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Kommentar von 239891

As of Cata release, this fight is definitely tuned to be very difficult for the gear level of fresh 85s in blues. I would not recommend attempting this fight without everyone in the group being in full 346 blues or better.

Additionally, the fight has no enrage, so in ten man it is advisable to use a third healer. There is a ton of AoE damage throughout the fight, so as long as you can kill all the adds when they spawn and synch your dps cooldowns with his "spiked" phase, you are better off with a third healer for increased survivability and healer mana pool.

Kommentar von shinzen

We downed Magmaw 10 man last night.
This fight was super heal intensive. We used 2 raid healers Shaman/Druid and 1 dedicated tank heals Holy Paladin.

The key to this fight was the ranged camp had to stick together and kill the adds every Flame Spire. We had 2 melee dps handling the pinsers and chaining him to the spike down below.

-Tephy@Blackrock Alliance

Kommentar von cowguin

For anyone wondering about 10/25 differences, you only need 2 jumpers on 10 man, 3 on 25.

Kommentar von 739379

Took down Mawgar last night with a setup of: 1 tank, 3 healers, 1 melee, 5 ranged.

I would say the parasites are definitly the key to the fight. You cant let these get out of control otherwise it can get very messy. To combat the parasites we stacked all healers and ranged dps up on 1 spot on the right side. Soon as the pillar hit the floor, they would all move over to another designated spot and stack their. The range dps turned around and aoed the parasites, hunter drops frost trap in to slow, had a boomkin for knock back, lock for shadowfury (glyphed). Killed them all easily with about 3-4 seconds left before the next pillar spawns, at which point, they move back to location 1 and repeat.

With this tactic its vital everyone moves from the pillar asap, the range dps will spend 90% of the time working the adds, for most of the damage done to the boss will happen when his head is impaled. Due to healers moving as well, the 3-4 second gap between the parasides is best to load the tank with hots, and make sure his topped up. Also the tank should time his short cds for when the parasites spawn and the healers are running.

Magmaw will pick up the tank in his mouth for the mangle ability, at which point 1-2 healers need to spam the tank. On 10 man it only requires 2 people to jump on Magmaw to chain him down. After, it takes around 10-15 seconds before the chains pull Magmaw into the impale and releases the tank. I think on the video posted on the link above the guy says you need to use the ability on the chains/hooks from the ceiling? i could be wrong, but what your aiming for is the spike on the ground. (perhaps a change since beta).

The big half room aoe is just as his head slams down when people can jump on his head. So you only need to worry about it after the tank has been picked up.

Whilst Magmaw is impaled, providing all the parasites are down, no one takes damage, which gives great oppertunity for the healer to gain some mana, we had 2 paladin healers, who would melee with seal of insight, and judge etc, gaining over 50% of their mana each impale.

Nuking the boss whilst impaled is fun and all, but people need to keep sharp, preferably the tank wants to make sure he gets into melee range before the head comes back up, before a melee gets squished. Ranged want to make sure they are stacked in their correct location, more parasites will spawn within 5 seconds to the boss freeing and need to be ready to move.

Before the first impale you will get 3, but possibly 2, rounds of parasites. After the first impale however, its usually 2 sometimes even 1.

Will also mention that something has to be in melee range at all times, if theres none, he enrages and does huge aoe damage. Whilst the tank is in the mouth, I guess he still counts as "melee range" ofc. There is also random flames being dropped down on people throughout the fight, which I assume everyone all knows about already.

I hope this information is useful for people.

Kommentar von Nethris

Without a doubt, easiest way to do this is with a Frost DK in Blood Presence with either chillblains talented or a hunter frost trap. Drop DnD on the pillar, spam howling blast and there is absolutely no way the DK can lose aggro from all the parasites. Youll get the achievement first try as long as no stupid range goes inside the parasite spawn and gets one random parasite because of roots.

Kommentar von AgentCantwell

For people assigned to chains. Did not find this information anywhere so here is the deal:

When the boss drops down you will get a "vehicle" arrow, allowing you to jump onto his back.

Once on his back you will receive an ability bound to your 1 key. Once you click it you will be given an AoE circle. Click the AoE circle on the ground on the spike. Two people on ten man.

This is not always obvious, as some guides tell you to spam the 1 key. Just click it one time and click the spike and that will do it.

Kommentar von GraveDiggerX

Strategy Guide & Video:

Below, I have written a guide on the abilities and how we defeated this boss.

Our group:

Tanks - | Paladin | Druid |
Healers - | Paladin | Shaman | Priest/Druid |
DPS - | Death Knight | Hunter | Rogue | SPriest | Mage |

General Boss Information:

This boss is a gigantic worm that is stationary in the room.
Uses lava and parasites to try and defeat the raid.
Has 2 phases: An attacking phase and a defenseless phase.
Phase two is when he is impaled on the spike in the room.

Boss Abilities:

During the fight Magmaw will be constantly casting Magma Spit which deals ~30k damage to targeted player. Targets randomly and very often.
Along with Magma Spit, Magmaw will also cast Magma Spew. This deals ~25k damage to each person in the raid and must be healed through.
Another ability he does as he is going into phase two is he we grab the tank in his mouth and attempt to Mangle him to death. This will continue until he pounds the ground with his head.
When he pounds the ground with his head players are able to jump on his head and attempt to chain him to the ground using Constricting Chains.
Alongside his other abilities he will ignite half the room on fire. When this ends it will deal ~50k damage to anyone remaining in it.
His last ability you have to look out for is his Pillar of Flame. It looks like a swirling puddle of lava on the ground. When this explodes, it knocks players in the air and spawns parasites that must be killed.

Our Strategy:

When we engaged the boss we had our tanks stand in melee range in one corner of his zone, and had the melee DPS on the opposite side. They won't have to switch throughout the fight. On the other hand, we had the ranged stack up and stay stacked as much as possible throughout the encounter.
Have the ranged stay in their current positions until the Pillar of Flame comes. When this happens move to the exact location of where you were except on the other side of the spike and as soon as you get their have ALL DPS that can AoE help kill the parasites.
After they are dead get back on the boss and continue until Phase 2.
Phase 2 happens shortly after the tank is grabbed into his mouth (Big heals/CDs when tank is grabbed) and happens by having 2 members jump on his back and chain him to the ground. You want to use the chains ASAP to bring him down. Otherwise he will break the chains and spray the raid with magma causing a wipe.
Once he is brought down he will take 100% increased damage. Burn all CDs and take as much health down each time.
When he goes back up have the OT pick him up (Due to an armor debuff on the MT from being gnawed on) and rinse and repeat.

Tips:

Bring very good healers. This is a very healing intensive fight.
Don't get hit by the lava spout... for christ's sake.
Lots of AoE!

I wish you the best of luck, and feel free to critique my post and ask any questions.

Please uprate if this helped at all!

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~Wrex | Pseudonym | Executus-US

Kommentar von zamboozle

As others have stated, this is quite the healcheck. We are a small guild, and not on the forefront of progression in most cases. But we actually downed him yesterday on 10man, and our strat was.. unique, because we had to somewhat compensate for the massive healing requirements: we took one tank, four healers and 5dd.

There are two main things to consider in this fight:

1) Healing through the massive raiddamage

2) Dealing with the parasites

Lineup:
Druid tank
Paladin Healer
2 Druid Healers
1 Holy Priest
3 Warlocks, 2 of which demonology
Retribution Paladin
Hunter (not sure on spec)

The 4 healers gave us enough leeway to deal with the massive raiddamage, as well as a dedicated tankheal. There is no hard enrage, and properly executed, the burn phase is really really powerful, so dps (on the boss) isn't as important as dps on the adds.

To deal with the adds, demonology warlocks with the felguard really shine. The felguard can charge into the pack of parasites and cast its powerful fel storm, this will give him solid aggro on every parasite while the dps AE the hell out of them. Since the timer on fel storm is 45sek, we actually had our affliction wl change specs for this fight, so we could fel storm all of them on every spawn.

Once you get the parasites controlled, and your healers get everyone though phase 1, phase 2 is simply: dps burn the boss as hard as possible, while healers dps or regenerate mana.

Kommentar von Omang

Me and my guild were able to do this on 10-man this week. We spent around 3hrs wiping on this until we finally downed him.

Group -
Paladin Tank (Me)
Fury War x2
Surv Hunter x2
Boomkin
Holy Paladin
Resto Shaman
Elemental Shaman
Disc Priest

Since DBM wasn't working we had 1 of our hunters call out things from Bigwigs so this wasn't a perfect kill. We started off by trying to 2 tank it, swapping everytime someone got mangled, but that didn't work and we ended up solo tanking it. For this fight I glyphed for WoG and all of my Holy Powers healing myself. Everytime adds would spawn I'd wait for one of the ranged to get aggro before I popped Holy Radiance, did over 1mil healing on myself. Not an extremely hard fight but it does take some getting use to.

