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Kommentar von defektunge

The new mana potions in Legion. The recipe has ranks, but they just help you make more with the same materials, and doesn't actually improve the potions.

Kommentar von Aaahead

Rank 1 recipe lets you make potions with 5Yserallinensamen and a Kristallphiole each at the Dalaran Alchemy Station.

Rank 2 recipe lets you make them with the same mats, but without being at the Dalaran Alchemy Station. The recipe is given to you by chance while crafting rank 1 potions.

Rank 3 recipe lets you make them with the same mats, but gives a chance to create an estimated 1 to 19 extra potions per crafting, if it works like the Uralter Heiltranks. Usually you get no extras, or one extra; 19 is the most reported in the healing potion comments so far. I've crafted a couple hundred healing potions with rank 3, and average 1.5 potions per crafting. In other words, if you have mats for 100, you should get about 150 pots. The recipe is given to you by chance while crafting rank 2 potions.

Obliterating potions: Uralter Manatranks can be obliterated if you have an Obliterum Forge, although Uralter Heiltrank takes 4 Yseralline Seeds instead of 5, so are cheaper to make unless you have the rank 3 spell for the mana pot and the rank 2 spell for the health pot. You obtain an average of 1.5 Obliterumaschees per potion, and need 100 ashes per obliterum. It's rather tedious to obliterate hundreds of potions, but depending on the cost of materials for other obliterum sources on your realm, this may be among the cheapest options.

Sample Obliterum cost analysis using Uralter Heiltranks: As of September 10, 2016, Yserallinensamen cost around 20 gold each across realms, making the cost of a rank 2 pot 100g (5x20g), and the cost of a rank 3 pot 66.6g (5x20g/1.5). You'll need to obliterate on average 66.6 pots to get 100 Obliterumaschees, so one Obliterum from rank 2 pots would cost 6660 gold (100x66.6g), and one Obliterum from rank 3 pots would cost 4436 gold (66.6x66.6g). With Obliterums costing nearly 5000-6000 gold on many realms right now, that could be a decent savings/profit margin. Remember though, obliterating is time consuming. It takes 2-3 clicks per obliteration depending on how you do it, with slight delays for the game to process the actions, so making several obliterums might drive you nuts.

Kommentar von Colderthancold

I can confirm rank 2 comes from making mana potions.

Kommentar von Chiq

Got rank 3 healing potion after making approx 40 rank 2 ones.
Mana potion I'll guess proc happened after >300, and from what I've heard that is luckier than average. Don't give up!
Don't know if they approve my screenshot due to bad quality, but for non-believers here it is:
https://postimg.org/image/61dzpciz1/

Kommentar von Sindarian

I keep getting "you can't use this item" when I try to use ancient mana potion (rank 1). There is no text indicating that this is class or spec or whatever constrained and yet it won't let me use my pots. I found an interesting possibility as to why this may be. I'm a Shadow Priest and thus, technically my Insanity bar has priority over mana and so the code doesn't think I use mana and thus doesn't let me use it. So I switched to my Fire Mage who does have mana right below health and tried using the pot. That worked! So I imagine that if your class has a non-mana bar right under your health bar, but still uses mana, this pot won't work. I don't know if this is by design or not. It seems like an obvious bug to me, but Blizzard has really started doing whatever the F they want no matter how much people complain, like being unable to progress with class or professions unless you do dungeons, so their view is to arrogantly tell a significant percent of their customers to go to hell.

Kommentar von Yotingo

Cost analysis for Obliterating:

Oblierating Uralter Manatrank
Ingredients:
5x Yserallinensamen = 50 gold
1x Kristallphiole = negligible

Makes about 1.5x Obliterumasche each.
Est. Gold Value per Obliterum = 3,750 gold

Advantages: Yseralline Seeds are cheap as well as easy to harvest. You get them on most Broken Isles herb nodes. This recipe at Rank 3 also has a chance to proc and create more potions, potentially lessening your total cost.
Disadvantages: clicking muscles will cry, costs more seeds than Uralter Heiltrank

As compared to...

Obliterating Infernaler Alchemistenstein
Ingredients:
1x Infernoschwefel = 200 gold
5x Teufelswurz = 1,500 gold
3x Blut von Sargeras = Unbuyable, est. 450 gold in value

Makes about 140x Obliterumasche each.
Est. Gold Value per Obliterum: 1,536 gold

Advantages: Clicking muscles will be happy! Relatively cheap if you have the Bloods.
Disadvantages: Must gather Blut von Sargeras on your own, must rely on other player (or sufficiently leveled miner of your own) to obtain Infernoschwefel.

Obliterating Trank der verlängerten Macht
Ingredients:
1x Blut von Sargeras = Unbuyable, est. cost 150 gold
10x Kristallphiole = negligible
(This produces 10 potions each.)

Makes about 1.5x Obliterumasche each.
Estimated Gold Value per Obliterum = 1,125 gold

Advantages: You probably have a ton of Bloods lying around, making this cost less than 2 gold (the cost of the vials) for each Obliterum!
Disadvantages: clicking muscles will cry, lots of time invested into gathering if you don't have the Bloods already

Obliterating Uralter Heiltrank
Ingredients:
4x Yserallinensamen = 40 gold
1x Kristallphiole = negligible

Makes about 1.5x Obliterumasche each.
Est. Gold Value per Obliterum = 3,000 gold

Advantages: Yseralline Seeds are cheap as well as easy to harvest. You get them on most Broken Isles herb nodes. This recipe at Rank 3 also has a chance to proc and create more potions, potentially lessening your total cost. Cheapest method without relying on gathering your own resources.
Disadvantages: clicking muscles will cry

Obliterating Fläschchen des geflüsterten Pakts or Fläschchen des Siebten Dämons
Ingredients:
7x Sternlichtrose = 280 gold
10x first herb (see individual recipes) = 200 gold
10x second herb = 200 gold
1x Kristallphiole = negligible

Makes about 4x Obliterumasche each.
Est. Gold Value per Obliterum: 17,000 gold

Disadvantages: Simply not cost effective! Clicking muscles crying only slightly less than with the potions.

Obliterating Fläschchen der zahllosen Armeen or Fläschchen der zehntausend Narben
Ingredients:
7x Sternlichtrose = 280 gold
10x Aethril = 150 gold
10x other herb = 200 gold
1x Kristallphiole = negligible

Makes about 4x Obliterumasche each.
Est. Gold Value per Obliterum: 15,750 gold

Advantages: Aethril is slightly cheaper currently than other herbs, so these flasks cost less to make than the other kinds.
Disadvantages: Simply not cost effective! Clicking muscles crying only slightly less than with the potions.

Obliterating Geisterkessel
Don't do it. Just don't. You only get 4-9 Obliterumasche each. Even your clicking muscles won't be happy with you.

Kommentar von MapleWarrior

Today I went for the gusto, and bought all the Yseralline Seeds I could find, and proceeded to craft them at the Dalaran Alchemy Station until I got the Level 2 recipe.

It took 250 potions to do so, but I got the recipe.

Kommentar von NRieh

How come legion aincient mana potion gives LESS mana than draenic one?.. Is it a tooltip bug or a squishing "artifact"? Legion - 733 mana ilv 45, draenor - 900 ilv 40?.. wtf?

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