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Kommentar von dgonchild

Cant wait to see what this looks like and what the actual stats are like. Hopefully the difference betwee t5 and t6 will be noticeable, unlike the minute differences between t4 and t5.

Kommentar von Geno

One of the few things I don't like about this set is the lack of red gems. It now becomes a question of "Do I fill the yellow and blue sockets with stats and crit, or stack +damage red gems?"

I would have liked to see at least one or two red sockets to make it easier, but I guess those are the breaks. Overall, though, good looking set in terms of stat allocation and such. The bonuses could have been better.

3 seconds on Moonfire over the course of a 3 minute fight, if you refresh at the last possible minute is a total of 3 Moonfires. Not to mention, it's 3 less high-chance crits you're going to have if you do that. The good part, though, is you save a grand total of 1350 mana. That's at least a good chunk of mana to save.

The 5% crit on Starfire, though, will be much appreciated on boss fights, as to Wrath spam not only will bring your aggro insanely high, but drain you a lot quicker, as well. Definately a nice addition for PvE raiding.

Kommentar von 46112

Is it me, Or does blizz LOVE enforcing use of moonfire?

Kommentar von 46443

druids are going to have to dump a few balance talent points to get the resto 15% mana regen during combat due to the complete lack of MP5

this is really dumb considering moonkins get no clearcasting.

Wrath is the best dps for a balance druid but they give a bonus to starfire
i would prefer more MP5 and wrath bonus cus that would be better for dps
and an extra 3 seconds on moonfire is going to be like an extra 300damage every 15 secs?
T4 set bonuses are better imo

Kommentar von 34204

You're not considering the 5% spell crit set bonus when you say this set's bonuses are useless. With proper talents, that's a net +14% crit chance on Starfire in Moonkin Form...

You're also wrong about the lack of MP5 - this has 39.75 mana per five seconds if you have Dreamstate, not including sockets.
Intensity also allows 15% of the Spirit to work in combat, which any serious PvE Moonkin should already have.

(Also, as to what was said about PvP, you are not playing your build well if your tactic is primarily Moonfire spam...)

It's not that Moonfire does more damage that makes the 1st set bonus desirable - as Notharah explained above, it gives you more time to cast Wrath and Starfire before you have to refresh Moonfire.

Kommentar von 48711

Sorry, I just browsed the other perks and minuses of the other tier sets before I opened my beak.

The point of having multiple 5 piece sets, with a 2 and 4 piece bonus, is so you can mix and match as people have said. Currently, I have zero pieces of my tier 4 moonkin set (the life of a hybrid... they need a healer, I respec, and the stupid gloves drop. Argh). My raid buffed + damage, with blues and epics I have acquired through heroics tops off around 900. In some ways, I think my + damage may go down, but the main drawback to the boomkin is our mana-efficiency.

We have a few talents to help us: Dreamstate and Intensity (I think that's the Resto one... brain not working). They require that we have lots of Intel. and Spirit.

Now, that and our mp5 is how we regen, save once the new patch comes in, and we can melee. Once I don't get cleaved by every boss known to man, we will have yet another way to regen mana - grab yourself a feral staff, and have at. Plus OoC, I can get 3K mana back in under a minute with the moonkin bonus.

So really, mana regen, we can do.

Mana-efficiency, we're not THAT bad overall. Quick DoT's, and slow and steady spells - good stuff. I will say though, the set bonus for moonfire will decrease your overall damage - but you don't spend mana as fast. That's what I really think Blizzard is trying to compensate for. This way, we can keep nice, steady damage. We have 3 aggro reducing things:

1. Cower.
2. Come the next patch, subtly now affects all spells (thank GOD)
3. Death.

So, I think Blizz, with these sets and how it's working, is for a nice mix and match so we can deal with the longer fights. Tier 4's bonus (2 set) is amazing. 120 mana back? Thankyouverymuch. The real question, really, will be what other bits of the other sets we'll use:

Tier 6 has a nice damage boost VS the other sets. It's more mana efficient with moonfire. Yet the Tier 5 lets you heal for cheaper.

<shrug>

Flexability - you can tailor your set bonus's to what you want to do. What more could we, a Hybrid class, ask for?

Well, I could use a better aggro dump. Death is really killer on the repair bill, and when I went full balance... icky. It's why I still don't use Wrath of Cenarius.

Anyways, sorry for the confusing post. I had a point in there, somewhere. Sigh.

