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Argent tournament quest chain with Alliance links

1.

The Argent Tournament

Congratulations on your new achievement!

2.

Up To The Challenge, complete the following daily quests to earn enough Aspirant's Seals to continue. (15 seals at 5 per day)

The Aspirant's Challenge

You will be offered one of these quests based on your race:

And another achievement!

5.

The Valiant's Charge, complete the following daily quests to earn enough Valiant's Seals to continue. (25 seals at 5 per day)

The Valiant's Challenge

A Champion Rises

Eadric the Pure or The Scourgebane

10.

Start earning Champion's Seals from daily quests to purchase rewards.

After completing A Champion Rises, quests open up allowing you to repeat the valiant stage of daily quests for the other factions with which you have not yet earned the right to champion.

Take a look at The Black Knight of Westfall? for another quest chain, also see achievement list for something to do on your spare wow time
Some of the links may seem to be broken for the first few days after release of patch 3.1.0, since the quests or items don't exist in wowhead database.... yet.
See http://www.wowwiki.com/Quest:The_Aspirant%27s_Challenge for more info.

Kommentar von AusSpyder

Gaurenteed way to win (assuming no disconects or unforseen glitches)

First off, forget the combo training you did, the comp is often faster cause of ping. Its very unreliable and often just gets you killed. If you try for it, the computer will just do it to you and you will be in a bad way

Start the fight with 3 stacks of Defense
Melee him till he moves to range
Charge his rear
melee till he moves to range again
Repete till victory

Only refresh defense while in melee range, as it shares a cooldown with your ranged attacks, but not your melee. If its on CD when he moves to range, you will be combod and very likely lose

Kommentar von Mantrhax

i lost the lance , and now ? noone give me the lance again

Kommentar von fossilx

it appears as though this quest is somewhat buggy. after defeating my second valiant the first time i did it, i was stuck in combat and it appeared as though i was out of sync with the server. i was unable to dismount or interact with any npc's. relogging however seemed to reset my status and allowed me to continue with the quest.

as far as the strategy mentioned above, i simply used:

stack "Defend" 3 times (button 4)
start the fight and use the rotation:

wait for him to walk away and use "Shield-Breaker" (button 2) - hopefully getting "Shield-Breaker" on before the npc turns to you
charge him** as soon as the cool down is up and use thrust. after charging i would occasionally refresh defend if needed.
gain some distance and repeat process

** i think the npc's only charge when they're within a certain range. backing up gave me more time for charge to refresh.

i dont think i've missed anything. if you miss the charge because he gets too close, i just thrust once, refresh Defend, and gain distance to start off with shield breaker.

good luck, its pretty easy once you get used to the timing :D

Kommentar von 14033

You can't always just defend and charge, because for instance the Nelfs dodge your charges. But I found it easiest to just go best the Horde Valiants, because they are all the same, not different like the Allys. Probably work the other way around too.

Kommentar von darthspaz

They can be DPS'd by someone else while you're fighting them, so if you got a friend, bring them along to make it easy.

Kommentar von 114927

I know other kind folks have entered a strategy for beating the valiants but I will still post mine.
This has proven to be quite consistent for winning.

First off, always have 3 stacks of shield up and wait for the cooldown to finish before engaging the valiant, that way you can pop one right away if needed.

When you challenge the valiant he will run away. Hit him with a shield breaker at this point and then catch up to him to close the distance.

At this point keep hitting thrust, it is a toe to toe fight and you will be winning since nearly all the times I have done this he has not refreshed his shield nor taken a stack of yours.

During this make sure your shield is at 3 stacks and if he starts to run, shield break and close the distance again to thrust as long as the valiant will take it.

You can at any point during the toe to toe, break off for a second to shield break and
possibly charge. I found the charge while dealing a nice amount of damage to be somewhat unreliable for me but do try to do it once in a while to speed up the process.

Quick recap

1 - Get 3 stacks of shield (let Cool down wear off)
2- Start fight
3- Shield break right away
4- Close gap and thrust at weakened valiant
5- When valiant runs away, shield break and close gap to thrust.
6- break away once in a while, hit him with a shield break, charge if you can if not close the gap and thrust away.

Remember to keep 3 stacks of shield up as much as possible.

This works for me and hopefully it helps someone else.

Kommentar von valdisxp1

IGNORE ALL THE GUIDES THEY WONT HELP!

