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Kommentar von 712875

It's Blizzards version of their Balrog. Can someone say "YOU SHALL NOT PASS"!

Kommentar von yoshimo

Not necessary, he already does that^^

""<164.8> CHAT_MSG_MONSTER_YELL#Ihr kommt nicht vorbei.#Baloroc###Tyránn##0#0##0#741##0#false", -- " , german version of "You shall not pass" .

Kommentar von 512576

This boss may be a reference to Balrogs from Lord of the Rings. In addition to just LOOKING like a Balrog, its name sounds vaguely like Balrog when said aloud (assuming that his name is pronounced 'bahl-er-oc') Curiously enough, the references don't stop there. If you wanted to get specific when it came to naming Balrogs, you could call this a reference to a Lord of the Rings Online balrog boss named Durin's Bane.

According to one of my friends who plays LOTRO, the abilities Blaze of Glory, Decimation Blade, and Incendiary Soul (three abilities that make this fight unique) are identical to three of the abilities that Durin's Bane himself uses. The toggle from physical damage/fire damage that comes from Baleroc's Inferno Blade ability is also present in the LOTRO fight.

So it appears to be a hidden nod to LOTRO players. You guys should know the fight already!

Kommentar von 252897

Short fight tactics, will be updated once live versions appear...

Only one phase currently.

-This is primarily a healer fight. The tanks health will continually rise, while his damage taken will as well.
-Have DPS stand close to the crystals that Balerog spawns. Rotate so that the damage doesnt become too high.
-Healers healing the targets with crystal debuff stacks (use fast heals for more stacks!) gain a stack of a heal buff, which increases healing done to tank. Keep this buff up & stacking so healing the tank doesnt become impossible (the tank can have above 1mil hp by end of fight).

Heroic

-If you get hit by countdown, simply move together. Do NOT run in to players with Torment stacks or they will spread.
-The fight becomes more of a DPS check than anything. The enrage timer is tight, so once healers get their rotation working/dps gets torment rotation working, its all about hard dummy dps.

Kommentar von 409905

All players are required to shout "Fly, you fools!" before they can kill the boss.

Kommentar von 751138

A note to fellow Holy Pallies, when you are healing people affected by shards, DO NOT put beacon on the tank. It will screw you over, giving you a lock out on gaining new stacks.

Kommentar von stuffeh

From my own personal raiding experience on this boss as a rogue, Cloak of Shadows does NOTHING for this fight. Doesn't reset stacks of Torment, doesn't drop the debuff from Tormented, and doesn't make you immune to the damage from Torment.

Kommentar von Sagira

Does anyone know if the increased healing buff applies to a discipline priest's Atonement talent? Or are disc priests at a severe disadvantage here?

Kommentar von 848112

Actually, I'm pretty sure all Firelands bosses have models unique to the Molten Front.

Kommentar von Grays

I developed two awesome Power Auras for this fight for healers. When you're building stacks, you get a blue aura that indicates how many stacks of Vital Spark you have. When you begin healing a tank, your aura turns orange and shows a countdown timer for how long Vital Flame lasts.

Set=Baleroc@
Aura=Version:4.21; g:0.851; icon:INV_Elemental_Mote_Fire01; buffname:Vital Spark; r:0; texture:3; alpha:0.7; size:1.2; torsion:0.82; y:-38; stacks.enabled:true; stacks.LegacySizing:false; stacks.y:14; stacks.x:-2; stacks.h:3.49@
Aura=Version:4.21; b:0; anim1:4; g:0.6275; icon:INV_Elemental_Primal_Fire; buffname:Vital Flame; texture:11; alpha:0.7; size:1.78; torsion:0.99; y:-38; timer.h:3.84; timer.enabled:true; timer.cents:false; timer.y:15; timer.x:5@

Kommentar von OldWolf

Some strategy guides I've read don't even mention the ability "Countdown" described on the "Encounter" tab here; is that ability actually in the fight? If so, what do you do if a healer gets linked to a Tormented player?

Kommentar von kepplerinc

Does Vengeance not scale with the tank's health on this fight?

Kommentar von GraveDiggerX

Strategy Guide:

Below, I have written a guide on the abilities and how we defeated this boss.

Our Group:

Tanks - | Druid | Death Knight |
Healers - | Shaman | Druid | Priest |
DPS - | Rogue | Hunter | Death Knight | Mage | SPriest |

Boss Info:

Baleroc is the gatekeeper to Ragnaros' spire and is the final encounter you will face before crossing the bridge and on to the last 2 encounters.
Baleroc uses his two blades as his primary means of destruction... coupled with summoning crystals to torment raid members.
He is a fairly simple 1 phase encounter that takes some quick practice to master.

Boss Abilities/Strategy:

You will enter his single phase as you engage him.
The main mechanic of this fight has to deal with his two blades. In order to do deal with these abilities, you will need to coordinate Blaze of Glory stacks, which start getting applied shortly after engaging.
This ability will increase the tank's HP by 20% upon every application... however, you need to be careful, because it also increases physical damage taken by 20% and increases Baleroc's fire damage by 20% per application.
In order to deal with the increased damage and increased HP of the tanks, you will need to have your healers gain large amounts of Vital Spark which are gained via healing the players with Torment. (1 stack of Vital Spark per 3 stacks of Torment)
Torment is gained from the small purple spikes that Baleroc periodically summons. You will want to have 2 people assigned to each shard due to the exponential damage they take.
Since the shards last for ~25 seconds, and because Vital Spark stacks at intervals of 3, you will want to have each DPS try and take 12 stacks each... Giving the healer 4 stacks per direct heal.
You will want to assign pairs in order to deal with these, because after a player as left a shard of torment, they become Tormented causing them to take increased shadow damage... effectively preventing them from eating the torment for a while.
Tormented also reduces the healing output by 50% which is why you will only want DPS to take the stacks.
The only catch to this Vital Spark mechanic is in the way it activates Vital Flame. Upon healing a tank with the debuff, the healer will LOSE his stacks of Vital Spark and be unable to gain more stacks until the Vital Flame buff has disappeared 12 seconds later. This is where a careful balance between tank healing and torment healing will come into effect. Coordinate amongst your healers how you will handle this. You will want to gain as many stacks as possible, while still keeping your tanks alive.

