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Kommentar von Chaosmancer

Firemages are gonna love this trinket!

Kommentar von Wafs

The trinket is currently bugged. Despite the text, this is proccing off my helpful spells. I'm a moonkin and when I'm lifeblooming myself and it crits, I get this trinket's buff - Dire Magic .

Kommentar von 296425

Appears to have a 2 minute ICD.
1926 spell power for 20 seconds, 100 second of no uptime = 385.2 spell power.

Kommentar von 666721

You all got it wrong, it's for enhanchement shamans ;)

Kommentar von 611332

Tested this trinket a bit today; as far as I can tell, the ICD is 80 seconds.

Kommentar von 607499

It's wrong to say it's a fire mage trinket, just because most classes value these and those stats.
First of all, most specs value different stats.

For instance, at the moment, crit > haste > mastery for a destruction warlock if they're over a DoT tick cap.
If they're about to get to a new DoT tick cap, haste is more worth than crit until you hit enough haste to get an additional tick.
However, in most cases (assuming raid buffs giving haste, dark intent and Improved Soul Fire), destruction warlocks won't reach one of the caps at the current tier content so they only need 581 haste rating until they can get 1781 to have Corruption get another tick.

That means for most destruction warlocks in heroic dungeon gear at ilvl 346 and some scattered 359 epics, crit is just plainly better than haste and mastery is below that again because neither crit nor haste will reach high enough values to be devaluated compared to mastery.

Now, that's just a defence for destruction warlocks having a justifiable reason to get this trinket because crit, for them, is very good. In fact, assuming you can't get intellect and you're hitcapped, it's the best stat they can get on a trinket.
However, when you consider effective values, classes do scale differently and people here are right in the fact that fire mages really scale well with stats, far better than a destruction warlock (who scale poorly in comparison). A fire mage gets nearly twice the benefit but then again, you need to ask yourself how a mage compares to the warlock in terms of performance as well.

TL;DR: Valuable fire mage trinket but good for other casters reliant on crit. Don't just go giving it to a fire mage just like that, consider multiple aspects before you hand it out. Use common sense and check performances.

Kommentar von Rorixis

"Bell of Enraging Resonance can now trigger from any damage spell instead of only critical strike."

Makes this trinket even more awesome than it already is.

Kommentar von 283444

Sure you can't fault non-mages for wanting this trinket, but there are also two options for every caster class that don't require any raiding at all, namely Stump of Time and DMC: Volcano, both of which are easily attainable before your guild even gets to this boss. DMC: Volcano takes about a week and 10k gold to put together, depending on your server. Stump of time takes a few weeks but any smart player will be doing TB dailies the second they hit 85.

Kommentar von Perfectmage

In 4.0.6, this trinket will proc off all spells instead of spell critical strikes which will please RNG fire mages

Kommentar von Chaosmancer

According to EJ the proc got an uptime of roughly 20-22% depending on class/spec, which can be translated into 385.2 - 423.72 average spellpower.

Kommentar von 435435

Does anyone here have solid information regarding this trinket's and Strunk der Zeit proc's internal cooldown? Do they share the cooldown or can I take advantage of them both, therefore requiring me not reforging and gemming hit.

Kommentar von 783897

lots of fire mages downrating perfectly accurate posts from locks here for no good reason.

ej and simcraft have this trinket as BiS for warlocks so please stop with the downrating of warlock numbers, you big meanies!

just because mages "value crit more than" blah blah blah... warlocks in BiS gear want this trinket to go with dmc:volcano as together they are BiS.

downrating perfectly valid points for your own selfish mage reasons, tisk tisk...

Kommentar von 588056

Despite what many think crit isn't horrible for shadow priests either. I use this trinket and it effectively gives me 20k dps.

Kommentar von Pledioch

I know everyone has good intentions and they're just excited that at least someone can use this trinket, but I want to clear something up in the interest of bettering my fellow mages.

Crit rating is not necessarily better than Haste rating for a Fire Mage.

For my fire mage, the relative stat values of haste and crit, respectively, are 1.23 and 1.15, which means I reforge to haste. But there are too many things going on that affect this to simply say that Crit > Haste (or vice versa).

Item - Mage T11 2P Bonus will devalue crit a little bit for a fire mage and boost haste's value, but Item - Mage T11 4P Bonus will boost the value of crit and devalue haste. Also, Ignite munching is currently falsely deflating the value of crit right now, but that's getting a band-aid in 4.1 that will probably boost the value of crit again.

If you're lucky enough to run with an Arcane Mage, can totally screw up your gearing. For example, my relative haste & crit values with Focus Magic are 1.23 and 1.15 but without Focus Magic my relative stat values would be 1.12 (haste) and 1.17 (crit), pulling haste below crit and devaluing both. Furthermore, if I had then Mastery would actually be my best secondary stat.

tl;dr Haste can be as good or better than crit. Look at your gear, use tools like Rawr or even the dummies, and figure it out for yourself.

To conclude, this trinket (assuming the same cooldown) is equivalent to the Strunk der Zeit unless you can't get your Hit Rating right with the Stump.

Kommentar von 138583

Item - Mage T11 2P Bonus will devalue crit a little bit for a fire mage and boost haste's value, but Item - Mage T11 4P Bonus will boost the value of crit and devalue haste. Also, Ignite munching is currently falsely deflating the value of crit right now, but that's getting a band-aid in 4.1 that will probably boost the value of crit again.

I dont see how multiplying haste modifier of 10% on your main nuke is devaluing the haste. Its actually making it more valuable as every point of haste is now worth as much as 1.1 points of haste (provided that you only cast main nuke, since you not its still an increase of haste value, not exactly 10% but not less than 5.).

I also fail to see how 2p tier 11 devalues crit. It sure can for a frost mage going for soft cap but there are no crit caps for fire, the more the merrier.

I dont see how Dark intent can make mastery your main stat at all either. It seems you are using your tools wrong.

Kommentar von Sesh

Procs from healing spells.

Therefor my guild allows healers to roll on this trinket as well. I was surprised and delighted that when I had lost my other healing trinket and was forced to heal with this one that it proced early and often.

Its not BIS for healers, but it is more of an upgrade than green or blue trinkets you may be wearing into BWD. This originally replaced a 308 spirit trinket from a quest in TH for my over-hit-capped boomy set.

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