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Kommentar von AmenitratheDruid

Hier geht es zum deutschen Guide: https://youtu.be/cOn7PLwEtX0 für den NPC Beschwörer Margoss. Infos und mehr!

Kommentar von Keraminchen

Da mir der Guide auf Youtube.de nicht wirklich weiter geholfen hat, habe ich mich an die Arbeit gemacht und hier ist mein Ergebnis.

In den Kanälen von Dalaran bei ca 67,24 spawnen immer wieder kleine grüne Schwärme. Aus diesen kann man "Blinde Augen" und auch ein Seelengebundes Item angeln, dass sich "Emblem von Margoss" nennt. Dieses Item ist einzigartig. Wenn Ihr es benutzt, teleportiert es Euch auf eine der kleinen Inseln bei Neu-Dalaran. Dort findet Ihr Margoss. Er verkauft folgende Items:

Angelköder - 1 versunkenes Mana - ohne Ruf erwerbbar
Quietscheentenschwimmer - 25 versunkenes Mana - Ruf Freund
Quietscheentenschwimmer - 25 versunkenes Mana - Ruf Freund
Das Pet (Stachelrochenjunges) - 50 versunkenes Mana - Ruf guter Freund
Das Mount (Gründling der salzigen Tiefen) - 100 versunkenes Mana - Ruf bester Freund

Ruf gibt es wie folgt:

Nur für Menschen
1 versunkenes Mana = 55
10 versunkenes Mana = 550
100 versunkenes Mana = 5500

Für alle Anderen Klassen ohne Ruf Boni
1 versunkenes Mana = 50
10 versunkenes Mana = 500
100 versunkenes Mana = 5000

Rufstufen bei Beschwörer Margoss sind wie folgt (Jede Rufstufe geht von 0 - 8400):

- Fremder
- Kumpan
- Kumpel
- Freund
- Guter Freund
- Bester Freund

Insgesamt wird:
50.400 Ruf bis max. Bester Freund benötigt.

Menschen brauchen für eine Rufstufe:
ca. 153 / 154 versunkenes Mana
Insgesamt für alle Rustufen: ca 918 - 924 versunkenes Mana

Alle Anderen benötigen
Pro Rufstufe 168 versunkenes Mana
Insgesamt für alle Rustufen: 1008 versunkenes Mana

Alle 50 - 100 Fische kann ein "Mal von Aquaos" droppen (hin und wieder auch öfter)
Das Item ist einzigartig und Seelengebunden. Was macht man mit diesem Item? Ganz einfach, es zurück in den Teich werfen. Dann wird ein großes Wasserelementar namens "Aquaos der Entfesselte" beschworen. Der Gegner hinterlässt zwar keinen Loot, dafür aber, wird für einen Zeitraum von ca 2 - 3 Minuten ein Aufsteigender Manaregen aktiviert. In dieser Zeit könnt Ihr, besser "versunkenes Mana angeln. Pro ausgeworfener Angel erhaltet Ihr 1-2 versunkenes Mana.

Bei mir hat wie folgt das aufsteigene Mana von der Zeit angehalten:
2 Min 12 Sek
2 Min 26 Sek
2 Min 27 Sek.
2 Min 36 Sek
2 Min 54 Sek
2 Min 53 Sek

Es kann also mal länger und mal kürzer anhalten.

In ca. 10 Stunden habe ich den Ruf von 0 auf bester Freund gebracht + 3 Pets und 1 Mount

Geangelt habe ich:
739 Silbermarkrele
267 großer Brunnengoldfisch
27 Hochberglachs
22 Runenschuppenkoi
20 Schwarzer Barrakuda
18 Verfluchter Königinnenfisch
18 Sturmrochen
16 Mooskiemenbarsch

Gekauft habe ich mir etwa 20 Arkane Köder, bin mir aber nicht sicher, ob diese einen Einfluss auf die Droprate des versunkenen Manas hatten.

Alle, die den Ruf und sich damit das Mount und das Pet noch erarbeiten wollen, wünsche ich viel Erfolg. Bringt Zeit mit ;)

Kommentar von Ottifantus

Danke für den sehr guten Beitrag und die Mühe die du dir gemach hast.

Eventuell kann man die schwebende Insel auf der Rückseite der "Hordenbank" im Norden von Dalaran ja auch per Gleiter erreichen - habe ich noch nicht austesten können :-)

Einzige Ergänzung: der Wasserelementar kann von jedem gerufen und allen die da stehen angehauen werden, so dass der häufiger genutzt werden kann als erahnt (zumindest auf Servern mit entsprechender Population).

