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Kommentar von Mihir

Proc has a 10% chance and a 75sec icd, according to http://elitistjerks.com/f78/t105429-cataclysm_mechanics_testing/.

Kommentar von 103436

I picked up the heroic version of this trinket in Stonecore the other night. Very nice for my Ench Shaman, but would love to have it for my rogue also.

75sec ICD sounds about right. Unless my math is incorrect that should put it on a average of 342avg agility output.
Comparing this @ 285HR ~342avg agi -vs- Fluid Death 321HR ~380avg agi, puts it dead on for a level 346 trinket.

Making this a trinket that I wouldn't get to upset over hanging on to until something better dropped and save my Valor Points for other items.

Kommentar von 153083

looking to pick this up over Skardyn's Grace as this trinket shows no shared cooldowns with any other items.
Hyperspeed Accellerators being my main reason to avoid the 300+! shared cooldowns on skardyn's.

Has anybody tested it to see if this shares a hidden internal cooldown with any other items?

Kommentar von 746417

This thing never procs for me. I'm not sure if it's sharing an internal cooldown with something else or not. I took all of my gear off other than my bow and the trinket and it still never proc'd. I then got rid of all of my talent points and it was finally working as it should.

Kommentar von 747370

I was wondering if having this trinket and Left Eye of Rajh would be ok, Do they share a same cooldown or anything I should know about?

I had Tia's Grace before this one.

Kommentar von 749936

Regarding this Trinket: It's much better than Grace of the Herald for any hunter that actively attempts to stack buffs & procs together. Given that, Grace will give you a larger increase in DPS in most scenarios where you're not micro managing. However, this trinket will definitely has the potential to increase your DPS substantially more if you can time it with your Haste buff(s).

RE: Other Hunter

Just to let you know, you should be able to hit that 15-16k mark in Baradin Hold quite easy as an SV Hunter. If you're sitting @ 11k, you're just plain doing something wrong.

Couple suggestions:

Get your Haste to a comfortable level ~10% so that it fits in nicely w/ your Explosive Shot CD.
Stack Crit over Mastery no matter what.
Take gear w/ Crit/Hit/Haste anywhere you can. Always reforge excess Hit rating & Mastery to Crit or Haste.
Be sure you're at the Hit Rating Cap for the content you're facing (8% for Raids, 6% for Heroics)
Stack your cooldowns (i.e. Macro Call of the Wild w/ Rapid Fire, Pop Haste Buffs when Trinkets proc, Use a potion like "Potion of the Tol'vir" during your Rapid Fire.

By doing things like that, you should be able to get your dps comparable that that Hunters. Personally, I've done 17k in Baradin Hold w/ an avg ilvl of 341.

If you need more resources, try checking out www.warcrafthuntersunion.com

Kommentar von Crupt

I've been farming this guy once a day for the past month on my rogue, 30+ kills on him now. Trinket finally drops and it gets ninjaed by a tarded fury war. FML

Kommentar von thesandman87

Got kicked from a pug in reg, I know this is the heroic, but be aware, I was with a guild group me and 4 guildies of another server. There Rouge rolled need and I rolled need to replace my Whisperfanged Skull on my hunter. I won the roll and was told to give the rogue the key or find another group. Be aware you hunters once again, we arnt entitled to things if a rouge wants them.

Kommentar von Pogmahon

I got this as a druid tank the other night. No one else wanted it.

I use it for two reasons. First... the Hit allows me to keep my other gear free from hit, so I can keep the cap.

Second, the 1710 agility proc gives me 7% dodge when it proces (243 agi = 1% dodge).

Not to mention the boot to crit, which procs Savage Defense more often.

It is a pretty nice trink for a Bear.

Kommentar von 762011

@ doctorgray

10% haste is a waste... you will be delaying your next ES if you try to cycle in another CoS at that haste level

approximately 6% haste is ideal to get your CoS down to a 1.6 sec cast time to fit within the 5 sec CD for your next ES

this information is readily available at www.elitistjerks.com or your listed www.warcrafthuntersunion.com

Kommentar von 749936

Actually, 10% Haste isn't a waste at all, and 6% Haste will only get you to a 1.667 Cobra cast time. This is theoretically the perfect cobra cast time if you only wanted enough Haste to allow you to fit three Cobra's in between your ES.

