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Kommentar von 10743

Anyone know how much this heals for and how often it procs? I'm kind of torn between this and the 18 stam one for tanking.

Kommentar von beretta

This will get negative ratings and no one will ever see it... BUT.....

120-180 HP? When you have 10k unbuffed at this point?... youd get better use out of putting a lifestealing enchant on your Quel'serrar.

should read "Chance to gain 0.00008% health on melee attack"

Kommentar von bl00mie

how does the gem-requirement work? 5 of each color seems a little hard to attain, especially for a druid tank. Pre-raid, most of the best tanking equipement are socket-less blues and greens from questing.

http://www.wowhead.com/?item=25896 seems like a reasonable alternative, as the Clefthoof-hide gear has lots of blue sockets.

Kommentar von Saint

Basically a Darkmoon Card: Heroism in gem form with +defense.

Things to note:
- heals for around 120 avg.
- both the +defense skill passive stat and the proc will not work if ones gem count doesn't meet the requirments
- When selecting gems one must remember that gems can share multiple colors (typically 1-2 with a few exceptions). So in other words if a gear has 3 red slots and one sticks in Purple (red+blue) Gems the gem count is registered as 3 red and 3 blue or Orange (yellow+red) Gems for 3 red and 3 yellow. Because all gems in the slots are still red one gets the socket bonus and an extra gem count to boot.

Kommentar von abecx

This from a Botanica full run with no wipes. Not a lot of healing, especially compared to what crusader used to do. It does however at least proc with other healing enchants like battlemaster.

Lesser Heroism = 5127 (1.2%) 0/115 0.0% 44.6 Avg I've never seen it proc over 80 on a heal.

Kommentar von doombringer

Only 120-180 healing? That's pretty sad considering this is a Meta gem requiring other specific gems/sockets and is only effectively available on high level gear...

What's a 180HP proc to a warrior with 10k HP? Color me unimpressed.

Kommentar von 30347

If it is a 120-180ish heal, keep in mind this is in comparasion to the 'other' tanking meta gem, Powerful Earthstorm Diamond at http://www.wowhead.com/?item=25896 which is 5% stun resist and 18 stamina. The 18 stamina is obviously 180 HP, or even with Vitality and/or Kings, 190-200ish.

So if 180 heal seems so small and insignificant, think of it in terms of the other gems available, and whether you'd prefer a 180 max or an occasional 180 regeneration.

Kommentar von 2610

Powerful earthstorm > this

Kommentar von 3754

I took the Powerful Earthstorm Diamond for myself because I would have had to switch around some gems in other gear to make this one active. With the straight +stam gems being blue, as a tank, 'Powerful' becomes the one much easier to maintain.

Kommentar von elcohaulic

Not only is the COH 120-180 heal comparable to gaining 12-18 stam every time it processes (hopefully more then once per battle), but this also should create a lil extra aggro in PVE groups and if your a prot. warrior soloing, then every bit of healing helps in sticky situations. :p

The 5% stun resist of the Powerful E.D. is very nice as well, but not all PVE mobs do stuns. This seems like it would be more useful in PVP gear.

+12 Def is comparable to the +18 stam due to basicly being 2 gems. both are pretty strong and great for tanking, but again I think the Tenacious' +Defence is more useful for PVE so the +Stam would be better if your PVP'n.

When u think it, none of the gems, enchants, or kits are super insano. They weren't meant to be overkill by themselves. Most important is picking the right ones for what the gear will be used for.

Kommentar von wayfarer86

This gem will also help towards threat gain for Tanks, as the healing it does counts towards personal healing done.

Kommentar von AoBman05

What do they mean exactly when it states, "On hit"? The hits you take or the ones you deal?

Kommentar von 45548

"On hit" means when you deal damage, same as all the other healing proc effects (crusader, battlemaster, darkmoon: heroism, mark of conquest)

It's a passive effect so yes, it does proc in cat/bear forms.

