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Blizzard Announce Changes To Talents, Specialization and Mastery

[posted 2010.07.07 um 11:55 by fewyn]

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At level 10, you will be asked to specialize into a single talent tree.

You can only spend talent points in that tree until you have spent 31 points in the tree.

This specialization will give you your chosen tree's signature ability from the get-go.

Each tree will only have 7 tiers. Live currently has 11 where you need to spend 51 points to reach the bottom.

The number of talent points available at 85 will be reduced to 41, compared to the 71 points we currently have at 80.

Mastery will no longer be tied to how many points spent. You'll receive flat bonuses based on your primary tree.

When we first announced our design goals for class talent trees back at BlizzCon 2009, one of our major stated focuses was to remove some of the boring and "mandatory" passive talents. We mentioned that we wanted talent choices to feel more flavorful and fun, yet more meaningful at the same time. Recently, we had our fansites release information on work-in-progress talent tree previews for druids, priests, shaman, and rogues. From those previews and via alpha test feedback, a primary response we heard was that these trees didn’t incorporate the original design goals discussed at BlizzCon. This response echoes something we have been feeling internally for some time, namely that the talent tree system has not aged well since we first increased the level cap beyond level 60. In an upcoming beta build, we will unveil bold overhauls of all 30 talent trees.

Talent Tree Vision

One of the basic tenets of Blizzard game design is that of “concentrated coolness.” We’d rather have a simpler design with a lot of depth, than a complicated but shallow design. The goal for Cataclysm remains to remove a lot of the passive (or lame) talents, but we don’t think that’s possible with the current tree size. To resolve this, we're reducing each tree to 31-point talents. With this reduction in tree size we need to make sure they're being purchased along a similar leveling curve, and therefore will also be reducing the number of total talent points and the speed at which they're awarded during the leveling process.

As a result, we can keep the unique talents in each tree, particularly those which provide new spells, abilities or mechanics. We’ll still have room for extra flavorful talents and room for player customization, but we can trim a great deal of fat from each tree. The idea isn’t to give players fewer choices, but to make those choices feel more meaningful. Your rotations won’t change and you won’t lose any cool talents. What will change are all of the filler talents you had to pick up to get to the next fun talent, as well as most talents that required 5 of your hard-earned points.

We are also taking a hard look at many of the mandatory PvP talents, such as spell pushback or mechanic duration reductions. While there will always be PvP vs. PvE builds, we’d like for the difference to be less extreme, so that players don’t feel like they necessarily need to spend their second talent specialization on a PvP build.

The Rise of Specialization

We want to focus the talent trees towards your chosen style of gameplay right away. That first point you spend in a tree should be very meaningful. If you choose Enhancement, we want you to feel like an Enhancement shaman right away, not thirty talent points later. When talent trees are unlocked at level 10, you will be asked to choose your specialization (e.g. whether you want to be an Arms, Fury or Protection warrior) before spending that first point. Making this choice comes with certain benefits, including whatever passive bonuses you need to be effective in that role, and a signature ability that used to be buried deeper in the talent trees. These abilities and bonuses are only available by specializing in a specific tree. Each tree awards its own unique active ability and passives when chosen. The passive bonuses range from flat percentage increases, like a 20% increase to Fire damage for Fire mages or spell range increases for casters, to more interesting passives such as the passive rage regeneration of the former Anger Management talent for Arms warriors, Dual-Wield Specialization for Fury warriors and Combat rogues, or the ability to dual-wield itself for Enhancement shaman.

The initial talent tree selection unlocks active abilities that are core to the chosen role. Our goal is to choose abilities that let the specializations come into their own much earlier than was possible when a specialization-defining talent had to be buried deep enough that other talent trees couldn’t access them. For example, having Lava Lash and Dual-Wield right away lets an Enhancement shaman feel like an Enhancement shaman. Other role-defining examples of abilities players can now get for free at level 10 include Mortal Strike, Bloodthirst, Shield Slam, Mutilate, Shadow Step, Thunderstorm, Earth Shield, Water Elemental, and Penance.

Getting Down to the Grit

Talent trees will have around 20 unique talents instead of today's (roughly) 30 talents, and aesthetically will look a bit more like the original World of Warcraft talent trees. The 31-point talents will generally be the same as the 51-point talents we already had planned for Cataclysm. A lot of the boring or extremely specialized talents have been removed, but we don't want to remove anything that’s going to affect spell/ability rotations. We want to keep overall damage, healing, and survivability roughly the same while providing a lot of the passive bonuses for free based on your specialization choice.

While leveling, you will get 1 talent point about every 2 levels (41 points total at level 85). Our goal is to alternate between gaining a new class spell or ability and gaining a talent point with each level. As another significant change, you will not be able to put points into a different talent tree until you have dedicated 31 talent points to your primary specialization. While leveling, this will be possible at 70. Picking a talent specialization should feel important. To that end, we want to make sure new players understand the significance of reaching the bottom of their specialization tree before gaining the option of spending points in the other trees. We intend to make sure dual-specialization and re-talenting function exactly as they do today so players do not feel locked into their specialization choice.

