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Kommentar von 20820

Before comments get spammed again...

It drops from Enraged Air Spirits, Enraged Earth Spirits, Enraged Water Spirits and Enraged Fire Spirits in Shadowmoon Valley.

And yes, the droprate is low. Or maybe it's not. Or maybe it's just luck. Or maybe Blizzard doesn't like you. Or maybe not. Or maybe it just drops and nothing else really matters.

Kommentar von Vouz

Droprates isnt likely to be determined at any precise measure due to this plan being BOP and only will drop for players with blacksmithing profession.

Also its said that these shoulders is being implemented to compensate for the nerf of Sylvanaar Champion's Shoulders.

Kommentar von 90513

These plans dropped off of the 5th Enraged Fire Spirit that I killed at the Hand of Guldan today.

On a side note, these shoulders are ridiculously out of line with the rest of the set as far as stats go, and they are a bit overpowered for a blue item. Socketing these shoulders with an 8 hit gem and 8 crit gem gives them the following stats:

64 AP
17 hit rating
28 crit rating

Now compare those stats to Tier 5 shoulders (socketed with an 8 crit gem and a 4 str/6 stam gem for the set bonus):

86 AP
18 hit rating
28 crit rating

Speaking from a raid DPS warrior's standpoint, I would expect that upgrading from a blue craftable set of shoulders to Tier 5 would give me more than ~22 AP and 1 hit rating (stam is negligible for raid DPS). Granted, Tier 5 can be socketed differently to give better stats, but there's still not that much of a disparity there. I would say that these shoulders will probably get nerfed soon.

Kommentar von Drovor

These are a good way to level blacksmithing, the mats are fairly easy and the pattern is orange up until 375.

Compared to other craftables which can get those last 5 points:

Felsteel Gloves:
36 Fel Iron Ore
24 Eternium Ore

Flamebane Breastplate:
32 Fel Iron Ore
6 Primal Water
4 Primal Fire

Enchanted Adamantite Breastplate:
40 Adamantite
8 Arcane Dust
2 Large Prismatic Shard

Kommentar von 44404

I suspect that these not as likely to be nerfed as people may suppose. While they seem to be overpowered, they ARE available to both factions and there are upgrades available. T5 are certainly an upgrade over these (T4 not as much, because agility sucks for warriors now).

The Sylvanaar Champion's Shoulders were an alliance-only quest reward, which was probably a large factor as to why they were nerfed.

Kommentar von 56773

Blinking sharks.... I decided to start collecting mats for this sweet item... I have all the fel iron and primal fires, and almost all the Khorium. The only thing was the Scroll of Str. So I head off to the AH .... there were 4 up .. 2 of them for 70 g each, the other 2 for 80g each .... ...

Yeah - that's me ... speechless !!

Kommentar von Humbaba

This was easily farmed in about 20 minutes of killing air elementals.

Kommentar von 56773

Finally got around to going to farm for these ... plans dropped before I could make a full circuit of the Netherwing Fields (off an Enraged Air Elemental). Also picked up 13 motes of air.

Then I went (as is a habit now) to the AH looking for a Scroll of Strength V ... picked one up for 96s ... happy me ;-)

Now I just need Khorium and I'm done !!

Kommentar von angeldd

I get plans less of 30 kills .Its a nice .Scroll u can get with fishing.

Kommentar von 98308

According to my KillCounter, I've been through 15 Enraged Fire Spirits and 72 Enraged Earth Spirits - and still no dropped plans for me... I guess, much of it depends on luck.

The plans for helm, gloves and breastplate dropped much quicker :)

Kommentar von 73681

i got that plan @ lvl 68 when i was questing with my warrior, i guess i'm a bit lucky or so..

Kommentar von 11195

If you are farming this, you misewell kill Fire Spirits so you can get the Mote of Fire to make Primal fire for the plan.

I killed 60 or so Earth elementals, killed one fire elemental and it dropped.

Kommentar von 108584

Had these plans drop for me off Enraged Air Spirit in smv. Was just farming air motes, lucky find. Im 355 in Blacksmithing

Kommentar von Mortuus

Killed 192 elementals (mostly fire) and this finally dropped. I reckon the dr is about 0.2%... Good luck, fellow farmers.

Kommentar von Jija

Plans dropped for me at around the twentieth Enraged Fire Elemental I killed.

I can also confirm that the drop rate for motes of fire is abismal off these mobs.

Kommentar von 167989

Got these today after killing about 10 enraged air spirits while grinding motes. : )
Nice for leveling 365 -> 375 if you ask me, the mats aren't that hard to grind / expensive.

Kommentar von 192746

These plans dropped for me yesterday while killing the earth and fire elementals for a quest. I got them after about 18 kills and just about jumped out of my chair, as I have been looking for a pattern to use to skill up from 365 to 375 and I think I just found it. The mats are not terribly demanding, and it is an item that other players might actually want to buy, unlike some of the other blacksmithing plans available at this level.

Kommentar von 285399

Went to the lava pit around the "Hand of Gul'dan" at center of zone and just killed everything I saw until it dropped...

117 Enraged Fire Elemental and 68 Earth Elemental (by MI2 count) and 90 minutes later, I finally I got it. :)

Moral: If it doesn't drop for you in the first dozen or so kills, like it has for others, don't give up!

