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Kommentar von Leyasha

Anscheind momentan verbuggt. Nicht in den Gebiten nutzen in dennen man sie sammeln kann. Habe schon 5 verloren dadurch. Sammeln und dann am besten zu Aviana und sie dort benutzen. Hoffe es wird bald gefixt.

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Kommentar von Sqqueeky

Gained using Elfenbeinfarbene Klaue or Elfenbeinfarbene Feder

If starting at neutral and *fingers crossed* one per kill, that's only 420 kills to exalted.

Ten naked guildies, a close graveyard, 21 empty bagslots = win

Kommentar von Getafx

Is anyone else finding this item bugged?

In that I used one to get the rep and got nothing. Hoping they fix this soon.

Kommentar von Shimara

To get marks, you need the killing blow. And after getting a mark from one player they get a 10 minute debuff, which means you cant get another mark from them for 10 minutes. Which is to avoid players being farmed.

EDIT: I recommend keeping these marks in your bag, and wait till Darkmoon Faire is up. Get the rep buff and use them.

Kommentar von abhorsen1988

If you're hoping to use these in Draenor with a level 3 Trading Post, don't bother. They do not benefit from the building's reputation bonus.

Kommentar von Njaaa89

When you reach honored and get the item that can be used in Battlegrounds, that's when the real fun starts.
You get a mark of prey from everything you kill, whether it be players, pets, totems, enemy NPCs or neutral NPCs.
So doing this in AV will take no time at all.

Kommentar von Kamir92

The Darkbrul Arena in Highmountain is perfect for farming these marks until you get honored.
With the red skull buff you can almost oneshot some players and in a bad situation you can hide yourself in the black fog (100% dodge), so nobody can kill you.

I also did the Falcosaur WQ in Azsuna and Hightmountain, because sometimes the are no players doing the Darkbrul Arena WQ but before leaving the arena try to server hop.

During the Falcosaur Worldquests I tried to find some players in less crowded areas, who where busy killing mobs and after killing them I simply jumped to the next server.

A Skirmish resets the CD of Elfenbeinfarbene Klaue

Kommentar von zephirdd

When you kill a player outdoors, he will be debuffed with Gejagt making it so you can't farm the same player over and over.

Kommentar von lalkzo

374 Mark of Prey is required, to get exalted if having a 10% reputation increase buff.

Kommentar von Decyde

Did this entire thing in about 2 1/2 hours.

Get a priest and have them go holy then use another person to rez the priest. I personally just ran them back every time at a Falcosaur WQ spot but rezzing would have been a lot faster.

You can chain kill the priest and click off the spirit form, rez and repeat.

I'm not sure if this is a bug or working as intended but I'm going to say it's working as intended.

After 80 kills, go get the Ivory Feather and head to Ashran and kill all the little things all over the place. Make sure you don't aoe them down at the same time as it's bugged and kills at the same time only yield 1 Mark.

Kommentar von TheronShadowstor

Once you get the Elfenbeinfarbene Feder, you may want to try Ashran. Now bear in mind, your mileage may vary. But if your a strong range, can get your hands on the AA and are willing to flask, you can unleash some mayhem and land quite a few killing blows. Been in there for a few hours, left with 17600 rep.

Edit: This can also "stack" with Eid des Feuerwächters, so if you're going to grind in Ashran, might as well get your Blutige Münze while you're at it.

Kommentar von ZeeAUS

If you get the killing blow on low level characters in the WQ areas, you will not get a Mal der Beute. I killed a lvl 100 and the WQ progress bar went up, yet no mark. Have done this a few times and no mark each time.

If anyone has different results from 101-109 please reply to this comment.

Kommentar von evilpresence

Question: Can you group with another person who is farming the Mal der Beute and will they show as being friendly? Clearly based on comments, only the person with the killing blow will get the Mal der Beute but I'm looking at is as someone who does not prefer to PVP but needs the rep bar full.

Kommentar von dillybar

Before you put in a ton of work to get this done, understand a few things about this faction and the differences between this and that of the Bloody Coins and achievements you could get as an Emissary of Ordos on Timeless Isles:

1) ONLY other players give Marks of Prey. Any talk about "Go do Alterac Valley, kill NPC's" is not valid, this changed in early December.
2) Easiest way to get Marks of Prey? NOT battlegrounds. Go to the falcosaur zones. Because it is a non-pvp zone, many players are not prepared for your attack. Yes, it is kind of a cheap shot, but you are an assassin working for Aviana now, remember? And you are trying to save the Falcosaurs. At least, you can tell yourself that while you enjoy all the anger aimed at you in General Chat.
3) Unlike Timeless Isle Bloody Coin gathering "Fire Watcher", there is no permanent title associated with this faction. Only temporary while you are under the effect of Ivory Talon or Ivory Feather. You do not get this title upon becoming exalted (which makes no sense).
4) Also unlike Bloody Coins, there are no achievements associated with this faction, so no general or guild announcement that shows anyone your dedication to the grind upon getting exalted. This means no achievement to link at all to show at a later date in trade or guild chat. Rather disappointing really.
5) Bloody Coins were used as currency for 42 items. Marks of Prey offer 100 reputation for the Talon's Vengeance, upon achieving 1000 into exalted, there is no benefit to continually gathering them. Other than items that help you in PVP to get more Marks of Prey, the Ivory Hawkstrider mount is the only item associated with this faction that you can get.
6) Yes, you do get a mount. It does look remarkably like the Swift White Hawkstrider that drops in Magister's Terrace, but other than its rarity, it is a rather underwhelming mount. Plus this one cost you 10,000 gold to purchase it upon getting exalted.

Cliff notes: No achievements, no permanent titles, no way to show off your Talon's Vengeance faction status other than an ugly mount. A little disappointing, but I guess you get personal satisfaction if you are a "completist" like myself.

Kommentar von gozcubukcu

I found out the best place to farm then are in the Black Rook Arena. There is a balcony where you can hide and dot players from above.
The balcony can be only acessed by gliding down from the bridge above.