Kommentar von 85599

After reading all these sugegstions, and getting the damn quest today, i tried for about one hour without being able to kill one damn valiant
Problem wasn;t the strategy, but the internet connection...if you have the least lagg on you, you will probably fail this.
I tried at work for more than an hour without being able to kill one, but as soon as i got home to a betetr internet connection i did it all in under 10 minutes

How? easy

Just as the people said:

1. Stay behind, in range to talk to him
2. When he moves, use CHARGE, not Shield Breaker
3. The charge will get you past him, far enoguh for you to use a Shield Breaker on the Valiant
4. By the time he reaches you, you will have had the time for the second Shield Breaker....this way he is Shieldless and you can pound him
5. When he moves from you, repeat from step one...and remember to have your shield up at all time

GL

Kommentar von 250091

Here's my strat guide for this coming from someone who regularly has a 300ms ping while doing this and the charge is notorious for bugging with a high latency:

1) Equip Lance
2) Mount up
3) Build up 3 stack shield
4) Talk to NPC to start fight
5) He starts the fight and walks away, charge as soon as you can
6) While charging spam lance (you should hit when you get close enough)
7) As soon as you pass the guy, spin around to face him and get within melee range
a) if you spin fast enough, you can get off a shield bash here while getting in melee range
8) Spam lance and get your shield back up to 3 stacks
9) The enemy will turn and start to walk away. Either stand still or back up slightly and charge when the range is great enough
10) repeat 6-9 until he is dead

Kommentar von 354238

Definitely not possible with 700ms lag. Just don't waste time on this one. *personal xp*

Edit: yes, you can do it if you learn the technique *again personal xp*

Kommentar von guntitan

Lost? Can't complete the quest? Can't mount the Quel'dorei Steed or Sunreaver Hawkstrider?

You can now mount your race specific mount and are supposed to use this mount to complete this quest.

Alliance

Night Elf - Stabled Darnassian Nightsaber
Human - Stabled Stormwind Steed
Gnome - Stabled Gnomeregan Mechanostrider
Dwarf - Stabled Ironforge Ram
Draen - Stabled Exodar Elekk

Horde

Troll - Stabled Darkspear Raptor
Forsaken - Stabled Forsaken Warhorse
Orc - Stabled Orgrimmar Wolf
Blood Elf - Stabled Silvermoon Hawkstrider
Tauren - Stabled Thunder Bluff Kodo

Kommentar von 339934

One strategy, guaranteed to work unless you mess up =D. Takes Forever though.

When the fight starts, charge him, you should have a few K health ahead of him now. Now, watching your defense, make sure it does not expire, thrust and thrust and thrust. It will only hit 325 damage on 3 stacks of defense, but if you keep doing it, you will finish the fight with bout 2k health. It takes about 5 mins per kill, but if you are hopeless like me, it works.

Kommentar von Camril

Ok Guys, I have great news for all!

After much tries I found 1 REALLY SUCCESFUL tactic :)

1) Stack 3 defense (4) and talk to valiant to begin the fight.
2) 1 Charge (3) when he goes away. Don't try to do anything while your mount is running after charge. Just turn around to it while still holding the mouse cursor. This is very important to notice: Your mount will stop itself after charge running and you will stand next to the valiant. Don't click run at all after charge, just turn him to the valiant.
3) While you are standing next to the valiant - always use lot of mellee (1)

He will try to go away - repeat 2) and 3) suggestions repeatedly. What's the secret? Well I have noticed that after charge - I always tried to run more than I need. You don't need to click anything after charge to run next to valiant. You need just to turn your mount around. It will stop itself.

* Here you don't need to use Shield breaker at all and - the most important - you will not loose any of 3 stacks of defense. Proven strategy by myself!

Kommentar von 29992

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8ZHhBiNJ4w&f=22

Good video showing how to do this!

Kommentar von Mechanical

You can do this quest while in a raid group.

Kommentar von dakoth

Posted this on the Champion quest but I figure it works for this as well - it's the same, just easier. Just replace 'champion' with 'valiant.

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The key to doing this easily is to recognize the fact that Thrust (1) and your other abilities do not share the same GCD. What this means is you can basically Shield-breaker (2) or Charge (3) and instantly thrust afterwards, to increase your DPS output.

The second thing you have to know is that the NPC champions have 'modes'. There are 2 obvious ones; the first is what I call 'melee' mode. He's just basically going to try to hug you and keep spamming thrust on you. It's a very simple, but annoying mode, as getting out of melee range to toss a shield-breaker can be somewhat difficult at time. His thrusts will do minimal damage with 3 shields up, so ignore them. The second mode I call 'running away' mode. He's just trying to get out of melee range to get a charge or shield-breaker on you. The third mode you will hopefully not see much of, as it is what happens when you screw up.

The basic idea is that the NPC only updates his 'mode' every few seconds. Weaving in and out will prevent your opponent from entering his third mode (where he throws his shield-breaker or charges), as he will only do that if you are outside of his melee range. His choices when you are inside melee range is either to sit in 'melee' or 'running away' mode.

Your goal should be to hug him as much as possible, strafe away on every cooldown, and do 2-1 to whittle away his shields. If you lose a shield, you should stay in melee and do 4-1. If your opponent runs out of shields you should strafe away and do a 3-1 instead of a 2-1 for increased damage output; it's harder and riskier to pull off a 3-1 than a 2-1 so just do it when he's out of shields. It's very important that you DO NOT sit there outside melee range waiting for your shield-breaker or charge to land; Just use it and then instantly get back into melee range before it lands, to avoid letting him enter this third mode. If you do let him get away from you (surprising you with switching from 'melee' to 'running away' mode might do that), just try to get back to him as fast as possible. Use charge if you have it.

Good luck. I do this every day and finish the 4 champions with 80% left without ever having to heal my mount. Once you got the trick of it, it's very simple really.