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Finally... the difficult part of this encounter... the blades.
Decimation Blade - When Baleroc imbues his weapon with decimation, he will no longer do physical damage, and only do shadow damage. During this blade he will have 100% slowed swinging speed, however when he strikes, he will do so for 90% of the tanks HP... and at least 250k damage. You will want to have your OT tank this phase, and the beginning of the encounter. Let him get to >250k HP and then only tank during decimation blade.
Inferno Blade - When Baleroc imbues his weapon with inferno, he will no longer do physical damage, and only do fire damage. Due to his stacks of Incendiary Soul, Baleroc will do immense amounts of damage to the tank. Have your MT tank during this blade and use any CDs you need to.

Tips:

Have one healer heal the first 2 torments with help from the others to gain stacks quickly, and then just rotate torment healers to gain stacks the rest of the fight.
Once you get torment healing/stacks/torment stackers, the rest of the fight will fall into place.
This fight is basically a gear check... bring your best DPS.

I wish you the best of luck, and feel free to critique my post and ask any questions.

Please uprate if this helped at all!

A link to our video on YouTube is HERE so you can see how it's done. Please rate and subscribe to see our upcoming videos!

~Wrex | Pseudonym | Executus-US

Kommentar von blupache

Notes on tanking the blades:

Inferno Blade can be dodged, parried and blocked. Yes, it's fire damage, but it's still blockable, go figure.

Decimation Blade can be dodged or parried but cannot be blocked, nor is it affected by standard % damage reduction cooldowns (i.e. shield wall or guardian of the ancient kings). This means if you're using a two tank method, gimmick sets are very appropriate for the Decimation Blade tank (i.e. Felsgrundtalisman's equip effect is excellent here). Dancing Rune Weapon makes DKs excellent Decimation Blade tankers, Ardent Defender makes paladins a not-horrible alternative, Bears native avoidance is generally excellent, while warriors have nothing going for them in this role.

Typical two tank rotation will have the Decimation Blade tank start tanking. Rotate through major non-avoidance CDs while going from 2-3 stacks because your healers won't have any of the +healing buffs at that point and they're not going to be any use to you later anyway.

You'll get your 3rd stack shortly before the first blade. Second tank can taunt once you're at 280,000+ hp (~3rd stack) or you can wait to see what the first blade will be and taunt if it's Inferno Blade (not as efficient, but simpler and not particularly dangerous). The idea is to keep the Decimation Blade tank as close to 277,778hp as possible (i.e. where the 250,000 minimum hit = 90% of their HP) so as to minimise the amount of healing required when they don't avoid & make snap-healing them back to full hp easier. From that point on, it's a standard tanking rotation.

Edit: During a hotfix they changed it so that the first blade is always inferno blade, hence a two tank rotation should always do their swap as soon as the initial (decimation blade) tank has reached 277,778+ hp.

Kommentar von Tareku

Just a gear check. If you have the dps/hps required, it's easier than the spider.

On 10m at least the shard will always spawn on the closest dps to the boss, so it's really easy if you have only 1 melee dps, that way you always know where it will spawn.

A really helpful tactic for this boss from a DPS point of view is to assign each dps to another dps, that way they can swap once they get to 9 stacks, for example

Assign DPS 1 to DPS2
Assign DPS 2 to DPS3
Assign DPS 3 to DPS4
Assign DPS 4 to DPS5
Assign DPS 5 to DPS6
Assign DPS 6 to DPS1

So when the fight starts a shard will spawn on DPS1 (a melee dps) he gets to 9 stacks and moves away from the shard, and DPS2 takes his spot, DPS2 gets 9 stacks and moves away, DPS3 takes his spot and so on. Once the shard despawn, it will spawn again on the melee dps, at that moment he will be afflicted with the tormented debuff, so another DPS (DPS6 for example, if the last one to get the tormented debuff was DPS5) must take his place, and the chain continues.

We completed this fight with 1 tank 3 healers and 6 dps (1 melee (me) and 5 ranged)

Kommentar von Euphemia

Flaskaholics downing Baleroc, using a 2-tank setup. The tank doing Decimation Blades does the pull to gain stacks to get him comfortably above the 250k marker before the maintank taunts and tanks everything else during the fight.

Our pointers:

Offtank does the pull until he has stacks of Blaze of Glory so he is above 250k hp, then maintank does all except each Decimation Blades.
We assigned 4 dps, 2 for each crystal, on crystals. Couple A would do crystal 1-3-5-7 etc, and couple B would do crystal 2-4-6-8 etc. Each would go to 11/12/13 stacks, depending on their own hp when they step in to eat the crystal. Any kind of self heals to help out while eating crystals, especially in the beginning of the fight
2 healers on tanks all the time, 1 on the raid. Direct heals on Tormented players (who've eaten crystals) gives the healer Vital Spark -> rotate healers when new crystal spawns to make sure all three get stacks. Direct heals from them, when they have stacks, on the tanks leads to Vital Flame = BIG NUMBAHS and awesome fun for the healers :D
Tanks can have fun, thinking they found the hidden stereoids ingame, and dps should be able to show nice numbers as well.
Repeat all through the fight, communicate and stick to the assigned rotation, and you can loot this guy!