Kommentar von 21733

I'm a lvl 70 Warrior, and MT for my guild. I had this meta gem in my T4 helm for about 3 weeks. I raided Karazan, and Gruuls Lair with it. I am dissapointed in it's very low procrate. Perhaps I might be blind to it when tanking, but I will tell you I never see this proc. I don't know if it has an animation, or a buff icon, but it never shows.

I tryed testing it in a duel and it proc once. My health went up about 120, but I still didn't see any animation. The 12 defense is nice but the 18 stam gem is a far better choice. I will tell you this, it was a pain in the neck to meet the gem requirments for this meta gem.

The Gem requirement as of today is 5 Red Gems, 5 Blue Gems, and 5 Yellow gems. The discrption on top is incorrect if it's refering to the live servers.

Kommentar von 40021

After the patch 2.1, it seems that this has been nerfed. This only heals the bearer for 40-60 health instead of 120-180. What a piece of %^&*..

Although according to my mod, it seems to have a 5-10% proc-rate.

Good Meta to get in combination with Battlemaster enchants, Mark of Conquest, and Darkmoon Card: Heroism. Gotta love it!

Kommentar von 47633

As a Bear Tank, actually as any tank, this seems sub-par.

The 18 Stamina gem in Bear form turns into 18*1.51 or 27.18 Stamina after talents. That's ~272 Hit Points. 290 I think with Kings.

If this gem has a 5% proc rate, heals for an average of 50 HP per proc, and procs on instant attacks, it's still not that good. Assuming infinite rage, and assuming you're spamming Mangle/Swipe/Lacerate, as well as FF and Demo. Roar, you're probably getting about 30 hits a minute, plus your regular attack which swings about 21 times a minute.

Assuming you land your normal hits 18 times (of 21), and land your specials about 30 times (of 40 possible); you're hitting about 48 times a minute. Lets round down to 45 just for miss streaks, repositioning, low rage, etc.

So, 45 attacks * .05 proc rate * 50 avg. healing = ~112.5 healing per minute. That means that you heal that extra 272 in about 2min 25s; or 290 in about 2m 35s.

Most boss fights are going to last longer than 2.5 minutes. So, after that you're actually healing yourself more than those extra HP from the 18 stamina.

But that extra healing is practically non-existant when you take into account real raid situations, which involve a fair amount of over-healing. I would guarantee that in any given encounter, having an extra 272hp (even less max will net you a LOT more actual healing than this gem does. That's an extra 272hp EVERY TIME you're healed to full.

Warriors with a 1.8s weapon, spamming 40 instants a minute attack about 73 times a minute. Assuming about a 15% miss rate from Miss/Parry/Dodge and using non-attack abilities on potions like Shield Wall etc, let's say you actually land about 62 hits a minute. 63*.5*50 = ~158 healing per minute.

Better, but I'd still say your healers are probably doing more than 158 points of overhealing per minute.

So basically, this gem is the worse of the two tanking gems unless you NEED the extra 12 defense.

Kommentar von 57465

Most tankadins will have the Sacred Duty talent, making them get 6% hps out of their stamina. So a Powerful Earthstorm will be worth 18 * 10.6 for 190 hps. Not to mention they will most likely have BoKings on, so add another 10% for 209 hps.

As a tank, it's not about waiting and hoping on some gimmick heal to proc, which is why tankadins don't figure redoubt into their uncrushable status,i t's about the hps being there to begin with.

Kommentar von 43572

imo a good choice for tankadins. yes, we are gimpped on stamina and 18 stam is pretty compelling. BUT, reckoning will help the proc rate. this meta is more health in the long run, and a small bump in avoidance too.

Kommentar von Soundfx4

I've said it before, I'll say it again, and I will never stop saying it. I #$%@ing hate blizzard so #$%@ing much.

Kommentar von 52664

No one's mentioned it, but this gem is ideally suited for AOE farming as a protadin. Reckoning measurably increases the proc rate as well.

Kommentar von 99344

Why Blizzard nerfed this to be nearly useless is out of my comprehension. When I first got my T4 helm I evaluated some Meta Gems, but didn't really do much research on this specific one. Too bad really, because I wasted 100g on this gem right after it had been nerfed. I tested it in both Cat and Bear form, and thb I believe Blizzard nerfed it because the crits were overwhelming. After a half hour of grinding, watching the procs, it crit 95, and I was like /wrist and bought myself the 18 stamina 5% stun resist one.

