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Kommentar von 8188

Anyone have one of these?

If this is like a flamethrower robot, I might have to put these all around battlegrounds just to have fire all over the poor horde's logs in WSG.

Other places could do with a little extra fire too.

Kommentar von allidon

can i assume this is a disposable item that can't follow you like a target dummy? i bet the both a target dummy and flame turret would make a great combo to use on beast i suppose.

Kommentar von Derp

I just crafted one myself. In my opinion, it is not very good.

It lasts for about 20-25 seconds (may be a bit longer) and damages enemies for 31-35 fire damage every second.

Really not worth the materials required to make one, and a one-time use.

Kommentar von Marudas

They have changed this slighlty...makes 3 turrets now. Still hardly worth the mats... From what i can tell they might have also increased the duration. Ticks for 30-40 damage every 1 second.

Not worth the mats though.

Kommentar von Carighan

After extensive testing with these, I agree with those who say they're not worth the materials.
The damage itself is kinda low, but seeing it's a Cone-AE and it lasts a bit, not necessarily that bad (40 damage a sec on say 4 enemies -> 160DPS, impressive actually).

The problem however is that unlike the Battle Chicken or the Dragonling, these don't scale in level with your engineering skill.
As such, they'll always be lvl65, even when you drop them with 390 Engineering at lvl70 (Gnome).

And being a lvl65 attacker, they get resisted ~90% or so? Didn't track it, but was just littering my screen in "Resist" messages, I maybe saw 4-5 hits over an entire Turret, into a group of 5 mobs.

So yeah - until they fix that (because I don't think it's intended, Chicken and Dragonling scale, too), it's really not worth the mats once you're ~66+.

Kommentar von Squirrely

I only use them on bosses when I know they'll get hit by the full duration; it's free dps, why not.
On a side note, after they expend themselves, you can loot them for parts, such as adamantite frames or fel iron casings.
I'd say they're worth it.

Kommentar von allidon

since the new 2.3 patch the mats have changed to something more reasonable. though it's not more powerful but it will provide you the ability to loot it like a compact harvester for remaining mats. i found this most useful to use in the flag spawn point in eye of the storm matches which prevent my opponents from getting the flag.

Kommentar von Wildhorn

This is one of the best Battleground item. It prevent people from capping EotS, AV and AB flags. This also make good anti-rogue in WSG.

And now they are really cheap to make.

Kommentar von 54335

The pet that comes out is the same level as you and is subject to the same spell hit rules as applied to any caster. Thus this isn't too useful against raid bosses its going to get resisted 16-17% of the time. I have tried this on Hydross and Lurker, fights with ads. Every shot against the ads was a hit. I don't think it was worth the investment at all..... don't use these for raids

Kommentar von 116177

it does about 30dps for 20 sec y not

Kommentar von 115369

it worth 10 times the money that i spend. but only use it in bosses. on mobs, duels, bg or arena no use... exept when you are agains classes that use cloth (mage, prist and locks)

Kommentar von Archivist

This tactic works amazingly well. In most cases I'm left single-guarding a node in AB, and dropping this turret facing the flag when I get into combat is a life saver, usually keeping them from being able to cap the flag until reinforcements arrive.

Now when we do premades, all the engineers are stationed at each base.

Kommentar von 108775

This is just the thing you need to solo chess event- this little marveolus thing attacks the Arcane Watchmans while you can Rocket-b00t Xtreme and vanish away. ^^

Kommentar von 153489

Put these down right before the AoE pulls before Moroes in Kara for a screen full of numbers!

Kommentar von drame

its WORTH IT when boosting in SFK simple as it is when i get into the courtyard i pull the whole danm thing...and as a rogue i got no real AOE (AOE for me is when it CAN hit 5 or more enemies at once NOT only an aditional) i have pulled them all i simply put it down and wait for it to be done......lets see i say roundhanded theres 20 if u pull enough 30-40 x 45 (if lucky and it lasts) = 1350 - 1800 and thats on 1! mob now 1350 - 1800 x 20 = 27000 - 36000 damagde

correckt me if im wrong but wouldnt u say to a maksimum of 36K damagde that thing is worth it when looking at the damagde output....though i would say it should be a trinket with a 2 min CD and hell of an ekspensive cost ;-D

Kommentar von 131872

anybody know if its usable in arena?