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Kommentar von jjanchan

This information is current as of September 8/16 on Live servers.

TIP #1: There are groups in the group-finder that fish together on Margoss' Retreat; this greatly increases the number of Mal von Aquaos that are fished up, and with enough people you can chain them back-to-back, increasing your rate of Versunkenes Mana acquisition dramatically!

TIP #2: Take advantage of reputation buffs, like Jippie!/Dunkelmond-Zylinder while the Darkmoon Faire is active, or similar buffs listed in the guide below during holidays to speed this grind up!

Beschwörer Margoss

Beschwörer Margoss is a new Fishing-related NPC located on a floating island (Margoss' Retreat) around Dalaran. This island has a pool of water on it from which Versunkenes Mana can be fished up.

As a "Friend" NPC, there is an associated faction and reputation associated with Margoss - Beschwörer Margoss (similar to Nat Pagle or the Tillers NPCs).

Getting to Margoss' Retreat

The island on which Beschwörer Margoss can be found is just North of Dalaran. Note that this small island isn't shown on the map of Dalaran - it is outside of the bounds of the in-game map (therefore coordinates are not helpful!)

There are a number of ways to get to the island:

Flying
Once flying is unlocked in Legion, this will be an easy way to get to the island.
Emblem von Margoss
Emblem von Margoss is a consumable item that teleports you to Margoss' Retreat. It can be fished up in the Dalaran Underbelly from the Swirling Whorl pools around the Black Market Auction house - in the Underbelly.
These items are consumed when used - so to use this method again you have to fish up another.
Manually Reaching the Island
It is possible to get to the island using unconventional means.
First, go through the gap in the Dalaran wall at , between the Violet Citadel and the Magus Commerce Exchange (you can see it if you follow the grass to the right of the Violet Citadel stairs). You'll see the pet trainer on the ledge below, and in the distance you will see Margoss' Retreat, recognizable by the pool of water in the center. From this ledge you can reach the island through the following means:
- As a Dämonenjäger, you can use Gleiten.
- As an Engineer, you can use a cloak with Goblingleiter attached.
- Any race/class can use Goblingleiterbausatz (crafted by Engineers).
- Any race/class can use Smaragdwinde (Toy obtained from the achievement Küken der Kralle in Der Hochberg).

You can get back to Dalaran by speaking to Beschwörer Margoss - he will teleport you back on request.

Obtaining Versunkenes Mana

Versunkenes Mana has a two-fold purpose:

Can be turned in to Beschwörer Margoss to obtain reputation with him.

Can be used as a currency for a number of items he sells.

Note that any Versunkenes Mana spent on items from Beschwörer Margoss will not grant any reputation. Conversely, any Versunkenes Mana turned in for reputation is consumed and cannot be used to buy merchandise.

Versunkenes Mana can ONLY be fished up from the pool on Margoss' Retreat.

Notes

A Fishing skill of 1 is sufficient to catch Versunkenes Mana.
Fishing skill does not appear to appreciably affect Versunkenes Mana catch rate (see below).
You can catch up to 2 Versunkenes Mana per cast.
Other than Versunkenes Mana, only trash fish are caught on this island (Silbermakrele and Großer Brunnengoldfisch).
Versunkenes Mana can be turned in 1 at a time for 50 reputation or 10 at a time for 500 reputation.
Versunkenes Mana is Unique (100) - as such you want to turn-in or spend it when you reach that mark.
Level 110 is NOT required to fish up Versunkenes Mana. Testing with level 100+ characters has been successful; it is unknown whether even lower level characters can do so.

Mal von Aquaos

Mal von Aquaos is an item you can rarely fish up on Margoss' Retreat (roughly 1 in every 100 casts). Using it will summon Aquaos der Entfesselte, an Elemental that will attack you, that you must kill.

Aquaos der Entfesselte scales in health and level (like all Legion mobs). It is not difficult to kill him.
Aquaos drops no loot, but killing him infuses the pool on the island with mana, increasing the catch rate of Versunkenes Mana to 100% while it is active for a short time! This state is indicated by blue mana motes rising from the surface of the water.
This "mana infusion" state lasts 2-3 minutes from testing.
Mal von Aquaos is Unique - as such, it is advisable to use it as soon as you catch one, to avoid not being able to loot any more you may catch. Of course, if the buff is still up on the pool from a previous kill, wait until it has expired before using another - prematurely using one DOES NOT extend the buff!
While the buff is up, not only is Versunkenes Mana catch rate 100%, but you will somtimes catch various Legion (non-trash) fish, such as Sturmrochen and Hochberglachs.

