Kommentare

Kommentar von Cleptor

Seit Patch 5.1 kann dieser Fisch auch in Fischschwärmen gefangen werden.
Ich selbst habe den Fliegenden Tigerfisch seit Patch 5.1 bereits in einem Krasaranglöffelstör-Fischschwarm im Tal der vier Winde gefangen.

Der fliegende Tigerfisch ist einer von drei Fischen, mit denen man Quests startet, zu deren Belohnung die Rufsteigerung bei Nat Pagle und Die Angler gehört. Bei Abschluss dieser Quest erhaltet ihr 350 Ruf mit der Fraktion Die Angler und 500 Ruf bei Nat Pagle.

Die anderen beiden Fische sind Fintenfisch und Stachelfischalpha. Alle drei Fische werden benötigt für den Erfolg Pandarianischer Angler.

Dieser Fisch hat die Eigenschaft „Einzigartig“, man kann ihn also nur einmal im Gepäck haben.

Nachdem man den Quest abgegeben hat, kann man den Fisch erneut fangen, jedoch lässt sich der Quest dann erst nach dem Zurücksetzen der täglichen Quests erneut annehmen.

Kommentar von Xenatina

Die Infos zu Patch 5.2 kann ich nur positiv bestätigen.

Nach 3x Angel einwerfen am Halbhügelmarkt (58,46) direkt neben dem dröhnenden Ben hatte ich ihn ganz ohne Köder, nur mit der Holzangel.

Kommentar von JulesPeace

Seit 5.2 ist die Droprate 5%.

Kommentar von Tahal

Anscheinend wurde der Ruf den man bei Nat Pagle erhält bei Abgabe der Quest erhöht, denn ich habe heute 720 Ruf erhalten. Da ich aber in einer 25er Gilde bin und einen Menschlichen Char besitze, habe ich 20% mehr erhalten. D. h. das normalerweise 600 Ruf durch die Quest erhalten werden kann.

Kommentare

Kommentar von Greenosed

A Flying Tiger Gourami? That sounds like it would be a great addition to my aquarium! Just have to make sure the lid is on tight!

Kommentar von 91650

Could be a reference to the force known as the Flying Tigers; they were a bunch of American airmen who went to China to fight the Japanese.

Kommentar von Quantity

Caught one in the dojani river of krasarang wilds in open water.

Kommentar von Nooska

As Nat Pagle says when you turn it in, it can be caught in any freshwater in Pandaria (seeing as it can fly).

Kommentar von MyPetsAreEpic

One of the 3 items that can be fished up in Pandaria and starts a daily quest: Fliegender Tigergurami, Fintenfisch or Stachelfischalpha.

Rewards reputation towards Die Angler and Nat Pagle.

Kommentar von uriahworld

Caught my Flying Tiger Gourami in a Swirling Pool Wirbelnder Teich

Kommentar von Ekcim

Caught one in the river next to Halfhill, Valley of the Four Winds with a fishing skill of 329 and a +100 lure.

Kommentar von ildios

I can confirm that it can be caught again once you have handed it in that day you will get a message "You have completed that daily quest today." if you try to start the quest again.

Kommentar von 315792

These can be caught anywhere in inland waters. The other two might be coatsal water or also inland. Not sure. FOund this and Nat Pagle's comment stated basically that the gouramis are only caught inland.

Kommentar von 1011683

Caught in Woods of the Lost, pool between waterfalls, in a redbelly mandarin school. Coords 47, 26.

Kommentar von Synit

There are 3 Daily Fish, as the name implies they can only be turned in once daily. It is however possible to catch one of them again after you turned it in, even on the same day. If you already turned it in you will get the message: "You have completed that daily quest today"

Fliegender Tigergurami - Can be cought in open freshwater areas in Krasarang Wilds and Valley of the Four Winds. (Good spot is Dojani River, just north of Anglers Wharf) (Coordinates are 64:28 in Krasaran Wilds)

Fintenfisch - Can be caught in the salt water areas where you can catch Riffkrake. (A good spot is Anglers Wharf - Just fish from the boat Nat Pagle is sitting in.) (Coordinates are 68:44 in Krasaran Wilds)

Stachelfischalpha - Can be caught at Inkgill Mere in Kun-Lai Summit. (If you have done the quests you will have waterwalking on while fishing) (Coordinates are 72:87 in Kun-Lai Summit)

All 3 of them can also be caught from schools of fish in the suggested areas.

Be patient even with the increased dropchance, they can still take a while to catch.

All of them gives the following upon turn in:

1 Geringes Amulett des Glücks
350 Rep with Die Angler
600 Rep with Nat Pagle

Edit: Changes to reflect the changes to reputation.
Edit 2: Changes to rewards of quest since patch 6.0. (No longer offers valor points upon completion of the quest)

Kommentar von Constantzia

I always get mine while fishing for Sugar Minnow and Golden Carp at the Arboretum while for the Order of the Cloud Serpent dailies.

Kommentar von RedheadTobie

I was fishing in Krasarang Wilds while I was in a raid group, and I got this. So being in a raid doesn't hinder you from fishing for the rare fishes.

Kommentar von Euphemia

Fished this up while fishing outside of pools, in the general questarea (just southeast of Thunder Cleft in Krasarang Wilds) for the quest Shocking!. At the time, I had 528 fishing level, and was not using any fishing "buffs" of any kind.