Kommentar von 1431813

I don't log into wowhead very often to post but I feel like I should add a few comments for this item. In my personal experience as a very casual pvp'er, getting the first 70 or so to hit honored is not that fast or easy. The bareback brawl world quest is great if you can find the rare dragon 'Stormtalon'. I have found the dragon several times when the WQ was not up but it is pretty useless then. During the world quest ( i have tried 10 different times it was up), I have only found him once. This took 30 minutes of realm hopping and running back and forth. For those glorious 5 minutes, you can blast away, as ranged, and I was able to get 11 marks during the 5 minute duration. Was it worth the 30 minutes to find it and the several hours spent on other days trying to find Stormtalon, probably not. If you attempt to use your talon without stormtalon, expect a small number of kills before you become the prey and quickly lose your buff. The two other zones (darkbrul arena and blackrook rumble) were no good in my opinion. In both, the other players are expecting to pvp and getting rolfstomped after only one kill was very likely.

I had the most luck with the warden tower pvp areas. If a world quest is up, there are usually a small number of players going after the reward.....more so if the reward is AP or marks of honor. They don't usually expect to have to pvp so you get a lot of undergeared players killing the NPC's to finish the quest. If the WQ is in a zone that is part of the daily emissary, there are usually quite a few players if the reward is decent like artifact power. I simply started each one by realm hopping until I saw a player then ambushed him with my fire mage burst. Most of the time, it resulted in an easy kill. Make use of the NPC's in the area. Other players don't expect you to be neutral to them and they end up getting attacked by them as well. Keep hopping until you find more players to kill.

Once honored, get the Ivory feather and go to ashran. I know the queue is long...I spent 40 minutes in it today but it is worth it. Essentially, you have a 40 vs 40 brawl and if you are ranged you can stay back and pick off targets with low health. My first time in I kept my buff up for 30 minutes straight and managed to get 13 marks in that time frame. Of course, we had a good leader and the team followed instructions....your mileage may vary. I am not exalted yet but I will keep running ashran to farm marks of prey based on my experience so far.

One last thing, if you queue up an arena skirmish it resets your ivory talon cooldown. It may or may not help you depending on how long that queue takes to pop. Don't be that guy that joins just to reset the buff and leave. Stick around for the fight which will not last very long. You never know, you may actually win!

Kommentar von Mertarus

I can confirm that, after reaching 999/1000 exalted, this item does nothing so you can safely delete your Ivory Talon/Feather, as there is no practical use from getting more marks of prey.

I thought they would start giving AP or something after reaching full rep, but no...

Kommentar von Brr99

While the 2 items to farm these aren't toy's yet. Keep in mind that the bloody coin version of these items (in MoP) both weren't toys to begin with either. I'd keep 2 spaces in your bank for them once you're done - if you have room =D

Edit: There are a lot of good suggestions on this page for farming marks. I want to give you my best 2 places.

1 is already mentioned here - Stormtalon during Bareback Brawl in Stormheim.

the 2nd place is also the same location - however, its when the Stormheim invasion up and the bareback brawl area is a WQ zone. you can get 6 hours of fairly easy marks here during that as people are bringing their undergeared alts through. Gotta do what you gotta do for the final exalted mount.

Have fun

Kommentar von Arborealis

Was the holy priest trick fixed? I tried it yesterday with a guildie and someone to rez them and it didn't work.

This is such a frustrating grind. I think I'm having the most luck with Stormtalon and the Bareback Brawl WQ but it's slow going all around.

Kommentar von Purgatorywolf

so, I've been slowly working on this rep for a while now, and today was the first time I've ran into an issue. I killed a 110 Blood DK, and was given mo mark. I then killed a priest and hunter, and got marks for both. Then I killed the DK twice more, and still no mark, and he did NOt have the hunted debuff either. I'm wonder if the Purgatory ability is blocking a proper killing blow credit?

Kommentar von jjanchan

I thought I would compile some information on the Rache der Kralle and methods pertaining to reputation grinding.

Rache der Kralle is a "hidden" faction, with no associated Achievement or Feat of Strength, and no permanent Titles. The one reason to grind reputation with this faction is for the Elfenbeinfarbener Falkenschreiter mount, available at Exalted reputation. This mount is essentially a less armored version of the Schneller weißer Falkenschreiter which drops from Kael'thas Sonnenwanderer in Terrasse der Magister (a Burning Crusade dungeon) on Heroic difficulty.

This makes this mount mostly sought after for completists and/or mount collectors.

Accessing the Faction

To access this faction, first you must complete one of the four questlines granted by your falcosaur pets - Düsterschnabeljunges, Blutstarrerjunges, Scharfkrallenjunges, or Schneefederjunges. Only one of the questlines must be completed to gain access to Rache der Kralle, but it is likely you will want to complete all four questlines anyway as they each grant a mount on completion.

After having completed a questline and obtaining the mount, you must summon said mount in front of Aviana at in Der Hochberg. For those without coordinates, she can be found at Sylvan Falls, due east and across the water from the Sylvan Falls flight point (northwest of Riverbend on the map).

Once you have summoned your mount and spoken to Aviana, she will have a number of dialogue prompts that you must click through. After you have selected "I will be the talons of vengeance", you unlock access to the Rache der Kralle Quartermaster - Kinkerlitz, a raven that is sitting on the large statue of the archer near Aviana.

After this point, you will have continued access to Kinkerlitz, regardless of what mount you use thereafter or what reputation you are with the faction.

What does the faction offer?