Fishing Tests

LOW FISHING SKILL: Fished from a skill of 19 to 119 (Total 100 casts)

Total yield: 28 Versunkenes Mana

6 casts yielded 1 Versunkenes Mana
11 casts yielded 2 Versunkenes Mana
Overall 17 casts yielded some Versunkenes Mana (17%)

HIGH FISHING SKILL: Fished at a skill of 904, with some Fishing gear and lure (Total 100 casts)

Total yield: 27 Versunkenes Mana

9 casts yielded 1 Versunkenes Mana
9 casts yielded 2 Versunkenes Mana
1 cast yielded a Mal von Aquaos
Overall 18 casts yielded some Versunkenes Mana (18%)

VERY HIGH FISHING SKILL: Fished from a skill of 1115 to 1152, with best possible Fishing gear and lure (Total 200 casts)

Total yield: 51 Versunkenes Mana

15 casts yielded 1 Versunkenes Mana
18 casts yielded 2 Versunkenes Mana
3 casts yielded a Mal von Aquaos
Overall 39 casts yielded some Versunkenes Mana (19.5%)

Overall this is a fairly low sample size; however, based on the information, it appears that Fishing skill has little to no effect on Versunkenes Mana catch rate. Further testing is needed to see if maxed fishing will yield different results.

Reputation with Beschwörer Margoss

Reputation with Beschwörer Margoss will allow you to purchase the various items he has for sale - including a pet and a mount!

There is a one-time quest (Versunkenes Mana) that you can complete by fishing up and turning in 1 Versunkenes Mana for 250 reputation. Thereafter, the only way to obtain further reputation is to turn in Versunkenes Mana for 50 reputation per mana.

There are 5 levels of reputation before Best Friend, which is the maximum reputation. Each of these levels has 8400 reputation.

To improve the rate of reputation gain, keep in mind the following buffs (note that some of the following buffs stack):

Jippie! or Dunkelmond-Zylinder, available during the Darkmoon Faire

Jippie! is available by riding the Darkmoon Carousel
Dunkelmond-Zylinder is granted by the Dunkelmond-Zylinder item, which can be purchased for 10 Gewinnlos des Dunkelmond-Jahrmarktss. It can only be used while the Darkmoon Faire is active.
Jippie! and Dunkelmond-Zylinder do not stack with each other.

Finsteres Gesicht/Erleichtert, available during the Hallow's End Holiday Event
Teilen macht Freude, available during the Pilgrim's Bounty Holiday Event
Diplomatie, one of the human racial abilities
Das Wissen des Rates, available to Frost Mages with Schwarzfrost from various NPCs in Dalaran

Below is a summary of the levels of reputation with Beschwörer Margoss:

Reputation Level	Reputation Amount	Versunkenes Mana Required to Reach Next Level	Total Versunkenes Mana Required	Total Versunkenes Mana Required (with 10% buff)*
Stranger	0-8400	163**	163	148
Pal	8401-16800	168	331	301
Buddy	16801-25200	168	499	454
Friend	25201-33600	168	667	606
Good Friend	33601-41999	168	835	759
Best Friend	42000	-	835	759

*Each level of reputation requires just over 152 Versunkenes Mana with a single 10% buff. Stacking buffs will further the effectiveness.
**This level requires fewer mana turn-ins due to the one-time quest.

Spending Versunkenes Mana

Beschwörer Margoss sells a number of items for Versunkenes Mana, as below:

Item	Reputation Required	Versunkenes Mana Cost	Description
Arkaner Köder	-	1	Consumed on use. Increases your chance to catch bait in the Broken Isles by 100% for 10 min. These baits are used to fish up Rare fish for the achievement Dicke Fische.
Murlocschwimmer X 5	Friend	25	Consumed on use. Replace your fishing bobber with a cute murloc head for 30 min.
Quietscheentenschwimmer X 5	Friend	25	Consumed on use. Replace your fishing bobber with a squeaky duck for 30 min.
Kiste mit Schwimmern: Quietscheentchen	Friend	100	Toy. Replace your fishing bobber with a squeaky duck for 1 hour. (15 Min Cooldown)
Kiste mit Schwimmern: Murlockopf	Friend	100	Toy. Replace your fishing bobber with a cute murloc head for 1 hour. (15 Min Cooldown)
Stachelrochenjunges	Good Friend	50	Battle Pet. Aquatic. Adds the Battle Pet Stachelrochenjunges to your collection.
Gründling der salzigen Tiefen	Best Friend	100	Mount. Can be used only in water.
Naschbär	Best Friend	50	Battle Pet. Critter. Adds the Battle Pet Naschbär to your collection.