Just pop hero when he gets pinned down and rinse and repeat. We should be doing 25 mans this week so I'll edit the post if the strat. changes at all.

Kommentar von 745975

Small note: You chain the spike directly in front of him as a chainer, not the hooks on the ceiling. For some reason we didn't figure that out for a while. :-/

Kommentar von 57281

If you are having problems doing it any of the ways above, try this out:

1 hunter in at ranged to kite parasites.

All ranged and melee (except tank) standing DIRECTLY on top of each other in melee range (Not off to the side, not nearby, directly on top of each other.), on the left side of the tank. If their side of the room gets hit by Ignition, they switch to right side of the tank, in melee range. Back and forth throughout the entire fight.

Hunter Ice Traps the parasites, ranged turns around and AOEs them down, then turn around to continue working on the boss.

This trick made downing the parasites so easy, we even got the achievement, Parasite Evening.

Good Luck!

Kommentar von Wynder

From a healer perspective, bear in mind that when the Tank is grabbed and under the influence of Mangle, the boss raises his head and can effective put him out of the range of your spells.

Make sure that, if you've been assigned to heal the tank, that you move in close so you're still able to cast upon him.

Kommentar von 48286

Ten man is very very simple positioning. Forget this other garbage with ranged moving around.

One tank to the right.
Eight people to the left.
One person at ranged.

You simply have to rely on one person moving. We did it with both a warlock and then a hunter at ranged. Either way works. (Demonology Warlock / Survival Hunter) Ranged stays on adds from melee range with the boss. Make sure chains go down at the same time on the boss. Burn the hell out of him when he's spiked. Three healers makes this fight a joke. Not difficult.

Kommentar von Hominghead

Downed him tonight with the Guild. Nazjatar, EU, .

2 Tanks (DK + Pala(Me)
3 Healers
5 DPS

Have Tanks Rotate due to 50% Armor Debuff
Rangeds and Healers musn't fail the Pillar Movement and Adds killing.

Most of us had udner LV346 Equipment, so it was quite hard in the beginning.

The 3 Keys you need in this fight are the Movement and killing Adds, getting Magmaw to release Tank ASAP and Tanks Rotating due to Armor Debuff.

We also have gotten the Achievment. 60g Rep Costs were worth it.

Kommentar von Makkuroo

We completed this last night with a composition of:

Prot Pally
Resto Druid
Holy Paladin
Holy Priest
2x Feral Druid
Demo Warlock (Me)
Balance Druid
Enh Shaman
Survival Hunter

I'm not sure if it has been noted here, but the felguard is invaluable to dealing with adds, seeing as the adds are unable to jump onto pets, and are generally weak at dealing melee damage. We had one hunter be the only person in ranged, and directly prior to a pillar, she would drop a explosive trap and frost trap. The pillar would go off, and all the adds would become active. At that point you want to send the felguard into the very middle, and felstorm them all onto him.
When the first pillar dies, the warlock should get a voidwalker out immediately. For the second pillar, you will need to Demon Soul (its a misdirect with void out). Pop Meta, Immolation Aura, and Hellfire, and stand directly on top of them.

Overall, the fight should go:
Pillar#1 - Felguard
Pillar#2 - MD to void
Spike Phase
Pillar#3 - Felguard
Spike Phase
Pillar#4 - Felguard
Pillar#5 - MD to void
Spike Phase

Hope this helped a group that was having issues with the adds.

Kommentar von 698946

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Kommentar von 655960

Do NOT use Shadowstep!

Kommentar von Spicy

We finally killed him on 10 man lastnight.

We had a druid tanking him and all RDPS/Healers hugged up together behind the boss with the Melee. We had one DK at range that was kiting adds at all times, nobody else touched them.

The thing we noticed was that during the slump phase when the tank gets 'eaten' and the melee jump on his head, there are a few seconds before he gets impaled. It's in these few seconds that he will hit anyone in melee range so we had all of our group back out about 15-20 yards and hug together. (Have someone call it out and back out a few seconds before it starts)

Once the phase was over we continued to stay at the ranged spot until the next pillar came which is normally about 6 seconds after Magmaw is free of the chains. When this pillar spawned we all ran behind the boss to our usual spot. (It's likely the pillar will spawn under the group so we had the DK look out for it and chuck down a DaD for aggro)

We repeated this at every slump phase.

Kommentar von HolgerDK

Killed him tonight (and got the achievement :D) and on one of our tries he slumped outwards away from the platfrom when he got chained down, thereby wasting a whole of dps-time.

Kommentar von 386595

Probably not.
The name is pretty obvious - a composition of magma and maw. Given that you look at his maw a lot, and he rises from a pit of magma... yeah.

Kommentar von 320682

10 man

Ok this fight has to be one of the easiest out of all the cata raids.

We have done it with many different combinations of classes. Only needed class is a good frost DK.

First we have all ranged stack (keep and eye on the timer for pillar in DBM)

Melee stand on the opposite side of V to the tank.

When pillar comes all ranged move, DK needs to pick up all the adds and just Howling Blast them and keep em slowed (hunter helps for that, or rogue with cripplping poison on throw weapon).

Now you need to watch for smoke on the ground because that is where his head will smash down (after the 3rd pillar for the first one and I believe at a certain percentage for the 2nd and 3rd head phase) so you need to move to the side with no smoke, this is also when the healers need to keep the tank up (he lifts the tank pretty high so you need to have the healers close by). We had 2 melee (10man) mount him and immediatley chain him to the spike, the faster the better. This is simple just click the green mount arrow and immeditely click your 1 button and throw the aoe circle on the spike in the middle of the floor.

Now its burn phase you want to save all your cd's for this (ps. DOT's still tick when he goes back up). This is when healers should get back all the mana they can.

Rinse and repeat

Notes to melee:
When he is about to eat the tank he will turn towards melee and randomly hit one of them (think its top threat).

Also when his head is down if you stand behind him in melee he might insta kill you, still haven't figured out what is the best place to stand behind him (feral dps), don't know if this is a glitch and I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere else but be careful IT HURTS! If you can afford it please stand in front of him. I have notcied I am less likely to get hit by it if I am at the complete end of the hit box almost with my back against the wall by the hole in the ground where he comes up.

Kommentar von botono9

I don't know if this has been mentioned, but if you do not successfully chain Magmaw to the spike within 30 seconds, the tank in his mouth will be instakilled by Mangle, regardless of their current HP. The killing stroke is done by the debuff "Mangled Lifeless" if you're looking for it in your logs.

Kommentar von shishkbob

Tried the strats above but tweaked it for our setup.

1 tank
3 heals
6 dps (all ranged: 2 mages, 1 boomkin, 1 spriest, 1 hunter, 1 lock)

Kept the lock out as our ranged bait and had everyone else stack up ON the tank right by the spike. This way, when ignition happens, people just have to strafe a few steps left or right and makes it much easier to move.

Kommentar von 758595

You can easily take care of the adds if you have a frost dk. What you need to do is have the dk throw on blood presense, do D&D and howling blast. Just kite them.

Kommentar von nofuneral

Just did this fight with the new Sweltering Armor debuff that they added. This was intended to get groups to use two tanks. Here's my updated how-to video for using two tanks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qqT6WJtWYE

Good Luck!

Kommentar von armrule

Did with 2 tanks, 3 healers, 3 range, 2 melee

Kill video and tips --> http://raidbriefing.blogspot.com/2011/01/magmaw-10-normal-mode.html

Kommentar von bigearlx

I haven't seen any strat which discusses or even mentions Massive Crash. It's not even in his ability list on this entry, you'll notice, much less in the description of the fight. But it happens sometime during Mangle (so, being a healer, I was too preoccupied to notice exactly when). Magmaw smashes himself down and crushes anyone caught underneath him - it isn't always straight ahead, it almost appears to be targeting anyone else who's left within 20 yards while the tank is in his mouth.

I'm wondering if it's meant to flush/punish people who are using the strategy where everyone stands close to him to control where Flame Pillar is cast.

Massive Crash was responsible for nearly every wipe in the raid I was in last night. It needs to be covered in this Wowhead entry and somebody with more free time than me needs to figure out when, exactly, it happens and how it can be avoided.

Kommentar von snifs

Also drops Taillenschutz des Lebenszyklus

Kommentar von Desperox

Does anyone know if you are able to backstab this guy?