Kinkerlitz's inventory is as follows:

Item	Reputation Required	Cost	Description
Elfenbeinfarbene Klaue	-		Become an avenger of Aviana. While transformed, you are hostile to all players, and killing players grants Marks of Prey. Can only be used in falcosaur and PvP World Quest areas, and flags the user for PvP. (15 Min Cooldown).
Wiedergekäutes Blatt	Neutral		Use: Eat the leaf, restoring 10% of maximum health every 3 sec. for 30 sec. Only usable in Broken Isles. Unique (10). (3 Min Cooldown).
Tasche mit Zweigen	Friendly		Build a nest that allows resting and lasts for 5 min. If you spend at least 5 seconds resting you will become well-rested and gain 3% to all stats for 1 hour. Can only be used in Broken Isles. Unique (5). (5 Min Cooldown).
Elfenbeinfarbene Feder	Honored		Transform into an avenger of Aviana. PvP kills made while transformed have a chance to grant Marks of Prey. Only usable in Battlegrounds and Ashran. (10 Min Cooldown).
Zersplitterter Falkosaurierschnabel	Revered		Use: Increases chance to deal and take a Critical Strike by 50% for 15 sec. Only usable in Falcosaur and PvP World Quest areas. (3 Min Cooldown).
Elfenbeinfarbener Falkenschreiter	Exalted		Mount. Ground mount only.

Notes:

Wiedergekäutes Blatt

Can be used in combat, making it great for World PvP.
Grants a Heal-over-time that lasts 30 seconds.
DOES NOT share a cooldown with Uralter Heiltrank or Healthstone.
DOES share a cooldown with all combat potions (Trank der verlängerten Macht, Trank des Alten Krieges, etc.), Uralter Manatrank, and Uralter Verjüngungstrank.

Tasche mit Zweigen

Can only be used in outdoor Broken Isles areas, and WILL NOT work in raid or dungeon instances.

This item DOES work on the Broken Shore.

Allows you to change talents and instantly log off, like any rested area.

Can be VERY useful for changing talents outside of an instance (i.e. before a Mythic+ run, raid, etc.)

You must stand right on top of the nest or immediately next to it to be rested.
If you stand on the nest for 5 seconds, you are granted the Gut erholt buff for 60 minutes (Spell ID: 230390)

The Gut erholt buff WILL NOT be refreshed if you stand on the nest and already have the buff! You must manually unclick it before standing on the nest to get a fresh 60 minute buff.
Gut erholt DOES NOT persist upon hearthing, even if using Dalaranruhestein.
Gut erholt DOES NOT persist on using most portals, such as those available when the Mage Tower Broken Shore building is active.
Gut erholt DOES NOT persist on using Reaves' Batterie/Reaves' aufladbare Batterie to teleport.
Gut erholt DOES NOT persist on entering any instance (dungeon, raid, battleground, etc).
Gut erholt DOES NOT persist on death.
Flying or walking from one zone to another will not cancel the buff.

The rested area (for talent changes) and the Gut erholt buff WILL work on other players, regardless of whether they are in your group or not.

Farming Reputation

Reputation with Rache der Kralle is only obtained by farming and using Mal der Beute, which grants 100 reputation per mark. There are a few ways to obtain this item, as outlined below.

Note that Mal der Beute is not a currency, and takes up bag space - it stacks to 20. These marks have NO USE after getting to 999/1000 Exalted with Rache der Kralle.

General strategy: You can only farm Mal der Beute from other players in PvP and Falcosaur World Quest areas up until Honored, at which point you unlock the ability to farm them in Battlegrounds and Ashran. Overall, the grind until Honored was not very enjoyable, as I felt that I was ganking other players (particularly my own faction) who may have been just wanting to quest without bothering anyone or being bothered.

There are two items that will allow you to farm Mal der Beute are Elfenbeinfarbene Klaue and Elfenbeinfarbene Feder. These are outlined below.

Elfenbeinfarbene Klaue

This is the first item you will be using the farm marks, as it has no reputation requirement.
Can only be used in PvP World Quest areas and Falcosaur World Quest areas (see maps below).
Grants Mal der Beute on a successful killing blows on other Level 110 players while the buff is active.

NPCs DO NOT grant marks.
A killing blow on a Blood Todesritter with the Fegefeuer talent will not grant a Mal der Beute.

Using this item makes you hostile to all other players, including those of your own faction.

As a result, you can kill players of your own faction for Mal der Beute.
Hostile NPCs of the opposite faction (in the Warden Tower Assault areas) become NEUTRAL when you use Elfenbeinfarbene Klaue.

Successfully obtaining a Mal der Beute from killing a player will apply the Gejagt debuff to the target, preventing anyone from obtaining any more marks from killing that player for the next 10 minutes.
WILL stack with Eid des Feuerwächters, allowing you to obtain both Mal der Beute and Blutige Münze simultaneously.
Gives you the temporary title while the buff is active.
Applies a visual effect, giving you wings and making your character model ghostly and transparent (spectral).
The buff cannot be removed manually (right-clicking it).
While the buff is active, you cannot interact with most NPCs.

This includes the vendors on the Großes Expeditionsyak or the Tundramammut des Reisenden/Tundramammut des Reisenden

The buff is only active while you remain in the World Quest area that it was activated in.

Leaving the vicinity or even skirting the boundaries of the World Quest area can remove the buff.
Entering any instance will remove the buff.
Accepting a queue for a pet battle will remove the buff.
The buff DOES NOT persist through death.

Entering a Rated Arena or Arena Skirmish will reset the cooldown on the item, allowing you to use it again once you are out of the arena instance.
Using the item will make all PvP NPCs neutral and attackable (whether Horde or Alliance).

Elfenbeinfarbene Feder

This item ONLY works in Battlegrounds and Ashran, and is only available at Honored reputation with Rache der Kralle
Grants Mal der Beute on a successful killing blows on other Level 110 players while the buff is active.

NPCs DO NOT grant marks.
A killing blow on a Blood Todesritter with the Fegefeuer talent will not grant a Mal der Beute.

Unlike the Elfenbeinfarbene Klaue, Elfenbeinfarbene Feder DOES NOT apply a debuff to the target, allowing you to kill them multiple times for Mal der Beute.
The buff is only active while you remain in the Battleground or Ashran instance that it was activated in.

Leaving the instance will remove the buff.
Porting to a different instance will remove the buff.
The buff DOES NOT persist through death.