/EDIT: With a decently geared druid tank, we now solotank this encounter, giving us one more on the dps-side so that the berserk timer is a complete non-issue.
/EDIT2: Going 2 healers as well makes it a walk in the park, tbh... Also, it'll very likely get you Share The Pain, as your dps will raise turning this into a speedkill.
/EDIT3: Added info about the achievement above.

Best of luck!

Kommentar von blupache

The Shadowpriest Approach to Buffing Healers Early

- Each Shard, on both 10 & 25 man, gives out 25 ticks of Torment at a rate of 1 tick per second
- These ticks will go through bubble or iceblock, so standard invulnerabilities are useless
- Dispersion from a shadowpriest reduces damage by 90% for the 6 seconds it's active
- At maximum (25th tick), Torment will do 25x4000 = 100,000 damage per second. This means a dispersed shadowpriest is taking 10,000 damage per second, which is comfortably heal-able
- When a healer heals someone receiving Torment, they get 3 stacks of Vital Spark per stack of Torment. The more stacks of Vital Spark they've got, the bigger their heals on the tank.

The idea: A shadowpriest can take all 25 ticks from a Shard, allowing the healers to get extremely high stacks right out of the gate and effectively reducing/eliminating the early healing crunch where low stacked healers are struggling to keep up a high HP tank.

Up to about 12 stacks should be healable simply by spamming the DPSer (12 stacks = 48,000 dps). Your goal is to use external mitigation/healing CDs on the shadowpriest to keep them up until they're at 20 stacks.

A Disc Priest is fairly ideal for this, in their case they would use Power Word: Barrier at stack 11. This means the Spriest will be taking 25% less damage up till the 20th stack has hit them. At stack 13 the Disc Priest hits the Spriest with Pain Suppression which'll cover the remainder of the window. You can layer external CDs from any class to do it though (Hand of Sacrifice, Divine Guardian, Spirit Link totem, et cetera), just work out your timing accordingly.

As soon as the Spriests sees their stack count hit 20, they disperse - the 6 second period will cover stacks 21, 22, 23, 24 & 25 and run out the second after they stop getting ticks. You could potentially aim to disperse at stack 19, but you do run the risk of getting one shot by the 25th stack if you're too quick on the trigger - better a little more healing at low Torment & guaranteeing the mitigation at high Torment stacks.

End result: Every non-tank healer tries to tag the shadowpriest with as many heals as possible - by the time they disperse they'll only be taking a max of 10,000 dps so spamming your quickest heal on them will comfortably keep them up while getting plenty of stacks. Via using this method the starting raid healers can easily be up to 50+ stacks from the first shard.

With glyphed dispersion (75s CD) a shadowpriest can potentially take every 3rd shard but we didn't find this particularly useful - doing it once at the start to build stacks quickly was enough to smooth the fight out. However if you were aiming to get the achievement, stacking shadowpriests would certainly make it vastly easier.

(NB. I originally saw this strat posted on mmo-champion forums by the Reagan Smash guild on Malygos so all credit to them, I'm simply reposting because we found this approach helpful & no one else has mentioned it yet)

Kommentar von ZelosRaine

Just downed this on Ysondre (US) last night with 16secs to go on enrage. I definitely feel that 6dps is probably a must for most non-pro guilds.

Comp was:
Pally tank
Pally heals, Shammy heals, Disc priest (me)
Subtlety Rogue, Fire Mage, Feral Druid, BM Hunter, Elemental Shammy, and Shadow Priest

Some tips and tricks that really helped us get the kill:

Tanks, not much to do here. Pop all your non-Decimation blade cd's as soon as the first shard comes up so that your healers can all get big stacks. Use dodge/parry/healing received cds on Decimation blade and anything you have left for Inferno blades. Tank him where he stands with back to raid.

Dps, one reliable dps (prefer ranged) should be in charge of calling rotation. At least 5 dps should rotating on the crystals, taking over once the one before them gets around 10 stacks. The crystal's spawn point can be seen by a tall, narrow pillar of black energy. It's not terribly noticeable, but, if you are looking, you can see where it will come. I can confirm that Shadow Priests are pro at taking big stacks with Dispersion and whatnot. Our Shadow Priest, with a few healing cds, was able to take the entire first crystal. That, combined with a Hero/Lust as the crystal came out and with the tank blowing cds, allowed all three healers to get some nice stacks to begin with. Maximizing dps, especial with 6 dps, is secondary to getting the crystals right.

Heals, if you are doing what I suggested above, be sure to use your fastest heals during Hero/Lust for big stacks. A healing rotation should already be established so that, once the tank starts needing heals again, one healer switches off (our pally was first and had about 30 stacks at that point), then second heals, then third. It is VERY important not to stop healing the tank until your Vital Flame buff is almost out but it is equally important NOT TO HEAL THE TANK AFTER IT WEARS OFF. If you do, you will get a new one and will not be able to get enough stacks to keep up with tank damage. Once again, you can't get the stacks you need to heal the tank from the dps if you have the buff from the tank. Inferno blades wasn't too bad, but Decimation Blades is crazy. Final solution was: "If Decimation Blades is being cast, everyone who can call it, calls it. ALL HEALERS SWITCH TO TANK. Spam him to full." Be sure to pop mana restoring cds early as it will be almost exactly a 6 min fight so you will have the opportunity to use them again.

Good luck!

Kommentar von wellcool

We killed him using only 2 healer's. It make's it alot easier actually as you can have 2 groups of 3 dps taking the shard debuffs making them easier to heal (8 or 9 stacks each) and there isn't an issue with communication on healing because the healer's just take turns healing on a shard and switching to tanks.