Kommentar von axle1275

If you purchase all the mats sold by vendors and farm the Mote of Fire and Mote of Earth yourself, it will only cost you 8g 40s.

So that means if you buy the Motes, it wouldn't cost much more than 10-12g depending on your server.

That's about 3-4g per use, and if you are alone defending an AB flag in a Pre-Made, I would say it's worth it. But only then.

Kommentar von 54864

I tested those recently in a raid, and, surprisingly, I am not disappointed.
They dealt 40-ish damage to a boss per tick, more than 2 ticks per sec, with about 16% resists (seems like 0 spellhit vs a level 73 boss, pretty accurate match). The two turrets I deployed dealt 7k+ overall damage, that's not godly, but certainly better than nothing. With 1min cooldown it's like 75% maximum uptime but you have to be carefull as they suffer from hostile aoe damage.
And after the boss was dead I got all the mats except blasting powder refunded.

And they are FUN!

Kommentar von 176454

have someone place Gnomish Flame Turret on the tanking spot in Leotheras the Blind in SSC, and he will aggro it, allowing the MT to get aggro back easily

Kommentar von Talvanor

Perfect for the more volatile days in Trade Chat.

Kommentar von 432859

These are pretty awesome for fighting rouges imo

Kommentar von NobodyYouKnow

SPY CHECK PLZ - I DON'T WANT A SPY SAPPIN MY SENTRY!

Awe. Come on. Why mark this comment down?
I guess no one else round these parts plays team fortress 2.

Kommentar von 168437

Spy sappin' my sentry!

Kommentar von Zofrenn

Sentry gun.

Kommentar von 410674

It may not be useful, but with the reduced materials cost its a handy way to level the gap between Outlands Engineering and Northrend Engineering.
Plus it does look awesome.

Kommentar von Catastrophe

This item has more uses than people think, it´s just how you use it.

I´ve tested the power of the Gnomish Flame Turret, by asking a duel with someone, let him have 0 resistance and place the turret.

This way, I´ve fought a lvl 60 and a lvl 65 victim. Both were cloth-users.

On the 65 victim, these were the results (Recount):
Gnomish Flame Turret:
Ability Name: Flame Cannon
Count: 109 Hits
Damage: 3489
DPS: 72.5

Flame Cannon:
Min: 30
Max: 34
Avg: 32
Count: 109

The turret is lvl 70 and has 1300 hp, does not scale.

Comparing to a saronite bomb, which does 1150 to 1500 (physical) damage, or an explosive decoy, which does 1440 to 2160 (physical) damage, the turret is clearly superior.
The turret's AOE is somewhat the same as the bomb's and the decoy's.

On a lvl 60 target, the dps was 2.4 higher (74.9 DPS).

I use these on my mage at several boss encounters, encounters that don't have severe aoe strength, so my turret can survive.

In PVP, Flame Turrets are great to be used in the Battlegrounds Arathi Basin and Eye of the Storm, where you can place a turret next to a/the flag to disallow the enemy to take it.

The turret is way cheaper than it looks. Some of the materials are refunded on death. Costing 1 adamantite frame, 2 handful of fel iron bolts, 3 elemental blasting powder and 1 fel iron casing for 3, I got 1 adamantite frame and the fel iron parts refunded when I looted them (all 3).

Kommentar von fraeg

Since I didn't see anyone mention it yet - this can only be learned by Gnomish Engineers.

Kommentar von 860557

Does anyone know if it can detect stealthed targets?

Kommentar von Astarothh

Just so everyone knows. This is *TERRIBLE* at level 85 for the mat costs. I tried using it on a level 80 Living Blood in Deepholm. Here are the results;

Total Damage Done: 195
DPS: 4.1
Time duration: 47.58seconds

It seems the ''pet'' does not scale with levels sadly. It was continuously shooting fire at the target , but almost every try was a miss. Do not attempt, I spent a chunk of gold to buy the mats / and farmed some for over 50 turrets thinking it was a good idea.

Kommentar von lolablerants

Some questions i have about this item:

is it attackable?
if so how much health does it have?
does it remain active if you die? if this remains active and stops flag caps i see this as being extremely useful in AB. pop it when your about to die, and then it stops them capping until you rez (unless they kill it)

Edit-
can it attack and unstealth stealthed targets?

Kommentar von MarsJenkar

I call it...Flaming Betty.

It's my engineer's BFF.

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