Kommentar von Yohskun

A very good type for Survival Hunters:
Is that hunters can put some talents points on this Frost Trap talent:Entrapment that root all the adds for 4 secs

Kommentar von Kaliara

With regards to Massive Crash, from raidbs.com:

"This ability is what happens when Magmaw is successfully chained to the spike on the floor. It will deal a … well… massive… amount of damage to all players within an ~30 degree frontal cone that only extends 5 yards. It will also stun everyone it hits for 3 seconds. To avoid widespread damage, all melee players should back away while Magmaw is being chained down, and move back in once he has fallen and the Exposed Head of Magmaw is open to attacks."

Yes, it's common sense to not be under the giant worm falling on your head, but things are going to be hectic on your first few tries, and it certainly doesn't help that none of the tactics videos mention this ability at all.

If people are dying to it, it pretty much means they're too close to the boss when he comes slamming down - just back off when they're chaining him.

Kommentar von 45015

Magmaw's Pillar of Flame now prefers targets further than 15 yards away for Lava Parasites and will not be cast more than once per 30 seconds.

Kommentar von Nuume

Has anyone tried the method of having a prot warrior on the adds by himself? I read it somewhere but noone else responded if they had tried it, and I'd like to hear if anyone has before suggesting it in my raid heh. Basically the idea from what I gather is that the parasites do little melee damage, so a prot warrior can literally just tank them, killing with thunder clap, shockwave, and cleave, and heal himself using victory rush every time one dies. They multiply, but it doesnt really matter according to the person posting this. So yeah I was just curious if anyone else has tried something like this.

Kommentar von 314843

Not really mentioned much, but when your on the head a vehicle interface pops up, you'll only have one option which is to chain him. When you press 1 a small AoE circle will appear. Target the spike, every chain that hits the spike extends the exposed phase slightly so this is important.

Kommentar von SuperQue

...lock for shadowfury (glyphed)...

You sure you don't mean glyphed ShadowFLAME? :)

Kommentar von doombringer

We had our first kill last night. Our strategy was to place a single person at range (hunter) so we knew where the Pillars would pop up. When the Pillar was about to spawn, our hunter would drop their ice trap and then dart away. The slowed Parasites would then be further slowed by a frost mage's AOE and earthbind totem, and more damage would come from a Felguard, warlock's fire nova, the hunter's explosive trap, mushrooms, etc. Our druid would use typhoon to knock them back when necessary.

The slowing and the AOE were critical, as was the knockback for emergencies.

Kommentar von lehearts

Magma Spit—Inflicts 39375 to 50625 Fire damage to the enemy target when no player is in melee range. Triggers Molten Tantrum.

Kommentar von 768070

Anyone else think they should have made the achievement for this boss "Liquid Hot Magmaw"? That's what I think of every time I see his name.

Kommentar von 748092

As far as I could read and research, there isn't a specific timer whenever he cast mangle.

Correct me if I'm wrong for this point.

I've noticed that whenever the 3rd pylon of fire spawns (a minute and a half), the tank is grabbed not too long after. Thus, I think it takes around a 2 minutes before your tank get's mangled. That means that your warrior should be able to do shield wall almost every time. As a warrior, I could pop shield wall almost everytime or meanwhile being mangled.

This said, when the first mangle pass, your tank will have a 50% armor reduced for a minute. That means, there will be 30 seconds that the tank will take *less* damage (due to the fact after being mangled, the phase 2 is just a dps him to death and no one gets any damage).

Wanted to note this as it may be important for healers or even the tank itself to know whenever it occurs to pop cooldowns / pay more attention to the tank.

edited for some mistakes.

2nd edit: wrong time approximation for mangle.

last edit as I confirmed yesterday night...

Kommentar von Benjab

If you are having problems with 1 tank, try the strat that I used the first time we killed him.

We used 2 tanks and we were swapping Magmaw after the spike phases, when he comes out again.
Using the tank that wasnt mangled to jump over, or to try incase a melee wasnt 100% focused.

All that made the fight alot easier for healers, because that debuff is big.(used 3 healers also)

Hope it Helps.
2 Tanks first kill by my guild.

Edit: corrected some errors.

Kommentar von 770250

For those who want to down the boss faster(or don't have a sufficient amount of ranged AOE to efficiently kill the parasites) you can have one person kite the parasites the entire fight while everyone else focuses on the boss. My group used this strat to good effect when we noticed that we lacked enough ranged aoe to kill the parasites before the next wave.(note:10man run)

Some pointers for this:
1: Everyone but the kiter must be within melee range of the boss. The flame pillar goes on anyone outside melee range of the boss(Our attempts proved this quite well), so if it always spawns right under the kiter, it makes it easy to pick up, especially if they are out of range of the main group.
2: Use a class with some type of instant, quick cast or pet aoe attack (I was a fire mage doing this, instant flamestrike for grab, shock wave on sections that are separate to help them clump, frost nova to run by if close, blink to great effect, etc etc)
3: If able, give the kiter a light well, soul stone, etc to help them in case they mess up. For the most part you won't take much damage from the parasites unless you doze for a second, and the major moments will be during Magmaw's random fire spit.

You probably won't be able to get the achieve this way unless you have a god doing this, but it makes the fight go faster and reduces the need for having near all ranged dps in group. Hope this helps somebody out there.

Kommentar von Hourglass

Totally off-topic with regards to mechanics and whatnot, but...

Does this boss remind anyone of the dragon boss in the 6th Palace, from Zelda II: The Adventure of Link?

Kommentar von brucek2

Summary says:

Magmaw will periodically Mangle your tank, causing massive damage every few seconds. After 30 seconds of this he'll eat your tank, preventing him from taking any action. Have your tank either blow his cooldowns right before the timer is up and muscle through it, or swap in a second tank.

This may be misleading? From looking at my combat logs from the 10 man version, it seems like Mangle does about 20K per tick, 15 ticks total, with 2 seconds between ticks. But while this is happening Magmaw is not using his melee attack. The melee attack hits for 40-60K roughly every 3 seconds, making it both higher incoming dps and more "spikey".

I had been saving all my cooldowns for the Mangle but am now starting to question this.

What seems most dangerous of all for the tank (single tank version), and is not in the summary, is that once the first Mangle is over, from then on you will have the Sweltering Armor debuff. This costs you half your armor so from now on everything will hit much harder. The basic melee attack can now be 60-90K which makes it fairly dangerous if you have a bad run of avoidance while your healer has a brief distraction.

Finally, I haven't noticed the "eating ... preventing any action" part. Maybe this is just for 25 man?

Kommentar von 772650

We had a problem not already mentioned.

May sound a lil bit silly, but we didn't managed the chains yet (10er).

Although we gave a countdown in ts and it definitivly looked like that there have been 2 Chains nearly at the same time, one of them disappeared (and the rest isn't worth talking about it).

Does anybody know if there is a certain location where to place the chains (we've used the spike in front of magmauw), how much distance they may have from each other or how much time may be between "throwing" them?

Kommentar von Optional

The tankspot strat video is over complicating the fight. This is how we did it.

We put a square on top of one of our melee dps. Everybody but the tank stacks on top of this player.

We leave a trusted mage outside, baiting the pillar of flame. Once it comes, they step forward, frost nova, and we proceed to aoe.

This mage goes back out every time the pillar is about to come back, rinse repeat.

All the ranged stacking and moving together is needlessly risky.

Kommentar von 771790

On our kill yesterday we had him down to 400k HP with like 4 people still alive. He went down from that to dead instantly. He wasnt spiked and no one can figure out where that damage came from. Anyone else experience something like this?

Kommentar von blacknexus94

I see Akirus the Worm-Breaker has a 50% drop rate. Is this on both 10-man and 25-man versions? As a Blood Death Knight, I would love this for my upgrade from Foe Reaper lol

Kommentar von blacknexus94

What would you say a good buffed hp would be to tank this guy? 150k? That's what i've heard

Kommentar von Nuume

Has anyone else had an issue with getting flame pillars in melee? I led a pug doing this last night, and we got to the point where we could handle everything fine, but every single attempt eventually he'd to a flame pillar right on top of the melee group (which was everyone except the hunter) which would kill some and/or make unmanageable parasites and we'd end up wiping. One attempt we had him at 20 percent, and I was watching and saw everyone tightly stacked except the hunter who was about 30 yards away, and he still did a flame pillar right on top of us. I got out of it, and we ended up having 8 ppl survive but then he did the flames on that half of the room and the healer let the tank die when he got mangled (they were oom from trying to heal the flame pillar/add damage since many got infected as well as getting hit by flame pillar) and we ended up wiping at 8 percent. Anyways I was just wondering if something got hotfixed, or if someone was just messing up even though I'm almost positive they werent?