Aslong as you know the other basic tactic's I'd highly recommend using 2 healers for those 2 reasons alone, not to mention the fact another dps make's the boss go down faster so that's 3 reason's right there!

Kommentar von 445371

Funny thing to try: If he goes berserk and you want to finish in style, have your tank sit down. There's nothing like getting a two million crit to the face. He'll go down in a ... Blaze of Glory! XD~

Kommentar von 177048

If you drop a Smoke Bomb on a spawning crystal before it chooses a target, it will not put Torment on anyone for the duration of the Smoke Bomb. The crystal will only put up 20-22 Torment stacks, depending on how closely the Smoke Bomb was deployed to when the crystal would of picked a target. -source

Use this with extreme caution. Remember even after you drop it, both you and the person who will pick up the Torment must be OUT of the smoke cloud or it will target you. Also once the smoke bomb disappears, the person picking up the Torment must still be the closest to the crystal. If used correctly, however, this strat can save your healers quite a bit of strain...possibly :)

Kommentar von warrigt

Does earth shield on the tank affect stack collecting?

Kommentar von 597108

It seems that if a guild downs him if one goes to the news where it says "Insert Guild Name Here" defeated
if you hover over the name you get a picture of a rather silly looking blue doomguard.

Kommentar von MaxTheDragon

Did this fight with 1 Tank (me, prot pally), 2 Healers and 7 DPS. Made the fight rediculously easy. The whole blade mechanic can be ignored. Just make sure that the healers (and possibly using self-heals) keep you above 90% hp during Decimation Blade. That's it.

Kommentar von armrule

Sharing strats (3 to choose from), kill video, & detailed analysis for 10-man normal mode --> http://raidbriefing.blogspot.com/2011/08/baleroc-10-man-nm.html

Kommentar von Rexican

10 Man Dps rotation strategy.

Our raid usually consists of 3 healers, 2 tanks, and 5 dps. We always have 3 dps on each shard. So say the dps are named 1,2,3,4, and 5.

The first shard would be 1st dps with 9 stacks, 2nd dps with 9 stacks and 3rd dps with 7 stacks.
The 2nd shard would 4th dps with 9 stacks, 5th dps with 9 stacks, and 1st dps with 7 stacks.

This is just a basis queue.

The 3rd Shard would 2nd dps with 9 Stacks, 3rd dps with 9 Stacks, and 4th dps with 7 stacks.

Shards last 25 secs. They are cast every 35 seconds. The Torment buff lasts 2 seconds. So the 1st dps will have 49 seconds for the Tormented debuff to wear off before they have to get the torment buff again. The tormented Debuff only lasts 40 seconds so we have a nice buffer. 49 = 7 (9 -2 for torment debuff to come off and become tormented) + 7 from 3rd dps + 10 (between shards) + 9 (4th Dps) + 9 (5th Dps).

Enjoy. Feedback is welcome

-Randy

Kommentar von citrique

880 rep awarded on 25-man heroic (with guild perk)

Surprised someone would downrate correct information.

Kommentar von 862421

We used the 2 person per crystal method, having the first dps take about 15 stacks of torment, then having another eat the rest (two other dps do the same on the other crystal). Though my warrior's main is a tank, for our raid I am generally used as melee dps. At the moment I use Dwyer's Caber coupled with Apparatus of Khaz goroth. Since there is really no need for high burst damage I substituted the Apparatus with Mirror of Broken images for this fight (since I have it for my tank). The mastery does not hurt an arms warrior (Strikes of Opportunity) and the 10 seconds of +400 resistance to shadow damage on use ability is perfect for this fight. It has a one minute cooldown which falls in perfect with crystal rotation. At five stacks or so of torment I blow this trinket. By the time your turn comes back around again on the cystal, this trinket will be up again. This really helps the healers out, as well as gives you one less dps cooldown to worry about so you can focus more on mechanics while first learning the fight. Substituting the tanking trinket for this fight didn't even hurt my dps very much.

Kommentar von ssjheero

Keeping in mind the basic building blocks detailed, there are a few ways to beat the boss so long as several tenets are adhered to:

Absolute amount of damage done increasing doesn't change the percentage the damage is relative to the tank's health. Notice that all of the damage increases by 20% for every Blaze of Glory stack. All physical damage is increased by 20% from Blaze of Glory itself, and Baleroc's personal buff increases fire damage by 20% every time he applies a stack. This means that in the overall scheme of things, healers just has to keep pace with the 20% increase in damage every 10 seconds in order to make the healing easy.
A shard spawns every 30 seconds, almost on the dot. It lasts 24 seconds and gives a 6-second breather. This means during each shard, you can fit 2 Vital Flames per healer.
Each stack of Vital Spark increases healing done by 5%, therefore, in order to keep pace with Baleroc's damage increases, all healers must average at least 12 stacks each shard. (He will apply about 3 Blaze of Glory stacks every shard, for a 60% damage increase, 60%/5% = 12 stacks.) Even more is better, and makes the later part of the fight easier.
Land more heals while the shard target has more stacks of torment to greatly outpace Baleroc's damage.

Putting all of these together, your healers must be split into two roles: tank healer, stack builder. If they are not healing the tank (and using up Vital Flame), they are building up their stacks, and vice versa. With two healers, it becomes a simple switch, as long as a single healer can heal a tank for 90% of his health within 4 seconds or so.

With three healers, like my guild, we had 2 healers switching between the tank/builder, and one healer constantly building stacks to be in reserve in order to help heal the Blades (Decimation/Inferno). We also switched tank/build healers during the shard transition, as it requires less precise timing. This introduces a little bit of riskiness, though, as at first one healer will be ahead of the curve, while the other will be behind the curve. The reserve healer helps out in that case. This is fixed quickly if the healers build up more than 24 stacks each shard.

