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Kommentar von Tarami

Shamelessly stolen from spell details:

Proc chance: 15%

Now go TheoryCraft!

Kommentar von 43959

This has been buffed to 600 over 12 secs on 2.1 PTR.

Kommentar von 47142

Will it place a HoT on all your chain heal targets as well? If so seems like a nifty resto trinket.

Or let me rephrase that: has anyone shaman tested the trinket by now?

Kommentar von zagi

Nerfed back to 500 healing, BUT..

16 passive mana per five sec added.

- Newest PTR patch.

Kommentar von 1506_

changed again to 500 HoT, and added 16mp5 passive.
this is the leet hotness, cool for non-HoT classes, though imo this excells with druids and priests, especially druids since they're throwing instant hots left and right 24/7

edit: ok i'm really slow

Kommentar von 44948

Though I'm sure it'll be hotfixed out soon, healing done by Vampiric Embrace procs this trinket.

I hope it isn't nerfed of course, there aren't many other trinkets with passive mana per 5 secs bonuses that have other effects useful to shadow priests.

Kommentar von Kejek

Got this today, and the CD on it seems to be about 15seconds. I've had one proc, then another 17 seconds later, and then another time it was 14 seconds (could just be ui error). I havent seen one proc while one was already up though.

Works on Chain Heal, but wont proc on all 3 targets if it procs on the first (i was hoping.. hah).

Kinda nice =D

Kommentar von 58898

I'm getting a little over 8% proc rate while constantly spamming Flash of Light.

Guess the internal cool down is reducing its proc rate while constantly casting? Or is it actually less than 15% ?

Over all it seems like a pretty crappy trinket, currently im just using it for the mana regen, but that doesnt make it too much better than Rejuv. Gem (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=19395)

Kommentar von 56239

Procs of Judgment of Light, very imba rogues have the hot all the time

Kommentar von fhait

I'll submit for contemplation the possibility that the cooldown on this is actually 12seconds (the duration of the HOT) and not 14-15seconds.

;)

Kommentar von 51730

16mp5 + bonus from direct heals = my kind of trinket

Kommentar von 20347

Not anymore;)

2.2 PTR Patch Notes:

Fel Reaver’s Piston: This item will no longer be triggered by the healing generated by Vampiric Embrace.

Kommentar von 18513

I was worried if chain heal would proc this or not.

Too bad the internal cooldown prevent its from multi-procing.

And yes, the longer the spell cast, the better the proc rate will be due to the internal cooldown, or atleast in theory... I think.

So this would be worth "more" to people who cast bigger heals more often the small heals... right?

Kommentar von Rastafa

For those resto druids that like this sort of thing, Swiftmend DOES work on this HoT.

Kommentar von 56751

a guild mate shaman got this today and said the hot woulnt stack with the add heal. 132 heal per 3 sec for 12 sec.

Kommentar von Blairus

This trinket is great. Good mana regeneration and a nice little HoT. Two reasons why I like this now:

1 - As a Holy Priest with Circle of Healing, I can get the HoT on lots of people very quickly for a very small cost. I think it's brilliant.

2 - With multiple healers in a 25 man raid using this trinket, you will end up with many of these HoTs on individuals like the main tank.

Kommentar von 78281

As a restoration shaman I find this trinket very useful in PvP. With about +2000 healing (trinkets and WoA) my earth shield ticks for around 940, having this trinket equipped each tick will have a 15% chance to heal for an additional 500 hp.

In a normal 2-on-2 game I'll go through between 1 and 3 earth shields, meaning the trinket alone will heal me for 750-2250 hp, not to mention the fact it does add quite a nice amount of mana/5sec, which is very useful for those long arena games.

Kommentar von cherrypie

Very nice for priest and druid too, procs off PoM and lifebloom end tick. Each pom jump can proc it, which is incredibly good when you can get it to bounce between two people. Only negative is that it's purgable, but even then it's still a good thing, less likely to take renew or freedom etc.

Kommentar von 88335

Below is an analysis of the +healing value of Fel Reaver’s Piston using actual numbers taken from a combat log parse of Void Reaver. Void Reaver was selected because it is an ideal condition for 3 primary types of healing; Pally’s spamming flash of light, Shaman spamming Chain Heal, and Priest spamming Circle of Healing. For a priest spamming flash heal, one could probably assume results similar to Pally and flash of light. I don’t consider a Druid here because I don’t understand all of their mechanics relative to this trinket.

Your actual results may be different, but the analysis remains the same. Swap out any combination of 1) hits per minute and 2) scale of +heal/hit to get your own results.

This entire analysis, and opinions stated therein, are only about the +healing value of the trinket. The mana/5 is not factored here in any way except in the conclusion.

1. Analysis of actual results from a Void Reaver kill:
Class.............................minutes--# of casts........# of hits........hits per minute....seconds/hit
CoH priest..........................9.............130..................420 .................47.....................1.3
CH Sham...........................9...............80..................200..................22.....................2.7
Pally/Priest (normal)...........9..............120.................120..................13.....................4.5

Note: all healers employed multiple healing abilities; however, for each healer-type one spell was dominant. Some effort was made in the numbers above to account for the actual spells used to give as realistic a picture as possible.

2. Effective healing from trinket (no overhealing) (15% proc rate and 12 sec cooldown)
Class...................# of secs / proc......# of proc's/minute....+heal/proc......+heal/minute
CoH priest.......................9.............................2.9...................500.................1458
CH Sham........................18............................2.0...................500.................1000
Pally/Priest (normal).........30...........................1.4....................500.................714

The simple assumption here is that to get a new proc, you must wait 12 seconds (for the previous proc to expire) and then you must wait to get your new proc according to the number of hits per second you are generating.