// Edit: Fished it up again, during the same quest today (Oct 10th).

Kommentar von PeonPower

Caught this with 354 fishing, so no need to have high level fishing for these at least. Only took around 20 casts.

Kommentar von Sasmina

Caught this while fishing at The Arboretum in The Jade Forest

Kommentar von maxtrobg

It is all about luck....
I was prepared to cast 1k + according to the comments ... but i got it on the 14th cast in the lake of Dojani river.. GG
going for the otehr 2 fishes

Kommentar von knumpcy

Flying Tiger Gourami- For Quest
1:40 am EST -5:00
Level 87
Valley of the Four Winds: "The Gilding Stream outside Halfhill 57,53" Open water.
574 Fishing + Lucky Fishing Hat, Nat Pagle's Extreme Anglin' Boots, Bone Fishing Pole, Sharpened Fish Hook

Kommentar von ullrapollo

There are three different fish, can you turn in one of each every day or just one of the three each day?

Kommentar von Kerastrasza

I've found fishing right off the dock is the best spot to find the Mimic Octopus and a small lake in Townlong Steppes around 65, 37 for the Flying Tiger Gourami. I've fished them both quickly in those locations on several occasions where other spots I've had no luck at all.

Kommentar von Zivy

Just fished Flying Tiger Gourami out of a Jewel Danio school in Vale of the Eternal Blossoms.

Kommentar von 1039504

High level fishing is not a requirement. My fishing was 232 at the time. I also caught this fishing The Arboretum in The Jade Forest

Kommentar von 368129

Used to gain reputation with Nat Pagle

The reputation is used to purchase:

Nats Hut (Exalted / Best Friend)

Friendship Levels

Stranger: 0-8400
Acquaintance: 8400-16800
Buddy: 16800-25200
Friend: 25200-33600
Good Friend: 33600-42000
Best Friend: 42000-42999

How to gain Reputation:
Standing with Nat Pagle is gained by catching daily fish. Fintenfisch and Fliegender Tigergurami have a 1% droprate. Stachelfischalpha on the other-hand has a 2% droprate. Just like real life, Best Friend status takes 84 fish hand-ins. This means it will take between 28 and 84 days depending on how many of the three fish you turn in each day. The daily fish cannot be caught from pools, only open water.

Once you have catch a daily fish you should stop fishing its water until you have delivered it to Nat Pagle. Each daily fish is unique, so you cannot catch another while you have the first in your inventory. You can however move to a new location and catch your next fish before handing all three in. Once a daily fish has been turned in, you may fish it up again, although you will not be able to hand the new fish in until the following day. This allows you to catch three fish hand them in, catch the three fish again so for the following day all you have to do is hand them in. This is useful if you have other things planed or you got lucky with today's catch and had some spare time.

Rewards for each hand-in:
1 x Lesser Charm of Good Fortune
5 x Valor Points
350 x The Anglers Reutation
500 x Nat Pagle Reutation

The Daily Fish:

Fintenfisch - Caught from any of Pandaria's open coastal waters. Anglers Wharf is a good spot, after competing dailies or handing another daily fish.

Water Areas No-Junk Skill
Coastal Dread Wastes, The Jade Forest, Krasarang Wilds, Kun-Lai Summit, Townlong Steppes, Valley of the Four Winds 700

Fliegender Tigergurami - Caught from all areas of inland open water in Pandaria, except waters near Sha-touched lands (where Spinefish Alpha are caught).

Water	Areas	No-Junk Skill
Inland	The Jade Forest	650
Inland	Krasarang Wilds, Valley of the Four Winds	700
Inland	Townlong Steppes	725
Inland	Kun-Lai Summit, The Veiled Stair	750
Inland	Vale of Eternal Blossoms	825

Stachelfischalpha - Caught from inland open water near Sha-touched lands, primarily in southern Kun-Lai Summit and inland Dread Wastes. Also possible to catch from The Jade Forest's Widow's Wail cave and small areas of (coastal) water around Townlong Steppes' Niuzao Temple.

Water Areas No-Junk Skill
Costal Townlong Steppes (Niuzao) 625*
Inland Dread Wastes, The Jade Forest (Widow's Wail), Kun-Lai Summit (Sha-Touched) 625*

* Stachelfisch infested water has unavoidable grey items, Abgeschabte Gräten and Entweihter Kadaver. You can however catch Stachelfischalpha with any of the unavoidable greys. Fishing skill below 625 in these areas will cause "Failed Casts" and produce any of the 8 common junk items (Treibholz, Leere Muschel, Kränklicher Fisch, Verhedderte Angelschnur, Zerlumpter Stoff, Gerissenes Segel, Wassergras and Welker Seetang) and 5 uncommon junk items (Leere Rumflasche, Alter Stiefel, Stein, Ast and Wasserschnecke). If you have the required "No-Junk" skill you will not catch any of the 13 junk items.

It may take sometime to see each fish, with a 1% drop rate, after fishing 200 fish there is only a 86.6% chance that you will have seen the daily fish. Just be patient and keep fishing. I have personally caught both the Stachelfischalpha and Fintenfisch on the fist catch. I have also personally spent 5 hours fishing for Stachelfischalpha until I finally got it, I actually started to think it was removed from the area I was in.

