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Kommentar von hornswaggle

Could anyone please verify how this interacts with Warriors/DKs/Paladins, does it add both {parry} and {dodge} rating? Or might this be a move for blizzard to make all {parry} -> {parry dodge}, thus making it a valid stat for Druids as well? (Items with {parry dodge} rating giving {dodge} for druids and {parry} for Warriors/DKs/Paladins).

Due to diminishing returns this might not be as effective for druids, since they would be stacking {dodge} compared to other tank classes who would have {parry} as a supplement to other stats, but it would still be a move in the right direction to increase avoidance for druids after the reduction of {agility}->{dodge} conversion.

//horns

Kommentar von MAsker

Before factoring in diminishing returns, this trinket is basically badge of tenacity 2.0 in respect to mitigation and avoidance that is actually useful for other tanking classes besides druids.

Edit: It seems that in the recent build(8982) for the WotLK Beta, Parry-Dodge is gone and this trinket is now just pure Dodge Rating.

Kommentar von sohvan

The parry-dodge mechanic is awesome. Now only if they'd do something similar with block rating/block value. It's painful to see good tanking gear that has a large part of it useless to deathknights and druids.

Kommentar von antdog

From what I have read, parry dodge will grant you parry rating if you are able to parry, and dodge otherwise.

Where did you read this? I can't find anything on parry dodge.

Link? Source?

Thank you.

Kommentar von 209466

No parry on this item anymore, just dodge

Kommentar von Drakonis7

Gawd! this trinket is awsome for druids :O

so hey, where does it drop? :)

edit: aah, Naxx 25

Kommentar von korkmaz

Ah there.. new feral druid tank trinket!

Kommentar von 10334

This is actually very good for DKs.

Kommentar von 70455

Drops from Grobbulus in Naxxramas 25-man version.

Kommentar von 204641

This is so handy for Feral Druids tanking O-o;

Kommentar von funknut

This will also be an excellent DK tank trinket with the over 80% bonus to armor with Toughness and Frost Presence.

Kommentar von baldeagle

By Xhenohn 14 days ago (Patch 3.0.2)
4394 armor on bear, nice.

Per post by Ghostcrawler below, this is incorrect. You will get only 850 total armor from this trinket in bear form.

Originally Posted by Ghostcrawler
ARMOR
We are changing the way bear armor works so that bonus armor on items does not receive the bear armor multiplier. Specifically this means that trinkets, rings, necks and cloaks with bonus armor will not be multiplied by the bear bonus. The normal armor on leather will still be multiplied by this bonus. We are also going to remove bonus armor from Feral staves. You’ll get your bonus armor from the leather you acquire.

Examples:
1) A ring that grants 100 bonus armor will now grant a bear 100 armor (not ~470 armor).
2) Leather legs with 253 armor will still grant a bear ~1190 armor (not 253 armor).
3) A feral staff will now grant 0 armor.

We are making this change because armor is such a good stat for bears that it makes taking pieces with bonus armor a non-decision and we don’t want acquiring these pieces, which tend to not be common, to be so much of a barrier to a druid who wants to tank a raid.

This change will NOT be in effect when Lich King ships. We are letting you know this now so that you don’t go through heroic efforts to acquire items like the Badge of Tenacity, or Defender’s Code. Defender’s Code, with 850 armor, will still be a good trinket. But it won’t be an insanely good trinket for a bear.

We will adjust the bear armor modifiers so that your net mitigation does NOT go down with these changes. Let me repeat: this is not a nerf to Feral armor. It is a change to the amount of armor you get from gear with bonus armor.

Kommentar von 189418

Pure, unadaulterated win... period period period

Kommentar von lihaug

This item grants a Death Knight in Frost Presence with the talent Toughness 1564 armor if I'm not mistaken

Kommentar von EvilElpay

Confirmed - This gives me still scales with frost pressence. The nerf to druid non-leather items did not effect to Death Knights.

Kommentar von 271529

Forget the armour...

For those who have the Emblem of Heroism Trinket(http://www.wowhead.com/?item=40683).

This trinket and Valor Medal of the First War DO NOT share a cooldown timer.

Yes, that's right. You can use them at the same time and boost your dodge a full 20% for 20 seconds.

OP Druid Tank strikes again!
Hopefully this doesn't get nerfed in the patch :)

EDIT: Don't forget diminishing returns kids. All said and done you actually get about 15-17% dodge from stacking these depending on your current gear and avoidance. Still awesome.

Kommentar von 17624

This is a fairly nice tanking trinket, but we, like most raids, have a finite number of tanks and might-be-tanks, and this drops so often for our guild we've taken to calling it Vendor's Code.

(ref: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=17074)

Kommentar von Punkenjoy

this is not the best tanking trinket but it still a good trinket if you have nothing better.

But one thing interesting about this trinket is that you can get it to get the Epic acheivement since it's an itemlvl of 213.

Just put it in a trinket slot and swap it with your other trinket and you got 2 more slot done for this acheivement.

This trinket drop so often that my guild is thinking about giving it to everyone to get their acheivement done.

Yes it can ben sharded but we already have plenty of Crystal.

Kommentar von kelthelas

so whats the best combo when choosing between Valor Medal of the First War, Defender's Code, and Gossemer? Or, does this all depend on individual stats.

Kommentar von 239783

Using this on my Warlock, 850 armor is incredible for a class that only has around 2k armor unbuffed and greatly increases my survivability in pvp.

Would probably rate Armor for cloth classes even above Resilience, for me it pushes DR from 11% to 16%.

Kommentar von Sonneillon

Does this share a cooldown with the Monarch Crab that JCs can make?

Kommentar von 343138

is there a macro you can build to use first war and the defender code trinkets at the same time?

Kommentar von 96400

Patch 3.0.9: give armor in bear form 850 + 2% (Austere Earthsiege Diamond) = 867 armor

Kommentar von 45047

as of 3.1.3 this can be used together with Heart of Iron, making those two an awesome combo for every tanking class. in before hotfixed...

Kommentar von 530114

I used this trinket for about three to four months and was fairly good especially when paired with the 32 stam +2% armor meta gem as well a warrior spec for even more armor. I later replaced it with another trinket that has to red gem slots and 62 stam. Used the 885 armor enchant on the gloves to make up the armor loss.

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