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Kommentar von Sleuth

Few things to note about this new Blacksmithing spell.

~~It currently does not specify any 1 day cooldown, like you get from Living Steel. However, I expect it will have a 1 day cooldown when it hits live so it comes in line with the other professions.~~ This has a 1 day cooldown that makes it into another daily-transmute or daily-gem craft as you see in Alchemy and Jewelcrafting, and now Leatherworking and Tailoring too.
It doesn't mention that it is limited to the current expansion's Blacksmithing plans, nor does it mention anything about raid-only dropped plans. I fully expect this to discover all plans available in game, preferring higher level over the lower level plans first. This could put excessive value into the profession for some people who get lucky, which I believe is the way the devs wanted this to go. EDIT: seems to be prioritising the new crafted PVP gear for now.
~~The operative word here is "may". This is what further reinforces my expectations that this will have a cooldown - or a phenomenally low chance on no cooldown (a.k.a. a money sink)~~ Certainly has a cooldown and seems to be a guarantee to discover a recipe.
The recipe for this spell (from Merkwürdiger Metallbarren) seems to have been hotfixed so that players can't aggro Itoka any more (thanks to minikeg654's comment for the info).

Obviously this is just speculation and we'll know more when it ~~hits Live servers~~ has had more time.

EDIT (for live): As with the other profession changes, most people are reporting that they are learning PVP gear recipes for the moment and we should start to expect other patterns as soon as that becomes less of an option for this spell to choose from.

Kommentar von 1080691

it says 605 blacksmithing, I thought it only went up to 600 with zen master.

Kommentar von Grogal

So this recipe reward possiblitly is purely random?
Say I want this recipe : Heimgesuchter Stahlkopfschutz I could go on forever if unlucky?
That would kinda suck : s

Kommentar von dlbert2000

Getting "cannot use this here" error when trying to use this now everywhere I try

edit: this was the hotfix Blizzard implemented before your server reached stage 4 to prevent the few people that had gotten the Lightning Steel Ingot pattern before it was removed from getting a huge advantage over the rest of the blacksmiths

Kommentar von minikeg654

This has a 1 day cooldown and can teach you how to make Dreadful PvP gear. I'm not sure what else you can learn. I used it and learned how to make Hergestellter Plattenhelm des schrecklichen Gladiators. I learned this the first day 5.2 launched and haven't been able to use it again, I guess you need a thunder forge now.

Kommentar von 1105055

i have 4 of these ingots so far. i logged in today and tried to caft my 5th one in hopes of making a weapon.

"You can't use that here."

i cant use it anywheres. not at the thunderforge, shrine, anywheres. does blizz really expect people to wait 2-3 weeks to make plate? my server isnt getting the next zone anytime soon seemings its been almost a week and we still dont have it.

i'm so sick of getting ^%#$^@ed over by blizz

Kommentar von Tubbyone

This will not always teach you a Plan you dont have. i have crafted it twice since my server opened the thunder forge and no new plans yet

Edit: Since making 4 more bars i have gotten a plan each time. Maybe it was just a glitch for the first couple of bars. OMW to making Lionheart Executioner, Reborn. :)

Recipes learned:
Hergestellter Schreckensplattenhelm des schrecklichen Gladiators
Hergestellter Plattenhelm des schrecklichen Gladiators
Hergestellte Schreckensplattenschultern des schrecklichen Gladiators

And 1 iLvl 522 Item Heimgesuchte Stahltreter

Kommentar von 1073528

Do u always get an epic item recipe when crafting it? Or is there a chance not to get anything or to get pvp items? Cause my first try today and got an epic head am I too lucky?

Kommentar von bqiyue2

In case someone did not post this before, you don't need to stay in the actual lightning forge to make this item. Any anvil works.

However, making the remake of TBC weapons requires thunder forge, even though tooltip does not indicate that.

Kommentar von Phalek

Phalek here, on my Server the Lightning Forge has been open for two days, giving us currently only 2 chances to use this cooldown, on both attempts i have received an Epic Recipe - 1st day = Haunted Steel Dreads, DPS Haste, Mastery boots - 2nd day = Haunted Steel Headguard, Tanking Parry, Mastery helmet. Im curious on if the epics are alot more common than they should be, or if i have been really lucky this far?

Kommentar von Voodoojam

The list regarding the learnt recipes is currently wrong here.

You will learn the 522 items and the 458 pvp items by creating this ingot.