WILL stack with Eid des Feuerwächters, allowing you to obtain both Mal der Beute and Blutige Münze simultaneously.
Gives you the temporary title while the buff is active.
Applies a visual effect, giving you wings and making your character model ghostly and transparent (spectral).
The buff cannot be removed manually (right-clicking it).
Entering a Rated Arena or Arena Skirmish will reset the cooldown on the item, allowing you to use it again once you are out of the arena instance.

What follows is a breakdown of how many marks are required to get to various reputations.

Note that there are a few ways to speed up reputation gains - mainly buffs, including the following:

Jippie!, available by riding the carousel during the Darkmoon Faire

Dunkelmond-Zylinder grants the same buff (i.e. they don't stack with each other) but can be used anywhere. It can only be used while the Darkmoon Faire is active though.

Finsteres Gesicht/Erleichtert, available during the Schlotternächte Holiday Event

This year the event runs from October 18-November 1, 2017

Teilen macht Freude, available during the Pilgerfreudenfest Holiday Event

This year the event runs from November 20-27, 2017

Diplomatie, one of the human racial abilities
Das Wissen des Rates, available to Frost Mages with Schwarzfrost from various NPCs in Dalaran

A few of the buffs above stack - e.g. Teilen macht Freude + Jippie! would grant a total of 20% extra reputation gained.
The 20% reputation buff from the garrison Handelsposten, Stufe 3 DOES NOT work, even if you consume the marks in Draenor.

Mal der Beute Required to Reach Exalted

Below is a table of how many marks it takes to get through each reputation level, broken down by the reputation buffs (if any) you have. The assumption is that you are starting at the very beginning of each reputation level.

Reputation Level	Reputation Required	Reputation buff
None	5%	10%	15%	20%
Neutral	3,000	30	29	28	27	25
Friendly	6,000	60	58	55	53	50
Honored	12,000	120	115	110	105	100
Revered	21,000	210	200	191	183	175
TOTAL (NEUTRAL TO EXALTED)*	42,000	420	400	382	366	350

Notes:
*The total is not always a sum of the numbers above it, simply due to rounding required for most of those values.

Tips

It can be worthwhile to save marks in your bank for the Darkmoon Faire, and use them once you can get the Jippie! buff.
There are two Warden's Tower quest areas in Val'sharah, Der Hochberg and Sturmheim. At any given time, one in each of those zones will have a Horde PvP World Quest active, while the other will have an Alliance World Quest.

It can be worthwhile camping one tower or the other, depending on which faction is more prevalent on your server. Obviously, if you are camping your own faction's tower, you are liable to earn the ire of your fellow players in chat!
You can always tell where the opposing faction's tower World Quest is active based on your factions active Tower World Quest. The opposite faction always takes the "other" tower in a given zone. See below for the towers marked on maps.

At any one time there is also one of three Free-for-All PvP quests active - Finsterbrularena (Der Hochberg), Rabenwehrrandale (Val'sharah) or Rabiate Rauferei (Sturmheim). Doing these quests makes you hostile to all other players anyway, so using Elfenbeinfarbene Klaue is not much of a stretch.

You can enter any of these World Quest areas and use Elfenbeinfarbene Klaue whether or not there is a World Quest active in the area! Obviously, you are unlikely to find other players if there isn't a World Quest up.
Even if you have completed a particular PvP World Quest, you are still able to use Elfenbeinfarbene Klaue and linger in the area for as long as you want.

While in a raid group, you cannot gain credit for any of the Falcosaur or PvP World Quests, but you CAN earn Mal der Beute from kills.
In the Rabiate Rauferei World Quest area, finding the Rare spawn Sturmkralle and mounting it can allow you to rain down destruction from above!

This mount lets you attack players while flying, including casting while flying.
The mount lasts for 5 minutes.
The first time you mount this Rare spawn, you get the achievement Erweckt den Drachen.

If you want to camp a particular World Quest area and remain unseen, Tarner 54 is a great item to use.

This Warlords of Draenor consumable is crafted by Engineers (Tarner 54)
This item shares a cooldown with all non-healing potions and puts them on cooldown for 10 minutes (including the Tarner 54 itself).
Movement will break the invisibility after 6 seconds; turning in one spot does not count as movement though.

WORLD QUEST MAPS

Below are the locations of all of the World Quest areas that the Elfenbeinfarbene Klaue can be used. As mentioned above, all Warden Towers are active at any given time - one in each of 3 zones for Horde, and the other for Alliance.

Azsuna

Operation Murloc Freedom World Quest AreaOperation Murloc Freedom World Quest AreaOperation Murloc Freedom World Quest AreaOperation Murloc Freedom World Quest AreaOperation Murloc Freedom World Quest AreaOperation Murloc Freedom World Quest AreaOperation Murloc Freedom World Quest Area
Bloodgazer Swarm World Quest AreaBloodgazer Swarm World Quest AreaBloodgazer Swarm World Quest AreaBloodgazer Swarm World Quest AreaBloodgazer Swarm World Quest AreaBloodgazer Swarm World Quest AreaBloodgazer Swarm World Quest Area

World Quests:

Highmountain

Warden's Tower: Cordana's ApexWarden's Tower: Nightwatcher's PerchSnowfeather Swarm World Quest AreaSnowfeather Swarm World Quest AreaSnowfeather Swarm World Quest AreaSnowfeather Swarm World Quest AreaSnowfeather Swarm World Quest AreaSnowfeather Swarm World Quest AreaSnowfeather Swarm World Quest AreaSnowfeather Swarm World Quest AreaSnowfeather Swarm World Quest AreaDarkbrul Arena World Quest AreaDarkbrul Arena Cave Entrance

World Quests:

Schneefederschwarm!
Warden Tower Assault: Cordana's Apex (Horde | Alliance)
Warden Tower Assault: Nightwatcher's Perch (Horde | Alliance)
Finsterbrularena