Useful Macro:
/use Anglers Fishing Raft
/cast Fishing
/use Weather-Beaten Fishing Hat
/run UIErrorsFrame:Clear()
This macro will maintain your Anglerfloß and lure from your Wettergegerbter Angelhut while fishing with one click.

Kommentar von Niinami

I must ask, does higher fishing skill increase my chances of getting one of these?

Kommentar von Aliandrin

This fish has a better chance of being caught in the daytime. After much experimentation, I'm now sure of this. Acid-test it before you downvote me.

I'm also fairly sure that Spinefish Alpha has a better chance to be caught at nighttime, and Mimic Octopus has the best success rate in twilight time.

Kommentar von Notaturnip

For those of you interested in getting the most out of your time, you can fish these up around 46.8, 24.5 in Valley of the Four Winds, which happens to be the spawn point of Geisterhafter Pandarenfischer.

Kommentar von Taoma

Note that this fish is UNIQUE, meaning you can have only one in your inventory/bank. You can, however, catch one, turn in the quest to Nat Pagle and then catch one more to turn in the next day.

Kommentar von Treebloom

I just caught a Fliegender Tigergurami while fishing for the Stachelfischalpha around Inkgill Mere. Location was the southern-most edge of the water on the map of Kun-Lai.

Kommentar von Banba

It's all in hand of the God of RNG.
Usually it takes from 2 to 30 catches for me to fish it out.
Well, did stop counting on 350 and I'm still fishing in hope to get one :O)
Dunno if it's bug or what, but so far it's a rarest fish for me (fisherman since vanilla with all achi's and trophy's)

Kommentar von KushoLion

Okay, I've heard people say you can only catch the rare fish by fishing in pools, and others by saying only by fishing in open water. Can someone please clarify so I know one way or the other or if it doesn't matter? I don't want to waste my time fishing incorrectly.

Kommentar von aernath

If you're using TomTom, this may be useful if you put it in a macro:

/way Krasarang Wilds 68 44 Mimic Octopus
/way Krasarang Wilds 64 28 Flying Tiger Gourami
/way Kun-Lai Summit 72 87 Spinefish Alpha

Kommentar von 763117

If anyone cares... You don't need to be +85 to fish it up, was able to get it on my (at the time) 30ish monk in Peak of Serenity. Although I still can't take the quest.

Kommentar von moferamon

Ok how is this fish a daily fish quest when the rate of catching it sucks.

Kommentar von 445261

These can be fished up while in a raid.

I sacrificed my time/sanity for Science! and tried to fish one up while waiting for raid to start tonight. I actually got lucky and caught one rather quickly. You can also accept the quest and turn it in while in raid, so you can basically do this entire quest while in a raid group. But in case you were wondering, you can definitely catch Fliegender Tigergurami and the other 2 Nat rep fish while you're in a raid.

Kommentar von 1052193

Personally I think Blizzard are being ridiculous with the drop rates for this set of dailies. It's supposed to be a little extra fun, but if you actually add up the hours your life slips away from you. I finder that rather sinister of them myself. Anything to keep us hooked* and paying the subs.

*pun intended.

So, purely on the maths...

0.4% drop rate - 1 in 250 per fish.

So, 750 cast a day - 3 cast a minute - about 8 hours a day for a month

Blizzard have put a drop rate for a daily quest for rep for a poxy hat that's a FULL TIME JOB !

OK, often you can get one in the first few casts, the second one, maybe not, the third - especially the mimic - can, as others have mentioned, take several hours...

When you add the lunacy of all the other dailies, especially for rep. it ceases to be fun and has the hallmarks of being designed to entrap certain mindsets.

Anyway, this /qq isn't going to catch me the damned flying gourami, so back to casting...

/cry

Kommentar von j3ff

Not sure if it's a bug or not, but I have caught this item 3 days in a row very quickly while fishing up sugar minnows for the daily cloud serpent quest. I am fishing in the stream near the bridge directly west of the quest giver. All 3 days I have caught this item in less than 5 minutes.

I have 600 fishing and am using a +30 dragon fishing pole and +75 bright baubles.

Whether anything can be concluded from this, I don't know...maybe Blizzard had some sanity and upped the drop rate on these items a little bit.

Kommentar von tale

So as I was fishing for this at the south end of the pool at Krasari Falls and nearing in on 200 casts when I started wondering just how unlucky I was. Came here to find the drop rate and see that apparently no one has caught one there. Fluke? Well, maybe still just unlucky. Using wowhead's drop rate of 0.4% and the simplified version of the binomial probability formula for Bernoulli trials, the chance of catching this fish for a given number of tries is 1 - P(notFFG) ^ #tries. P(notFFG) is the probability of NOT catching the Flying Fish Gourami, or 99.6%. That works out to the following:

Tries	Success Chance	Tries	Success Chance
50	18%	350	75%
100	33%	400	80%
150	45%	450	84%
200	55%	500	87%
250	63%	750	95%
300	70%	1000	98%

I finally gave up at 300 tries at the Krasari Falls pool, so there was still a substantial 30% chance that, if it were catchable there, then I was just somewhat unlucky for failing to catch it. However, over all of the hundreds of thousands of trials that get submitted to wowhead it is telling that none have registered a catch there, and when I moved over to the Dojani River I caught it on my 8th cast.

