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Kommentar von Neophyte

Rogue-Arena set for Season #2.

Kommentar von 42268

Are they going to change the look of new arena set different than season 1?

Kommentar von 40569

Wow, 10 energy is back.

Kommentar von 31120

Blizzard recently announced, and wowinsider among other sites report, that a rating reset will occur. That means that all teams will return to the default 1500 arena rating to duke it out all over again in efforts to return to the top. Arena points, however, will be retained.

http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/05/10/arena-news-new-items-every-season/

Kommentar von 54074

i just had a look and i can't figure this one out

Rogue set armor:

new: 1740 old: 1579

Priest set armor:

new: 1837 old: 840

warlock set armor:

new: 1837 old: 840

i know agility gives armor too, but that's a really big step up in armor for a "cloth wearing" class wouldn't you say?

not to sound like a whiner, but it's not like they add resistances to pvp gear for melee classes to cope with spells is it?

Kommentar von starshot

link to set pic on PTR server
www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2007/june/a2_rogue.jpg

Kommentar von 41676

Hello!

Arena Season #2 set for Rogue. It looks like Tier 5 for this class:
http://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2007/june/a2_rogue.jpg

4 pieces bonus is just great. 120 energy is back! Last thing what I need is 2.9 speed weapon from honor. ;)

Cost in Arena points:
*Gloves: 1125
*Head: 1875
*Legs: 1875
*Chest: 1875
*Shoulders: 1500

Some simple maths:
(without sockets)
178 Agility = 356 armor, 4,45 crit%, 12,3 dodge%, 178 AP,
265 Stamina = 2650hp
184 AP
81 crit rating = 3,66 crit%
139 (+35bonus) resilence = -4,42crit%/-8,83 crit.dmg%

Total: (without sockets and enchants)
2046 Armor
2650 Hit Points
12,3% Dodge
-4,42 Attacker's Critical Hit chance/-8,83 Attacker's Critical Damage

362 Attack Power
+8,11 Critical Hit Chance

But remember that deep combat/subtley speced rogues will have better stats. (Sinister Calling and Vitality talents )

My proposition for sockets and enchants (for people who don't raid Black Temple or Hyjal):
Sockets:
Head:
*Meta: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32409
*Red: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28362
Chest:
*Red: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30574
*Red: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28363
*Yellow: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30592
Shoulder:
*Red: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30574
*Yellow: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30592
Neck (from honor, http://www.wowhead.com/?item=33057):
*Yellow: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28119

Some combat rogues can prefer put +parry gems, like http://www.wowhead.com/?item=24036. :)

Enchants:
*Gloves: http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=25080
*Head: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=29192
*Chest: http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=33992#z0z
*Legs: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=29536
*Shoulder: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28910 or http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28888 (prefer Scryers enchant)

IMO it's great set. :D

~Szatek

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Kommentar von DecoyBob

Costs for Season 2 gear are the same as Season 1. However, Season 1 items have had their costs reduced. The costs for Season 2 gear are 1875 Arena Points for the helm, chest, and legs, 1500 for the shoulders, and 1125 for the gloves.

Kommentar von skelitor

so can the season #1 set still be obtained then?

Kommentar von 75355

This is THE coolest rogue set ever! With this armor on you cant be seen in stealth, as in they can target you. but they just see a shadow on the ground and no you. I stealth around all the time in this, all I see is a shadow on the ground, sometimes i just take off the helm and there's a floating face. xD

Kommentar von 86834

This is the second arena set for rogues. It came out with the second arena season (june 20). Of course you need to be 70 to wear this set and you get it fighting in rated arena matches. The 4/5 bonus is like the Nightslayer 5/8 bonus.
but still, it's up to you whether this is worth it to get,

and if you think it's too difficult, well...you can always

take the easy route and get it fast at: url]

http://www.yehforgames.com/wow/pvp/rogue.htm

Kommentar von bornhj

Note that, as of 2.3, the three seasons of Arena gear will all count towards the same set bonus. That is, if you have 3 pieces of Season Two gear, and 1 piece of Season Three gear, you will still get the 4-piece set bonus (in this case, +10 max energy).

Kommentar von 50025

is Ture that with s4 this will be like s1 and you can get it with honor?

hope its just a lie

Kommentar von 111762

Has Blizz said when S4 will begin and if S1 will still be available with honor or will it be trashed?

Also, what boots, belt, and bracers are good to get with S2 gear?

Kommentar von 86342

In 2.4 They are going to Bring out a Superior Quality PvP Set From Rep Vendors
It is not Part of the Gladiator Tiers so you can have 2 Seperate +35 Resiliance if you feel you need to

My Opinion: Only get if you have under 4 or 5 pieces of Gladiator Gear. If you have
for Example 3/5 Glad ... use a Couple of Pieces to make up the Resilience.
But this New Set will be Affordable and A Small Effort to Aquire.

Link - http://www.wowhead.com/?itemset=745

Kommentar von 159356

If you're like me, you're an under geared rogue. With S4 coming out some time in the forseeable future, I'll be looking to use some spare honor points to upgrade my PvE DPS. Now, assuming NO heroic gear, the order you should be looking at to upgrade are:

Merciless Gladiator's Shiv

I use mutilate, so of course I'm gonna get the daggers. Just substitute whatever weapon spec you use instead :) Remember, weapon boosts are generally the largest DPS increase for physical DPS classes, so nabbing the S2 weapons should be priority number 1.