Stormheim

Warden's Tower: Blackhawk's BulwarkWarden's Tower: Whisperwind's Citadel
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Bareback Brawl World Quest AreaBareback Brawl World Quest AreaBareback Brawl World Quest AreaBareback Brawl World Quest AreaBareback Brawl World Quest AreaBareback Brawl World Quest AreaBareback Brawl World Quest AreaBareback Brawl World Quest AreaBareback Brawl World Quest AreaBareback Brawl World Quest AreaBareback Brawl World Quest Area

World Quests:

Düsterschnabelschwarm!
Warden Tower Assault: Blackhawk's Bulwark (Horde | Alliance)
Warden Tower Assault: Whisperwind's Citadel (Horde | Alliance)
Rabiate Rauferei

Val'Sharah

Warden's Tower: Darkfollow's SpireWarden's Tower: Starstalker's Point
Sharptalon Swarm World Quest AreaSharptalon Swarm World Quest AreaSharptalon Swarm World Quest AreaSharptalon Swarm World Quest AreaSharptalon Swarm World Quest AreaSharptalon Swarm World Quest AreaSharptalon Swarm World Quest AreaSharptalon Swarm World Quest AreaSharptalon Swarm World Quest AreaSharptalon Swarm World Quest Area
Black Rook Rumble World Quest Area

World Quests:

Scharfkrallenschwarm!
Warden Tower Assault: Darkfollow's Spire (Horde | Alliance)
Warden Tower Assault: Starstalker's Point (Horde | Alliance)
Rabenwehrrandale

Kommentar von Bathrezz

A cheesy way to get marks, (if you are bad at PVP or don’t want to bother with the effort, is to;
- take one alt and main to a PVP zone
- find a nice corner or nook that has no mobs, no player traffic
- take off alts clothes o. O
- close your game, don’t /camp, not sure if /quit works, but I just close my game entirely
- open your game back up asap, log into your main/Mark farming char
- your naked alt will still be logged in for 10-15seconds
- Use Ivory Talon item, Pop CDs to ensure an honourable and quick death
- auto loot Mark
- Win
BUT
- your alt must relog back into the game and be active/idle for 10mins to remove the buff, simply logging out does not remove debuff

Have fun grinding for +58hours, (350x10min) / 60min = 58.3hours. (if you have 20% rep buff).

Kommentar von SylviaDragon

Finally finished this farm. I am not a fan of these kinds of farms but as someone who has done the Halaa and Blood Coin farms I can promise you this one is way easier to do thanks to flying, realm hop, reputation buffs and the rewarding pvp quests that will continue to draw in fresh prey.
I would however caution against putting this off for too long since these grinds usually tend to be time sensitive since players will stop showing up once a new xpack hits and we don’t know if the items needed to farm this will be updated to reflect that.
Anyways, I took lots of notes and played around with things while I collected my marks so that I could pass my findings on to you.

SURVIVAL: tips for staying alive
-Have flying or you will suffer endlessly
-YOUR PARTY MEMBERS CAN AND WILL KILL YOU!
-Always have emergency healing potions on hand. Feel free to grab a flask too since it persists through death. If you really want to drop the cash on other buffs go ahead.
-If you have a character that can drop agro really fast, use them. Between the legion ability to rez instantly at full health and the fact that the graveyard will always be just a few seconds away, you need to get back up in the air as soon as possible once you kill someone.
-If you can track humanoids, do it. Track beast and stealth is also good so druids can’t surprise you. You can use Schwarzgebratenes Worgsteak if you don’t have this ability.
-If you are being stalked by a vengeful player, hop realms. If the follow you log out for a few min.
-Slowfall is great for taking out afk players or fleeing the towers.
-If you are in a group and being attacked, you can use the macro /run LeaveParty() to instantly drop party. This is a roll of the dice however since you won’t always phase
-If you have a pet or anything like that, the NPCS in the area will still be hostile to it even if they are neutral to you. This can lead to you getting stuck in combat.
-Before you start in earnest you should go bite off more than you can chew. Push your limits and find out who gives you trouble and who counts as an easy kill. Learn to recognize how dangerous they are by their health pool.
-If you can find a healer who also has a talon you could in theory pay them to be a pocket healer

FARMING:
-You can kill both factions for prey and will be hostile to both factions
-You cannot heal or be healed by your faction or players in your group unless they too have the buff
-Bloody coins and marks of prey can be farmed at the same time without complication.
-Don’t use your marks until the DMF is up so you can maximize your rep gained. Don’t hold your breath on DMF overlapping with one of the other holiday buffs, I don’t think it can happen. you will need 380 coins with a 10% buff
-Use an arena skirmish to reset the timer on your talon if you die before its cd is up
-Logging out will pause both the Bloody Coin and Talon buffs so if you need to bail for a while it will still be there when you get back.
-REALM HOP! This is the single most important thing to remember because it will profoundly speed up your farm time. Go to the premade quest group and do a search for whatever pvp area you choose to farm. You can hop from realm to realm this way. You won’t phase back from some realms which is great when you find a busy one.
-Take a few laps around your chosen area to get a feel for the pvp zone’s borders. If you step out of bounds you can lose your buff mid fight.

FAILURE TO GET A COIN
There are a few things that will interfere with this. At first I suspected that my bloody coins were getting in the way but after running some tests (thanks to the help of a few friendly players) I narrowed it down to these issues.
-YOU WILL NOT GET ANY MARKS FROM PARTY MEMBERS! Also using the talon to become hostile so you can try and get bloody coins from them will not work either.
-If you kill someone who is too far away you may not get a mark. Sometimes if the player died way out of my attack range I would still get a HK notice and a bloody coin, but no Mark. Keep this in mind if you try to shoot someone out of the sky/ use dots or a pet on a fleeing target, ect.
-They phased out to their realm mid fight
-They are a priest or DK with those annoying talents… you know the ones
-Not a 110
-They have already been killed and still have the debuff. (check the area for other farmers) Sadly this means you won’t want to group up with other farmers since you will both get in each other’s way. Best to switch realms and move on.