This suggests that the catch rate of 0.4% for the zone is probably understating the real chance because it is counting catches from locations which will never succeed. El's Extreme Anglin' puts the chance at 1%. That's still pretty poor but improves the time to catch one substantially. The abbreviated table at a 1% chance per catch looks like this:

Tries	Success Chance
69	50%
100	63%
200	87%
300	95%
400	98%

If you believe the 1% figure, on average it should take you 69 catches. If you're up over 200 catches, you're having a really rotten run of luck.

Kommentar von Lingzhao

I would like to add that this can, indeed, be caught from a pool. Just caught one in a Jade Lungfish school (Jade Forest) while using Ancient Pandaren Fishing Charm (Fishing Skill 600, +30 Kal'uak Pole, +3 Fishing Line, +100 Lure.)

Kommentar von Johalon

My 70 Panda (550 fishing skill) caught Flying Tiger Gourami from a Tiger Gourami School at Peak of Serenity, Kun-Lai Summit. She has access to that area when doing her daily. It is no surprise that the game prevents her from accepting the quest as yet because of her level.

Kommentar von krangieanderson

fished this up today in the river south of Serpents Heart in a Jade Lungfish POOL.

EDIT* After turning into Nat, caught another in a pool near Paw'don about 10 min later, so it seems it may have a pretty good drop rate :)

Kommentar von Warloean

These can be caught from pools now most likely as of 5.1 It would also stand to reason that they have a higher drop rate as I got two within twenty minutes

Kommentar von pyrah

All 3 Rare fish now give 600 rep each (Patch 5.1)

Kommentar von tweetifun

As of 5.1 All 3 rare fish can now be caught from pools; not just open water!

Source: https://twitter.com/TheCrafticus/status/273565476548902912

Kommentar von cheriea99

I found Pat Nagle in Anglers Wharf at coords 68.4, 43.4. Anglers Wharf is in Krasarang Wilds, which is the most southern zone within Pandaria. Hope this is helpful.

Kommentar von 846188

I just caught this in the pools outside the Temple of the Jade Serpent.

Kommentar von Jarrek

I just got mine near the summer fields in Vale of Eternal Blossoms from a Jewel Danio school :D

Kommentar von contorted

Caught in a pool in Yan-Zhe River in Valler of the Four Winds while fishing up Emperor salmon.

Kommentar von XinR

Lots of great comments about when & where folks have caught the fish. Since it is a random catch, it makes sense that peeps have caught it in.. UH! random areas!.. All posts seem to be green so for anyone to say "this can't be caught <here> or <there>" well that's cuz they didnt catch it there!. When I see a BLUE post saying "these fish can only be caught <here> or <there> then it will carry some weight. .til then? I'll stick with knowing they (the FTG, and the other 2 Nat Pagle like for rep) are catchable in Pandalandia period.
Happy fishing all! and just as IRL with fishing,, Patience is indeed a necessity!

Kommentar von Dust

While fishing for the rares in order to raise your rep with Nat Pagle, a good habit to get into is trying for the Stachelfischalpha FIRST each day, as you have approximately double the chance of catching it than the other two rare fish -- the Fliegender Tigergurami & Fintenfisch, which can take an extremely long time to catch.

*Edit to add: as of patch 5.2, the rare fish all have an increased catch-rate and don't take nearly as long to fish up.

Kommentar von Pureownage

First time i got one out of a pool from Jewel Danio, it was in The Summer Fields, in Vale of the Eternal Blossems.

Kommentar von hmrhead

***Update for 5.2***

This route still works. Its just much much faster now. Instead of an hour, it's more like 15-20 minutes.

So I believe I have found a relatively painless and somewhat profitable way to farm up the three daily fish. Improvement suggestions are welcome. This is just how I've done it for the past three days. It's taken less than an hour to get them all, and I've made some fairly decent money on my server doing it.

1. Go to the lake just north of Grookin Hill in Jade Forest. Lots of Jade Lungfish schools here. Fish those up until you get the Fliegender Tigergurami. Stop fishing freshwater.

2. From there, fly west into the summit and fish the Sha touched waters around Inkgill Mere. Fish in the Stachelfisch schools until you get Stachelfischalpha. Stop fishing sha touched waters.

3. From there, fly east across Jade Forest until you reach coastal waters. Fish any school of fish you see on the coast while heading south. Sometime before you reach the Anglers location, you should fish up a Fintenfisch. If you dont get it before you get to the Anglers, just keep going. I've never had to make an entire loop around Pandaria to get it done.

It should probably be noted that I am at 600 fishing and I use the following equipment.

Wettergegerbter Angelhut
Meisterliche Angelrute der Kalu'ak
Glühwürmchen
Uralter pandarischer Angelglücksbringer

Today's run of this route got me all three fish in less than an hour. And between vendor trash and items sold on the auction house from sealed crates as well as fish I wasn't going to use, a little over 700 gold.

Happy fishing everyone!

Edited because I fail at formatting.
Edited again to add Uralter pandarischer Angelglücksbringer that I picked up a couple days ago. I can also confirm that the quest fish for Nat Pagle do NOT count as one of the two fish from this proc. Tonight, in one cast, I fished up a Sealed Crate, a Riffkrake, and a Fliegender Tigergurami.

