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News Roundup: Darkmoon Faire Guide, Congratulations Lore, Ghostcrawler Tweets

geposted 2013.05.06 um 11:36 von perculia

Darkmoon FaireDer Thron des DonnersDunkelmond-ZylinderDunkelmond-AnglermützeDunkelmond-Spielpreis

Dunkelmond-Zylinder grants a 10% experience and reputation gain for one hour. It does not stack with the carousel buff Jippie!, but does stack with Allseits beliebt, Diplomatie, guild banners, and heirlooms.

Dunkelmond-Anglermütze grants +5 fishing, and when the Faire is open, you can summon a pool of shipwrecked debris.

Darkmoon Faire GuideDarkmoon Island, Let the Adventure Begin!!!tmpfateDarkmoon Faire Made EasykissasharkCongratulations LoreLoreTankSpotWarlock Green Fire Previewfull video announcement over at TwitchGhostcrawler TweetsTapferkeitspunkteClick the cut to read all of Ghostcrawler's recent tweets, covering class abilities, dungeons and more!

Ghostcrawler

Patch 5.3 Not This Week

Can we get a heads up as to VP incoming patch, will it be reset or can I have it stored ready?
We will give you notification before 5.3 ships.

Content in MoP

We like to encourage lots of different paths towards a goal rather than e.g. raid or die.
Optimal tends to become the only . We try to make the most optimal path the most diverse one (but again not the only one).
MoP is fun, in fact lots of fun. Why MoP >>> Cata? Because I feel like I'm a part of the world
That was a big goal. Cataclysm's "continent" was fractured and the experience for many was Org / SW and queues.
What if raiding was an option, daily questing was an option and dungeons were an option?
Then my expectation is players would choose the most efficient path (not the most fun) and tunnel on that one.
I think immersion and fun just have different connotations. Tetris may be fun but you're less likely to get "lost" in that world.
We like to encourage lots of different paths towards a goal rather than e.g. raid or die.
What we don't like is that the current system is fairly opaque. Nothing tells you "Go here for a good belt upgrade."
Also, the system gets more convoluted when tiers advance. Should I do Mogu'shangewölbe LFR or Der Thron des Donners LFR? Is the DMF trinket still good?

New Dungeons

We know some like dungeons. But players burn out on a couple of new dungeons in a week or two. Raids keep them engaged for months.
We'd like to figure out some way to do both, but that means a dungeon that doesn't get stale after 20+ runs.
A raid boss might also get stale after 20 kills, but that's 20 weeks with weekly locks. Dungeons encourage faster burn out.
Again I am talking about trends overall. I understand players are individuals with their own desires.
And even if we could double our art team tomorrow, I'd then ask do you want 1 raid + Silvermoon or 2 raids?
Prioritization is just a part of this or any business. It's not a questions of being cheap. It's a question of bang for the buck.
get it can remove the fantasy of the world to portray things in terms of artist hours, but those are very real considerations.

Classes and Abilities

Talking a lot about class cooldowns. We could lower CDs or lower magnitude and buff sustained.
This could have both PvE and PvP benefits. The CD effects would be harder to notice though. Thoughts?
Imagine Kampfschrei as a 10% crit buff or a nerfed GoaK on a 2-3 min timer along with sustained DPS buff.

If we could do it all over again, those specs would be really different. Maybe it's not too late.

We think so. We were just too generous with . We were nervous Geschwindigkeitsschub would be more popular.

We like Aff rotation in PvE, but we're worried that and Soulburn: Seelentausch hold them back in PvP. Would rather just have strong dots.

We don't put much faith in class comparisons from sims. Different people with different skills work on the various components.
So even if e.g. the hunter simming is strong, it may not mesh with the shaman simming.
Sims are better for helping you determine gems, rotations, reforge etc. for your character.