Kommentar von 565611

There's a lot of incorrect info on Ignition and Massive Crash floating around. Ignition does no damage itself (at least not on Normal mode). It is simply a warning of where Massive Crash is about to happen. Get out of Ignition quickly and you'll avoid Massive Crash (dmg & stun). 100% avoidable. Nothing to do with 5 yards from the boss or whatnot. It's very simple.

Kommentar von Dimish

It's suprising no one has mentioned that the mangled tank can start hitting the exposed hit right away. I often deal more than 50% of my total damage to the head because you can pump out more than 100k crits when you have 100% vengeance and are hitting on something with +100% dmg taken :).

(After using your CD to survive the damage , use tab to target the head and DPS away.)

Kommentar von sunogad

Simple Strategy - -

Tank on the right

5 DPS/3Healers on the left - Within 15 yards of Magmaw Stacked - possible with 2 healers if your geared

1 - Survival Hunter(*unproven since 4.06) or Frost DK (with chillbains **STILL FUNCTIONAL AS OF 4.06*) Outside the raid and at least 15 yards from Magmaw

Fight is pretty simple - The phases simply are repeating until he is dead.

Pillar of Flame - this is where there hunter/dk will be taking care of the adds. Pillar of flame comes out every 30 seconds. When it hits there is a halo of fire on the ground you move out of it wait. After it hits there will be 8 to 10 lava parasites landing aoe them down and kite them as necessary. It is important that you wait for all of them to land before you use a big hit on them as they will not be in Line of site until they hit the ground and you could have healers taking aggro from the missed mobs. They are slow and you can continue to kite them with traps or chillbains. (side note: this can be done by any tank as well if they have someone aiding them in a slow. Prot Warriros can use shockwave and take minimal damage while doing this.

Mangle - this is when the tank will need over healing as he is taking increased damage from Magmaw. Tanks will cycle cooldowns for this ability and its not too bad.

Head Jump - during Mangle 2 people must mount the head of Magmaw this is done simply my right clicking on him when you mouseover him and the arrows pop up. Once this is done you shoot the chains at the spike in front of him and we entered a healer regen phase and a 50% dmg buff phase for dps. Potion of Concentration is good for this phase healers.

Last Point - before Mangle hits half of the room will steam up. This will require anyone in the steam to move to the opposite side of the room. This includes the tank. Also something to be watched for by the kiting party of the parasites. If you dont you will either be stunned or smashed or one shot by Magmaw.

Good Hunting.

Kommentar von 781343

here is a video of a tactic kiting adds while all raid hugs at melee and focuses on burning Magmaw down , for some reason i cant paste the link you can search it on youtube as Omen Vs Magmaw Kiting adds

Kommentar von 781750

Just a side note, the 3 mobs in the room have about a 2 hour respawn rate but wont respawn during the boss fight

Kommentar von 261184

Magmaw was just killed as EU 10 man first by Mekanik on Vek'nilash.
He drops the upgrade token for T11 gloves.

Kommentar von zatojin

Setup:

1 Tank
5 DPS
3 Heals
1 DK with Chillblains

So my DK has been off-tanking most of the raid content and when we do magmaw, I just pop over to my frost PvP spec and kite the adds in blood presence with HB and DnD when they spawn. I've gotten the achievement every week with this tactic. I outrange healers occasionally, but AMS, IBF, Lichborne, and Ghoul Eating keep me very alive. We tend to down the boss in 2 mangles.

If you need a hunter at range, this still works - just have the hunter frost trap them first if you need time to get to them.

Kommentar von Nieos

Can anyone confirm or deny if Divine Shield removes the debuff caused from the parasites?

Kommentar von 367286

Heroic Magmaw:

Overview and changes on heroic:

He has roughly 39.2 million hp on 10 man heroic and hits tanks for roughly 60-70k per melee swing. Every 30 seconds, Nefarian will throw out meteors at the raid which cause damage on impact, stun anyone who is in range of it, and spawn Blazing Animated Skeletons that have roughly 1.9 million hp and melee for 40k on tanks. When these mobs are brought to 20% hp, they channel a spell called Armageddon. This lasts for 8 seconds, and if they're not killed, will cause 120-150k damage to the entire raid. These continue to spawn EVEN when Magmaw is being impaled, so be prepared for this. They will also spawn in melee, as well.

When Magmaw reaches 30% hp, Nefarian will no longer spawn Blazing Animated Skeletons. Instead, he will throw out Shadowflame barrages that deal roughly 26k damage and can splash, so stay spread out for it. Currently, you can bring Magmaw to 30% during his Mangle/Impale phase, and bring him much lower without p2 triggering.

Aside from this, everything else remains the same. Parasites still spawn, and at the moment, both the meteor and pillar of flame will spawn at the same time roughly, so plan accordingly.

Kommentar von frohanss

Fairly simple boss. Healers stand close to the boss and our range dps is used to dodge the pillar of flame. Dps must focus on the adds and make sure they don't reach healers.

2 Assigned players should spike the boss when it's possible. Rest should make sure to not "missclick" the spike. Use cooldowns when boss is impaled and healers regain mana at this point.

Our kill movie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SIFgwNCzfc

Kommentar von citrique

Couple things about heroic:

The meteor that spawns the blazing skeleton adds drops a fire patch where they spawned. This fire moves and does 50K/tick if stood in. These can occur in melee and can occur while the head is exposed so melee need to be cautious. Prior to this patch the fire mechanic worked differently, skeletons would drop fire periodically underneath themselves, so their tank could simply kite them out of the room and remove them from the fight entirely. This is why a lot of guilds consider this boss harder now than it was before despite the HP nerf.

The parasite adds get kited for the entire fight, generally by a frost DK with chillblains in blood presence. The cooldown on Pillar of Flame lines up with Death and Decay perfectly, so just drop a D&D underneath the pillar to pick the adds up then start howling blast kiting. The adds will eventually die over time to the damage from frost fever and howling blast; warlocks can use shadowflame and mages can flamestrike for additional damage on them at next to no cost to their boss DPS. You should kite the adds over the exposed head when it's out for additional cleave damage (and so you can howling blast off the head yourself).

Note: try to avoid kiting the adds over the pile of rocks at the left side of the room from where you enter. These pose some LOS issues and can cause the parasites to sometimes evade bug or experience pathing issues, resulting in their threat table resetting or other strange behavior. Do not D&D under the exposed head as Magmaw will do a pillar of flame almost immediately after the head phase and the cooldown won't be up. Your kite path should pass by the exposed head / current skeleton add every 20 seconds so you can blood strike to generate death runes and get a few frost strikes in to dump RP. You can ditch License to Slay for Mirror of Broken Images as you'll never have any opportunity to build License stacks, and swap glyph of Obliterate out for Glyph of Icy Touch.

Kommentar von 527874

Note that this does currently require 2 tanks due to an armor debuff the chewed tank gets.We had tanks rotate around, with the one who isnt on the boss smacking the adds with Avenging shield for slows and finishing off any adds that the ranged didn't fully kill.

Note: It is possible for your whole raid to stack by Magmaw and have just one tank by himself getting all the flame pillars. However, we had problems with the adds going in different directions after dps pulled aggro, so we had them kited towards the raid group.

Kommentar von 710921

If you stay in front of the beak when Magmaw is chained, and the tank stays the closest to the boss, you can avoid being insta-killed by the attack Magmaw does directly after being released from his chains.

Had a few DPS learning this the hard way...

Kommentar von 776523

From what I've been reading and learning from just about all of the posts, this fight is a healing intensive fight? Right? And it is possible to do this fight with all ranged dps...at most. My guild was doing a 10man reg on this fight and we just can't down him fast 80% health. It's annoying. Wipe after wipe, we called it a day after 14-17 wipes.
We have 2 tanks, a pally (MT) and a druid (OT). 2 heals, priest and sham. The dps consists of 2 mages, 1 boomkin, 1 hunter, and 2 locks. All ranged dps.
We tried the strategy of our hunter being the furthest away and having the dps and OT on the left of the boss and that didn't seem to work. His Pillar of Flame spawned on a dps that was grouped with the OT. (Btw we only did that strat once. Cause our guild doesn't wanna try this way again)
So then we had this "big plan". MT and OT were on either side of the boss, while the heals and dps were grouped in the back, when the Pillar of Flame spawned, we all moved to teh other side of the room and dps'd the adds down. (In both strats, teh boomkin would stay with the tanks to jump on the boss when time was called)
This all worked for a certain time, but even if everyone knows what to do, why are we wiping so many times?