Kommentar von 416240

My Fishing skill is 428. Went to the big pond in The Secret Aerie just north of Grookin Hill in Jade Forest. There were two Tiger Gourami pools there. It only took me about 4 casts to get the Flying Tiger Gourami

Kommentar von Aquifel

Coming in 5.2:

The chance to fish up Flying Tiger Gourami, Spinefish Alpha and Mimic Octopus has been increased.
Reputation gains from bringing rare Pandarian fish for Nat Pagle to examine has been increased.

Improvements on both ends :D.

Kommentar von Saro

You do NOT need a high fishing skill to catch this.

I just caught one on first cast from a Tiger Gaurami school at Peak of Serenity with 21 skill in fishing and no extra from lure or pole. I suppose I could never have caught it in open water with that skill, but as casts in pools always succeed, it is indeed possible to fish for even with the lowest of skills.

Kommentar von Flappers

The Flying Tiger Gourami and Spinefish Alpha are it seems a higher drop rate from Pools of the same fish. I have been grinding open water until today when I fished a Spinefish school, 1st cast, I dropped the Spinefish Alpha. I went to fish the Mimic Octopus. 50 casts in open water off Anglers Wharf and I got the drop. ( This in my experiance has had the lowest drop rate, somtimes up to 180+ casts ) I went back to Kun-Lai Summit and fished what i thought was a Spinefish School ( I fished near the Flight Master, diddnt realise the pools there were Tiger Gourami Schools ) and on my first cast, dropped the Flying Tiger Gourami. Coincidence ... ?

Kommentar von 1083520

I think the drop rates are a bit off. I routinely catch the daily fish in less than 50 casts, I'd say. I'm not particularly lucky, either. I farm mount instances forever like everyone else.

Kommentar von JulesPeace

Since 5.2 Droprate is 5%.

EDIT: For all of the downvoters: I confirmed this by fishing it every day since 5.2 and on the PTR. The range of fishes was between 1 and 75. Arithmetical mean is 21,8, median is 17. So it's VERY likely to be 5%.

Kommentar von combatboots7

Don't want to waste time fishing if you don't have to?
/run if IsQuestFlaggedCompleted(31443) ~= 1 then print("Go catch a Flying Tiger Gourami.") end
You'll get a message if you haven't yet turned Flying Tiger Gourami in for the day.

Kommentar von OldWolf2

Is there a prerequisite before these fish appear?

I have leveled from 1- 370 in Krasarang Wilds (over 1000 casts) and am yet to see a Pagle fish.

Kommentar von BEZERK805

I fished the Flying Tiger Gourami from a Jade Lungfish school in The Jade Forest.

Kommentar von Szokhee

To verify the increased drop chance from pools I have collected my catch/cast statistics for 2 weeks of fishing.
I was ONLY finshing from POOLS and always in the same ZONE and AREA.

Fishing location:

Flying Tiger Gourami
Zone / Area: Krasarangwildnis - Krasarang River
Pool types: Kaiserlachs & Krasaranglöffelstör

Spinefish Alpha
Zone / Area: Kun-Lai-Gipfel - Inkgill Mere
Pool types: Stachelfisch

Mimic Octopus
Zone / Area: Krasarangwildnis - (South beach areas) Narsong Trench & Sandy Shallows & Kre Krak
Pool types: Riesige Mantisgarnele & Riffkrake

Catch Statistics:

Fish / Week 1	Day 1	Day 2	Day 3	Day 4	Day 5	Day 6	Day 7
Spinefish Alpha	15	41	33	6	13	50	8
*Flying Tiger Gourami*	1	80	8	3	7	1	74
Mimic Octopus	4	7	7	3	5	63	3

Fish / Week 2	Day 8	Day 9	Day 10	Day 11	Day 12	Day 13	Day 14
Spinefish Alpha	7	40	1	96	4	1	25
*Flying Tiger Gourami*	15	41	18	21	6	54	3
Mimic Octopus	8	62	16	26	15	33	14

Breakdown per type

Flying Tiger Gourami
Min. casts: 1
Max. casts: 80
Avg. casts: ~24

Spinefish Alpha
Min. casts: 1
Max. casts: 96
Avg. casts: ~24

Mimic Octopus
Min. casts: 3
Max. casts: 63
Avg. casts: ~19

In overall the drop chance for me during this 2 weeks was roughly 4-5% so it really seems so that the increased 5% drop chance after patch 5.2 is valid for pools too (I guess the drop chance for pools and open water is the same).

Kommentar von Elsiaida

Is there a level req for the quests for Nat or can anyone do them if the get a fish?

I just noticed Knumpcy had already answered my question

Kommentar von Mondoblasto

Caught one at Shado-Pan Monastery after about 60 Tiger Gourami for Fish of the Day. Hopefully client picked it up and can add to the map.

Kommentar von juniorbay

Nat Pagle's Daily Fish for 5.2

Drop chances have been increased dramatically over previous patches varying from the first few casts to several dozen. Skill boosting equipment appears to have a helpful effect.

Mimic Octopus can be caught in any coastal waters where Reef Octopus is present including some channels.

Flying Tiger Gourami can be caught in any body of fresh water that contains Golden Carp. Can also be caught while on The Anglers daily quests and The Order of the Cloud Serpent daily quest.

