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Kommentar von Yukazi

Warlocks:
Increases your spell damage by 152 while active (including passive spirit | if your Demonology) if your Spirit is higher than your Intellect.

Personally I find this version to be more of a healer version and Warlocks should go for the Intellect version (if one of these at all) but someone had to do some quick math eventually.

Kommentar von davenrothz

Is the proc really 35%? if so, the proc would be up constantly. Somehow I don't believe this is correct.

Kommentar von 113593

This is the best restoration druid trinket available now I believe, with the majestic dragon figurine coming in second.

Kommentar von 31275

Well actually as I see it the spirit will always be better than the intellect one for resto druids.
Using the following formula: 5 * 0.005575 * Spirit * Square_root ( Intellect )
And now using fallnangel stats, just as an example:

with just GotW I'm sitting at 958 int and 990 spirit. The +90 int is a better choice.

It shows that:
Current regen: 5 * 0.005575 * 990 * sqrt(958) = 854,15
Using +90 int: 5 * 0.005575 * 990 * sqrt(1048) = 893,37
Using +90 spi: 5 * 0.005575 * 1103 * sqrt(958) = 951,64
(notice I've added 113 instead of 90 to the spirit, because of the +15% spirit off talents).
So spirit will (at these and almost any other real stats) the best choice here for mana regen (not to mention the spell power gain)

Kommentar von 169435

You get more mp5 from int than that. Remember that as int increases your mana pool increases, the more mana regen from paladins/spriests. Also (as a druid maybe you can) you can't forget that int also increases crit.

As a discipline priest the int version is far superior. I am also fairly confident that int would be superior for a holy priest too! Int is a very powerful stat now.

Effective mana gained from replenishment from +90 int.

90 int * 15 mana * .025/sec * 5 seconds = 168.75 mana/5 while casting

This in effect makes int a better mana regen stat for druids than spirit. By a lot. As long as you have the replenishment buff.

Kommentar von EvilTomte

Effective mana gained from replenishment from +90 int.
90 int * 15 mana * .025/sec * 5 seconds = 168.75 mana/5 while casting

This in effect makes int a better mana regen stat for druids than spirit. By a lot. As long as you have the replenishment buff.

Shouldn't it be a lot less than 168.75 mp5 for 90 int?

1350 mana (90 int) * 3.5% = 47.25 mana returned over 14 seconds.

3.5% as Vampiric Touch aka Replenishment gives you 0.25% of total mana per second, over 14 seconds. 0.25% mana every 14 seconds equals 3.5% mana returned.

I might be completely off track now though, it's late. G'night.

edit 8 days later: Original poster (quoted) deleted his post.

Kommentar von 93128

Using the formula linked by Apollonaris, you always want more Spirit for regen. I can only think of 2 occasions where you'd want the Intellect one. First, you somehow managed to end up with a 1/2.5 intel to spirit ratio, or (more likely) your mana pool just plain sucks, in which case the intellect trinket will give you 1350 mana.

I guess ~.5% to crit may be better for soloing quests too...

These examples are without the procs, just the standard 90 stat, but the proc will just make the gaps wider.

Ex 1.
500 Int
1000 Spi
779 Regen (No trinket)
846 Regen (Int trinket)
849 Regen (Spi trinket)

Ex 2.
1000 Int
1000 Spi
1102 Regen (No trinket)
1150 Regen (Int trinket)
1201 Regen (Spi trinket)

1000 Int
500 Spi
551 Regen (No trinket)
575 Regen (Int trinket)
650 Regen (Spi trinket)

Kommentar von 263081

There are currently 4 decks that you can get from the Darkmoon Faire for level 80's.
Darkmoon Card: Berserker!
Darkmoon Card: Illusion
Darkmoon Card: Death
The fourth card has 4 different versions, they have the same proc ability but the stat bonus is different:
Darkmoon Card; Greatness (90 Agi)
Darkmoon Card: Greatness (90 Str)
Darkmoon Card: Greatness (90 Spi)
Darkmoon Card: Greatness (90 Int)

Kommentar von 292710

Is the proc affected by buffs, or is it from base stats? For example, if pre-buffs you have more intellect, but then after you are buffed you have more spirit, which stat will proc?

Kommentar von 358631

It seems to me that this would be a good option for frostfire mages in 3.1 because of the 35% (55% glyphed) of spirit crit rating bonus from Molten Armor. That means that if glyphed, this would grant 214.5 crit rating when proc'd. Makes it respectable for frostfire mages. Probably not the best, but if you happen to have a noble's deck sitting around...

Kommentar von 346013

how would this fair for a holy priest?

