent going insane.

Kommentar von Roguezs

After 3 expansions or 6 years doing this on and off I've finally got the achievement!
These were my results:

Pandaren
Speer von Xuen - 1 solve - 180 fragments
Schirm von Chi-Ji - 1 solve - 180 fragments
Leeres Fässchen - 46 solves - 2300 fragments
Pandarisches Teeservice - 40 solves - 2000 fragments
Pandarisches Brettspiel - 47 solves - 1880 fragments
Zwillingsbierkrüge - 35 solves - 1750 fragments
Gehstock - 40 solves - 2000 fragments
Verzierter Bronzespiegel - 53 solves - 2650 fragments
Figurine mit Goldintarsien - 41 solves - 2050 fragments
Medizindöschen - 43 solves - 2200 fragments
Perle von Yu'lon - 35 solves - 2100 fragments
Standarte von Niuzao - 34 solves - 1700 fragments
Total solves: 416. Total number of fragments: 20990. Total dig-sites (7 avg. fragments/dig): 500

Mogu
Anatomische Puppe - 1 solve - 180 fragments
Qilenstatuette - 1 solve - 180 fragments
Brandeisen eines Kriegsherren - 30 solves - 1500 fragments
Fesseln der Rebellion - 28 solves - 1400 fragments
Gesprungener Runenstein der Mogu - 36 solves - 1800 fragments
Arm aus Terrakotta - 36 solves - 1800 fragments
Versteinerte Peitsche aus Knochen - 34 solves - 1700 fragments
Insigne des Donnerkönigs - 37 solves - 1850 fragments
Edikte des Donnerkönigs - 39 solves - 2340 fragments
Eisenamulett - 32 solves - 1600 fragments
Mogumünze - 22 solves - 880 fragments
Verschlissenes Kassenbuch eines Architekten - 27 solves - 1350 fragments
Total solves: 323. Total number of fragments: 16580. Total dig-sites (7 avg. fragments/dig): 395

Mantid
Schallimpulsgenerator - 1 solve - 180 fragments
Himmelshäscher der Mantis - 1 solve - 180 fragments
Überreste eines Getreuen - 30 solves - 1500 fragments
Banner des Mantisreiches - 31 solves - 1550 fragments
Uralter Harzspender - 25 solves - 1250 fragments
Die alte Gottesanbeterin - 20 solves - 1000 fragments
Inaktiver Schallsignalgeber - 34 solves - 1700 fragments
Mantislampe - 39 solves - 1950 fragments
Pollensammler - 33 solves - 1650 fragments
Kypariharzbehälter - 30 solves - 1500 fragments
Total solves: 244. Total number of fragments: 12460. Total dig-sites (7 avg. fragments/dig): 297

Assuming a 10% loss in digsites due to Mantis-Bernsplitter, Pandarische Tonscherbe, Bruchstück einer Mogustatue earned from digging and Uralte Heimsuchung we get a total number of digsites:
(500+395+297)*0,9 = 1073

Assuming each digsite takes 4 - 6 minutes (includes flying) the total time I spent on this achievement is:
(1073*4)/60 = 72 h
(1073*6)/60 = 108 h

The last one I was missing during my last 400 solves was the Pristine Pandaren Tea Set, which I had to solve 38 times, before it procced pristine. From Gamber.

Pandarisches Teeservice was the last one to proc pristine for me aswell.

Kommentar von xYusuke23x

For those looking for a macro to show how many solves (for any of the curator achievements):

/run print("Total artifacts"); for x=1,255 do local c=GetNumArtifactsByRace(x); local a =0; for y=1,c do local t = select(10, GetArtifactInfoByRace(x, y)); a=a+t;end local rn = GetArchaeologyRaceInfo(x); if( c > 1 ) then print(rn .. ": " .. a); end end

If you just want the Pandaria solves, change "x=1,255" to "x=9,11"; Battle for Azeroth solves if 1,2; Legion solves is 3,5; Draenor solves is 6,8.

Credit goes to Anaudri from Tanaris-US for the script, which improved the many scripts already circulating by future proofing for later expansions and fixing display errors that occured post 8.0.

Kommentar von Matriax

I just got this achievment after days of torture, the last prestine that was missing was "Thunderking Insignia" that took 66 solves.