Kommentar von 26387

Video of all Tier 6 armor sets in action: http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=97.0

Kommentar von 38090

i feel your pain. it took me quite awhile to find a guild that will let me raid moonkin. (prolly becaue i keep stealin the cloth out form under the unsuspecting locks, mages, and shadowpriests ;) even so, i get to nuke ALOT and heal a bit for a nice change of pace in certain cases. true im not in an uber raid guild, we are still putting the finishing touches on kara, but hey im having fun. all that aside, this set might actually finally compare with cloth... (doubt it but hey i can dream right?) ill definitely pick it up when i get there. i like to keep a leather set for when i need armor. but if im wearin leather, chances are im offtankin SOMETHING, in which case i would wish the 4 piece set bonus was for wrath.

Kommentar von 11216

it pains me to see that moonkins have to wait until they're able to get tier 5 and 6 gear so they can get a decent amount of +spell hit. its not that important, but im sure other moonkins will agree how annoying it is to waste so much mana on a resisted starfire, ent. roots etc.

Kommentar von billymx

I love this set (well would love to have rather). The 180 int also gives you ~45-46 spell damage & 18 mana/5 w/ Lunar Guidance & Dreamstate. Still, I personally prefer +spell crit/hit gems (maybe some spell penetration) overs just +spell damage, seeing as how you do much greater damage on crits ohh well, can always switch/change gems to get great mixed results too right ;).

As a moonkin I haven't found it too hard to group w/ other casters, however I tend to pass over almost/all items I don't need (i.e. an upgrade I could switch out right then), just remind them you could help to heal if needed and if not, your healers/mages/locks get a nice 5% spell crit bonus.

Kommentar von 79738

As far as what gems you want to put in this, keep in mind that by the time your getting this gear you'll get slightly more value out of 1 spellcrit than you will out of 1 spelldamage. So orange +spelldam/+spellcrit gems will outperform pure red spelldamage gems even before the socket bonus, and the socket bonus is cream on top.

The blue sockets are a bit weaker, but even then a glowing nightseye in the pants socket will give you a total of 7 spelldamage and 6 stamina compared to 9 spelldamage from a runed living ruby... 2 spelldamage for 6 stamina isn't a bad trade. Or go for a dazzling Talasite and take 2 spelldamage, 4 int, and 2 mp/5, which also compares strongly to a flat 9 spelldamage on long fights.

Epic gems are another story however... the orange, red, and yellow epic gems all have solid options... blue, green, and purple epics are all somewhat disappointing from an offense-casting perspective. Using the +3 spelldamage from the living ruby to crimson spinel upgrade as a standard of comparison, the blue epic is 1 mp5 over the blue rare, purple you gain 1 spelldamage/1 stam, green you gain a mere 1 int. None of these bonuses compare to the +3 spelldamage for red, +2 int OR +2 spellcrit from yellow, or 1 spellcrit/1 spelldam from orange. Honestly, if I had access to the epic gems I'd probably take the minimum number of blues to trigger my meta gem (filling up the shoulders first since it gives the best blue to socket bonus ratio, then chest, and legs last), and give up on the socket bonuses beyond that unless I had some desperate need for more stamina.

(Edit: And the set bonus will decrease the raw dps of moonfire since you'll get the initial burst less often, but it increases the mana efficiency and lets you cast another starfire before refreshing it, which increases your overall damage. So it's a good thing unless you're moonfire spamming, which will get you kicked out of any sensible raid anyways.)

Kommentar von Sgtown

This set is terrible. The 4 piece bonus of T5 means that in just about every scenario, 1 T6 + 4 T5 > 5 T6. Save your DKP for offset items or weapons.

Kommentar von 93517

I wonder, with patch 2.4 coming out soon it would be very possible to get both of the 4 set bonus from tier 5 and tier 6.

only exception would be if they added more set bonuses to tier 6 but if not the 4 piece bonuses from both could push boomkin dps to new heights

Kommentar von Dalus

Chestpiece drops off Illidan Stormrage in Black Temple (End boss)

Gloves drop off Azgalor in Mount Hyjal (Fourth boss)

Helm drops off Archimonde in Mount Hyjal (End boss)

Leggings drop off The Illidari Council in Black Temple (Eighth boss)

Shoulders drop off Mother Shahraz in Black Temple (Seventh boss)

Bracers drop off Kalecgos in Sunwell Plateau (First boss)

Belt drops off Brutallus in Sunwell Plateau (Second boss)

Boots drop off Felmyst in Sunwell Plateau (Third boss)

Kommentar von 134341

by adding more pieces to the tier 6 set it may actually be beneficial to keep wearing part of the tier 5 gear enabling you to get both 4 piece set bonuses. now this is just me but that sounds pretty nice
tier 5 set bonuses
2: when you shift out of moonkin form your next regrowth costs 450 less mana
4: increases your starfire damage against targets afflicted by moonfire or insect swarm by 10%

tier 6 set bonuses
2: increases the duration of moonfire by 3 seconds
4: increases the critical strike chance by starfire by 5%

no i don't know about you guys but i really like the way all that sounds

Kommentar von 135587

il probably prefet 4 piece S4 (when it comes out) for wrath spam and new 4 pieces set bonus proc, and 3 Piece T6 from sunwell and 1 from BT for 5% starfire crit, all with 10int gems. but thats just me.