A True Mastery

The original passive Mastery bonuses players were to receive according to how they spent points in each tree are being replaced by the automatic passive bonuses earned when a tree specialization is chosen. These passives are flat percentages and we no longer intend for them to scale with the number of talent points spent. The Mastery bonus that was unique to each tree will now be derived from the Mastery stat, found on high-level items, and Mastery will be a passive skill learned from class trainers around level 75. In most cases, the Mastery stats will be the same as the tree-unique bonuses we announced earlier this year. These stats can be improved by stacking Mastery Rating found on high-level items.

To Recap

When players reach level 10, they are presented with basic information on the three specializations within their class and are asked to choose one. Then they spend their talent point. The other trees darken and are unavailable until 31 points are spent in the chosen tree. The character is awarded an active ability, and one or more passive bonuses unique to the tree they've chosen. As they gain levels, they'll alternate between receiving a talent point and gaining new skills. They'll have a 31-point tree to work down, with each talent being more integral and exciting than they have been in the past. Once they spend their 31'st point in the final talent (at level 70), the other trees open up and become available to allocate points into from then on. As characters move into the level 78+ areas in Cataclysm, they'll begin seeing items with a new stat, Mastery. Once they learn the Mastery skill from their class trainer they'll receive bonuses from the stat based on the tree they've specialized in.

We understand that these are significant changes and we still have details to solidify. We feel, however, that these changes better fulfill our original class design goals for Cataclysm, and we're confident that they will make for a better gameplay experience. Your constructive feedback is welcomed and appreciated.

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Kommentar von Octavix Epic changes are epic.

Can't wait. We are really getting back to Vanilla, aren't we?

I'm so excited! Kommentar von Atathor If I only get 41 talent points, then how does one accomplish getting the current 51-point talents?

What the heck? Maybe I need to re-read this...

Okay. So. Get it now.

This is dumb. I really don't like being forced to do a one-tree build for max efficiency.

(Insert uber-mega-sadface here.) Kommentar von Vchaybe Interesting changes... Can't wait to see this go on Beta and see how it plays out. Kommentar von Pwntiff Woah...

This is going to get interesting, to say the least.

Easier to balance maybe? Kommentar von Linious Can't say I like the change, but can't say I hate it. Feels a bit unnessisary. Don't really like the idea of only getting a talent point every other level, but I'll see what I really feel when I get my hands on it. Though I guess this means the few cata talent builds that have been released so far (druid, rogue, shammy, priset) are completly useless to look at, they'll have to do a major rebuild of it all, and somehow I feel this is going to be yet another change that will be scrapped in the near future. Kommentar von Strokr Seemed confusing at first, but we talked about it in the #wowhead IRC channel and it makes more sense now! Kommentar von Pwntiff Yeah, I understand the way the system is going to work, I'm just wondering how the system is going to feel. Kommentar von ShiroMage
Easier to balance maybe?balancedKommentar von xaratherus I think these changes could work out well. I definitely love the idea of feeling as though your talent tree is role-defining from level 1. Having dual wield as an Enhancement Shaman at level 10 will be great. Kommentar von Timanous I think I will reserve comment until this new format is released, but this seems awfully close to the Spec system in SWG.

And that is not a good comparison... Kommentar von JetZeppelin Looks interesting. I'm not going to knock it or really praise it until I've tried it for myself or seen some details from beta on next build. Kommentar von zeljkosh Great changes, now i have no doubt about buying cata ! Kommentar von Anmity Why is this not on the Cataclysm board? Kommentar von Wildhorn This is the kind of change I like. Something is not working, but always been like that, doesnt matter, scrap it and redo it. That's the spirit. Kommentar von Netherscourge WoW: Cataclysm should be renamed WoW: 1.5

Because it seems almost like a whole new game is being developed. Kommentar von sutasafaia This only makes me want Cataclysm even more. Kommentar von KittyKat77 wow.

Well I sure hope they re-vamp the talent abilities then, because for example a leveling priest gets significant benefits from placing some points in shadow, and some in holy if they want to try out the versatile "Energizer Smite Spec" for leveling.

It does kind of make sense to have players pick one spec though. I remember my first toon I didn't know how the spec feature worked. At level 40-50 I had points in each tree, because I would just read through when I got a talent point and pick something that sounded cool. oops. Live and learn. Kommentar von Octavix WoW: Cataclysm should be renamed WoW: 1.5

Because it seems almost like a whole new game is being developed.Kommentar von Netherscourge Real ID doesn't bother me - because I have nobody on my friend's list and I don't even use it anyway.

Nor do I post on the official forums.

Now, if they show our real names on the WoW Armory for the whole world to look up, I'll have a problem. Kommentar von seebs This sounds really awesome. Turns out not to matter to me anymore, but it sounds really cool.

The storm over real id fades only when the people affected have finished cleaning up shop and walking away. All of the people I know IRL who play WoW have cancelled. All.

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