637 Mogu solves:

1x ----- Quilen Statuette
1x ----- Anatomical Dummy
46x --- Edicts of the Thunder King
67x --- Petrified Bone Whip
65x --- Cracked Mogu Runestone
67x --- Warlord's Branding Iron
72x --- Mogu Coin
58x --- Manacles of Rebellion
76x --- Worn Monument Ledger
50x --- Terracotta Arm
68x --- Iron Amulet
66x --- Thunder King Insignia

330 Pandaren solves:

1x ----- Umbrella of Chi-Ji
1x ----- Spear of Xuen
30x --- Carved Bronze Mirror
41x --- Gold-Inlaid Porcelain Funerary Figurine
37x --- Standard of Niuzao
31x --- Apothecary Tins
27x --- Walking Cane of Brewfather Ren Yun
29x --- Empty Keg of Brewfather Xin Wo Yin
31x --- Twin Stein Set of Brewfather Quan Tou Kuo
37x --- Pearl of Yu'lon
33x --- Pandaren Game Board
32x --- Pandaren Tea Set

291 Mantid solves:

1x ----- Mantid Sky Reaver
1x ----- Sonic Pulse Generator
39x --- The Praying Mantid
33x --- Pollen Collector
33x --- Mantid Lamp
37x --- Inert Sound Beacon
42x --- Remains of a Paragon
38x --- Banner of the Mantid Empire
28x --- Ancient Sap Feeder
39x --- Kypari Sap Container

Total for all 3 races: 1258 solves

Next I will do Draenor, only missing Wardrums, 28 solves on that already, with 21 different things to solve. That will be much much more pain.

Kommentar von Chubark

I just want to come here and say that, to those still working or looking to complete it, do not give up hope! I just got done with it after 369 Mogu solves and 217 Pandaren solves. My last pristine artifact was the Terracotta Arm.

You can do it! Keep working!

As previous comments said, I recommend looking into Foraging Gloves. They made it so much easier.

Kommentar von grumpytroll

Finally finished on 5/1 after 6-7 years. Final numbers:

Pandaren 347
Mogu 727
Mantid 318

Total 1792

Terracotta Arm was the last one to get and it took 70 solves (uggggh)

Kommentar von Velanhor

I finished it with 301 Pandaren and 344 Mogu. I finished Mogu with 217 solve, so I needed 127 more to finish Pandaren. Twin Stein Set was the last one for me, I needed to solve 24 for it. I listened 2 shorter story, Christine and more than half of IT from Stephen King audio book and several geek and political youtube channel videos. It took for me weeks and several hours to finish the achie. I recommend to do the same if you try this nice time consuming achie, and listen youtube videos and audiobooks to not go crazy. Have patience! All in all, I was lucky...

Kommentar von nsmang

The Mantid took me 276 solves. The Pandaren took me 341 solves.

But...I still need 1 more Mogu pristine (Thunder King Insignia), I'm at 78 solves for that one alone with a total of 749 solves for just Mogu..... Please kill me now.

This RNG is complete shenanigans, I've almost got more Mogu solves than most people take to complete all of Pandaria archaeology.

Kommentar von Hjojo

As I find comfort in reading about others long journey to get this achievement done, I'll share mine as well, although I definitely didn't have it worst.
My final solve count were as follows
Pandaren: 387
Mogu :494
Mantid: 278
For a total of 1159 solves excluding rares.
My last pristine, which had eluded me for years, was the Mogu artifact Worn Monument Ledger at 40 total solves (where as Edicts ended on 46 and the rest being 49+)
My mantid solves are also a bit higher than nessesary as I tried out the Mantid farm at one point.

If you, like me, were about to give up hope, feeling the drop of your last pristine were bugged, I hope reading about mine, and others, journey helps motivate you a bit.
And for any who are wanting to start this grind, I hope you aren't too discouraged. It definitely can be a tough grind, but that also just makes the achievement all the more special :)

Kommentar von AnimatorSD

I am getting fed up with this achieve. The last one I need is Pristine Gold-Inlaid Figurine. I have completed it 45 times and that is ridiculous!

Kommentar von MCesus

This is easily the most difficult achievement I've ever pursued.

Unlike the insane grind you never really have much to show for your progress (A constant rep bar that only goes up). Instead you rely on RNG (Artifact you need) to then RNG (Pristine Artifact).