Kommentar von frosbyte66

Did they change pillar in 4.0.6? We only did magmaw a couple of times before, but if I recall, pillar didn't hit during the chains or spike phases. We did him for the first time since the patch last night and it did. There didn't seem to be a timer every time for it either during those phases.

Kommentar von 789213

My guild found it much easier to have everyone,save one ranged and one healer, stack in melee range of the boss on the side opposite the tank. The ranged dps and healer staying out need to be at max range from the boss. Doing this will cause the majority of flame pillars to spawn on them leaving all other ranged dps free to dps the adds quickly without having to move. We do normally get one or two pillars in melee range which you will need to be prepared for, but overall this seems to be a much easier strategy for this fight. We also had a hunter dropping frost traps on adds and a boomkin using the talented mushroom slow and glyphed hurricane slow which made adds a piece of cake.

Kommentar von henslock8

~~If I recall correctly, before parasites could only be dazed and slowed.~~ I was actually
able to stun them with Shadowfury which made it hard for them to even come close to us.

Kommentar von 2698

Some advice for healers - I assume you have/will read the other posts concering the general tactics. This is meant for 10-man primarily.

The majority of this fight will be AoE healing, since Lawa Spew and Magma Spit will affect all raid members - there is no way to avoid it. Usually it comes in waves, where Lava Spew hits 3 members at a time. There is no reason to have everyone at 100% at all times, as long as you make sure that everyone stays above 30-35% so they don't get killed by a combination of Lava Spew followed by Magma Spit.

Mana cooldowns should be saved for the "exposed head" phase. Priest shadowfiend will get a good chunk of mana and deal extra damage due to the 200% damage buff. Make sure you time cooldowns between Mana Tide and Hymn of Hope, as you can usually go Mana Tide -> HoH -> Mana Tide (again) during the fight and you should have plenty of mana.

For the tank healer, it can be a good idea to stand with the melee group instead of with the ranged group. First of all, you can concentrate on the tank when the other healers are on the move, and second of all you are sure to always be in range of the tank, especially during Mangle. When the tank gets mangled, he will be pulled away a bit, sometimes out of ranged of the ranged group, and this is where a dedicated healer is really needed. Coordinate with your tank that he rotates his cooldowns during Mangle to lessen the damage taken - Paladins are golden for this fight, DK probably likewise with their plethora of damage reduction cooldowns. Take notice, that after phase 2 ends the tank will still have a +damage debuff, so make sure you keep him healed and preferrably shielded (if you have a disc priest) to mitigate the initial blows.

For priests specifically I recommend having PoM and CoH (for holy) on cooldown at all times, as it is guaranteed never to be wasted with the amount of AoE damage during this fight. For disc priests, keep a shield up on the tank and don't be afraid to spam a couple of shields on low-hp raid members. Barrier is useful at any point during the fight on the raid team as they will take more damage than the melee team - my logs show that Magma Spit does not hit people in melee.

Kommentar von 445371

A wipe a day keeps the doctor away.

Kommentar von 36907

On 10m what strategy would work best with only 1 tank and no frost DK? We have hunter and frost mage on adds, but still can't seem to control the adds well.

Kommentar von omber

Killed by Hordcore on Hydraxis US after two attempts on 10 Man.

Group Composition:

2 Tanks (Paladins)
3 Healers (Priest and Shaman for Raid Heals, Paladin to heal the tank currently beating on Magmaw)
4 DPS (Mages/Warlock/Ele Shammy)
1 Frost DK (we do not have a raid ready Hunter in guild currently) to kite the worms.

What no one seems to mention this is actually a dual tank fight due to the half armor debuff Magmaw puts on tank after Mangle. Because the next Mangle will happen before the debuff can wear off your tank WILL die. There is no way you can heal through Mangle while the tank has this debuff on them, not to mention that Magmaw will hit them like a truck during the fight otherwise.

With this group we downed him on our second attempt with over a minute left on the enrage timer. None of us are epiced out - all of us have a mix of heroic/rep/crafted gear.

Kommentar von yuriken

Just as a confirmation to new tanks or the healers keeping them alive - while the tank's action bar goes away during the pull into Zerfleischen, you get it back a moment later. You have access to both damaging abilities (on the Freigelegter Kopf von Magmaul with Empfindliche Stelle, no less!) as well as survival cooldowns - you just can't move.

If you are tanking this with two tanks, you could use nearly all of your defensive cooldowns on your first Zerfleischen and have most (if not all) of them back by the next one you take (since you are taking turns on the Zerfleischen with your other co-tank.)

Also for tanks or other melee trying to figure out the hitbox for the Freigelegter Kopf von Magmaul - while you may see the red target circle placed awkwardly above the ground and between the spike and the cliff, this isn't where you should be positioning to hit it. Target it and position yourself as if the spike on the ground was your target, and you should be fine.

Kommentar von holyshockadin

Pretty easy boss., the only part you could mess up is the adds

Kommentar von violetta

Blackwing Descent scandal as Nefarian's worm is caught exposing its head to innocent and mentally vulnerable raiders! In-Descent Exposure charges to be filed!

Kommentar von nintendobratkat

http://www.rancidracing.com/WoW/Guides/magmaw.jpg

I made this for fun for a few of my friends. I know it's sloppy but whatever. :D Hope it helps & enjoy.

- Agitate <Burial> Turalyon

Kommentar von 42580

Anybody else having the problem of the green arrow showing up but not allowing you to jump on his back?

Kommentar von xylotism

Inconceivable!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pw6HpFXzTvE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D58LpHBnvsI

Kommentar von Snurp

has been nerfed 10 minutes ago: blazing constructs now have 4.5 million hitpoints in 25man heroic (instead of 6 million)

Kommentar von 99sitr

You are able to BoP and Div Shield while in the mangle, to nullify most of the damage. We recently started 2 healing this encounter on heroic to see if it was a viable strat and it isn't that bad for our setup.

Holy Pally and Holy Priest, Blood DK on constructs, Prot pally on Magmaw, and a Surv hunter on Parasites.

Kommentar von 792650

A Fire Mage's guide to dealing with Parasites:

1. Once pillar goes off, use a blast wave on the adds.
2. Single target one add and use pyroblast on it (Having Hotstreak proc up is preferred but hard cast if needed).
3. Casting living bomb and then combustion on that same add,
4. Use fireblast (with impact proc) to spread the dots to all the parasites.
5. Profit.

If done right, you'll be able to handle rounds of adds all and your own, and your dps for that encounter will be high.

Kommentar von 774590

Protection Warrior Add Tanking

We Downed Magmaw using a 2 tank strategy that some groups might find helpful if you dont have enough ranged to take down the adds comfortably before the next pillar of flame. (10 Man normal)

Tank (any class) on magmaw
Tank (Prot Warrior) on adds
3 Heals (Pallys work really well here if you BoL the Warrior)
5 DPS (Can be all melee if you want, though a boomkin can be very handy)

Warrior Setup:

Do NOT spec into Impending Victory

(you need to be using devastate to proc the ability, and you're going to have your hands full with the adds and doing AoE threat. You probably wont have time to be firing off enough devastates to make this worthwhile)

DO glyph Victory rush (I had Shockwave and TC glyphed as well)

Sample spec here: http://www.wowhead.com/talent#LrZhb0oZsfGzRRodbu

Placement

Tank on right side, dps/healer pile on left. Warrior at range (I like to be around the broken tiles near the spike in the floor (further out than his head will drop on)

As the Warrior is the only one at range, he should be the target of all the pillars and therefore all of the adds should spawn on him.

The Basics

Keep yourself faced away from the raid (looking back at the stairs). Once the first pillar comes (and you've moved out of the proc zone) Once the parasites spawn:

Rend
TC (for BnT)
Shockwave
Then AoE Threat talents

You will get infected by the adds. This is the reason you face away from the raid as they vomit out about 3 yards infront of you and do not move for the first 2-3 seconds.
If you are facing the raid, you will vomit one closer to the raid group and will slowly start to creep towards the raid (and therefore towards a raid wipe)

Facing away from the raid means that it vomits the parasite away from the raid and it will have to run towards you to get to the healers (aggro targets) and you can snap the aggro back to you without moving close to the raid.

Essentially you will need some heals for the first part of the fight (if you dont have a BoL) but once you start killing the adds with your cleaves/shockwaves/revenges/rend etc. you will start to proc your Victory Rush and can then heal yourself quite easily.
Once it starts to proc, use it when your health starts to drop and you will be able to maintain yourself almost indefinately without much support from the healers.