Kommentar von 146819

For the most part, this is an excellent set for Balance Druids. However, there is one problem that I see that no one has pointed out yet: there is NO +Attack Power or +Strength.

This might not sound like a problem, but the proc on the Moonkin Form's melee attacks restores mana based on the Druid's attack power. Currently, the only way to get more attack power is to use the right kind of gems (like http://www.wowhead.com/?item=33131 or http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30587), or to find a high-damage weapon.

For a set designed for Balance Druids, you'd think Blizzard would put in bonuses for ALL the stats that Druids need in Moonkin Form.

Kommentar von 166365

Just because a class HAS a talent available to them doesn't mean it is viable in a raid setting, which is exactly what this set is intended for. If a ranged DPS is doing his/her job and doing as much damage as threat will allow, he/she will be pushing 120% of the MTs threat. To run into melee range would be suicide. Yes, I agree, meleeing for mana is a very beneficial part of moonkin form, when it is used as its supposed to be: for leveling, solo questing, and farming.

Kommentar von FinnrSlayer

Tier 6 For Dummies!(Where they drop)
Head Piece - Hyjal Summit - Archimonde
Gloves Piece - Hyjal Summit - Azgalor
Shoulders Piece - Black Temple - Mother Shahraz
Leggings Piece - Black Temple - Illidari Council
Chest Piece - Black Temple - Illidan Stormrage
Bracer Piece - Sunwell Plateau - Kalecgos
Belt Piece - Sunwell Plateau - Brutallus
Boots Piece - Sunwell Plateau - Felmyst

______ of The Forgotten Conquerer - Priest - Paladin - Warlock
______ of The Forgotten Protector - Warrior - Hunter - Shaman
______ of The Forgotten Vanquisher - Mage - Rogue - Druid

You can exchange the Tokens to gear at Enterance of Hyjal Summit.
Also Exchangable for Season 2 Parts or S3 BG parts

Kommentar von 146819

Just because a class HAS a talent available to them doesn't mean it is viable in a raid setting... meleeing for mana is a very beneficial part of moonkin form, when it is used as its supposed to be: for leveling, solo questing, and farming.

What do you have against Moonkin Form for raiding? It's just as viable as any other Talent, and a lot of Casters would like the extra crit chance. Besides, why should we stand back and let one of the benefits of the form go to waste; meleeing would give back the mana we need to start casting again, and we'd still keep the damage coming.

If it's about threat management, we can just drop into Cat Form and Cower while the tank's getting aggro back; if you have to stop DPS for some reason, you might as well do something that would help the group.

Kommentar von 166365

What do you have against Moonkin Form for raiding?

sorry, let me clarify..i have nothing against moonkin form for raiding, i currently raid as a moonkin--the crit aura for your group is amazing. What i am against is a ranged dps being in melee range of a raid boss. And yes this is due to aggro issues, but your method of management is severely ineffective. First of all if you draw aggro from a raid boss, more than likely your not going to live long enough to go to cat form and hit cower--you will be one shotted more than likely. Second, if you did manage to survive a blow from said raid boss you are severely gimping your dps by wasting all this time switching forms and cowering. Third, whatever mana you just gained from the very few hits you got off before you drew aggro would be wasted by switching to cat form. Overall meleeing for mana is not an efficient form of mana management. Instead you should pot early and pot often, if you are really gimped on mana regen, talk to your healers and raid leaders outside of raid and let them know that you will may require your own innervate until your gear improves to the point to where you are no longer an OOMkin.

Kommentar von 104402

With the new balance tree talent nature's splendor (increases the moonfire dot duration by 3 seconds) the 2 set bonus becomes pretty worthless
Not to mention the glyph of starfire which increases the duration a lot more than the 3 seconds from the set bonus or talent

Kommentar von laurenlawlz

The belt listed in the set doesn't look right, despite "Thunderheart" being in it's name. I believe Gürtel des Sichelmonds is the belt that goes with this set.

Kommentar von Naschrakh

I just revived a tauren restoration druid who's been dead for four years. He wears this set. I can't for the life of me remember myself raiding that gear, but I'm glad he wears it, because it looks AWESOME on tauren druids!

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