This achievement is difficult for reasons that won't seem obvious, my advice to anyone looking to undertake this achievement is to simply understand that you will constantly be barraged with feelings of constant disappointment (I did the achievement from start to finish in 4 very long days this may increase feelings of constant disappointment). Never let that despair get to you even though the pristine you need rarely ever appears and then when it does it isn't even a pristine.

It will eventually, they always do. Good luck and may you have a strong disappointment tolerance.

Some stats that may help you feel better or maybe a little bit worse. RNG dependent just like the achievement.

Total artifacts
Mogu: 429
Pandaren: 393
Mantid: 273

Total Solves: 1095

My last pristine was the Pristine Pandaren Tea Set (32nd Completion) I rarely saw this towards the end maybe once every 20 solves.

Kommentar von PowerfulWoW

I don't have exact numbers for each. But I have my digsite count at ~3400 digsites. The sad part is I'm not done. I still have 1 pristine left - Warlord's Branding Iron. Currently at 205 solves. Part of the reason I have so many digsites is keystones are so incredibly expensive on my server I just can't afford them. Additionally I'd like to add during this entire time I have nearly completed the WoD archae pristine achievements AND along my way I have solved pretty much every rare artifact in every other race of archaeology. For me this is a contender of the most poorly designed achievements along with PvP pet battle achievements. I think PvP pet battles take the cake still. I have a somewhat accurate calculation of real time. I would testify in a court without a shadow of a doubt that some artifacts are way more common than others. I have at least 2-3x more solves for Mogu Runestone, Petrified Bone Whips, Praying Mantids and a few others than Warlord's Branding Iron. All in all, a terrible achievement and a terrible profession. I think Blizzard needs to consider a keystone trader for archaeology where you can exchange any keystone for another and that would probably help too.

Kommentar von Vaugn

I accomplished this achievement in 553 solves which is apparently better than average. This includes Mantid solves during which I also acquired Pristine artifacts for that achievement as well. Apparently this is better than average, but there's a price to pay: I have not yet gotten all the Mantid and Pandaren artifacts to 20/20. In particular, the Pearls of Yu'lon was only up to 10/20. So I have more archeology to do get all those achievements done as well. (Still, the Pristines are subject to a lot more RNG, so I'm fine with how it's going.)

Kommentar von Triphop

Just finished this achievement today in slightly under 2 months.

963 Panda solves
554 Mogu solves
1517 total

Last one was Gold-Inlaid Figurine, that procced only at 79th solve. Don't give up! RNGesus always loses in the end.

Kommentar von Omgwtfpwnoobsftw

It is estimated that each pristine has a 10% chance to appear. Since there are 2 sets of 10 artifacts, on average, it should take 293 completions per race to get this achievement. 586 total. Mantid is another 216 artifacts, on average. Of course, some people will do it faster, while others are much slower, but that is the average.

Kommentar von Rethric

Okay, so after a lot of pain and suffering I'm finally finished with this godforsaken achievement. My attempt numbers.

Mogu:

Manacles of Rebellion 32x
Cracked Mogu Runestone 37x
Terracotta Arm 38x
Petrified Bone Whip 26x
Thunder King Insignia 34x
Edict of the Thunder King 30x
Iron Amulet 27x
Warlord's Branding Iron 27x
Mogu Coin 28x
Worn Monument Ledger 27x

Pandaren:

Empty Keg of Brewfather Xin Wo Yin 62x
Pandaren Tea Set 33x
Pandaren Game Board 43x
Twin Stein Set of Brewfather Quan Tuo Kuo 44x
Walking Cane of Brewfather Ren Yun 51x
Carved Bronze Mirror 35x (This was the one I was struggling with last, proccing very seldom and when it did it would never be pristine)
Gold-Inlaid Porcelain Funerary Figurine 49x
Apothecary Tins 43x
Pearl of Yu'lon 42x
Standard of Niuzao 52x

Mantid:

Kypari Sap Container 31x
Banner of the Mantid Empire 27x
Ancient Sap Feeder 29x
The Praying Mantid 22x
Inert Sound Beacon 34x
Remains of a Paragon 26x
Mantid Lamp 37x
Pollen Collector 27x

Mogu Solves: 306. Pandaren Solves: 454. Mantid Solves: 233.
Total: 993.
Rating 0/10
Would you recommend this achievment to a friend? Absolutely not in a million years.