Overall, this is a finesse fight with a few ways to tackle it. The general two tank method makes Decimation Blade much easier to heal, but it makes Inferno Blade do a slightly higher amount of damage relative to that tank's health. If you're having issues, try switching around roles until you get one that clicks, there is no one path to victory.

Kommentar von xLas

You actually have to kill Beth'Tilac, Shannox, Alysrazor and Lord Rhyolith before you can go ahead and kill Majordomo.
My guild is currently on 4/7 trying to get Alysrazor down atm and we cannot access Majordomo.

Kommentar von 572232

WARNING: for holy paladins, do NOT put hand of sacrifice on a tank, the dmg is so hight it will prolly kill you unless you bubble.

Kommentar von 371504

In order to gain access to Baleroc you need to force Shannox to spawn.

Kommentar von 846320

Any ideas if Thunderfury would be a good weapon to switch out for the decimation blades? Since it slows the target's attack speed by 20%, if it actually works on Baleroc I think it'd be very useful. Going to test it out on Baleroc during my next lockout. It'd be good just to switch it out, get the tornado effect on him and then re-equip my normal dps weapons.

Kommentar von Lindentree

Something I noticed while looking over the logs of our best attempt on Baleroc: the direct heal you use to trigger Vital Flame does not benefit from the X% healing buff. Don't waste your slow heals triggering the buff: use an instant to trigger, and then pour on the nukes.

The attempt was a wipe because the shaman with 60 stacks of Vital Spark cast a GHW that hit for only 29k.

Kommentar von Hanz0

pro tip : a shadowpriest can take a full crystal. just ask 2 healers to heal you from 12 stacks to 18 stacks and then pop dispersion at exactly 18 stacks and it will last till the shard is down. you`ll ask yourself what benefit will this give to the raid? well its simple.

for each 3 stacks of torment that you get, the healers that heal you get 1 stack of vital spark. meaning after you get 18+ they start getting 6 stacks and more stacks of vital spark per heal that they cast on you making them get an insane ammount of sparks in a very short period of time succesfully increasing their healing capability from a ton to a shìtton in under 5 seconds!

combine this with glyph of dispersion and you can get each 3rd shard and do this kinda like this :

shard 1: shadowpriest
shard 2: 2 x random dpsers
shard 3: 2 x random dpsers
shard 4: shadowpriest again

Kommentar von Catalyst8487

My 10 man group finally got this down tonight. We went with 2 tanks and 3 healers. We had two healers do a crystal/tank swap while the 3rd healer healed thru 2 crystals then went to main heal the tank.

Two things we did differently that the main tank healer occasionally thru something like Riptide or HW on the torment target to gain a few more stacks periodically, and the decimation tank only took the first and third decimation blades, while the main tank took the second one. We tried as hard as we could to heal thru all three blades on one tank but just couldn't do it. Maybe with a few more pieces of gear.

DPS averaged 18k and we beat the enrage timer by 15 seconds. Good luck to you all!

Kommentar von 569379

10 man normal
2 Tanks, 3 Healers

Initial tank took Blaze of Glory hits until his hp > 250k, and then he only tanked during the Decimation Strikes.

Dps rotated for each shard, 2 per shard, taking 12/13 stacks of Torment apiece.

Healers rotated after each shard, one on the shard victims, the others on the active tank.

Keep the tanks topped, and don't let the shard victims die, I found putting my (glyphed) Beacon on each shard victim really helped keeping them up.

Healers need to build up their stacks of Vital Spark by healing the shard victim, but this cant be done while they have the Vital Flame buff, which they get from any direct heal on a tank. The Vital Flame buff lasts for 15 seconds after the last tank heal.

Its a fun fight, good luck!

Edit: You can configure Grid to show who has the Torment debuff etc.

Kommentar von angelblack

A cool thing is to use Felsgrundtalisman as Decimation Blade tank.
If you don't avoid the first hit, you'll have a nice boost of dodge for the 2nd hit. And if you dodge the first hit and get hit by the second, the dodge will still be very useful for the incoming auto-attacks before your healers get to top-off 1.3 million HP.

Pretty much the only use I've found for this trinket.

Kommentar von 834605

The most convenient setup I've found for Baleroc is to go with 1 tank 3 healers 6 dps in 10 man:
We used 4 dps for switching on the shard.
The last healer setup was 2 holly paladins and 1 shammy but you should be able to do it with any other healing classes.
The healing rotation is :
2 healers switch between healing the tank and healing the tormented people to get Lebensfunke buff (paladin me and shammy ) We usually let Lebensflamme go 2 times (after vital flame expires you get the Lebensfunke stacks back which transform back to Lebensflamme when you heal the tank so it's about 30 sec switch (switch can also be done at 15 sec but you might have some problems getting enough stacks because of not being stacked high enough on players during those 15 sec ( 1 Lebensfunke for each 3 stacks on the player when you heal them ).
The switch it's better to occur when the 2nd Lebensflamme has about 3 sec left so you will not heal the tank by mistake reset to another Lebensflamme .
The 3rd healer will always heal tormented people to gain as much stacks of Lebensfunke as possible and move in for Dezimierende Klinge to get the tank as fast as possible to full health before the next decimation blade hits, after tank is full or decimation blade ends he will go back to healing the shard people leaving the other 2 healers to switch on healing tank. If correctly done the 3rd healer should have at least twice as many stacks as the other 2 healers and will act as a backup nuke heal for emergency situations (it is even possible to heal up if all Dezimierende Klinge hit in a very unlucky case).