They may as well downgrade the quality of this gem to gray. Make it a Spirit Shard reward or something.

Kommentar von elsydeon

actually on tankatronic with the KoT 16/17 glyph, thats a total of 70 def rating, which is a big chunk of what you need for crit immune, thus freeing up other gear slots for more avoidance items (andormu's tear) and spell dmg, stam, and block value items for us tankadins (s1 shoulders, vindicator's belt, the block trinkets, my beloved goblin rocket launcher)

the heal isnt much threat, especially as a tankadin, but i wont complain about free threat and heals:)

Kommentar von 24111

Altho the nerf it seems to be affected by bonus healing making it suitable for a Paladin Tank, best for solo AoE farming. Could anyone confirm this? Or did i somehow managed to miss a talent or buff that might increse this heal instead of my bonus damage/healing.

Kommentar von 98433

I've been getting the healing proc all day with only 2 blue gems.

Kommentar von 106166

As a Prot Paladin with 400 healing, this gem just procced for 44.

Which means the healing coefficient has been hotfixed and this gem is now close to useless compared to many other gems.

Kommentar von 51086

12 defense rating = 5.07313773 defense skill at level 70.

12 defense rating = +0.81170203% uncrushability for a protection-warrior at level 70.

Kommentar von 93181

Does anyone else see the use in this for farming lower instances as a Feral Druid? I tend to go in and grab huge packs and just swipe spam.

Tenacious Earthstorm Diamond:
Proc: Lesser Heroism
Sometimes heals bearer of 120 to 180 damage when damaging an enemy in melee.

Darkmoon Card:
Proc: Heroism
Sometimes heals bearer of 120 to 180 damage when damaging an enemy in melee.

Improved Leader of the Pack:
Your Leader of the Pack ability also causes affected targets to have a 100% chance to heal themselves for 4% of their total health when they critically hit with a melee or ranged attack. The healing effect cannot occur more than once every 6 sec.

Just slap this into some headpiece (maybe the Rep PVP helm) with the Darkmoon card (which is fairly cheap) and go clear out old instances for disenchanting mats.

Kommentar von 60687

Am I the only one, who sees the 5 Blue gems as a problem?? I'm going for full s2, as Feral Drooid:

Merciless Gladiator's Dragonhide Gloves = No Sockets.
Merciless Gladiator's Dragonhide Helm = The 1 Meta and 1 Yellow Socket.
Merciless Gladiator's Dragonhide Legguards = No Sockets.
Merciless Gladiator's Dragonhide Spaulders = 1 Red and 1 Yellow Socket.
Merciless Gladiator's Dragonhide Tunic = 2 Red and 1 Yellow Socket.
Sockets:
1 Meta
3 Yellow
3 Red
No Blue Sockets.. :-/

You can have a Cloak, Boots, neck, rings and one of the above items with Blue Sockets (4 of 5 is needed for the lovely setbonus :-)

Any USEFULL ideas?? (Other than roll a real tank, ALT+ F4, etc.)

Or is this set just best for PvP, and time to find other for Tanking?...

c",)

Kommentar von 174874

Just to make sure this proc does not ge the + healing that you have does it?

Kommentar von 155390

Just to Clarify, as of 2.4.3 this gem does the following:

Gives you 12 Def rating
Chance on YOUR hit to heal YOU for 40 - 60 hp
Requires 5 Blue gems to work.

it does NOT

seem to have an internal cooldown (after testing some of the features of it, and seeing it proc with 3 seconds of itself.)
get any bonus from +heal/spdmg.

Pretty much, unless you NEED the defense, this gem sucks. If you are a druid this gem is for you if you need the Defense, Paladins and Warriors should be getting the one with added Block Value and switch one of your gems to a Green/Orange/Yellow gem to make the Meta Bonus.

If you don't need the added Def, then i suggest 18 stam/Stun resist.

Kommentar von danroe

This gem is actually the Pick of Destiny.

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