Spinefish Alpha can only be effectively caught at Inkgill Mere in the southeastern section of Kun-Lai Summit.

All three daily fish quests can be fished again immediately after turning them over to Nat Pagle however can not be turned in until global daily quest reset.

All three can be caught in both schools and open water and in instances.

The rewards for each are:
11 Gold 40 Silver
1 Lesser Charm of Good Fortune
5 Valor Points
350 Reputation with The The Anglers
600 Reputation with Nat Pagle

Reputation can be increased by 10% with either Mr. Popularity guild buff as well as Darkmoon Top Hat.
The buffs do stack giving 720 reputation from Nat Pagle and 420 reputation for The Anglers

Kommentar von Garmheim

As of Patch 5.2 and as others have noted fishing up this and the other two rare fish has gotten much easier. I finally got to Best Friend with Nat a week or so ago and have noticed a phenomenon that I put down to Blizzard's sense of irony/gloating. Now that I don't need another Flying Tiger Gourami ever, I fish them up with no effort at all. My first though 4th casts in any inland pool is pretty much guaranteed to pull out the rare fish. Yes, it's 11g 40s and 5 Valor plus a Lesser Charm of Good Fortune but there's also a component of imagining the imp of the Random Number Generator whispering, "Hey! Remember how you spent all that time fishing these up when you needed them? Remember? Here! Have another!" :)

Kommentar von sixxfoxx

I just fished mine up outside of the Stormstout Brewery in the water to the left of the Instance. I got it on my 14th cast. My fishing skill is 509 and No fishing pole necesarry. There are alot of Brew Frezied Emperor Salmon pools there.
Good Luck and Happy Fishing!(##RESPBREAK##)2##DELIM##Sas148##DELIM##

Kommentar von trekker9876

the only way I have gotten these rares is from kill Kraaken, or whatever his name is , from fishing up the big pool

Kommentar von dira

I just picked up fishing skill to cook from level 1. Fished this up in the river next to Halfhill after getting 20 odd carps.

Kommentar von 1128957

So I followed Synit's instructions as he said. I went to Angler's Wharf in Krasarang Wilds and tried fishing for the Mimic Octopus just outside the Wharf on a rock. I cast the line two times and got nothing, so I started thinking 'Why don't I try fishing from the Reef Octopus Pools for the guild fishing achievement?'. So I went and flew around to find some pools and I didn't find any so I decided that was just a waste of time. So I went back to the Angler's Wharf, stood on the dock of it, cast the lure and got the Mimic Octopus in my first cast.

After that I went to the Dojani River just north of the Wharf for the Flying Tiger Gourami, just like Synit suggested. Doesn't really matter where you are, I got it in my second cast again.
I caught the Flying Tiger Gourami fish once before while fishing for the Golden Carp in a river in the Jade Forest for the Order of the Cloud Serpent daily.

I guess I was lucky at the other 2 fishes because it took a few casts before finally getting the Spinefish Alpha fish. I caught it once before at Inkgill Mere in Kun-Lai Summit when I was fishing for the Brawler's Guild quest item. There were a lot of pools up now aswell so I just fished in those and got it in about 28 casts.

My fishing level was 600+110. I used the Mastercraft Kalu'ak Fishing Pole (30+ fishing when equipped), the Weather-Beaten Fishing Hat which you can obtain from the daily fishing quest rewards in Orgrimmar/Stromwind or Dalaran (5+ fishing when equipped & 75+ fishing lure every 10 minutes - the lure lasts for 10 minuts aswell) and the Nat Pagle's Extreme Anglin' Boots obtained from the Booty Bay fishing contest (5+ fishing).

I hope this helps. Good luck fishin'! :)

Kommentar von kingthorin

I got sick of not being able to remember if I'd done a Nat Pagle turnin for a given day so I put together this macro:

#showtooltip Mastercraft Kalu'ak Fishing Pole

/run for k, v in pairs({ SpineFish = 31444, Mimic = 31446, Gourami = 31443}) do print(format("%s: %s", k, IsQuestFlaggedCompleted(v) and "\124cff00ff00Yes\124r" or "\124cffff0000No\124r")) end

Obviously showing your fishing pole isn't required, but I wanted things to be obvious for me. If you so choose simply use the part starting at /run.

Kommentar von subx3r0

You can fish up all 3 quest items, and turn in each once per day. I did however stumble upon something quite puzzling today. I usually fish up Fliegender Tigergurami in the area of Thunder Cleft, then head north and fish up Stachelfischalpha in the lake around Binan Village and finally heading back to Angler's Wharf to fish up Fintenfisch.

However today, after fishing up my Fliegender Tigergurami for the day, I headed to Binan Village for Stachelfischalpha and ended up fishing in a Tiger Gourami pool and caught a second Fliegender Tigergurami. I didn't know that you could get more than one of these quest items, but you can only turn one in per day still, which sucks.

I thought that items like this, once acquired, you couldn't again until the quest reset (dailies reset, ect.).

