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You get Seelenasche by completing Torghast Tower (full run).

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Introduction
Seelenasche is a source of pure energy found in Torghast. We will have the opportunity of getting it ascending through Torghast layers. Each week we will have the opportunity to get a maximum of 2.060 Seelenasche (1030 for each available wing).

After you opened the layer (finish it by killing its floor 5 boss) you open the next higher layer, and any other next wing you do you can go directly to a highest layer opened (e.g. layer 5) and it will reward you the Seelenasche of the layers 5, 4, 3, 2 and 1 altogether. Torghast Layer Unlocks are now account-wide.

Torghast storyline
Torghast storyline quests will award a total of 1150 Seelenasche total, and are awarded once. Gated quests:
- Erkundet Torghast granting 200 Seelenasche.
- Überreste der Hoffnung granting 100 Seelenasche.
- Der Preis der Information granting 50 Seelenasche.
- Folterkammer: Jaina granting 200 Seelenasche.
- Einen Zeugen finden granting 50 Seelenasche.
- Damit die Spur nicht kalt wird granting 50 Seelenasche.
- Folterkammer: Thrall, granting 200 Seelenasche.
- Spuren des Löwen, granting 50 Seelenasche.
- Der gefangene König, granting 250 Seelenasche with kinematic.

A catch-up system is been said to be included, 7 weeks are no longer required to gate these quests.

Command Table
Command/Adventure Table can provide mission from level 18 onwards.

Layers Rewards
Accumulated layers rewards (according to last hotfix, not looted currency will be sent to your mailbox, here):

	Layer 1	Layer 2	Layer 3	Layer 4	Layer 5	Layer 6	Layer 7	Layer 8	Layer 9	Layer 10	Layer 11	Layer 12
Seelenasche	180	330	460	565	655	730	800	860	915	965	1000	1030

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¿Do you need to know which layers you have to do to get a specific amount of Seelenasche?
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Seelenasche
Layer 1	360
Layer 2	510	660
Layer 3	640	790	920
Layer 4	745	895	1025	1130
Layer 5	835	985	1115	1220	1310
Layer 6	910	1060	1190	1295	1385	1460
Layer 7	980	1130	1260	1365	1455	1530	1600
Layer 8	1040	1190	1320	1425	1515	1590	1660	1720
Layer 9	1095	1245	1375	1480	1570	1645	1715	1775	1830
Layer 10	1140	1290	1420	1525	1615	1690	1760	1820	1875	1920
Layer 11	1180	1330	1460	1565	1665	1730	1800	1880	1915	1965	2000
Layer 12	1210	1360	1490	1595	1695	1760	1830	1910	1945	1995	2030	2060
Combine with	L. 1	L. 2	L. 3	L. 4	L. 5	L. 6	L. 7	L. 8	L. 9	L. 10	L. 11	L. 12

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Choose your best combination of layers!

Crafting (and upgrading) Legendaries
Required objects to craft legendaries:
1. Two different Stat Missives (crafted by Scribes).
2. A Rank 1 Base Item of the appropriate level and slot type (an example: here).
3. The required amount of Seelenasche to do/upgrade your legendary:

Rank 1 (190 ilvl): 1.250 x Seelenasche.
Rank 2 (210 ilvl): 2.000 x Seelenasche.
Rank 3 (225 ilvl): 3.200 x Seelenasche.
Rank 4 (235 ilvl): 5.150 x Seelenasche.

Check Seelenglut for Rank 5 & 6 info.

Additionally, if you crafted a lower Rank Legendary, you can upgrade any rank to a higher one by paying the difference in cost and a new base item (meaning: your already-crafted-legendary to update, the required amount of Seelenasche to upgrade it and the Base Item of the Rank desired). Stats are fixed to your first selection.

Rank 1 -> Upgrade to 2: Requires 750 Seelenasche
Rank 1 -> Upgrade to 3: Requires 1950 Seelenasche
Rank 1 -> Upgrade to 4: Requires 3900 Seelenasche
Rank 2 -> Upgrade to 3: Requires 1200 Seelenasche
Rank 2 -> Upgrade to 4: Requires 3150 Seelenasche
Rank 3 -> Upgrade to 4: Requires 1950 Seelenasche

There's a simple Soul Ash calculator, summarizing crafting and upgrading costs:
https://soulash.eu/

As of today, if you are starting to collect Seelenasche from zero with any PJ, it will take four weeks to get the amount of Seelenasche enough to craft a Rank 4 (storyline + repeating 2 wings at a mix of layers 6&7 each week).

Alts
To transfer Seelenasche to alts, Knochenschmiedin Heirmir will appear in Keeper's Respite after you do the fourth part of the Korthia campaign. Gives 250xSeelenasche BoA bags at a cost of 300.

Further Information
If you want to know your current week Torghast log, go in your map to the Maw and put your cursor over the skull.

For info on crafting your first legendary, visit the full article. TLDR, there is no current refund method.

Regarding Torgasht, read this article or this new guide posted in wowhead. And regarding crafting, see the two links in this one.

If you want to know more about th

Kommentar von rgnm

at first week, I could earn 725 at all.. no more.. even finished both wings at level 3..

submitted a ticket and here is the answer...

It’s intended that un-looted soul ash is not postmastered to you. Due to the mechanisms at play in Torghast, with regret customer support are not able to investigate your run in a meaningful way that would allow us to verify any rewards that were, or were not, earned, so we’re sadly not able to provide anything from the run, sorry.

Loot the Boss !

Kommentar von Preheet

Just received a mission at the Command Table with the reward being 119 Soul Ash

Kommentar von Lothania

Does selling the legendary refund the soul ash?