Troubleshooting

If the creep towards the raid starts happening due to a few missed parasites, then the best way to regain control of the situation is with a typhoon from a boomkin to push them back during the burn phase (as people will be dps'ing the head and will be able to come out to help you a bit)
Some AoE damage on the pack can also help early on to reduce the incoming damage (by decreasing the number of them) and also by reducing their health and allowing you to proc victory rush self heals.
If someone isn't standing in melee range and gets a pillar on them (hopefully not too close to the dps/healer pack) Heroic Leap into the pack as it spawns and then get a typhoon from the boomkin to push you away from the raid.
If you're finding that the adds are getting away too fast before you can get another thunderclap off to spread rend, then make sure to use the piercing howl after you see them spawn, this should help you gain a few more seconds to snap them back to you.

Kommentar von ZelosRaine

From a Disc priest:

This fight can be two or three healed, and there are numerous strategies. I will assume that your raid is 1) stacking in melee with a tank or kiter at range and 2) that you, as a Disc priest, will concentrate mostly on the tank.

Whatever the composition and strategy, a few things remain constant:
1) You must have cool-downs for Mangle. I use my Pain Suppression for the first Mangle (as well as ensuring I have a full stack of Evangelism for Archangel) and ask the tank to save big cool-downs for the second Mangle. By the time the third comes up, your Pain Suppression should be off cool-down again. Please encourage your other healers to throw some heals on the tank as well (pally beacon is awesome because they can concentrate on raid while still helping on the tank :D)

2) You need to help out on Lava Spew. I try to have a PW:B up for as many of these as I can. Remember to throw it out BEFORE the spew happens.

3) You will probably be low on mana after the first Mangle. Never fear! The timing of abilities means that you will now spend a significant portion of the rest of the fight with Magmaw pinned, meaning opportunities for mana restoration abound!

4) The first spike phase is perfect for Shadowfiend. The damage he does will be maximized while your mana pool will definitely appreciate the boost. Also, you should, with the right talents, be able to get a second Shadowfiend off again if the fight drags on too long.

Best of luck!

Kommentar von PROXiCiDE

Becareful when auto targeting, or randomly clicking around the floor because you can attack him through the floor just at your feet etc.. and even at the stairs

Kommentar von 813399

Blackwing Descent Raid Group (10-man)

Preferred Group (not required): (Preferred Classes are underlined)

Get 3 tanks (1 Death knight, 1 Paladin, 1 Warrior)
Get 3 healers (1 druid, 1 Holy Priest, 1 Paladin/Shaman)
Get 2 melee range DPS (1 Rogue, 1 Death Knight/Warrior)
Get 2 Ranged DPS (1 Hunter, 1 Mage/Boomkin)

Healers and Tanks MUST know the fights and MUST be raid-ready geared. DPS DO NOT need to know the fight but must have high dps.

Trade Chat message: Looking for More for Blackwing Descent Raid (10-man). All must be raid-ready geared and all heals and tanks MUST know the fights. DPS DO NOT need to know the fights, but must have high dps. All spots open! Vent is not required, we use voice chat! Pst for more info.

Magmaw Strategy: Have 4 zones (mark them using raid icons): Tank zone (blue), Ranged zone (green), Second Ranged zone (purple), Melee Zone (Yellow)

Pre-Phase: Have 2 heals (1 targeting the tanking group, the other targeting the kiting tank or the ranged group ) in the melee zone and the other one (targeting the ranged group with AOE heals) in the ranged zone. One of the heals in the melee group will be constantly switching between the kiting tank and the ranged/melee. 2 of your tanks will be on Magmaw nuking him and the other will nuke until parasites come out, which he will kite around. This part is CRUCILE! The Tank must kite successfully and that must be the SAME TANK throughout the fight. This tank will be fighting in the melee ranged position and MUST not use aggro abilities; his main purpose is just to nuke Magmaw until the adds spawn, NOT to tank Magmaw unless one tank dies. Don’t switch the kiting tank!

Phase One: When Magmaw enters his 1 phase, which is the majority of the fight, he will continuously beat on the tank. This can be simply avoided by lots of hard single heals. However, Magmaw has a nasty ability that allows him to spit a large amount of fire at the ranged group. When the ranged group sees this, they must run to the second ranged zone. In order to avoid confusion, have one man designated to voice-chatting the attack and telling the group to “MOVE!” IF this fails it is a wipe. Immediately as the ranged moves, the kiting tank need to come out of the tanking zone and begin to kite the parasites around and the ranged must forget about Magmaw and take down those parasites that spawn with the lava attack. Also one of the melee ranged heals must switch to healing the kiting tank (pre-determine who will do this before you go into battle). If you can, have some of the ranged attackers cast some slowing spells, (such as Ring of Frost) to help the tank kite them around. If either the lava OR the parasites touch him (in which case more will spawn and each time the touch him, the tank takes massive damage), IT IS A WIPE! So pop your cooldowns, slow those critters down, whatever you have to do to kill those things in a hurry without letting them touch the tank or any other raid member. Once the parasites are dead, have the tank return to the tanking spot and repeat phase 1 when necessary.

The second part of Phase one is very short when Magmaw will literally eat the tank and he will be taking massive damage and will be for quite some time due to a de-buff. After the tank is released from the Constricting Chains (see below), have the second tank switch off and permanently become the new tank until Magmaw eats him. These two tanks will be continuously switching off to mitigate the damage done to them.

Phase Two: Magmaw will pretty much be in phase one most of the fight, but he sometimes enters a phase two which is where he takes 200% damage. This will happen when chains get attached to him from the melee attackers. This only happens when the tank is being eaten! A new ability will be on the melee attackers where the need to constrict Magmaw to the ground where he is useless and doesn’t attack. However in order to attack the Exposed Head of Magmaw, your DPS must use it at the same time. At this point NO ONE must be under him or else you take a MASSIVE AOE damage and will WIPE! After clearing out of the way Magmaw’s head should be jammed into the ground and will be taking double damage. This is a great opportunity to get some mana back for the heals (use mana-regeneration spells by popping your cool downs), heal your raid members, or just nuke Magmaw using powerful cooldowns that increase damage done/attack speed etc. Once this is over return to Phase one.

If you continue to follow these phases you will do just fine and defeat Magmaw. GOOD LUCK!

Kommentar von quiztic

Why doesn't this have heroic loot? Does he drop a tier part on heroic?

Kommentar von Teaspoon

I've noticed a lot of confusion among raiders (both guildies and pugs) due to bad information on this and other websites about the abilities this boss has. Let me clear a few things up (check your own logs and the strat videos on Youtube to confirm)...

Massive Crash is the "Magmaw slumps forward and exposes his pincers" move, which makes him a "vehicle" for using the chains on. On 10-man, it occurs exactly ten seconds after the tank is afflicted with Mangle (ie, the tank has 20 seconds remaining on their Mangle debuff). The graphic effect that looks like steam coming is NOT "Ignition" (Ignition is a heroic-mode-only effect that's like Pillar of Flames on steroids), but is actually part of the Massive Crash animation and shows which side the Massive Crash is going to come down on. You need to get to the non-steamy side within 10s of the start of Mangle to avoid getting hit for 50-70k and stunned, and the people who are on chain duty need to stay close enough that they can get back over and hop on straight after it happens. If you're on chain duty and you get hit by Massive Crash you're going to have a hard time hopping on due to the 3s stun. Everybody else needs to not get hit by it too, because it costs the healers a lot of mana to top everybody up when they SHOULD be going into a regen phase.

Kommentar von omberzombie

Some clarification on several abilities:

Mangle - your tank will be mangled for 30 seconds, after which they will be killed if Magmaw does not get impaled. Because Magmaw does Mangle before exposing his pincers your DPS will have closer to 15-20 seconds to impale him before the tank dies.

Sweltering Armor - this debuff never falls off before the next Mangle. The debuff lasts 60 seconds from the moment the Mangle ends and will be refreshed as consecutive Mangles come at much quicker intervals - I did not count but it is something short - maybe 30-45 seconds. Because of this on our first successful attempt regular 10 Man Magmaw we used two tanks to make healing easier.

Chaining Magmaw - to chain Magmaw the two people doing it must cast the chains on the spike more or less at the same time. There is very little room for mistakes - use your voice comms to call it out.

Kommentar von citrique

Heroic:

Due to one of the last hotfixes that affected this boss, some raid groups which were having more difficulty with this boss can now use a much simpler alternative strategy.

The meteor that spawns Blazing Skeleton adds will now prefer to target ranged players. What this means is you can now have your entire raid group except for the parasite kiter (presumably frost DK), a hunter and a healer for the kiter/hunter stack in melee range of the boss.