Kommentar von 339146

this trinket used to proc off Fel armor ticks.

this trinket will no longer proc off Fel amor healing ticks as of new patch (which in a way is better... u dont waste ur 45 sec internal CD on ticks but straight onto DPS)

Kommentar von 125795

When you heal or deal damage you have a chance to gain Greatness, increasing your Strength, Agility, Intellect, or Spirit by 300 for 15 sec. Your highest stat is always chosen.(35%proc, 45sec internal CD)

300spirit for 15sec every 45sec = 100 passive spirit

100+90= 190 spirit on this trinket

1 spirit = 1.17 druid spirit = 0.1755spellpower and 0.3366mp5
190spirit = 222.3 druid spirit = 39 spellpower and 74.8mp5

MP5 trinkets for druids(sorted by mp5 ofc):
250mp5 Spark of Hope +20.5 spellpower
80mp5 Soul Preserver +75 spellpower
75mp5 Darkmoon Card: Greatness +39 spellpower
72mp5 Figurine - Sapphire Owl
70mp5 Darkmoon Card: Blue Dragon
70mp5 Majestic Dragon Figurine +37spellpower
69mp5 Living Ice Crystals
67mp5 Tears of the Vanquished
66mp5 Show of Faith +140 spellpower
60mp5 Spark of Life +73 haste rating
57mp5 Binding Light +68 spellpower
55mp5 Spirit-World Glass +29 spellpower
54mp5 Energy Siphon +68 spellpower
53mp5 Sif's Remembrance +110spellpower
39mp5 Valonforth's Remembrance +10 spellpower
36mp5 Winged Talisman +58 spellpower
34mp5 Je'Tze's Bell +106 spellpower
33mp5 Soul of the Dead +2% crit
32mp5 Talisman of Resurgence +100 spellpower
29mp5 Talisman of Troll Divinity +15 spellpower
28mp5 Cannoneer's Morale +47 spellpower
27mp5 Pandora's Plea +136 spellpower
26mp5 Memento of Tyrande +62 spellpower
25mp5 Darkmoon Card: Illusion +100 spellpower
21mp5 Bangle of Endless Blessings +5 spellpower
20mp5 Forethought Talisman +111 spellpower
12mp5 Futuresight Rune +68 spellpower

Kommentar von Random771452

has anyone seen how this works for mages in combination with the 2 piece tier 9 bonus? 70% of spirit becomes crit with Molten armor, I can imagine this proc would send a mages crit through the roof for a good amount of time and their dps along with it.

Kommentar von 338600

Since there is no priest information here I'll add in what I think about this trinket on a priest.

In the old TBC days I stacked spirit on my priest and it really helped my heals in raids. Sure there was the very occasional time a little more mana would have helped but 95 times out of 100 I was casting outside the five second rule so the more mana regen helped a lot.

Fast forward to WOTLK and the spirit based mana regen nerf. And now with 3/3 points in Meditation this trinket really comes into it's own. And having 3/3 points in Enlightenment and Spirit of Redemption can't hurt either.

What this all means is these talents help you keep your Spirit as your highest stat. And when the trinket procs you can get some serious mana back. Which you can use to burst out a few heals quickly if you need to or allow you to keep healing a little longer before having to use your Shadowfiend cooldown or a mana pot for more mana.

Is this better than a + to spell power trinket for a healing priest? That is debatable. If you found a +100 spell power trinket you'd have a hard choice. As you'd get bigger heals with that trinket. But for me if you have a good + spell power trinket and this one you'll be laughing. And I'm just talking about the passive +90 spirit here. The proc is just a super bonus.

Is this better than the Greatness + intel card trinket for a healing priest? I think so yes. As the rest of your gear should have a goodly amount of intel on it to make sure you have enough mana. As there is a lot of good + intel gear. And good + spirit gear is hard to find.

So should a healing priest invest in getting this trinket? Whether you are holy or disc or a a little but of both (As my priest is) I think should be on your shopping list. And even if you're one of those healing priests who does not like to stack the most spirit they can find it allows you to have some spirit and frees up your other gear pieces to have non spirit stats. Like intel, spell power and stamina.

Kommentar von 671595

really dumb question probably, but once cata hits wouldnt the spirit and int versions of this become much more useful?

Kommentar von 704257

I am Greatness: Bask in my glory, my power, my authority. Let them guide you to victory!

Greatness symbolises the desire to stand above others and excel in all aspects, and employ your wisdom to rule them.

Authority, leadership and command infuse this card in the upright position.
Inflexibility, corruption and egocentrism infuse this card in the reversed position.

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