Kommentar von xXNaKXx

If you are a human, then your racial ability Diplomacy will up the original reputation you get, to the following :

69 reputation with Darnassus
69 reputation with Exodar
69 reputation with Gnomeregan Exiles
275 reputation with Stormwind
275 reputation with The Silver Covenant

Kommentar von Thandor

I've tried this 7 times. The NPC doesn't seem to have the global cooldown issue the rest of us have, as he gets 2-3 simultaneous hits on me. Guess i'll never be a champion...

Kommentar von 36966

1) stack 3 defense
2) talk to target NPC from behind
3) back up, because target will move forward - the distance this creates gives you your first charge
4) charge act like shield-breaker in that it removes a layer of defense from target
5) as soon as you hit, of course charge will still have you running, but use mouse and change direction!
6) change direction so your target is in front and shield break!
7) now close distance and melee. your thrust should hit harder because your first sortie took two layers of defense off target
8) after 2-3 thrusts, target will move back to charge you!
9) move in opposite direction from target and charge first!
10) repeat 5 and 6 after your own charge
11) redo your own defense, in the melee sessions, because the two don't share cooldown
12) if you have to choose between defense and charge when target is moving away from you, charge!
13) wash, rinse, repeat
14) i finish these fights in 2 minutes or less and with 70% plus hp

EDIT:
15) you have to use all the abilities available to you, don't grind it out with just one or two abilities.
16) the game's own recommendation of shield breaking and then charging don't work because of GCD

Kommentar von oedura

For those of you that suck on ice, like I do...

Stack your shield to 3 before you start (obviously). Take two fingers. Put them on keys 1 & 2. Put your other hand on your mouse. Challenge your opponent.

When the fight starts, began rapidly hitting keys 1 & 2 over and over again. Stick to your opponent like glue. Don't give him even an inch to breathe. Follow him everywhere. If you give him any room at all, just make it a few feet to get in the occasional Shield Breaker. When necessary, repair your shield. If he starts to wander too far from the field, just back up a little to lure him back in. Charging is not even necessary.

This probably won't help if you just have latency issues, but if you just suck at jousting it works. I was running around and charging and trying to throw Shield Breakers from halfway across the field like I saw the people who are good at jousting doing and I was losing every fight. When I started sticking to my opponent like glue and spamming Thrust/Shield Breaker, I started winning every fight.

The downside is that it's a bit slow and it'll make your arm ache after a few matches.

Kommentar von Drelf

Being in Australia, I thought high ping times were the reasons I failed this all the time. I used to melee only just to compensate.

But now I always win with 95% health (and quickly) following the following method:

1. Put 3 stacks of "Defend/Shield" (Button 4). This has a 60 second cooldown which should last fight - OR be sure to refresh once during fight
2. Go behind NPC facing their back and request fight. They will automatically run away from you.

The key - if you have full shields, DO NOT follow NPC - let them go away from you
* If you have no shields, then follow your NPC and keep stacking shields.

Having shields up to Defend is always MORE IMPORTANT than attacking

3. Each time NPC goes away wait for buttons 2&3 to show, then hit 2 then 3 quickly.

This results in:
* NPC loses a shield
* NPC takes damage (with 2 shields NPC will lose a little, with 1 shield a little more, with no shields the NPC is going to die)

4. Use keyboard keys to turn around and always face NPC. Use key 1 a bit until NPC moves away again.
5. NPC moves away again - 2,3

Repeat until done. You should be able to do 4 melee's in 4 minutes.

Kommentar von Lucilite

If you're doing this at level 60 or above (not Chromie Time obviously), you really don't need to use Defend at all. Your mount syncs to your level, at least in terms of defense.

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Der große Arenakampf

Bringt 3 Male des Recken zu Hauptmann Joseph Holley beim Argentumturnierplatz.

Lanzen gibt es auf jedem Lanzenständer in der Nähe der angebundenen Reittiere vor dem Silberbundpavillon oder im Pavillon selbst, falls Ihr die Eure verlieren solltet.

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Der große Arenakampf ist der wichtigste Wettkampf des Turniers. Die Bürger von Sturmwind lieben ihre Ritter über alles und freuen sich darauf, uns gewinnen zu sehen. Damit das auch geschieht, haben wir im Kampf gegen die Recken der anderen Allianzhauptstädte an unseren Fähigkeiten gefeilt.

Ich schlage vor, dass Ihr es ihnen gleichtut.

Geht zu den Reittieren außerhalb des Pavillons, nehmt Eure Lanze, steigt auf das Streitross aus Sturmwind, das dort steht, und fordert die Recken heraus. Sie warten im Ring der Recken der Allianz gleich außerhalb unseres Zelts.

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Bei Abschluss dieser Quest erhaltet Ihr:

250 Ruf mit der Fraktion Sturmwind
250 Ruf mit der Fraktion Der Silberbund

Wenn du Folgendes im Spiel eingibst, kannst du überprüfen, ob du das schon abgeschlossen hast:

/run print(C_QuestLog.IsQuestFlaggedCompleted(13665))

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