Brian may answer differently, but I would say mages are hard to counter for average players but easy for great players.
So historically a nerf to say or poly risks making them dead at the high end.
Yep. But in the Abbitte case, we've heard from a lot of players who like it.
Now maybe there are 1000s of players who hate it that we don't know about. Much of this job is making judgment calls.

will fail to rez released players who are not in the caster's 5-player party. Fixed in 5.3. In the meantime, just cast a few.

5.3 hunter: Considering reverting the DR change on but might nerf hunter pet CC cooldowns instead.

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Kommentar von borek921 Congratz, Lore! Kommentar von lankybrit On Dungeons. And GC doesn't think people will get burnt out on Scenarios? Even quicker, probably. But I guess they don't care as much because they take less resources to create in the first place.

Cheers. Kommentar von draenen "Ghostcrawler was pretty busy tweeting this weekend--of particular importance was that advance notice will be given before Patch 5.3 goes live, so players know what to do with their Valor Points."

is that what he said, though?

"Can we get a heads up as to VP incoming patch, will it be reset or can I have it stored ready?
We will give you notification before 5.3 ships."

It looks like there's a split infinitive there - it can mean as you interpreted it, but it can also mean that they'll notify us about what the deal is with valor before 5.3 ships. Kommentar von perculia Ah, well in either case, they're talking about some future notification we haven't gotten yet :) They did have a post on Valor Points and upgrades, but it was back in March. Kommentar von foolybear Congratulations to Lore, but here's to hoping he doesn't become just another "Yes" man. I enjoyed his unbiased opinions, and hope they remain unbiased. Kommentar von rinkworks On Dungeons. And GC doesn't think people will get burnt out on Scenarios? Even quicker, probably. But I guess they don't care as much because they take less resources to create in the first place.Kommentar von BrightBrown What we know is VP was always converted until the last patch, where they reversed that "SoP." So NO assumptions can be made... although my guess is pretty much everyone was happy to retain their VP. As it stands, I'd REALLY want to keep my VP through the patch.

Realistically, I think we need something like 3 weeks notice so we have enough time to actually plan... didn't we have more than that prior to 5.2 landing? It DOES seem to give a hint that 5.3 is nowhere near imminent. It kinda seems reasonable to "assume" it's at least a month away at this point.

Of course, complicating speculation is that we know about item upgrades and their reduced costs, so one could IMAGINE that may make them go for conversion so folks can't go on an item upgrade tear as soon as 5.3 drops. Kommentar von Bundletif After running a good number of alts through MoP dungeons and scenarios, I now run the scenarios in a much higher percentage. Content is old and repetative in both, but its a much shorter inconvenience in scenarios. I wouldn't run either any longer except the wait times to get into LFR can be long. I'm not clamoring for new dungeon content, I'll wait until they figure out how to easily/efficiently scale the dungeon(and loot) to the group's ilevel:) Kommentar von perculia There was an additional complication this past week where the PTR didn't work on Macs, so I imagine that has affected the launch schedule a little. Kommentar von Xenavire I have to say, I have found dungeons to have much nicer replay value, and when you run them with friends as I tend to, you are given a much faster queue and a better loot ratio than any scenario ever. It takes us slightly longer to complete a dungeon, but we are pretty much gauranteed payout (either loot or enchanting mats, plus gold), where scenarios are per person, and only supprt 3 person groups, which is a HUGE inconvenience.

I got sick of every scenario after a second run, except for the arena one, and unga ingoo which I was sick of half way through (it is truly awful.)
I prefer dungeons so much more, even though they are longer and more difficult. Payout per boss more than makes up for the length, and they aren't even that long - the longest is shadow pan, from memory, and it doesn't take that long. If they are that worried about resources, find inventive ways to make the dungeons a little shorter.

I mean, let's face it, the only reason unga ingoo didn't take a significant amount of developer resources was because it already existed in the overworld - all they did was copy and paste the map, and add some mobs and objectives. But they did the same for the temple of the jade serpent dungeon, so it's just a crock - they are trying so hard to push their new idea, because they want to fix people complaining about queue times.