As each skeleton spawns, the hunter misdirects it to whatever tank handles them. The parasite kiter just picks them all up and kites them around for the entire fight, they won't be killed. With this strategy, the Ignition fire is virtually removed from the fight, and disc priest barrier / prot paladin raid shield wall etc can be used for lava spew to mitigate raid damage taken. This also gives the raid significantly more DPS time on both the boss and the head, because the raid just about never has to move, except to avoid massive crash if it happens to be on the side of the room the raid is on. Healers/ranged DPS don't have to move out of Pillar of Flame or meteors.

At 30% when Nefarian starts shooting shadow bolts, the raid spreads out as normal to mitigate damage, since no more skeletons spawn it becomes a trivial burn phase.

Kommentar von Iroared

He's not meant to melee while chewing the tank, right?
Because I just got meleed for 130k as a healer and it looks like a bug to me. Or was I possibly doing something wrong?

Kommentar von c0h3n

I found that while doing this boss yesterday that I was having trouble targeting the Freigelegter Kopf von Magmaul. I'm not talking about the usual "my specials are hitting but my auto attack isn't" troubles. I mean I couldn't bring up the boss on target for a while.
Obviously this is a huge dps loss and could lead to a wipe (especially on heroic), so I created myself a little macro and thought I'd share it. Use this on one of your main abilities. I used stormstrike as I'm an enhancement shaman. A fire mage might use living bomb. Basically just sub in whatever you know you can hit magmaw with first when his head drops down.

#showtooltip
/tar Exposed Head of Magmaw
/cast Stormstrike

Edit: I forgot to mention you can just have this replace your usual ability as it will only target the exposed head if it is on the ground and targetable. Otherwise it will function as normal.

Kommentar von Nechryael

If anyone was wondering, you CAN fall of the edge in which he comes from, I just did now..

Kommentar von pro428

Here's some tips for heroic magmaw:

* Have someone kite the parasites such as a hunter or a DK in blood presence or however.

* Assign warlocks & mages or any caster that can cast in melee range to go stand in melee range.

* When magmaw reaches 31-34%, stop dpsing and let him enter exposed head phase, pop heroism and every cooldown you have, the second phase won't start if the head is exposed. Usually, you can dps it down to around 10-20% during that time.

* Do not use frost traps under fire or any place where the ranged group might move towards/in, they make the fire and more, hard to see.

* Do NOT move too far, you want to limit it as much as possible.

* Reset the ranged position per every exposed head, unless there's fire there, then do it right beside that.

* Try to assign some people to nuke the skeletons after the first exposed head, and some(very little) to attack magmaw.

Then again, it's a preference how different guilds do it, i just think these tips may be found useful in some way.

Good luck on your kill :)

Kommentar von 160798

During the Magmaw fight I have not had any problems until recently. I am a paladin tank and usually solo tank magmaw. Gear is reasonable for the fight - ilvl 358 PvE all tank gear gemmed for mastery > stam > hit > expertise. 167k HP unbuffed, etc. The last 2 times I have tanked this, I have died during the mangle phase, I have tried popping ardent defender and both of my shields at about the "8 sec to go" point during mangle, and each time I have been one-shotted from 175k+ health remaining. When we have our off-tank take the boss and I deal with the adds, there is no problem at all, so I am trying to figure out what is going wrong. Since this has only happened in the last 2 weeks I think either something has changed in the fight, or I am doing something wrong that I was not doing before. Does anyone have any ideas out there as it's getting kinda irritating!

Thanks

Kommentar von 859969

We've found that a bug which causes pets to not reappear after exiting a vehicle also applies to using the chains on magmaw. That means that our Unholy DK lost his ghoul every time he hit the chains.

Kommentar von Eillesthis

As a Survival Hunter, an Orakeltalisman der Ablution kicks ass with the Lavaparasit adds.

With two of these equipped you can fire off Mehrfachschusss almost continuously, as the Automatischer Schusss between them help kill off your target quickly, refreshing you for the next Mehrfachschuss. If you're laying traps the free s from accelerate the process. Once you get going your new target is that much closer to death from the previous Mehrfachschusss, so at the end the adds are dying in rapid succession and you're only limited by GCD.

The benefit outweighs the loss of two 359 or 378 trinkets if you're on add duty, since add control is more important than your contribution to the boss on the burn phase, and anyway the sooner the adds are down the sooner you're back to dps-ing the boss.

Kommentar von 973701

Possible to solo as blood dk. Used DPS trinkets and Rune of Razorice for higher dps.

Kommentar von TdarKoNe

We recently did this fight on 10-man mode with an ilvl 488 Blood DK and 495 Elemental Shaman.

Full video on YouTube

This fight was pretty easy with 2 people, but still can be tricky.

Magmaw does a decent amount of damage, but nothing you shouldn't be able to handle. He'll use a variety of fire attacks to damage your party.

Periodically throughout the fight Magmaw will shoot a pillar of flame, causing a fair amount of damage with a knockback. This will also spawn lava parasites that you'll want to take out ASAP.

Magmaw will also use an ability called mangle, where he'll pick up his current target in his jaws and clamp down. This deals quick a bit of damage BUT while you're in his jaws you'll be able to attack his exposed head. Continue to deal damage to his head and keep your health up until it's over.

He also uses an ability called massive crash that deals a lot of damage and stuns all players for 3 seconds. Normally after this you can use the grappling hook to pull his head onto the spike, however you need at least 2 players to do this.

Also try not to stray too far out of melee range, otherwise he will enrage for 10 seconds increasing his fire damage by 100%.

Kommentar von cyrien

Just soloed this guy as a lvl 90 guardian druid 552 ilvl. Pretty easy for a tank.

Kommentar von Cheebeechoobza

This is apparently soloable as a mistweaver monk. Wasn't too hard either.

Kommentar von Morzella

Just soloed Magmaw as a 560ilvl Elemental Shaman. I stayed in melee range the entier fight. First batch of Parasites were killed bouncing Chain lightning off the boss. The second batch manged to outrange the cleave but I found they could be safely ignored. When Magmaw grabbed me in his mouth I assumed this was the end of the fight for me. However it turns you can still act normaly from this postion, able to dps him and self heal as needed. I did however happen to have an Earth Elemental up when this occured. This may have affected how Magmaw reacted with me in his mouth.

Kommentar von genasi

solo'ed on 10m as a 565 BM hunter with tank pet and mending glyph. He hits really really hard, your pet will likely die if you ever forget to keep mend pet up. The parasites on the other hand are a pushover

Kommentar von Araitik

Magmaw 10 man Heroic solo'ed by a Mage

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhekPQHJOHA

Enjoy :)

Kommentar von soubii

Soloed as an ilvl 562 Brewmaster Monk with 107k dps in 3 min 30 sec using a standard rotation, agility flask, and Pandaren Treasure Noodle Soup (+450 stam). A fairly straight-forward fight.

Kommentar von Acann

Shadow Priest Soloing Guide:

530ilvl, mostly PvP gear.

Talents & Glyphs -
T1: Void Tendrils
T2: Angelic Feather
T3: FDCL
T4: Angelic Bulwark
T5: Divine Insight
T6: Divine Star

Inner Fire
Inner Sanctum
Prayer of Mending

Strategy -

Attack outside of melee range. Avoid the pillars and kill the spawned parasites with Mind Sear (don't get within melee range of them). When he picks you up, attack the exposed part, maintain heals and shield during this phase as you take quite a bit of damage. After he releases you it's just a matter of rinse and repeat till he dies.

Kommentar von bluudbath

90 hunter easily soloed 10n.

Kommentar von createdbyx

Killed it quite easily in 25man heroic solo Feral Druid 642 iLevel at level 100

Here is a video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIfCpDi6J5E

Kommentar von eric0707

Killing Magmaw 25 heroic solo ilevel 670 --> https://youtu.be/_aD1NqPInGw

Kommentar von TonyB500

Anyone else notice how Magmaw's mouth moves really, really fast? I listened to that verse in "Rap God" before I fought him and Magmaw's mouth movement kinda matches the verse. XP

Kommentar von HeKol

On an average of 10 runs Magmaw 25HC rewards 206 gold, 61 silver and 66 copper after vendoring dropped gear.

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Magmaul

Dieser NPC befindet sich in Pechschwingenabstieg .

PechschwingenabstiegMagmaulOmnotron-VerteidigungssystemMaloriakAtramedesSchimaeronNefarianMagmaulPechschwingenabstiegStrategiePhase 1

Magmaul wirkt Flammensäule, was eine Stelle markiert. Ihr habt dann vier Sekunden Zeit, so schnell wie möglich von dieser Stelle wegzukommen. Seid Ihr zu langsam, erleidet Ihr hohen Schaden und werdet zurückgestoßen.