Now on to Dreanor!11

Kommentar von Miaque

Similar to the earlier comments, after much pain and suffering:

Mogu: 401
Pandaren: 271
Mantid: 253
Total: 925
Rating 0/10
Would not recommend this achievement to a friend.

Why can't Blizzard get the idea of bad-luck protection?

Kommentar von Emyly

This is one of the nastiest achievements ever.
If u dare attempt this I recomand a high mobility character rogue, hunter, druid with full speed gear at least 50%+ movement speed and a second monitor to watch G.P. or whatever while u do this
For me it was extremely unlucky 1457 solves and at some points I just wished I jump out of the window. Edicts of Thunder King just did not drop 71 solves for the elite version.

Good luck to all completionists attempting this hope u have better luck than me. Just keep going eventually it will pop.

Kommentar von Flanell

After more than 10 years its finally over. I'm literally crying. I cant believe it. I found my nemesis the prestine walking cane.

369 mogu solves
327 mantis solves
441 pandaren solves (got only 36 walking canes, 45-60 every other artifact)

I even did the impossible and got 3 yulon pearls in a row and wished it was a walking cane.

I still love Pandaria and I will miss it. But now it is time to move on to Draenor.

Kommentar von icemage24

This achievement is OBSCENE.
I am currently at:
642 Pandaren commons
372 Mogu commons
129 Mantid commons

1143 common crafts, and i'm still 1 pristine short.

Some advice.
-Save ALL of your green fragment pieces. Sell your Mantid ones. Save your Mogu and Pandaren until you're down to your last pristine, when 2/3 of the dig sites become useless to you. This will let you maximize every dig site you get for your last one
-Your restored artifacts can be used to buy fragments from the vendor in Dalaran. Though i used over 700 restored artifacts, crafted something like 100 commons sitting in dalaran with no dice, it's a huge chunk

Kommentar von Luryk

Just finished this achievement today ! :)

Mogu: 424 solves
Mantid: 285 solves
Pandaren: 399 solves

For a total of 1108 archeology artifacts completed in MoP. Do not even want to think about the amount of gold spent on all the archeology keystones 0.o

Kommentar von Samaramon1

Finally did this after 9 years. Thunder King insignia can permanently F off.

520 Mogu solves
343 Pandaren solves
216 Mantid solves

Total = 1079

Kommentar von tarazet

There is a little-known vendor in Ashran that makes this achievement much more achievable. It’s an arrakoa named Srikka in Warspear (for Horde) and Grakis in Stormshield (for Alliance). You can trade one Restored Artifact for a box of Mogu, Pandaren or Mantid artifacts, which were not present in the vendors from the Seat of Knowledge in Pandaria.

Combined with buying Pandaren Pottery Shards and Mogu Statue Pieces to speed up your solves, and the newfound speed of dragon flying in the old world as of 10.2.5, this achievement becomes less daunting and arduous. Still, be prepared to dedicate many hours if you want the Seeker of Knowledge title.

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Das Heim des Wissens

Restauriert makellose Versionen aller Pandaren- und Moguartefakte und stellt sie aus.

Kriterien

	Makellose Fesseln der Rebellion (1)
	Makelloser Arm aus Terrakotta (1)
	Makelloses Insigne des Donnerkönigs (1)
	Makelloses Eisenamulett (1)
	Makellose Mogumünze (1)
	Makelloses pandarisches Teeservice (1)
	Makellose Zwillingsbierkrüge (1)
	Makelloses leeres Fässchen (1)
	Makellose Figurine mit Goldintarsien (1)
	Makellose Perle von Yu'lon (1)

	Makelloser Runenstein der Mogu (1)
	Makellose versteinerte Peitsche aus Knochen (1)
	Makellose Edikte des Donnerkönigs (1)
	Makelloses Brandeisen (1)
	Makelloses Kassenbuch eines Architekten (1)
	Makelloses Brettspiel (1)
	Makelloser Gehstock (1)
	Makelloser verzierter Bronzespiegel (1)
	Makellose Medizindöschen (1)
	Makellose Standarte von Niuzao (1)

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Euch wird der Titel ", Sucher des Wissens" verliehen

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