Tips:
The healer starting on the tank should try to also get some stacks from the tormented people when the fight begin as long as tank is not in danger (pala starting on the tank is better because of beacon)
If you're healing tormented try to use your instants /fast heals toward the end of the player's shard time when he has more stacks of maximizing this way the number of Lebensfunke you get.
Healers should use a low-cost fast heal (instant would be perfect) to activate Lebensflamme since the heal activating it will not benefit from the stacks of Lebensfunke.
Have your holly paladins use Aurenbeherrschung for Infernoklinge to reduce the fire dmg.
Tank should use mitigation cd during Infernoklinge and avoidance cd during Dezimierende Klinge since the damage cannot be mitigated

Kommentar von N0VIS

Does anyone else think he sounds like Omor the Unscarred from Hellfire Ramparts?

Kommentar von Iroared

I did this fight as a holy paladin for the first time (after doing it many times as prot/ret), took me a few tries to figure out how to heal effectively here.
I found that it works best to beacon the tank and spam holy light on soakers like crazy. It doesn't keep them up as well if they have many stacks, but they really should be switching at that point. This way you get tons of stacks without running out of mana, and get a nice 100% healing from beacon. Once you switch to tank healing you lose your stacks buff but instead get a buff which increases healing on a tank. After 15 seconds it drops and returns your stacks. I'm not completely sure here, I think its so you can't collect stacks while healing the tank, which would make holy paladins ridiculously OP here (as in beacon+holy light spam).

Kommentar von nater131

Hotfix 9/20
Health and damage have been reduced by 25% on normal difficulty. Health and damage have been reduced by 15% on Heroic difficulty.
Baleroc now swings 25% slower while Decimation Blade is active.
The duration of Tormented has been reduced on normal difficulty.

Kommentar von Cremators

We are doing this fight (normal mode) with 1 tank - feral druid, 2 healers - discipline priest (me) and restoration druid, and 7 dps. One of the dps-ers the furry warrior take 25 stacks, at this point I have like 30% mana and ~ 80 or more stacks, then i switch to the tank and dps-ers start cycling on 8 stacks.

Kommentar von Blackmist

Talk about nerfed.

Just 9 manned this.

Composition was

Arcane Mage (me)
Dwarf Prot Warrior
2xHuman Fury Warrior
Nelf MM Hunter
4xGnomes, forgot specs LOL.

Kited him onto the bridge but there must have been some odd glitch as he fell through it. Clipped me on the way, and I fell too. Nobody else could reach, but he didn't seem to hit me after that. Must have gone way over the enrage limit, but I pretty much solo'd him. Wish I'd logged it now.

Anyway, after he was dead I think I died from a DoT. After ressing, my beard was white for some reason, but was grey before. Couldn't reach the loot either, I'll have to submit a ticket about both those.

Anyway, we managed it just in time to defeat Sauron.

Sincerely,

Gandalf.

Kommentar von Hybr1d

Since someone might find it usefull, I'll repost here, more in-depth 10m heroic tactics:

*Our Setup:
Prot warrior - Mirror + Brewfest Dodge (During deci blade)

Disc priest
Holy paladin
Resto druid

BM hunter
Surv hunter
Boomkin
Demon lock
Feral dps
Fury warrior

Strategy:
Handling shards: First shard was taken by feral in his normal gear and in catform, told him to pop barkskin + surv instincts on 16 stacks. Our healadin used aura mastery on 20, and our disc priest used suppression or barrier on 18.
For all other shards I made 2 groups of 3. So, the 2nd shard (and 4th, 6th, 8th) had the warlock and boomkin, swap places on 12-13 stacks (they could stand "next" to eachother since warlock took first and ported away).
3rd/5th/7th shards were taken by fury and feral, same thing, swap on 12-13 stacks.

Whoever did not have torment took the first one, if neither had torment they went with above rota. The 2 hunters were backup, non-assigned. If a shard came up, I looked at the 2 persons who had to take it and if they had torment, if so I called on vent and ran to it to grab it. If I had torment, I told the other hunter to. Whichever hunter took it first then told who they wanted to take it off them from the original group. Why hunters? Our melee tend to have shards really close making our life difficult + our only defensive cooldown is raptor strike which costs quite some dps in comparison to: surv instincts, barksin, soul link etc. And we have disengage to move faster!

healing: 3-healed. Blew heroism as soon as shard was up, healadin and disc priest spammed the feral *!@#less with cooldown rota described above, while beacon and resto healed the tank. Tank popped cd on first blades. For second shard, lock/druid took and healing remained the same. Then once that shard vanished the disc and paladin swapped to tankhealing and resto to shard healing - this rotation stays the same. If the resto is tormented (happend twice) one healer would assist on shards, unless decimation blade was up, then dps used a cd. That was all, no one died or came close to dying. I think the pala/disc were on >160 after the first 2 shards which lasted through till the end. 19 seconds left on enrage. On second kill with a different healadin he got 110 which was still enough to last the fight.

Addition for healers: Blow your mana cooldowns after the second shard. So in our case, priest would pop hymn since the paladin could easily soloheal with tank being on low stacks. After hymn, paladin used plea (which he kept using during non-blade). Also had the paladin beacon our rogue on second kill due to no damage mitigation to keep him alive for 12-13th tick.

Kommentar von 689829

My group did it with the following configuration
-1 Tank (Druid)
-7 DPS (4 of whom were death knights)
-2 Healers.

The Death Knights were the only ones on the crystals, and they would use Anti-Magic Zone to deal with higher stacks of Torment. The Druid tank was apparently quite well geared with a very high amount of Dodge, enabling him to take both blades.

We managed to defeat him on the first try, although there were two deaths among the DKs from unknown causes (one of whom was battle rezzed), and I had to step into the rotation.