Here are some numbers for total Versunkenes Mana required for certain items (includes reputation turn-ins and currency requirement):

Kiste mit Schwimmern: Murlockopf and Kiste mit Schwimmern: Quietscheentchen - 599 Versunkenes Mana required for one, 699 Versunkenes Mana required for both.
Stachelrochenjunges - 717 Versunkenes Mana required
Naschbär - 885 Versunkenes Mana required
Stachelrochenjunges + Naschbär - 935 Versunkenes Mana required
Gründling der salzigen Tiefen - 935 Versunkenes Mana required
ALL Pets and Mount - 1035 Versunkenes Mana required
ALL Toys, Pets and Mount - 1235 Versunkenes Mana required

Kommentar von Neuport

Took 2372 casts to become best friends with Conjurer Margoss (with 11 extra mana). Started at fishing level 703 with +220 fishing most of the time +150 hat lure. Completed on 8/31/2016.

1081 - Silver Mackerel
855 - Drowned Mana
342 - Big Fountain Goldfish
30 - Mark of Aquaos
64 - "World" fish caught after using Mark of Aquaos

Kommentar von Frostaphim

If you want to get to this guy DONT use Himmelshorndrachen aus Rocfedern as soon as you get close you get kicked off because you enter a bit of "The Great Sea" and this kite is only for the broken isles so that means the kite doesn't work.. Just putting it out here i got pretty frustrated have to swim now and take a FP back to dalaran because i just used my hearthstone.

Anyways goodluck!

Kommentar von Mydge

Light Feather will not work.

Kommentar von Kurasu

People have compared this character to grinding with Nat Paglle. However, the grind is considerably more difficult than Nat.

For one thing, getting to the island is difficult, and that specific island is the only place that you are able to catch 'Drowned Mana'. So in order to get mana from him, you need to be in a specific location.

Secondly, that 'Drowned Mana' needs to be turned into him, rather like the lunkers. However, *unlike* the lunker turn-ins, you do not get an item for it. You simply get reputation.

*AFTER* you have the amount of reputation you need, you need to fish up *more* drowned mana in order to get his goods, rather than having the 'mana' that you spent on him in order to get to Best Friend.

In other words, you need approximately 1000 drowned mana to become best friends, and *then* you need another 150 to get both the pet and the mount.

.... happy fishing.

Kommentar von TrenoNeoKnight

Coincidentally this gentleman shares the exact same look with the Angespülter Magier from Northrend's Dalaran, despite the latter being identified as Barnabas Pfeilmacher from Mists of Pandaria.

Kommentar von lunamoonraker

Be aware that he will happily continue to offer the option and accept Versunkenes Mana even when you have hit Best Friend maximum reputation.

Kommentar von vindurza

fun fact he seems to be the washed up mage found in the sewer during wrath who gives you the recipe for kunga'loosh off his arm, or at least related to him in some way do to the same over all look and the fact fishing usually involves heavy drinking if we use nat as an example. he also seems to be a little crazy since he constantly refers to his manaling as kadghar and the manaling begs you to save it

Kommentar von tigernest

Your progress towards reputation with this guy can be found under Steamwheedle Cartel.

Kommentar von Elder82

Mages, and people who have a mage available next to them, don't need any special tool to get to the retreat: just cast slow fall, mount up and run towards the island to land on it easily. :)

Kommentar von SoCalWoWGal

In Patch 7.1.5, Naschbär will be sold by Beschwörer Margoss at "Best Friend" reputation for 50 Versunkenes Mana.

Note: At the time of posting this comment the Wowhead database had not yet updated the vendor information.

Kommentar von JDanger

Fishing skill level one and I don't get anything more than my fish got away.

Kommentar von pat33

BEST ADVICE EVER:

DO A PREMADE: Drowned mana farm!

When in 40 man raid you get Mark of Aquaos non stop resulting in endless rain of DROWNED MANA!

Kommentar von Vetchinkin

Aquaos was supposed to be easy to kill, it took me a while...oh wait...fishing pole equipped.