Kommentar von Voyaa

Does disenchanting the legendary refund the soul ash?

Kommentar von Delvi

Cumulative Seelenasche per level:

Update:
If you need specific amount of Soul Ash you can check which pair or levels will yield you that amount or more:

Level 2

Level 4

Level 6

Level 8

Level 1	Level 2	Level 3	Level 4	Level 5	Level 6	Level 7	Level 8
Level 1	240
340	440
Level 3	425	525	610
495	595	680	750
Level 5	555	655	740	810	870
605	705	790	860	920	970
Level 7	650	750	835	905	965	1015	1060
690	790	875	945	1005	1055	1100	1140

Kommentar von oresteia

I crafted correct legendary power (210 ilvl) for wrong slot(Hands) item. I thought: "same power, doesn't matter...".
Then I made 4 mythic dungeon weekly quest that offers 213 HC gear. I've got 213 hands. I knew how unlucky I was but this was a new level for me. I said "f..k it" and spent another 1250 soul ash (190ilvl) for same power but head piece this time so I can use that 213ilvl hand piece.
My point is, I'd love to have a refund. At least with 25% cut etc... Cause Blizz is still nerfing, changing a lot of things. Wrong slot legendaries, wrong powers, wrong covenants can happen. I mean it's really easy to make a mistake and cost is too big. I'd like to see a refund option like adding a disenchant ability to runecarver dude and getting only 75% soul ashes you spent on legendary. It's not hard and it would be much better. I am not even mentioning 40-200k base item cost and 2-3k missive costs for leather pieces in draenor-eu.

Kommentar von Kinzigwow

After I upgraded my Legendary to 235, is there a reason to keep running weekly Torghast for Soul Ash?

Kommentar von Lantokk

There's a catch up mechanism for obtaining soul ash from the quest lines, but it appears that there is no way to recover from underfarming Torghast. Am I correct on that? Are players who were unable to make the time at the beginning of the xpac or due to holidays or other RL obligations simply SOL/out of luck? Miss a week for any reason and forever lose out on that soul ash?

The missions are anima-expensive (due to leveling the followers and so on) and take time to work up to, so they're not really helpful, especially with such small returns.

Kommentar von Aisenfaire

When Torghast was new, people reported that if they didn't loot the last boss in Torghast and therefore missed the soul ash, Blizzard CS was unable to recover the soul ash for them so it was just gone.

It looks now like they implemented a system in the game itself to fix this issue:

Soul Ash should be looted manually at the end of the run.

If you aren't able to loot your Soul Ash, your character will receive it on their next login. However, it will not be delivered by the Postmaster - it will automatically be applied instead, and show in your chat log that it was received.

Soul Ash can not be recovered by Customer Support.

from: https://us.battle.net/support/en/article/277637

This actually did work for me, as I noticed I didn't receive the soul ash and found the support article. I relogged and did indeed have my soul ash increase upon checking.

Kommentar von mistadabolina

is there any command to see how much i have earned this week .. like there are with killing bosses etc?

Kommentar von mtmf

~~Did they just remove the cap on Soul Ash without saying anything?~~

Nevermind, they just announced the hotfix.

Kommentar von Tahuma

With the constant tuning of legendaries, and fact it takes three weeks to get a legendary that is essentially the same ilv as timing a mythic+15 weekly vault reward/mythic boss drop, the soul ash system feels like complete ass. I love Torghast, but doing Torghast only for soul ash on classes that don't perform too great is.. awful. And it's a 3 week time gate. I have two more legendaries to craft. Another if I heal. And then another two if I PvP.

It's better than legion (for me) since legendaries aren't RNG. But still.

I'm dying.

Kommentar von DiveToDie

how we can transfer this to alts?

Kommentar von Jaredius

When you have too many currencies, halfway through an expac half of them become obsolete despite continuing to earn more. I'd like something useful to purchase with my 50k+ soul ash toward end-game main toon power. I'd like to see them develop more content and encourage focus on a single, end-game toon instead of adding more alt-friendly catch up systems that we already have too much of. I don't play alts. I suspect a large minority of other players don't either. Reward that play-style for a change and keep us subscribed through the second half of an expac.

Kommentar von drndara

There is an option to get soul essence back from legendary items.
Go to Runecarver and pick an option "I'd like to reclaim the soul essence from one of my legendary items"
Ask's you to destroy item with 5 second confirmation dialog.

Kommentar von Kilrathi3

Being a currency, there should be at least a few more things to spend this on..
toys?
pets?
mounts?
Xmog stuff?

but, alas...

Kommentar von Vigholm

Should defnitely add like:
-1 toy for 20k soul ash
-1 pet for 50k soul ash
-1 mount for 100k soul ash

Nothing devastatingly unique but something recognizeable and relevant, to sink your ash to :) There should ALWAYS be a sink for currencies that come in abundance even after all the useful items have been bought. Otherwise these "legendary sources of power" start feeling like unwanted trash that just fill your extradimensional pockets to no end.

Kommentar von Voxxel

I don't know why is Beutel voller erkundeter Seelen not listed here as a source but it gives

5150 Seelenasche
1650 Seelenglut

for a price of 3000 Kosmischer Flux. The vendor Vilo is located at Zereth Mortis' main base.

Kommentar von sivla

regarding torghast are you meant to get rewards for running it? aside from soul ash, because i have never got a thing!

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Seelenasche

Eine Rohenergiequelle, die in Torghast gefunden werden kann. Treibt die Kammer des Runenmetzes an.

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Torghast Overview Upgrading Legendaries How to Obtain Soul Ash in Shadowlands Korthia and the Maw Comprehensive Guide Reservoir Anima in Shadowlands The Enlightened

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