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Kommentar von 848107

This is actually a great thing blizz has given us. I personally hate doing dailys on my JC especialy the elemental goo quest cause it takes flying time and killing, and considering my jc is resto sham only that quest takes me awhile XD. Considering it takes 3 spirit of harmony which are bop right now i wonder how hard it will be to complete these daily.

Kommentar von 175315

I personally don't like researches because of their randomness. I always buy recipes for myself, my alts and friends first, with this, i have to only hope to actually learn something I actually want

Kommentar von yjesus

Apparently, it is a research, but you can choose which gem-color design you wish to get.

For example, researching using red gems, will give you a red gem cut, using blue gems, will give you a blue gem cut, etc. If you have all of the red gem cuts and you are using red gems, you will get a randomized other color cut.

You can do it once a day, but you can reset it using 3 Spirits of Harmony.

Great method IMO, as a dedicated JC since TBC, starting with checking on the AH endlessly for world drop cuts, then farming Dailies endlessly hoping to get all the cuts. The MoP way is much more doable without taking like 6 months.

Kommentar von ComaCanadian

To clarify a bit, to learn blue (superior) quality cuts, you need to do a research craft. Alchemists will know this mechanic.

There are two types of research, this one, which uses the Spirit of Harmony world drop bop crafting mat. This has NO cd, so as long as your able to farm and get spirits of harmoney, you can do a research. Which will teach you one cut you do not know of any type of gem.

The other type is specific to the gem you want. you can do only one research of a specific type, so if I do the red (primordial ruby) research, it locks out any of the other colour specific researches, so I cant go and try to sepcificly research blue (rivers heart) cuts.

Secrets of the stone does NOT reset the cd of the colour specific researches. So you can do 1 specific research a day, and unlimited random researches through this.

doing any kind of research will give you a Facets of Research, which is a bag that gives cut gems and some grey vendor trash.

Kommentar von defektunge

There are two ways to discover rare gem cuts in MoP:

Spend three rare gems of the same color to learn a random gem cut for that color. This has a shared one day cooldown (resets at midnight), meaning that you can learn one new cut per day. If you know all the cuts for that color, you learn a random cut of another color.
Spend three Spirit of Harmony to learn a random cut of any color. This has no cooldown.

So basically this lets you bypass the cooldown in order to learn gem cuts slightly faster. Do note however that Spirits of Harmony are bind on pickup, and that there are other things to spend them on. They're also used to create the Jade Owl and Sapphire Cub non-combat pets, which are not soulbound, meaning that you can probably sell those pets for quite a bit of money. Especially early on, when no one has them yet and a lot of people are spending their SoHs on research.

Kommentar von Ogloplol

Perhaps it's just a coincidence, but I just learned 4 Primordial Ruby designs in a row using this. Noticed I have more rubies than any other gem in my inventory, so maybe that has something to do with it. Then again, coincidence..

Kommentar von peachi

Spending 3 Spirit of Harmony here doesn't trigger any cd, and learn you a random MoP-rare gem pattern.

Secrets of the Stone

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Once a day, you can also learn a pattern with a cheaper way, spending 3 uncut gems of the color you want.

The gem pattern learned has the same color as the gem you just spend. If you already know all the patterns of this color, an other random MoP-rare gem pattern is taught to you.

Blue : 4 different gems.
Red : 5 different gems.
Yellow : 5 different gems.
Orange : 22 different gems.
Purple : 14 different gems.
Green : 18 different gems.
total = 68

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Open a Jewelcrafting panel first!
Use this command line to print how many MoP-rare patterns you've learned of each colors. (only works enGB/enUS)
Open a Jewelcrafting panel first!
/run local c,r,w,z=0,0,{"Riv","Primo","Sun'","Verm","Impe","Wild"},{0,0,0,0,0,0} for i=1,3^7 do local s=GetTradeSkillInfo(i) or 1 for j=1,6 do if strfind(s,"%s"..w) then r=r+1 z=z+1 end end end print(r.."/68") for i=1,6 do print(z,w) end

Kommentar von Tomro

Once you have learned all the gem cuts, this is no longer usable. It says "Nothing left to discover" and doesn't cast. So no converting spirits of harmony into two free cut gems at that point, spend them elsewhere.

Kommentar von Galatonic

For anyone curious. This is a linear progression of what you learn when you do a Geheimnisse des Steins research. It will go Red -> Blue -> Yellow -> Orange -> Green -> Purple and you will learn the cuts in alphabetical order. You can predict the cut you will be gettin' every time you use three Geist der Harmonie. Usin' a specific gem will give you a random cut of that colour, however. After completin' an entire colour, if you do a research of that colour, say for example you have learned all Rubellit cuts, it will teach you a recipe of another colour. I have not attempted to make a cut once I have completely a colour, but my assumption is it follows the same rules of Secrets of the Stone at this point. This may be beneficial for anyone tryin' to complete all the Jewelcraftin' cuts for Mists of Pandaria because they can use cheaper gems (Rubellit and Chrysokoll usually) and learn all the remainin' cuts instead of bein' forced to use their more expensive gems. Hopefully this helps anyone who is curious about how this spell works.

Kommentar von 1117679

I just want to make sure that using this teaches you the same things as the 3 rare gem researches, and nothing else. Basically if you have a ton of harmonys you can learn all the rare cuts in a day. If you are not in a hurry it seems like the harmonys are better spent upgrading uncommon gems to primal diamonds, and just stick with the CD research.

Kommentar von ash23

From peachi's script is there any way to add a "out of" in the output it will say Primordial Ruby 5/5?

Kommentar von Luinias

Is there a similair Leatherworking skill to this?
Or any of the other professions?

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Beruf: Juwelierskunst von Pandaria (25)
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