HOWEVER... Due to lag and delayed reaction times, that 1.667 cast time actually figures out differently for each person. It could be as high as 1.65 or as low as 1.6. Given that, you'd need a haste value of about 10% in order to get to the more comfortable level of 1.6 seconds.

Now, for the reasons I believe 10% Haste isn't a waste at all... Even after you've gotten your cobra cast time to a comfortable level, Haste continues to average it's value at about the same as Mastery. Therefore, there's no reason for someone to stop stacking Haste at your magic number. You may as well continue to stack it beyond that to have a cushion, as there's no realistic benefit to moving that haste over to mastery.

This all assumes that you have reforged any excess secondary ratings to crit when possible.

Kommentar von 747325

I'd love to get this item for my Enhancement shaman, sadly every time stone core pops up its always dungeon in progress and they are always past the boss that drops this trinket. most of the time its a group stuck on ozruk.

Kommentar von 672553

Would this better than grace of the herald heroic I am a surv hunter?

Kommentar von 749936

The difference is quite small, (~50 dps or so), but most people agree that this trinket is better than Grace of the Herald.

Here are a few tips and tricks to consider:

1. The Key is better than the Herald is most situations, especially if you can make use of the hit rating on the trinket. Keep in mind that you can reforge 40% (~110) of the hit rating to crit rating.

2. The Key is much better if you time your haste buffs (Heroism, Rapid Fire, Beserking, etc) to coincide with the proc from the trinket.

3. If you dont need any hit rating, and are bad at stacking procs and buffs, you're better off w/ the Grace of the Herald.

4. Both trinkets are better than the epic tol'barad factions' trinkets.

Here's a breakdown of the approximate order of trinkets for hunters

1. Fluid Death
2. Essence of the Cylclone
3. Tia's Grace (Heroic)
4. Prestor's Talisman of Machination
5. Key of the Endless Chamber (Heroic)
6. Grace of the Herald (Heroic)
7. Unsolvable Riddle

You should know that the difference between many of these is very small and may vary from spec to spec. I am guessing that most people will either equip Tia's w/ Key in the short term and Tia's w/ Fluid in the long term. Essence of the Cyclone is much better than Prestor's due to the massive difference between crit and haste. Fluid is better than Tia's by much more than 40 agility due to the much greater value of hit rating versus mastery.

Kommentar von 614832

If you're a rogue and can get your hands on this, do so. (Assuming you haven't gotten any epic trinkets yet.)

This is the 2nd blue BiS trinket for a Combat rogue after . ( holds the 3rd place.)

For Assassination rogue, holds the 1st place, still being on the 2nd place, and being on the 3rd place.

And nobody really uses Subtlety for PvE, so I don't think I should even mention it here.

Edit: Some minor corrections, also added stuff.

Kommentar von Iilrane

Interesting bit: When Final Key triggers, you'll get a sound effect like a key in a (noisy) lock.

Kommentar von Zanno

This trinket is a myth! I've been spamming this dungeon every day for 2 weeks, and never seen it drop. The ring however seem to be 100% -.-

Kommentar von Wrashis

Sadly, this does not fit in your keyring.

Kommentar von 749936

The only way this trinket is competitive at all anymore is if you're in an extremely short fight (30s or so) and can get full use of the proc with little to no downtime and line it up with a haste proc.

You're much much better off going w/ Fluid Death via Justice Points + Ricket's, DMC, EotC, or the Firelands rep trinket.

That said, It is still the 2nd best trinket found in dungeons, with Tia's Grace coming in first.

Kommentar von Whitexx5

Ah, for this to drop and a little hunter's face to light up...
Then the Death Knight rolls upon it and wins, stating that it needs hit-rating.

Tragic.

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