Kommentar von 798034

also another note.. Baelroc is one of the easiest heroic fights in the game if ur healers know what their doing. just be sure ur shard rotation is good (bring a spriest) and a boomkin helps)

then make sure ur dps is pretty high... im gonna guess atleast 24k from every person assuming ur 2 healing it. however heroic baelroc might be a bit higher.

Kommentar von Parc

The shards will spawn on the closest non-tank to Baleroc.

Kommentar von 901088

For anyone tanking the Decimation Blade portion of this fight in 10 or 25-Player Mode I suggest having Mondbrunnenphiole on you whether or not it's the best trinket you have on you. The 1700 Dodge Rating is a ridiculous boost, and on a fairly short CD. If used correctly, timing the use right before first strike lands, you will have the 20 second up-time for the two shots, and if you are so unlucky to get two Decimation Blades in a row, it should still be up for the third consecutive strike.

Best of luck, Teancrumpets-Gilneas

Kommentar von 292829

For all those of you that found flaming gate to Baleroc closed unexpectly after wipe (and didn't kill Alysrazor):

Go for the Alysrazor
Kill the trash there
Pull the boss
Person that is flying during this fight takes the feathers and flies to Baleroc (it's the only possible way to get there AFAIK)
Flyer pulls Baleroc
Gate opened

Kommentar von 798034

Baelroc Heroic:

Just a note: you can spread tormented to anyone near you so be very careful to avoid people when running together for countdown. it can cause raid wipes easily if everyone gets infected and no one can soak up shards.

the DPS check used to be very tight on this boss (no one under 25k 1 tanking it) but post-nerf its around a minimum of 21k i believe. much more lax

I think we finished this fight with 10 or 12 seconds left on the enrage timer.

Kommentar von woohaa

Healers

I did this fight the other day with a resto druid (myself), disc priest, and a very undergeared resto shaman. Generally this is a healer fight so here's some tips to handle the healing.

Starting the fight:
Before the fight designate 2 healers to switch back and forth, making sure they can communicate to one another. We had the druid and disc priest switching. When the fight started the druid healed the tank while the disc priest and shaman built up stacks on the tormented. We did this by popping heroism/bloodlust when the shard dropped and having both of them spamming their fastest heals. Once the shard went away they switched to the tank using only efficient heals and using any mana regen abilities at that point.

1st Switch
When the 2nd shard popped out. The druid would then spam his fastest heals on the tormented. As a druid i popped my tree form which makes regrowth instant cast therefore eliminating the need for a haste CD. Once the shard ended i'd use a mana regen CD and switch to the tank.

Generally, your just using the first 2 shards to build as many stacks as possible WITHOUT having to worry about using def cds to keep players alive. From this point the healers call switch when the shard ends.

Note: The shaman stayed on the tank after his first initial stack build, If your healers are good at communicating he can go ahead and build more stacks later in the fight.

Note 2: After the initial stack build use only efficient heals to keep the tank alive and the tormented players. Using your fast heals anytime after the initial stack builds will cause you to go oom. But make sure to keep the tormented alive. Generally, i spammed my greater heal on them to keep them up.

Note 3: Once your stacks are built...using hots on the tank is good, but keep in mind using hots on tormented DOES NOT build up more stacks which is the reason you need to use greater heals to keep the tormented alive.

Kommentar von Maxan123

10ppl HM restor sham

Kommentar von Teaspoon

This is for 10-man and I haven't been on a 25-man raid since ICC so I have no idea how it would translate...

It seems odd to me how many groups mess with their raid compositions for this fight and have tanks or healers respec to DPS or whatever. We tried 1-tank+3-heal, we tried 2-tank+2-heal, and eventually I stopped and thought about the fight instead of just reading about the weird stuff other people did and we went back to our regular 2-tank+3-heal setup.

3 damage-dealers on crystal duty, two per crystal. Person one stands next to the crystal as it spawns and runs out at 12 stacks. Person two is standing close enough that they get the beam when person one runs out. The crystal despawns after applying 25 torments, so one of them takes 12 stacks and the other takes 13. Crystal two is taken by person three then person one, and crystal three is taken by person two then person three and then it's back to the start.

Each of the three healers is assigned to one of the people on crystal duty. When your guy has a crystal you heal them exclusively, then once they're off the crystal you top them up and swap back to healing the tank. Resto druids need to be aware that they only build up spark stacks from direct heals (regrowth, nourish, healing touch and swiftmend) on the crystal guys, but that once they've converted their sparks to flames with a single direct-heal on the tank they can use their full toolkit to keep the tank up.

The two tanks taunt-juggle half way through each blade phase - between the third and fourth inferno strikes or between the first and second decimating strikes. We did try having an "off" tank taunt to eat the decimations and a "main" tank who taunts back straight after to handle the rest, but my healers have found their jobs much easier if we had two tanks each taking half of it. Rather than one tank going to 20 stacks of blaze to reach 5x health and incoming damage, you get both tanks going to 10 stacks to reach 3x health+damage. The healers stack sparks at their normal speed, so their bonus healing will grow faster than the bonus damage on the tanks and they can settle into cheap-heals mode for their turns at tank-healing.

There's a risk to this tank-juggle method in that the boss gains a stack of incendiary soul for 20% bonus damage on his inferno blades every time he puts a stack of blaze on a tank, so the inferno blade damage will scale faster than tank health and may eventually get dangerous. The couple of times we've killed him this way it's looked like the enrage timer will go off before the inferno blades get deadly, though, as inferno blades are pretty weak to start with and most tanks will have a magic-damage-reduction cooldown (shield block, anti-magic shield, etc) that they can use once per blade phase.

Kommentar von 872543

"You shall not pass!"