Kommentar von 1146079

I just wanted to point out that I was on my new pally (level 31 *yesterday*) with a fishing skill of 15 at the time, and I had absolutely nothing for fishing, not even a pole, and I caught the flying tiger gourami next to the fishing trainer at Halfhill (yes, I dragged my lowbie butt with the help of a mage (port) and someone with a 2 person mount to Halfhill to fish - to see if the chance of golden carp catches really was almost 100% at low fishing levels - which it was *almost - there were a few other fish, but only like 1/30 were something else, and there was no junk at all* When I caught it I was all happy and mad at the same time, because I caught it in like three casts (took 2 hours on my main) , HOWEVER, I wasn't able to accept it and turn it in because my level was WAY too low I guess *even though it doesn't have a level req. on the actual item* So much for grinding the Nat Pagel rep early - it will sit in the bank till I can turn it in I guess... :( either way, Leveling fishing seems a LOT faster this way, skill up every other fish (currently 300, started yesterday, didn't fish for long) when I went to SW to do the fishing daily, I fished up like 10 fish and didn't even get one point O.o, then back to every other fish when I went back to Halfhill. Plus the area around the fishing trainer doesn't have any mobs that I have found so far to kill you, however there still is the random hordie that says "31? MWAHAHAHAHA /gank" so that is the only problem I've had with it so far. Anyways, I just thought I would share that incase anyone else was looking for a highly profitable area to level fishing as a lowbie. (a stack of the golden carp goes for around 40G on my realm, and is easy to get in a few min. which is great for low level toons just getting started. Just make sure you have someone to help you get there or it could drive you crazy trying to find a way there.) Good luck and happy fishing!

Kommentar von rainsford23

The Flying Tiger Gourami can now be caught easily in the Ruby Lake on the Timeless Isle. The Ruby Lake is the red lake (on your map) to the North-East.

(Shoot an albatross when they get low at the Celestial Court, then ride them until you are over the lake, then attack them a lot - they will stop moving forward - and kill them. Drop into the lake. Swim to shore. Taa daa.)

I can fish up a Flying Tiger Gourami in under 20 casts almost every day. Never seen the other fish here though.

Kommentar von InDimLight

This fish can also be caught from the Ruby Lake (Loc: 63,27) on top of the mountain north of the timeless isle. It is also the spawn location for the rare Garnia. For more information on how to get there, check the comment tab at Garnia.

Out of 200 catches, following is the result:

Golden Carp: 95, 47.7%
Jewel Danio: 46, 23.1%
Krasarang Paddlefish: 24, 12.1%
Empror salmon: 22, 11.1%
Sealed Crates: 6, 3.0%
Flying Tiger Gourami: 5, 2.5%
Reef Octopus: 1, 0.5%

I'm not sure about the required minimum Fishing Skill but I'm already at 600.

When I use Meisterliche Angelrute der Kalu'ak and Wettergegerbter Angelhut, the percentage of catching the Flying Tiger Gourami becomes 7% (1 out of 15 catches)

Thanks

Kommentar von 131064

Ok, so now all 3 Nat Pagle fish are supposed to be able to be gotten in Timeless Isle.

Mimic Octopus on the West coast (by Horde camp for me, not sure if Alliance is same)
Flying Tiger Gourami up in the Ruby Pool

Does anyone know the location to fish up the Spinefish Alpha on Timeless Isle?

Kommentar von Corchlan

Interestingly, I've caught this one once in the same lake down by Shado-Pan Fallback in Kun-Lai-Gipfel where you catch Stachelfischalpha. (Normally I start there for Stachelfischalpha, then fly north to the Shado-Pan Fallback lake to get Fliegender Tigergurami, but one time the Fliegender Tigergurami dropped while I was still working on the Stachelfischalpha.)

Kommentar von xb3au

I usually catch all three fish types in an hour or so. Today, however, it took me at least an hour to fish up the Flying Tiger Gourami alone. A bit daunting (and not fun) in my opinion.

Kommentar von eracer71

I came across a trick maybe. I had fished up one of these Pagle fish and in the span of a few minutes fished up another. I really didn't want to lose it and as I have auto loot on and knew I couldn't have two in my bags at the same time I kept clicking it's icon. What happened is it went straight into my mailbox and a note from the Postmaster. Like when you are raiding and have run out of room sometimes the Postmaster is kind to you and sends you the epic items later. Kinda nice as fishing is so meh. Good Luck all.

Kommentar von PriestessAur

I was fishing the sha-infested areas in the Vale of Eternal Blossoms and caught this, a Flying Tiger Gourami, instead of a Spinefish Alpha. It seems like they did not update the fish table in that zone.

Kommentar von 806096

Ok this will help alot of ppl. I noticed that if u get the mimic octopus quest u get incresed drop rate on the flying tiger gourami. i have ben farming for weeks and have tryied one before the other and today i just comfimed that while u have mimic octopus quest ill take just a couple casts if not in the first to get this one.

Kommentar von HazelNutty

I have a sneaking suspicion that the drop rate of this and the other Nat Pagle rep fish has been quietly increased once again sometime around 6.0.2. For about five days now I've caught all three fish every day in less than 15 casts (from pools, for reference) compared to 30-70 casts it used to average. I'm either extremely lucky or something (good!) is up.

Kommentar von Metaneira

It's possible that the drop rate of these wasn't so much increased as the chance to get them increases with your fishing skill. Might still be worth throwing on the pole and a lure, even if you're already at 700 skill.