Next are the armor upgrades:

Merciless Gladiator's Leather Spaulders

Merciless Gladiator's Leather Tunic

Merciless Gladiator's Leather Helm

Keep in mind that the real draw here is the shoulders. They provide a ~3 DPS increase over Expedition Scout's Epaulets with 2 +8 Hit gems. The helm and chest are more DPS sidegrades against the average rogue gear Helm of the Claw and Hauberk of Karabor, respectively. Both the HoC and HoK are relatively easy to get for beginning 70 rogues, but if you're having trouble finding groups for them, the gladiator gear will more than cover it.

Fel Leather Leggings or Leggings of the Betrayed are better than the S2 legs, as are Fel Leather Gloves better than the S2 hands. You're better off saving those honor points for the +20 AP gem.

Again, keep in mind that this is only for the starter rogue and only for PvP'ing for PvE upgrades. If you're looking to get a foothold when starting an arena team, by all means get all the gear and wreck some faces :)

EDIT: I forgot to mention the ranged weapon: Merciless Gladiator's War Edge. This is ~.2 DPS upgrade over Felsteel Whisper Knives. Keep in mind though that the War Edge is the lowest DPS upgrade out of all the viable PvP options, so you should leave that one for last.

Kommentar von 159356

Shiv vs Shanker....

First there is only one sheet that kinda supports mutilate.
Secondly it has been deemed inconclusive at best for Muti specs due to the complexity that sealfate adds (the cycle becomes inconsistent and thus not a true cycle).

Yes, there is only one sheet that considers Mutilate, and it overvalues Seal Fate. However, since Dontmindme has the only sheet, it's become the basis to make these claims. If there was another sheet out there that completely blew away shiv, then I'd gladly retract my statements.

Third, with a Muti spec there are no talents that would give you an increase in dps from a faster OH. The only thing that could effect this would be DP stacks however unless your DP is falling off much it shouldnt be a problem as you shouldnt use envenom anyways.

True, there is nothing about a fast offhand mutilate that should give you higher DPS, but I only report what the spreadsheet tells me.

Fourth unless you are talking about other sheets then Aldrianas and Dontmindmes sheets then only one of those support it and it yields A dps increase when using shanker instead of shiv(thats in both sample T6 and T4).

Using a naked rogue and a T4 sample, the Shiv was still better for me. I can't explain the discrepancy for our T4 differences, I try to keep mine updated but there's a good chance it slipped through the cracks.

Sure i can understand the pvp reasons but dont spread BS about rogue crafting.
Also posting absolute values derived from a sheet isnt truth its what your set up of talents/buffs/gear would yield.

You are sort of right here, and I will admit a mistake by me. I left debuffs under what my Kara group can do. Adding sunder armor and CoR makes the shanker better. However, those two taken out produces higher DPS by shiv. Also, a rogue with no debuffs or buffs and in T4 sample gear has shiv doing better than shanker, make of it what you will.

I used absolute values to give a real number to the DPS. I know its not accurate for any rogue but me or those in identical gear and talent placement, but it provides a figure to work off of. Simply saying that one is better than the other carries very little weight by itself, posting numbers lets me substantiate those ideas.

I work hard to not spread "BS about rogue crafting", and although what I said was still true under specific circumstances (raid composition oriented), I realize it is not true 100% of the time. Therefore, I will delete my previous post (this doesn't mean I'm trying to weasel my way out of an argument or admitting defeat. Talk to me elsewhere and I'll be glad to keep going :)

Kommentar von 168818

Comparison to Season 1 Gladiator's Vestments set:
+161 Armor
+19 Agility
+30 Stamina
+11 Resilience
+28 Attack Power
+12 Crit Rating

Kommentar von 160769

What are the matching boots, bracers and belt?

Kommentar von 253093

Good gear..but its pointless to get now that WOTLK is out

Kommentar von 397264

5/5 SII arena set..

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Exodar&n=Deathsreject

Kommentar von alekfyne

The latest information is that this stuff is available at level 70 at Isle quel danas and you need tokens to buy it. I looked for it at SW champ Hall but Blizzard moved the stuff to this little island. Wy i cant understand because in the champ hall is all the other stuff including S4 and S5 material. maybe someone else can explain why. You need to
tokens ...of the vanquisher....to buy M. gladiator stuff and not Honor or Marks.

So maybe someone can explain what you do buy with at level 70 with Honor points and marks from BG's?

Kommentar von 937387

ill never figure out why i cant submit screenshots on this site..

Kommentar von 1012618

The best set ever. I was very happy when the Blizzard made the transmogrifier and and you were able to buy this set again, this is just... perfect (Y)

Kommentar von 1055989

Very nice for Transmog, i still love this set.

as of 5.0.1 cost around 9k Honor point in Area 52(Netherstorm, Outland)

Kommentar von 924453

A word of warning, the helm fits a female blood elf very poorly. The front looks decent, but the back of the hood is oversized and makes the character look like a bobble-head.

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Gewänder des erbarmungslosen Gladiators

Gewänder des erbarmungslosen Gladiators ist das Arena-Set Saison 2. Es enthält 5 Teile. Hat einen Set Bonus bei 4 Teilen.

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