The obvious result: Those who are getting more hits/minute are getting more proc's, and therefore more beneficial effect.

Important note: The last column in this table is probably the bottom line most important value – the raid wants the trinket to go where it is going to deliver the maximum overall benefit.

3. Equivalent trinket value (no overhealing) (value = (+normalized heal/min)/(hits/minute))
Class..............................scale of +heal/ hit....normalized +heal/min....value as a +heal trinket
CoH priest...............................0.20...........................7292..............................156
CH Sham................................0.42...........................2400..............................108
Pally/Priest (normal)................0.43...........................1661..............................125

The point of this piece of analysis is to determine the question “What is the effective +healing value of this trinket for this situation?” In other words, “Should I use this trinket or should I use one of my other ones that deliver around +70 healing?”. In order to do this analysis, we have to consider that +heal scales differently in different uses, and must normalize accordingly (A flash heal gets different value from a +70 heal trinket then a chain heal does e.g.).

Shammy note: the scaling for Chain Heal is listed as 125%...I’m assuming that value is spread among 3 hits according to some formula...let me know if I’m wrong there, its very possible. Any increase in CH scaling from what I've used, lessens the value of this trinket relative to others.

CoH note: the scaling for CoH I used is because I notice apx. +400 healing to every hit given my apx. +2k healing.

Final, very important note: To really make sense of those numbers, over-healing must be considered. A direct/main healer (e.g. pally/priest) could get less beneficial effect of the trinket because the benefit plays out over 12 seconds...however this is true for all their trinkets.

4. Overhealing analysis:
Note, the overhealing analysis is more subjective then above, but probably an important analysis to do.

Below is overheal data from the same representative Void Reaver kill:
Class........................overheal %
CoH priest....................0.15
CH Sham......................0.1
Pally/Priest (normal)......0.4

Subjectivity suggests that the type of healing being done by the CoH Priest and Shammy (healing the melee folks who are not running out of the pounding) means that the +500 restoration effect of the trinket will receive some reasonable effect...maybe more then 50%. However, because of the 12 second time to deliver its full effect, the Pally/Priests will probably, in practice, receive very little of the trinket benefit...maybe less then 25%.

All things considered, if you’re a guild doing fights that require a lot of AOE healing, this trinket is probably best used by a CoH Priest or a Shammy. Because CoH healing is only useful in a select group of circumstances (and as a result few Priests even spec it), and because of the Shammy’s need for mana regen, the Shammy is probably the best all around recipient. The Pally’s are probably the worst due to the fact that their role necessitates a lot of overhealing and they have less need for mana/5 then either the Shammy or the Priest.

In general is it a good trinket? Maybe; its constant-equip value is probably mostly the 16 mana/5, with limited +healing (whats more important, 16 mana/5 and +5-20heal, or +70 healing?...you decide). Is it a good trinket if used situationally?...In the right circumstances, it is probably the best trinket in the game.

Kommentar von Kimpan

This is one of the best healing trinkets ingame for a shaman. Its a trinket with 15 % proc chance and drops of Void Reaver inside Tempest Keep.

Why its so great for shamans is becouse, A shaman do not have any kind of HoT (Healing over time) spells, And each "jump" of chain heal has 15 % to proc this. And chain heal is the primarty healing spell for a shaman. The proc do not scale with healing and there is a small hidden cooldown, It can proc once the HoT duration is finished. So a 12 sec hidden cooldown.

I would suggest every shaman that can to get there hands on this one.

Kommentar von cesp00l

As a shaman, I love this trinket when I'm soloing. When I have my Earthshield on myself, each tick of it has a chance of proccing the HoT.

Kommentar von pingzing

It's worth noting that this trinket scales with +healing very slightly. It gets .02% of your +heal over the whole duration, each tick getting .006% of your +heal.

Kommentar von 14822

Not to challenge what you've seen, as I have no direct experience with this trinket, but 0.02% sounds extremely low - beyond being statistically detectable.

A 0.02% co-efficient means +5000 heals equates to +1 healing done. As you point out it's over the whole duration, and on a per tick basis you're detecting 0.006% per tick more heals. To see +1 healing done per tick in that situation you'd need +16,667 heal.

Kommentar von 126531

just tested fel reaver's piston and the ticks proc Shattered Sun Pendant of Restoration (scryer)

my i also add that the tick gains a incredibly small % of ur +healing. normal ticks for 125, i had it tick for 138 with +2037healing

also procs of earth shield whether it is on the tank or on urself. truely awesome trinket.

Kommentar von 102644

anyone know what the name of the HoT is in the combat log?

Kommentar von 98254

The HoT ticks from this trinket can proc the effect on the Scryers neck, I also assume it to proc the Aldor one also.

Kommentar von 42833

(Dumb perhaps) question about this. But spells like lifebloom and rejuvenation does not trigger it, correct?

Kommentar von 194238

What about Regrowth's Heal,otherwise,this trinket would be useless to druids,except for the mp5 or HT..if anyone actually uses that,or swiftmend .. does that proc it?

Kommentar von lordhakera32

For druids:

For those who read the earlier posts, this procs off the folowing Druid spells:

--Regrowth
--Swiftmend
--Lifebloom's END TICK (End tick is the ONLY part of lifebloom that will proc it as it's the only that counts as a direct heal, since it instantly heals for a solid non-hot ammount)
--Healing Touch (Obviously...)

Also, I've had arguments about procces off Tranquility, and from what I've seen it does not proc from it. If anyone has tested and has proof it does, I'd love to correct my post.

Kommentar von 530761

even tho its a lvl 70 trinket, look at its effects. they (meaning the effects) can still be viable at 80, tho im more than sure that any lvl 80 healing trinket will be significantly better. I surely wouldn't want to use this in ICC. naxx, ulduar, or toc, but not ICC.

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