After creating 5 Ingots you can build one of the 463 reborn Weapons to learn the 476 version and after 10 more Ingots you will learn the 502 Version(The final form) that requires 15 Ingots

Kommentar von Wolgan

----------------------1h Weapons----------------------

Stage 1 - Item Level 463 Rare
Donnerstahlbarren	x 5
Lebendiger Stahl	x 2
Geist der Harmonie	x 3

Stage 2 - Item Level 476 Epic
Donnerstahlbarren	x 10
Lebendiger Stahl	x 4
Geist der Harmonie	x 6

Stage 3 - Item Level 502 Epic
Donnerstahlbarren	x 15
Lebendiger Stahl	x 6
Geist der Harmonie	x 9

Grand Total
Days to Complete: 30
Donnerstahlbarren	x 30	(300 Geistereisenbarren)
Lebendiger Stahl	x 12	(72 Trilliumbarren)
Geist der Harmonie	x 18

If Transmuting Ghost Iron to Trillium, add Geistereisenbarren x 720 to total.

----------------------2h Weapons----------------------

Stage 1 - Item Level 463 Rare
Donnerstahlbarren	x 5
Lebendiger Stahl	x 3
Geist der Harmonie	x 3

Stage 2 - Item Level 476 Epic
Donnerstahlbarren	x 10
Lebendiger Stahl	x 6
Geist der Harmonie	x 6

Stage 3 - Item Level 502 Epic
Donnerstahlbarren	x 15
Lebendiger Stahl	x 9
Geist der Harmonie	x 9

Grand Total
Days to Complete: 30
Donnerstahlbarren	x 30	(300 Geistereisenbarren)
Lebendiger Stahl	x 18	(108 Trilliumbarren)
Geist der Harmonie	x 18

If Transmuting Ghost Iron to make Trillium, add Geistereisenbarren x 1080 to total.

Kommentar von 370563

Is this going to still be 1 a day in WoD?

Kommentar von Zapph

This recipe is learned from Pläne: Donnerstahlbarren which is a quest reward from Donnerstahl, which is started from Merkwürdiger Metallbarren, a 100% drop for Blacksmiths from Itoka, an easy mini-boss mob on the Insel des Donners. The quest also gives a bonus Donnerstahlbarren on completion. If you drop Blacksmithing and relearn it, you will simply have to kill Itoka again and you can loot the recipe directly from him.

The recipe creates 1 Donnerstahlbarren at the cost of 10 Geistereisenbarren and can only be crafted once per day at any Anvil. You will always learn one of the Haunted Steel / Crafted Dreadful recipes each time you craft an Ingot until you have learned them all, meaning you will need a total of 38 days and 380 Geistereisenbarren to learn all the recipes.

A useful script that will place an icon on your cursor which you can drop into your action bars and allows you to craft from there is:

/run PickupSpell(138646)

Donnerstahlbarren is used exclusively for crafting 6 BoE (3 one-hand and 3 2-hand) "Reborn" weapons which are identical skins to previously removed Burning Crusade Weaponsmithing weapons, with each craft having an ilvl 463 blue version which can then be upgraded to epic 476 ilvl and a further upgrade to 502 ilvl, each costing more mats and each having a slightly different appearance.

Each upgraded version is learned from crafting the previous weapon the first time and requires the previous weapon to be consumed on craft.
Make sure to equip the weapon before crafting the next stage if you want to learn the transmog as it is BoE by default.

Material Costs:

Weapons	Mats to craft:	Upgrade 1	+ Additional mats:	Upgrade 2	+ Additional mats:	Total mats
Wiedergeborene Drachenfaust	5 Donnerstahlbarren 2 Lebendiger Stahl 3 Geist der Harmonie	Wiedergeborenes Drachenmal	10 Donnerstahlbarren 6 Lebendiger Stahl 6 Geist der Harmonie	Wiedergeborener Drachenschlag	15 Donnerstahlbarren 6 Lebendiger Stahl 9 Geist der Harmonie	30 Donnerstahlbarren 14 Lebendiger Stahl 18 Geist der Harmonie
Wiedergeborene Brandwache	Wiedergeborener lodernder Wächter	10 Donnerstahlbarren 4 Lebendiger Stahl 6 Geist der Harmonie	Wiedergeborener lodernder Zorn	30 Donnerstahlbarren 12 Lebendiger Stahl 18 Geist der Harmonie
Die wiedergeborene Planaraxt	Die wiedergeborene schwarze Planaraxt	Tückische wiedergeborene Schneide der Ebenen
Wiedergeborene Löwenherzklinge	5 Donnerstahlbarren 3 Lebendiger Stahl 3 Geist der Harmonie	Wiedergeborener Löwenherzchampion	10 Donnerstahlbarren 6 Lebendiger Stahl 6 Geist der Harmonie	Wiedergeborene Löwenherzrichtklinge	15 Donnerstahlbarren 9 Lebendiger Stahl 9 Geist der Harmonie	30 Donnerstahlbarren 18 Lebendiger Stahl 18 Geist der Harmonie
Wiedergeborene Mondsichel	Wiedergeborenes Mondspaltbeil	Wiedergeborener Blutmond
Wiedergeborener Donner	Wiedergeborener Donnergroll	10 Donnerstahlbarren 4 Lebendiger Stahl 6 Geist der Harmonie	Wiedergeborener Bote des Sturms	30 Donnerstahlbarren 16 Lebendiger Stahl 18 Geist der Harmonie
Total:	30 Donnerstahlbarren 15 Lebendiger Stahl 18 Geist der Harmonie	+ 60 Donnerstahlbarren 30 Lebendiger Stahl 36 Geist der Harmonie	+ 90 Donnerstahlbarren 45 Lebendiger Stahl 54 Geist der Harmonie	180 Donnerstahlbarren 90 Lebendiger Stahl 108 Geist der Harmonie

Kommentar von pakteri

This will make your life easier! Try it out.
To make this work; you have to run the script in the chat box (you copy-paste it and press enter) and it will create an icon that you can drag onto your bars.

Alchemy

Alchemischer Katalysator : /run PickupSpell(156587)
Alchemiegeheimnisse von Draenor : /run PickupSpell(175880)
Transmutieren: Lebendiger Stahl : /run PickupSpell(114780)

Blacksmithing

Echtstahlbarren : /run PickupSpell(171690)
Schmiedegeheimnisse von Draenor : /run PickupSpell(176090)
Ausgeglichener Trilliumbarren : /run PickupSpell(143255)
Donnerstahlbarren : /run PickupSpell(138646)

Enchanting

Temporaler Kristall : /run PickupSpell(169092)
Verzaubergeheimnisse von Draenor : /run PickupSpell(177043)

Engineering

Getriebefederteile : /run PickupSpell(169080)
Ingenieursgeheimnisse von Draenor : /run PickupSpell(177054)
Jards merkwürdige Energiequelle : /run PickupSpell(139176)

Inscription

Kriegsbemalung : /run PickupSpell(169081)
Inschriftengeheimnisse von Draenor : /run PickupSpell(177045)
Rolle der Weisheit : /run PickupSpell(112996)

Jewelcrafting

Taladitkristall : /run PickupSpell(170700)
Juwelenschliffgeheimnisse von Draenor : /run PickupSpell(176087)
Schlangenherz : /run PickupSpell(140050)

Leatherworking

Poliertes Leder : /run PickupSpell(171391)
Lederverarbeitungsgeheimnisse von Draenor : /run PickupSpell(176089)
Gehärteter prächtiger Balg : /run PickupSpell(142976)
Pracht des Leders : /run PickupSpell(140040)

Tailoring

Hexenzwirnstoff : /run PickupSpell(168835)
Schneidergeheimnisse von Draenor : /run PickupSpell(176058)
Himmlischer Stoff : /run PickupSpell(143011)
Kaiserliche Seide : /run PickupSpell(125557)

PS: You can do this for all your spells on your professions. All you gotta do is check the spell id from wowhead and use it.

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Donnerstahlbarren

Donnerstahlbarren

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Geistereisenbarren (10)

Stellt einen Donnerstahlbarren aus Geistereisenbarren her. Dabei könnt Ihr zusätzliches Wissen über Geistereisen erlangen und einen Schmiedeplan entdecken, den Ihr noch nicht kennt. Dieser Vorgang kann nur einmal am Tag durchgeführt werden.

Beute von: Itoka
Zone: Insel des Donners

Donnerstahlbarren
Gegenstandsstufe 30
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"Wird von Schmieden verwendet, um mächtige Objekte herzustellen."

Maximaler Stapel: 1000

Verkaufspreis: 5

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	Geistereisenerz (20)
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	Geistereisenklumpen (200)

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