Das Wirken von Flammensäule beschwört auch mehrere Lavaparasiten. Wenn diese Euch treffen, erhaltet Ihr einen Schwächungszauber, der nach 10 Sekunden Flächenschaden am Schlachtzug verursacht und weitere Lavaparasiten beschwört.
Ihr werdet nicht von diesen Parasiten getroffen werden wollen; Fähigkeiten wie Frostfalle und sind sehr hilfreich. Verlangsamt die Parasiten und tötet sie so schnell wie möglich von weitem.

Magmaul wirkt periodisch Zerfleischen auf Euren Tank. Kurz danach wirkt er Zündung (siehe unten), und es folgt darauf Phase 2 (siehe weiter unten). Sobald der Tank zerfleischt wird, sollten die mächtigeren Zauber eingesetzt werden, um zum Überleben des Tanks beizutragen. Eure Schadenmacher müssen sich schnell um die Fesselnden Ketten kümmern, oder Euer Tank überlebt das Zerfleischen nicht. Nebenbei bemerkt: der Tank kann den Hinterkopf von Magmaul angreifen und durch Empfindliche Stelle um 100% erhöhten Schaden verursachen.

Magmaul wirkt auch Zündung, was eine Hälfte des Raumes in Feuer setzt. Haltet Eure Augen für Dampf offen, und wechselt zur anderen Seite.

Phase 2

In Phase 2 fällt Magmaul nach vorne. Wenn dies passiert, sollen zwei Nahkampf-Schadenmacher die Spitzen benutzen, um auf seinen Kopf zu springen. Diesen steht die neue Fähigkeit Fesselnde Ketten zur Verfügung; diese müssen gleichzeitig benutzt werden, um Magmauls Kopf auf diese Spitzen aufzuspießen. Andernfalls kommt Magmaul frei und Ihr verliert wertvolle Zeit und vielleicht sogar Euren Tank.

Wenn korrekt ausgeführt, wird Magmaul doppelten Schaden erleiden und unfähig sein, irgendetwas in der Phase zu tun. Dies ist eine gutze Gelegenheit für Heldentum/Kampfrausch/Zeitkrümmung.

Bosskampfkompendium

Heroisch		Mythisch
Tödlich		Wichtig
Tank		DPS
Heiler		Unterbrechbar
Magie		Fluch
Gift		Krankheit
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Magma speien – Magmaul speit eine Magmasalve auf drei zufällig ausgewählte Spielercharaktere und fügt jedem 44 Feuerschaden zu.
In Schlachtzügen für 25 Spieler spuckt Magmaul auf acht zufällige Spielercharaktere.
Flammensäule – Magmaul beschießt den Boden zu Füßen eines zufällig ausgewählten Spielercharakters mit kochender Lava. Der Boden am Einschlagsort zerbricht, wodurch Eruptionen entstehen, die Spielercharaktere innerhalb von 5 Metern hoch in die Luft schleudern, alle 0.5 Sek. 123 Feuerschaden verursachen und mehrere Lavaparasiten hervorrufen.
- Lavaparasit – Diese schwerfälligen Kreaturen bohren sich in das warme Fleisch der Spielercharaktere, wenn sie angreifen, und infizieren ihren neuen Wirt.
  - Parasitäre Infektion – Wenn ein Lavaparasit sich in das Fleisch eines Spielercharakters bohrt, verursacht er 10 sec lang alle 2 Sek. 21 Schaden. Nachdem die Infektion abgeschlossen ist, übergibt sich der Spielercharakter und setzt damit den Parasit frei, der sich dann einen neuen Wirt sucht.
Lavafontäne – Magmaul speit einen Strom aus geschmolzener Lava über allen Spielercharakteren aus und fügt ihnen so 6 sec lang alle 2 Sek. 26 Feuerschaden zu.
Geschmolzener Wutanfall – Wenn Magmaul zu irgendeinem Zeitpunkt keinen seiner Feinde mit seinen Nahkampfangriffen erreichen kann, verfällt er in Raserei. Er bombardiert alle Spielercharaktere mit 'Magmaspucke' und erhöht 10 sec lang seinen verursachten Feuerschaden um 100%. Dieser Effekt ist stapelbar.
Zerfleischen – Magmaul packt sein aktuelles Ziel mit seinem Gebiss und beißt mit zermalmender Kraft zu, wodurch er alle 2 Sek. 139 Schaden verursacht. Nach 30 sec wird das Opfer zu Tode zerquetscht, es sei denn, es kann vorher befreit werden. Wird Magmaul aufgespießt, spuckt er sein Opfer wieder aus.
- Brandheiße Rüstung – Während ein Spielercharakter von 'Zerfleischen' betroffen ist, schmilzt Magmauls brennender Atem seine Rüstung, wodurch sie 1.5 min lang um 50% verringert wird.
Massives Schmettern – Magmaul schmettert seinen gesamten Körper auf eine Hälfte des Raumes, fügt allen Spielercharakteren unter ihm 167 Schaden zu und betäubt sie 3 sec lang. Magmaul selbst ist kurz nach dieser Attacke ebenfalls betäubt, wodurch es zwei Spielercharakteren möglich ist, auf seinen Rücken zu springen.

Bändigung eines Lavawurms

Unmittelbar nachdem Magmaul 'Massives Schmettern' vollzieht, besteht für zwei Spielercharaktere kurz die Gelegenheit, auf seinen Rücken zu springen. Von dort aus können sie Ketten benutzen, um Magmaul an die vor ihm aus dem Boden ragende Spitze zu ketten und ihn darauf aufzuspießen.

Haken abfeuern – Spielercharaktere, die sich auf Magmauls Rücken geschwungen haben, können einen Haken auf die Spitze vor dem Wurm abschießen. Trifft der Haken, kettet er Magmaul 3 sec lang an die Spitze. Wenn ihn nur eine Kette hält, befreit sich Magmaul bald wieder davon, es sei denn, eine zweite Kette wird erfolgreich mit der Spitze verbunden. In diesem Fall ziehen die Spielercharaktere die Kette ein und spießen Magmaul auf der Spitze auf.
Empfindliche Stelle – Wenn Magmaul aufgespießt ist, liegt sein ungeschützter und ungepanzerter Kopf bloß und kann angegriffen werden. Der Schaden gegen Magmauls ungeschützten Kopf ist um 100% erhöht. Magmaul befreit sich nach 30 sec von der Spitze.

Lord Victor Nefarius – Auf heroischem Schwierigkeitsgrad kommt Lord Nefarius hinzu, um zu sehen, wie die Abenteurer mit seinem Haustier ringen, und um sie zu behindern.
- Loderndes Inferno – Lord Nefarius lässt einen Meteor aus Knochen und Feuer auf die Position eines zufällig ausgewählten Spielercharakters niedergehen. Der Meteor fügt Spielercharakteren innerhalb von 4 Metern 74 Feuerschaden zu und stößt sie zu Boden. Die Explosion erzeugt ein loderndes Knochenkonstrukt und entzündet in einem spiralförmigen Bereich um den Einschlagsort Flammen, die sich sehr schnell bewegen.
  - Zündung – Das lodernde Inferno erzeugt sich bewegende Flammenfelder, die einen Wirbel um den Einschlagsort bilden und Spielercharakteren im Umkreis von 2 Metern alle 1 Sek. 54 Feuerschaden zufügen. 'Zündung' erlischt nach 1 min
  - Loderndes Knochenkonstrukt – Jedes Mal, wenn Lord Nefarius 'Loderndes Inferno' wirkt, erzeugt er ein einzelnes loderndes Knochenkonstrukt.
    Feuriges Schlitzen – Das Konstrukt schlägt mit seinen brennenden Klauen nach seinem Ziel und verursacht 75% seines normalen Nahkampfschadens als Feuerschaden.
    Armageddon – Sobald ein loderndes Knochenkonstrukt nur noch 20% seiner Gesundheit übrig hat, bereitet es sich auf die Selbstzerstörung vor. Sobald diese abgeschlossen ist, löst 'Armageddon' eine massive Explosion aus, die das Konstrukt vollkommen zerstört und allen Spielercharakteren (100% of Spell power) Feuerschaden zufügt.
- Schattenodem – Sobald Magmaul 30% seiner Gesamtgesundheit erreicht, greift Lord Nefarius etwas direkter in den Kampf ein und verschießt Salven aus schattenhaften Flammen auf zufällig ausgewählte Spielercharaktere. 'Schattenodem' fügt allen Spielercharakteren innerhalb von 5 Metern um das Ziel 26 Schattenschaden zu.

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