FARMING LOCATIONS
I tried out all of the farming locations and this is how I would rate them. Some of these places are suited better for some classes than others.
-BGS: Don’t. Why do you hate yourself?
-Direbeak questing locations: great if you are on a pvp server but if you play pve no one will be flagged. Also lots of roaming elites to watch out for
-World PVP arenas: a mixed bag. The Darkbruul arena can be quite nice for a stealth player but keep in mind that even poorly geared players become deadly in here since they will often travel in packs and have the damage buff. There is no mounting down there so everyone including yourself is a fish in a barrel and someone with better gear than you is probably already down there waiting.
The Black Rook arena can be great for ranged if you can sneak up next to the friendly NPC in the stands but you will get noticed sooner rather than later. The walls provide easy cover in this situation but the back wall is out of bounds and WILL remove your buff if you get too close to it. Also players will be running in and out of range really fast so instant dots would be best here.
Merloc Freedom & Bareback Brawl: these areas will be up for both factions so you get twice the traffic. You will also find more bait balls of fighting players here- don’t go after them you will only get pulled in and die. You will be trading more traffic in exchange for players who will be more aware of pvp danger and thus better prepared to fight you.
Bareback has that cool dragon rare you can fly around on in mounted combat but it’s pretty slow and if you are melee it’s not as useful. If other players get this mount it means trouble. All in all it’s a fairly good spot though.
Merlock freedom is risky. All the mobs remain hostile to you even when buffed and there is a big elite in the center who auto casts a really nasty dot on you if you get too close to her. On the up side, there are lots of safe platforms to land on and players will sometimes dump their big cds in the elites before you swoop in.
Warden towers: my fav. Good traffic and you know everyone will show up in the tower at some point so you can scout them out. Let players waste their cds on the elite then let the group scatter to go kill the other npcs down below before you attack. These areas usually have lots of good ledges for you to land on if you need to rebuff too.
The downside here is that the pvp areas are usually much smaller and more flat. To combat this I would recommend focusing on the towers in Val’sharah because they cover a slightly bigger area (and the water is great for surviving falls or kiting melee) The other towers are way too compact and it’s really hard to find anyone on their own out of the sight of their companions in such a small area.

In closing I woul

Kommentar von Seraphy

So i completed this grind today and although it took a while i found it easy. Here's a few tips:

The safest place to get tokens is in the bareback brawl area during the stormheim invasion, there is a buff you can get for freeing a vrykul female called heroic inspiration, this buff stacks. So although it only lasts 5 minutes you can comfortably maintain 3 stacks with its short respawn timer. This combined with the area being flooded with players still gearing up makes it easier than most areas to get tokens. (Be aware you only get tokens for killing level 110's)

Make use of emergency items such as Krota's shield, Cauterising Void Shard and Chipped Demonic Key Stone to prevent dying, and pick up a Salt-Hardened Shell for players that stay mounted.

The biggest tip i can give is to make use of the Empathy buff from surumar. This buff combined with Prydaz increases your survivability massively. With my ilvl, Empathyx5 and the songflower buff in the murloc freedom world quest i sat at 13million hp and was nearly unkillable on my frost dk making liberal use of Regurgitated Leaf.

Also use Spiced Falcosaur Omelet, the 10% haste is nice, and if you're a death knight use Thassarian as a combat ally, Mark of Thassarian that he uses is untrinketable.

Kommentar von lizardskin

If farming in Highmountain, use items from the Mushroom Merchant. The items he sells share a cooldown, so you'll have to pick one to use.

My preference is Stoneshroom. 50% reduced damage for a full minute helps a LOT.

Like the Elfenbeinfarbene Klaue, you can reset the cooldown on items from the Mushroom Merchant by entering an arena.

Kommentar von Aelexe

Here's a reputation script to show how much Mal der Beute you need to reach the next rank and exalted.

/run local _, _, _, mn, mx, vl = GetFactionInfoByID(2018) print("Next Rank: " .. (mx - vl) / 100 .. " marks") print("Exalted: " .. (42000 - vl) / 100 .. " marks")

Kommentar von ggregt

I completed Rache der Kralle rep probably the craziest, most expensive way: solo, killing my own army of alts. It's more chill than PVP of which I'm not really a fan, and I had a full server of toons from trying and failing Herzbrecher X-45 attempts. I did it in combination with grinding Blutige Münzes for the Aschefellmushan from Timeless Isle, and scoring a Recruit-a-Friend mount. Total I’m spending 11 WoW-Marke, getting three mounts, and doing it over week so that I don’t go insane.

The expenses were the following:

$60 Current expansion for Recruit-a-Friend. The characters you are killing must give honor or exp which means leveled close to your toon doing the killing, nd you can’t log into max level toons on lowbie accounts.
$35 x 2 Character account transfer, 1 each, to and from the RAF account, $70 total. The 110 boost from the RAF account can be applied to your main account, so one more toon to kill.
$15 x 2 months sub on the RAF account to qualify for the mount, $30

Location
I chose to do my self-slaughtering in the Falcosaur area of Highmountain. The Felbane came is nearby with an innkeeper so I could hearth back quickly, and it’s pretty out of the way. Stormheim’s falcosaurs may be further out of the way but the flightpath seems further.

Items
To get Marks of Prey and Bloody Coins you need to use Eid des Feuerwächters and Elfenbeinfarbene Klaue. Fire Watchers Oath does not give a timed debuff; it may have at one time, but it doesn’t now. As of 7.3.5 Ivory Talon still gives the 10m Gejagt debuff which only wears of if that character stays logged in for 10 minutes. I have found two actions that clear the buff: killing a raid boss, and 2 kills in a normal dungeon. Specifically I was doing Stonecore on normal trying futilely for the mount from there. Killing the first boss didn’t clear but buff, but the second boss did. No idea why.

I tended to kill alts 2 or three times before switching toons. The first time I got a Mark of Prey and a Coin, the next 2 I just got coins. A third kill causes a resurrection timer, so switching toons was a better use of time than waiting.