Kommentar von 422967

Had pretty bad luck grinding this pattern, but after some 400 kills I finally got it. Got mine off the flame spirits in the west side. Be prepared to get very very bored when you try and get this pattern.

Kommentar von 337260

Looted the plans on the 81st kill around the Fel Pits...this area seemed to be the largest & densest population of enraged spirits.

Kommentar von 781775

I'm not sure that my experience is typical, but picked up the entire set of plans within about an hour total (and that includes the time I spent looking up what the set was after the first drop).

I had to kill about 2 dozen elementals to get the drop (FWIW, I had Blacksmithing lvl 365 when I started grinding for the plans, not sure if the drop rate is affected by that or not).

Kommentar von Nenn

Full set :
Ragesteel Helm
Fel Iron Bar (10)
Primal Fire (10)
Khorium Bar (4)
Elixir of Major Strength (4)

Ragesteel Shoulders
Fel Iron Bar (12)
Primal Fire (2)
Khorium Bar (8)
Scroll of Strength V (2)

Ragesteel Brestplate
Fel Iron Bar (12)
Primal Fire (10)
Khorium Bar (6)
Elixir of Major Strength (4)

Ragesteel Gloves
Fel Iron Bar (8)
Primal Fire (6)
Khorium Bar (3)
Elixir of Major Strength (2)

Total :
Fel Iron Bar (42)
Primal Fire (28)
Khorium Bar (21)
Elixir of Major Strength (10)
Scroll of Strength V (2)

Kommentar von DELcastis

Was grinding rep for the Kurenai. These dropped off a boulderfist warrior north of Halaa.

Kommentar von wxcopy

Dropped on my 7 or 8th kill on my 85 warrior blacksmith. Drop rate is not accurate here.

Kommentar von helver

I found taking out the Fire and Earth elementals around the Hand of Guldan (big volcano in the center of the zone) worked very well. They're fairly close together and there isn't much else around to bother you.

It took me 10 Earth elementals and 13 Fire elementals before the pattern dropped today (5/14/2012) - patch 4.3.4

Kommentar von 984689

I was expecting to grind for this thing for hours, but I went out to Shadowmoon and killed maybe 10 earth elementals, and it dropped. I think its just luck; getting the rest of the set recipes will probably be murder >.<

Kommentar von 594361

Just killed a Corrupted Air Elemental and got it randomly in Shadowmoon Valley.

Kommentar von TheReal

It should be noted that many players who are not blacksmiths kill these NPCs, thereby skewing the drop rates a bit. The drop rate for blacksmiths is probably somewhere between 1-2%.

Kommentar von 1046926

Maybe I'm just lucky but these plans dropped on the third Enraged Earth Spirit I killed... (shrug)

Kommentar von Wowkingz0811

I gathered a group of most of them and killed them and somehow I got 2 of the plans from the loot.. well aren't I lucky.. sucks it's not BoE

Kommentar von Joshyoung94

I Just got this drop on ~ my 20th air elemental. I was not even aware of this drop nor trying for it. WTB m04r motes.

Kommentar von cyclonus98

This recipe just Dropped after 17 kills. Maybe being a blacksmith makes it drop faster.

Kommentar von Phrygians

Dropped from a Netherskate whilst doing dailies for Netherwing rep.

Kommentar von cyberboy

Wütender Erdgeist dropped recipe for me.

64th kill.

Kommentar von khaldac

I got the plans from after killing 5 Earth spirits and 1 Air spirit. I'm a blacksmith.

Now to get the chest piece plans....

Kommentar von GilblinStalker

Just dropped for me from a Enraged Earth Spirit, after 20 kills i believe, i killed some Enraged fire spirits aswell but, i would definitely recommend this area (Hand of Guldan) Took me about 5-10 mins to get it. Heres the screenshot :D https://gyazo.com/f5485f18bde1eb8958a3660546e6952b Happy hunting!

Kommentar von addmydataz

Update for comments section, 24 Feb 2019: grinding for Ragesteel Shoulders Plans, which of course drop ONLY for a Blacksmith, farming in Shadowmoon Valley. Decided to focus on just the Enraged Water Spirits in the general vicinity of Coilskar Point/Coilskar Cistern. The Water Spirits are not particularly tough for melee, but their Stormbolt Ranged Attacks do decent damage, as well as doing Knockback with Slow on a successful attack. That can be dangerous, with plenty of other mobs or Coilskar patrollers clustered around the Water Spirits in certain areas, and boiling-hot, green fel-lava pits to be Knocked-Back into nearby, usually containing a nasty-tude, lava-proof Diemetradon or two waiting for lunch to fall in. Only took 1/2 of a circle of all the Enraged Water Spirit spawning areas for the Ragesteel Shoulder Plans to drop, total of 14 kills. Fastest drop yet for one of the RageSteel plans.

Kommentar von unclekoen

The plans dropped after the fifth kill off Enraged Water Spirit in Outland, Shadowmoon Valley.

Strange thing. The plans keep telling me lvl 350 off Blacksmithing required. I got Outland Blacksmithing on 75/75 and learning was no problem.

As a lvl 36 Warrior, just Charge in and hit Thunderclap. Too easy. ;)

Kommentar von Milyy

I was farming for almost an hour on Enraged Fire and Earth Elementals with no success. But I did not have Outland Blacksmithing skill learned. After learning the skill it droped from 15th kill from Fire Elemental.

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