Kommentar von Naniel

Be sure to check the Anglers for daily quest, Schockierend!, is basically free daily quest & rep with high fishing skill.(Because they easily CAN be fished at the same spot)

Kommentar von inhighspeed

There is no reason for the drop rate to be so low. Sure, it shouldn't come up on the first cast, but 25 minutes is ridiculous, unconscionable. It's effin' ridiculous GDI. Harrumph.

Kommentar von 920140

This reputation is unique. It carries on to Warlords of Draenor, if you run the quest chain to get Nat Pagle as your follower. It will be easier to get mounts, gear, etc... all related to fishing.

Kommentar von 163020

The weirdest thing happened. Both this and Spinefish Alpha had an incredibly low rate for me. Spinefish Alpha took more than 100 catches to get and mind you, I post from 6.2. While I was trying Flying Tiger Gourami I said WTH, why don't I try a log off. And what do you know, right after the log off, on the 1st catch, I got the Flying Tiger Gourami. Coincidence? It would be hard to be so explicit. You never know, but still I think I've hit a quirk since we all know it doesn't take more than 20-40 catches lately usually.

Kommentar von Aphelyite

Not sure if it's been stated before or not, but I managed to catch a Gourami in open water while on the "Shocking!" quest. Didn't think you could find one without a pool previously. (Took forever to get one at all today though.) Not sure if either has a higher droprate than the other.

Kommentar von 822354

I don't know, but the drop chance is pretty screwed up for this particular fish.
The other day I got one after the third attempt, a day before after 20, and before that after 78 minutes! Today, will see about today, I'm having 68 minutes
of continuous fishing and haven't dropped yet :( . Just
Golden Carp, Emperor Salmon, Golden Carp, Emperor Salmon, Krasarang Paddlefish and so on.
The drop chance for other two fishes needed for Nat Pagle reputation seems ok.

P.S. I got one after 71 minutes, with 835 fishing skill, in Dojani River...This is just...stupid. 44 drop chance my ass

Kommentar von Cartouche

Yesterday I caught a Flying Tiger Gourami and a Mimic Octopus in the river in Jade Forest right below the Serpent's Heart standing nearly in the same spot at 47,67 and 46,72. The Mimic Octopus is not marked on the Wowhead map there.

I thought I had caught a Gourami standing there so I went to turn it in and saw it was the Octopus. So I went back to nearly the same spot and caught the Gourami as well. If you're catching Red Belly Mandarin, you can catch the Gourami. If you're catching the regular octopus, you can catch the Mimic Octopus. It seems.

Kommentar von JClay

Just an observation if you are having issues catching these daily fish. I was having issues catching my second and third fish of the day... I thought maybe accepting the quest for the first one was causing me not to be able to catch the remaining. I dropped the quest and second cast got my second fish.

Kommentar von eKatherine

These quests no longer drop.

Kommentar von projecteulogy

As someone who's mained a DK for YEARS, I never saw the real need for this rep.. Now. I'm kicking myself since I decided to main another class in Legion and not having the water strider is a REAL pain in the butt.. A water walking mount is truly invaluable now.(Like the Sky Golem being used to level herbalism!)

Kommentar von Bunjino

I can confirm that as of patch 8.0 these do still drop, took about 20 casts compared to the pre 8.0 days of about 2 - 8 casts with fishing skill at 119/100.

Kommentar von fourthsheep

Managed to get a Flying Tiger Gourami while doing the quest Schockierend!.

Kommentar von mike2lane

Fished up this item today at 32.7, 43.9 in Kun-Lai Summit after about 20 casts.

Kommentar von davemanvell

So I managed to get one of these today on my first cast as a level 14 monk.

When I finished monk training and went to Stormwind and turned level 14, I received the Zen pilgrimage spell which takes you to the Pandaria, Peak of Serinity temple. There is a fishing trainer there so I learned fishing but oddly it did not list any skill level (Did not even say level 1) nor what type of fishing. There is water on the other side of the compound from the fishing trainer as the water by the trainer is too shallow.

Threw line in the water and first cast got a Flying Tiger Gourami. I fished there for a few minutes and got several Tiger Gourami and Golden Carp. Oddly my fishing skill did not go up any while there, it only started to go up when I went back to Stormwind to fish.

I cannot start the quest as it says I am not high enough level and it's soulbound so into the bank it goes till I can get to regular Pandora at a high enough level.

Kommentar von mRshykid

Pretty sure 8.3 broke the 3 daily items. It takes me 100+ casts for each quest item, this is ridiculous.

Kommentar von Foxpaw0

As of Sept 2020, I've been doing these every day for a few weeks and these comments were incredibly unhelpful.

The drop rate isn't consistent with abandoning any other rare fish daily. I could abandon 2/3 and the third could still take forever or be instant.

The BEST way to go about getting all 3 in the shortest time is just buckle down and fish.

~~~~~HOWEVER~~~~~

The Flying Tiger Gourami has always been fished up FASTER from Tiger Gourami schools which are right next to Spinefish schools in Kun-Lai (it seems obvious, but for some reason isn't mentioned anywhere). You knock out 2 fish in the same fishing pond, saving tons of time. After weeks of trying to get it from Emperor Salmon schools like another comment said, please don't waste your time doing that.

Kommentar von Lucidtragedy

Just wanted to add that it is possible to catch this fish from Hyper-Compressed Ocean. Caught one just a few moments ago.

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