TL;DR: Cost is $160 to do it the way I did it, takes 2 accounts, gets you 3 mounts, requires no PVP against other players, takes about a week if you play too much.

Kommentar von MoreDragons

tried farming some rep today - killing blows on all players and 0 marks :'(
anyone else?

Kommentar von Neid

I found Isle of Conquest a great battleground to farm these.

The vehicles do an absurd amount of damage against players (can easily two to three shot), and the killing blows grant Marks of Prey.

It was pretty fast sailing after I discovered this. Good luck!

Kommentar von Miaque

So they've changed something in 8.0.0 that means that you CANNOT kill party members.
What you have to do is invite your friends into group, so they swap into your shard, THEN they drop from party once they're next to you (and preferably naked), and THEN you kill them before they leave the shard.

So.... even more work to get these, especially since there's no one running around legion anymore.

Kommentar von Felreaper

UPDATE 2: Exalted with the Arathor, so now I've switched to Isle of Conquest. This seems to be the best way to consistently get a nice chunk of marks per BG. Just do your best to hop in a vehicle of some sort, then get a lot of killing blows

UPDATE now that I'm honored: It goes by sooo much faster. I've just been doing ABs to grind rep while I get the marks, and I already have enough marks to get to revered in less than the time I was camping towers. There are probably specific BG strategies for mark farming, but I've been having a lot of success just playing AB normally.

Currently doing this in BFA, and while it's not as fast as it'd be in Legion, it's not horrible.

The trick that's working for me is to hang out at one of the warden towers controlled by your faction. Enemy players keep trickling in and you'll be notified of their arrival via the LocalDefense chat. I simply swoop in, gank them, then wait for the next person. There are a surprising amount of not-level-capped characters doing these, which makes killing them very easy (they still give a mark too). Don't corpse camp them either, as they get a 10 min debuff after you kill them that prevents them from dropping another mark.

Some other useful tips I've learned (I'm a warrior):
-Try to engage enemies away from cliffs/not on top of the tower, many of them have gliders and they can escape. Catching them in the tower is always good
-Highmountain towers always seem to be busiest for some reason
-I'm also a Night Elf, so shadowmeld+mount is great for escaping bad situations
-Legion followers are very useful. I can call Thorim every so often and it stuns enemies around me for ~3 seconds
-Gauge if it's worth fighting someone. If it's a super-well geared tank, the answer is probably no. You don't want to die and waste your buff (you can enter and leave an arena skirmish to reset it's CD, but it's still a hassle)
-Saving the marks for when you have a bonus rep buff on is ideal

Ganking over and over gets pretty boring, but just keep telling yourself that once you hit honored, it's BG time! I'm about 25 away.

Kommentar von Yoduh

I think I have figured out the best solo Blutige Münze + Mal der Beute combo method, no PvP required, 2.5-3 minutes per mark + coin, 4 easy steps!

Youtube explanation: https://youtu.be/UIAJfEYapas

Go to 31.4, 47.8 Val'sharah (SW corner of black rook hold island) with your main and an alt. Take your main first, and just park it within the warden tower pvp area next to the Gilnean mobs. With your alt, take off all their gear while flying, then when you get there, dismount high in the air and kill yourself. There is a spirit healer right at this spot. Revive with rez sickness. Walk a few yards north to where your main is.
Switch from alt to main with alt+f4 to close your game (do NOT log off). Relaunch game and log back in with your main. Have Eid des Feuerwächters and Elfenbeinfarbene Klaue active. Your alt should still be standing there. Kill him and get your 1x Blutige Münze and 1x Mal der Beute. You must do this fast enough or your alt will get logged off before you can kill them.
Switch from main to alt. Normally you would have to wait 10 minutes for the Gejagt debuff before you can repeat the process, and the unfortunate thing about this debuff is that it doesn't countdown while a character is logged off, otherwise you could just repeat this process by cycling through alts. But instead of sitting there waiting for the debuff to go away, there is a way to get rid of it faster!
Take your alt and go into nearby Black Rook Hold (non-heroic). Run to the first boss. The moment you engage the boss, the debuff disappears (contrary to other reports that say you have to kill the boss - you do not!). In fact this method works better when you DON'T kill the boss because it's faster to die, release, run out. Go back to the warden tower area to repeat the whole process to get another Blutige Münze + Mal der Beute.

By not killing the boss, you don't have to reset, and therefore you won't be in any danger of hitting the dungeon lockout timer, which would limit you to only 10 marks/coins per hour. Doing it this way should net you 1 coin/mark every 2.5 - 3 minutes, for 20-24 coins and marks per hour.

I recommend as soon as you have enough Mal der Beute to hit honored with Rache der Kralle that you stop doing this nonsense and move on to getting your marks from BGs using the Elfenbeinfarbene Feder, which is way faster. Getting honored should take between 4-4.5 hours. You need 8500 rep (you get +500 when you unlock the rep). Reputation buffs like Jippie! or Diplomatie will obviously speed things up too.

For finishing your Blutige Münze grind, you can continue doing this solo without doing the black rook hold step which will definitely go way faster, or if you can get a friend or second account, you can go way, way faster (Youtube search "efficient bloody coin farming")

Other tips:

Best alt character to use: I found the best alt for me was a 120 vengeance demon hunter, but any tank could probably work just as good. With rez sickness and no gear it is actually pretty easy to die to the mobs on the way to the boss if you aggro them, but tank spec + infernal strike to jump past mobs could get me to the boss no problem and still die at the boss pretty fast.
Forgetting Fire-Watcher's Oath buff: The buff only lasts 10 minutes, and when logging on and off characters you might not realize when the buff expires and you accidentally miss a chance at a coin. If you have weakauras, you can import this weakaura as a visual reminder of when to rebuff: https://wago.io/bloodycoins
Can't relog fast enough: A big speedup is to install WoW on an SSD if you have one. Also disable as many unimportant and unnecessary addons as you can for slighty faster load times.