I just think they are copping out, they have experience making dungeons, and I think that experience is worth more than they are giving credit for - they had to create new tech to make scenarios, and I bet that took up a whole bunch of time.

I don't want to sound ungrateful, because I do think that when they figure out the right direction to go, scenarios will be great, but this bull about dungeons being so much harder to create just doesn't cut it. They could easily copy and paste sections of ToT and slap it into the caverns of time, in a dungeon setting, and it would fit lore so much better than some junk about pirates.

I just hope they realise that sooner, rather than later, people would get very upset if dungeons were only coming every expansion. Kommentar von darthhraider I could see how it would be a pain for blizzard to put all the effort into making a new dungeon just for everyone to get burnt out on it. To be fair, though we see it as a game, it's understanding that you must see it as a product for your company, and putting forth the creative design to make a whole new dungeon means more company spending. I get it, you're not cheap, and you must be realistic, but you could meet in the middle with us. Something like, I think it would be cool to see a new dungeon difficulty, like an elite version that you would have to be attuned for, something similar to Burning Crusade Heroics. Have it drop 476-483 ilvl gear off of last boss or a bonus roll token to use in the current tier of raids. Before you go saying, "well we did come up with challenge modes." There's a difference between trying to zerg through a dungeon as fast as you can versus trying to enjoy the difficulty of a dungeon and overcoming it bit by bit. I was one of those players that enjoyed BRD taking 6 hours, and having to get a key for every difficult raid or dungeon I wanted to do, it made the game longer. Maybe I am the only player that feels this way, mainly because I could care less of the achievements and transmog gear and mainly focus on the actual gear that drops after completing each boss. Kommentar von leaponover "We know some like dungeons. But players burn out on a couple of new dungeons in a week or two. Raids keep them engaged for months.
We'd like to figure out some way to do both, but that means a dungeon that doesn't get stale after 20+ runs.
A raid boss might also get stale after 20 kills, but that's 20 weeks with weekly locks. Dungeons encourage faster burn out.
Again I am talking about trends overall. I understand players are individuals with their own desires."

I usually like GC but this shows a huge disconnect. Last night I get on my alt and see I have 1k vps to earn before the reset. What am I looking at? Dungeons, raids, scenarios (forget dailies not enough vps earned while doing them except Champions of The Thunder King). So to rack up 1k vps I have to do a combination of the 3 burnout is inevitable since my queue time on raid when I play is 1hour + every time (i play at night). So he wants to avoid dungeon or scenario burnout but make them worth so little that you have to run a ton of them to get vp capped. Makes no sense.... Kommentar von Interest Sweet. Gratz to Lore. The employment is well deserved. =D Kommentar von Rainemard *Wonders what Lore's Avatar will be*

I have to say, I have found dungeons to have much nicer replay value, and when you run them with friends as I tend to, you are given a much faster queue and a better loot ratio than any scenario ever. It takes us slightly longer to complete a dungeon, but we are pretty much gauranteed payout (either loot or enchanting mats, plus gold), where scenarios are per person, and only supprt 3 person groups, which is a HUGE inconvenience.

I got sick of every scenario after a second run, except for the arena one, and unga ingoo which I was sick of half way through (it is truly awful.)
I prefer dungeons so much more, even though they are longer and more difficult. Payout per boss more than makes up for the length, and they aren't even that long - the longest is shadow pan, from memory, and it doesn't take that long. If they are that worried about resources, find inventive ways to make the dungeons a little shorter.Kommentar von Excelion I think the patch will be on the 21st. We'll get a warning sometime this week, and I don't see it being on the 28th because that's right after Memorial Day, and Blizzard treats its employees real well with time off during major holidays. Kommentar von Sas148 WTG Lore! :) Kommentar von Tush We think so. We were just too generous with Cloak and Dagger. We were nervous Burst of Speed would be more popular.Kommentar von Mantrhax What game Gc is taking about ? O_o

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