Kommentar von setback

wtb sound files

Kommentar von 162742

So right after I got a Shave and a Haircut back when Firelands was first nerfed, I got summoned to mage-tank this in frost spec just for when he did Decimation Blade. It's not hard, the prot pally just bubbled and I was #1 DPS, so aggro got shifted onto me lol. He taunted whenever the fire phase came up. Oh, and just about everyone else was melee dps except for a hunter. 4 of the Gnome rogues sucked lol, bottom dps. So yeah, even though Decimation Blade deals about 90% max health, I just threw up a mana shield after getting some Blaze of Glory stacks and screaming about how I was the "Sacred Fire of Arnor" and some crap about how he'd never kill me with shadow damage. It was a macro, kinda forgot what it said and deleted it after the fight. Prot pally thanked me cause he solo-tanked the rest of the encounter and got a vid on youtube called "Lords of the 1 Ring" or some crap. It got deleted fast though.

My armory is Gáândäãlf, forgot which server though. He was in a guild called The Greybeards, but then I found out from the GL that he changed the name to The White. Quit my sub right after 4.3 came out, Raid Finder sucked cause Blizzard's version of Gondor was some stupid tower in a snowfield. Oh yeah, and he was a Scroll of Resurrection toon also.

Kommentar von Draenors

"By the Firelord's command, U2 shall perish!"

Ragnaros is very serious about his taste in music.

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Baloroc <Der Torwächter>

Dieser NPC befindet sich in Feuerlande .

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Heroisch		Mythisch
Tödlich		Wichtig
Tank		DPS
Heiler		Unterbrechbar
Magie		Fluch
Gift		Krankheit
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Flammeneifer – Balorocs Angriff weckt regelmäßig einen brennenden Funken in seinem aktuellen Ziel, was den von dem Ziel erlittenen körperlichen Schaden um 20% und dessen maximale Gesundheit um 20% erhöht.
Jedes Mal, wenn Baloroc 'Flammeneifer' wirkt, erhält er eine Aufladung 'Brandstiftende Seele'.
- Brandstiftende Seele – Jedes Mal, wenn Baloroc 'Flammeneifer' wirkt, erhält er eine Aufladung 'Brandstiftende Seele', die seinen verursachten Feuerschaden um 20% erhöht.
Splitter der Qual – Baloroc beschwört unter seinen Feinden einen Kristall, der kontinuierlich einen schattenhaften Strahl auf den nächsten Spielercharakter kanalisiert.
In Schlachtzügen für 25 Spieler beschwört Baloroc zwei Kristalle.
- Qual – Der Splitter der Qual fügt pro Anwendung dem nächsten Spielercharakter 4250 Schattenschaden zu. Stapelt sich einmal pro Sekunde.
- Gequält – Wenn 'Qual' von einem Spielercharakter schwindet, wird er mit dem Effekt 'Gequält' belegt, der 1 min lang seinen erlittenen Magieschaden um 500% erhöht und seine hervorgerufene Heilung um 50% verringert.
  [Heroisch] Kommt das Opfer in Nahkampfreichweite eines anderen Spielercharakters, wird dieser ebenfalls mit einem frischen Stapel des Effekts 'Gequält' belegt.
- Welle der Qual – Wenn sich kein Spielercharakter im Umkreis von 15 Metern um einen Splitter der Qual befindet, erzeugt der Splitter diesen Effekt, der allen Spielercharakteren pro Sekunde 38000 to 42000 Schattenschaden zufügt.
- Lebensfunke – Wenn ein Spielercharakter eine direkte Heilung auf einen anderen wirkt, der von 'Qual' betroffen ist, so erhält der Heiler für je drei auf das Ziel wirkende Stapel von 'Qual' eine Aufladung 'Lebensfunke'. Das Wirken eines Einzelziel-Heilzaubers auf einem Ziel, das von 'Flammeneifer' betroffen ist, löst 'Lebensflamme' aus.
  [Heroisch] In Schlachtzügen für 25 Spieler erhält der Heiler für je fünf auf das Ziel wirkende Stapel von 'Qual' eine Aufladung von 'Lebensfunke'.
  - Lebensflamme – Der Effekt 'Lebensflamme' erhöht die auf Ziele gewirkte Heilung, die von 'Flammeneifer' betroffen sind, pro verbrauchtem Stapel 'Lebensfunke' um 5%. Dies hält 15 sec lang an. Wenn der Effekt 'Lebensflamme' endet, stellt er die verbrauchten Stapel von 'Lebensfunke' wieder her, um diesen Effekt zu schaffen.

Balorocs Klingen

Baloroc verstärkt regelmäßig eine seiner Klingen mit Schatten- oder Feuerenergie und schwingt 15 sec lang ausschließlich diese Waffe.

Dezimierende Klinge – Balorocs Nahkampfangriffe verursachen keinen körperlichen Schaden, sondern stattdessen Schattenschaden in Höhe von 90% der maximalen Gesundheit des Ziels (jedoch immer mindestens 250000 Schaden). Diesem Schaden kann weder widerstanden, noch kann er abgeschwächt werden.
So lange dieser Effekt aktiv ist, erhöht sich die Zeit zwischen Balorocs Angriffen um 25%.
Infernoklinge – Balorocs Nahkampfangriffe verursachen keinen körperlichen Schaden, sondern stattdessen 197242 to 207357 Feuerschaden.

Countdown – Baloroc verbindet zwei Spielercharaktere 8 sec lang miteinander. Wenn sich die ausgewählten Ziele näher als 4 Meter kommen, zerstreut sich der Effekt gefahrlos. Wenn der Effekt bis zum Ende besteht, explodieren beide, was allen Spielercharakteren im Umkreis von 100 Metern 125000 Feuerschaden zufügt.

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