Kommentar von Kellise

I just got two of these in my victory rewards for winning a game of AB while under the effects of the BG item. Can anyone else confirm a win while under affect now rewards a mark?

Kommentar von Goblinaire

A quicker alternative I've found to the location Yoduh suggested is to go to 59,33 in Stormheim (there's a mob of two wolves side-by-side in this spot); this is just about the southern tip of where the Bareback Brawl WQ pops up, but you can use the Talon anytime and do your alt farming there. The GY is quite literally a couple of steps away, allowing very fast rezzing (similar to the warden tower/BRH location).

In addition, to clear the Hunted Buff, Maw of Souls is within sight of this spot; fly there, run in and engage the first boss, then either run out or just strip all of your gear off and let him kill you to get rezzed to the beginning of the dungeon (or run out if you want), then fly back to 59,33 and repeat.

I prefer this location opposed to BRH because the first boss of MoS is close to the entrance AND you can get to him while mounted, thus cutting down on the amount of time it takes to get the buff cleared. It's also less of a pain (IMO) to get to the MoS entrance than BRH. YMMV

In either event, happy hunting! (no pun intended)

Kommentar von Axtin

I just confirmed that the Mark of Prey tokens do not give double rep with the 100% Impressive Influence buff.

Kommentar von Javirero

If you are an Undead or Blood Elf (except demon hunter), go into Battle of Dazar'alor: Death's Bargain (any difficulty) and you will gain an additional 10% from Human's Diplomacy when using this item!

Kommentar von magpulsexp2

Talon's Vengeance Rep Buff is NOT increased when using Mark of Prey during the September 2020 reputation event event "Impressive Influence"
(Sad face)

Kommentar von badmdog

BFA - semi solo,

I used a second account ( or a friend who wants to help out ).
step 1: Your alt ( or friend ) goes to Vale of eternal Blossem and Ques up for LFR ( Terrance of Endless Springs ).
step 2: Tag the boss and walk out of the dungeon.
step 3: Fly towards Val'Sharah to the Black Rook Hold PVP area.
step 4: Use Elfenbeinfarbene Klaue on your main and kill your alt.
step 5: Ress at spirit healer with your alt
step 6: Teleport to dungeon, tag boss, walk out ( Debuff is cleared )

Repeat step 4,5 and 6. Enjoy getting Mal der Beute every 30 seconds.

Kommentar von jodle

If you have only 1 account I suggest using the trick with Maw of Souls mentioned somewhere else in this thread.
Requirements: The game installed on an SSD drive.

I've just started farming the marks last night and I have got 38 so far. Here it goes:

- I placed my main (mage) just behind the graveyard at 59.5 33.8 (between the two rocks). You will not lose your Ivory Talon buff here.
- Now alt-F4 and log your alt. I highly recommend a lvl 120 druid due to the instant travel form.
- Take off all your gear and enter Maw of Souls on normal difficulty. Run straight to the first boss so you drop your Hunted debuff. You die in 5 secs.
- Res at entrance, exit the dungeon and fly to the cords mentioned above.
- When you're there, alt-f4, restart the game ASAP, load your main, kill your druid fast, get your mark.
- alt-f4 again (it's faster than logging out no matter what), restart the game, res your druid at the GY and enter Maw of Souls one more time.

So basically it's rinse'n'repeat. You will spend 3 minutes on each mark And remember you can only enter 10 instances per hour before you get a 1 hour lockout. The lockout is account-wide. So logging another alt won't give you access to 10 new marks.

A warning. If the Bareback Brawl world quest is up there is a chance that your main will get killed by other players if you choose to use alt-f4 on your main. This happened for me single time when I farmed my first 10 marks this morning before I got hit by the dungeon luckout.

I have my chars on Draenor-EU which is a high-pop realm. But I haven't experienced any problems with sharding at all! Remember Legion is old content and less players will be around in Stormheim. :)

Kommentar von scartaris

I have some notes about the Bloody Coins, modifying Yoduh's suggestion below:

You need more Bloody Coins (500) for that mount than you need for the Talon's Vengeance rep mount, so you will still be farming those after you are exalted with Talon's Vengeance.

The victim only gets the "Sacrificed to Ordos" debuff if you are within about 20 meters. If you kill the victim with 30-meter attacks, they do not get the "Sacrificed to Ordos" debuff. So you can immediately res and re-kill that alt. (This is not true of the "Recently Hunted" debuff -- the victim always gets that debuff, even at max range.)

However, if you kill the same alt over and over, you will hit the resurrection timer, and have to wait 30 seconds to res the dead alt.

For this reason, use two alts, both warlocks, both parked right where they resurrect in that little courtyard down from the PVP area. Park the coin farming alt over by the path leading up to the tower, within the PVP area, and about 30 meters from the resurrection spot. Important: use both the Ivory Talon *and* the Ordos candle. This allows you to attack your alt even though they are not within the PVP area.

Then use Burning Rush to get warlock #1's health down as far as possible, then force close the game, then log in with the character farming the coins. That character uses a max-range attack to finish killing warlock #1, then logs off (full 20 second log off). Then log in with warlock #2, and repeat the process.

Kommentar von mmerrell

FASTEST WAY TO FARM BLOODY COINS:

1. You and a friend from the opposite faction (or your 2nd account) go to the Spirit Angel at 49.66, 77.93 in the Darkbrul Arena in Highmountain (cave entrance is at 53.80, 76.65) and have your friend stand where the Spirit Angel is. You do NOT have to be on the world quest in order for this technique to work. The Spirit Angel will automatically resurrect you every 30 seconds, bypassing the 2-minute resurrection timer entirely. Type /tar Brick to help find where the Spirit Healer is located inside the cave easier.
2. Use your Fire-Watcher's Oath in order to collect the Bloody Coin needed for your Fire-Watcher achievement/title.
3. Stand at max-range (next to Brick) and kill your friend/self with ranged attacks. Being at max-range will prevent you from getting the 'Sacrified to Ordos' debuff which prevents you from getting another coin for 10 minutes.

Enjoy!

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