Kommentar von Kiingy

I wrote a small WeakAura for the Broken Shore fishing factions.

Whenever you catch one of the rep/currency items it'll display a small popup for 4 seconds showing your current count (plus any in bank). It's set to only show once you have 80+ and a sound alert will play once you have 96+.
It'll also alert you with a sound and display a persistent clickable button when you catch one of the items that spawns the mini-boss. This will only show while you have a fishing rod equipped.

All sounds can be changed or disabled and thresholds for when to start showing can also be changed (or set it always show).
The aura itself will only load on characters that have learned the Fishing ability.

Screenshot:
http://puu.sh/wroTf/92cabd14bc.png

Since the WeakAura import string is quite long I've posted it below on pastebin.
https://pastebin.com/LxLpWDsK

All updates to the aura are also noted in the above pastebin link.

Kommentar von Boxofbeer

Beschwörer Margoss can be found on small floating island north of Dalaran.
He's Legion version of Nat Pagle, teaches you fishing and sells some stuff.
Currency is Versunkenes Mana. There's also the same quest - Versunkenes Mana.

Store list:

1	Arkaner Köder	Versunkenes Mana x 1
2	Gründling der salzigen Tiefen	Versunkenes Mana x 100	Honored
3	Quietscheentenschwimmer	Versunkenes Mana x 25	Neutral
4	Murlocschwimmer	Versunkenes Mana x 25	Neutral
5	Stachelrochenjunges	Versunkenes Mana x 50	Friendly
6	Kiste mit Schwimmern: Quietscheentchen	Versunkenes Mana x 100	Neutral
7	Kiste mit Schwimmern: Murlockopf	Versunkenes Mana x 100	Neutral
8	Naschbär	Versunkenes Mana x 50	Honored

_
Beschwörer Margoss spot - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyCU2XClAGY

Kommentar von Arcangel777

My Dear "Best Friend" Margoss

After 1591 fishing casts and hours of bonding with you, may you drown in the 1134 Versunkenes Mana I have have provided to this trade friendship.
May we not convene again in the near future!

Incincerely

Your no longer 'Best Friend'!

Kommentar von Lungtau

Nothing worse than expending the inordinate amount of time working on this reputation, where a blown cast could mean 80-100 more casts, and especially while the Mark of Aquaos buff is counting down -- than to auto-loot your hook and cast again too soon.

For me, this results in "Internal Bag Error": lost loot, plus no mail waiting for me in Dalaran saying "Recovered Items".

Auto-looting in general should be transactional. Once initiated, it should complete before anything else can be initiated. If your bags fill, it should loot what it may before anything other action can begin.

If you say, "But if I loot and a boss spawns right beside me and I need to stop looting", I will say "Bad place to loot."

Hey, if Blizz detects an error - and says out loud it is an "error" - why not provide some sort of some sort of payback? If it's impossible to restore the lost loot, do something else. Give the player a 1 minute "lucky" buff.

I have lost at least seven Drowned Manas today alone from being too fast on my action bar. I could have lost a Mark of Aquaos during any of these bag errors...

Imagine: a melee-based game where you are penalized for quick reaction times.

Kommentar von Shirouma

Sit/stand close to him while you're fishing and keep the shop window open. If you get a Mark of Auaos when you already have one in your inventory already, just sell the one in your inv to him then go to the buyback tab and get it back when you're ready to use it. That way you don't have to unnecessarily delete them just because you can only have 1 at a time. (Dumb mechanic imo but hey at least there's a simple workaround atm.)

Kommentar von deepspace8

You come here to try and find out where the guy is, and that's the one thing that no one says. Despite the header, he is NOT in the Dalaran sewers. He's on a floating island just north of Dalaran, part of the city (the Broken Isles Dalaran, not WotLK).

Kommentar von horehound

Legion Timewalking buff does not seem to increase the rep gain. Even though it's a "repeatable quest" to turn in mana, seems like it should count.
Also I had an Aquaos in my bag and when I fished a second one, it did not get sent to my mail like it *should've* because all the time when i loot a second unique item it gets sent to my mailbox, but not Aquaos.

Kommentar von marig0ld

to anyone trying this rep post legion: during legion timewalking, you can buy broken isle fish delivery for 25 tw badges. they usually contain 1-3 drowned mana per and can help finish this rep/buy lures and save you some time if you have nothing else you care to spend badges on. its not much, though

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