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Kommentar von 92403

We're going to definitely hold strong when it comes to tanking!

You have to remember that Blizzard has removed Blessing of Salvation so this additional threat generated will be needed to keep up with that change.

End result is that warriors and paladins are going to be able to do a "bit" more damage in their tanking spec.

By the way, druids and deathknights should already do enough damage.

Kommentar von 179520

I can't wait to combine this nice skill with my Tome of the Lightbringer

Kommentar von 162664

On top of everything, I hear STR will give 0.5 SBV instead of 0.05, so this puppy is going to be ridiculous. You hear about people experimenting with shield slam sets, and now it's 200%.

But wait, there's more! Not only is it twice the slam, but there's better multipliers (ie sanctity aura) and don't go anywhere, 'cause it's holy, not physical, so it ignores armor! Better still, there's no dodge/parry/block, only the rare spell "resist"/miss! Order now!

Seriously though, it'd be 3k easy. Today. Noncrit. And ridiculous damage means ridiculous threat, "900 TPS" might not seem dazzling, but that's on top of whatever getting hit and blocking does (holy shield etc) as well as melee and whatever else is done with the GCD.

Kommentar von 122976

Sorry ive seen it said to many times in comments here about 190% threat, this is NOT the case as the 90% threat bonus has been removed from righteous fury to allow for these higher damage abilities.
RF still gives the damage reduction but these abilities due to the change to righteous fury generate only the standard threat.

Kommentar von weezel

This spell is going to be pure WIN. Cant wait for this

Kommentar von blackcrusader

vanilla wow pally tanks: whimps
TBC tankadins: well, were getting somewhere
WotLK tankadins: warriors and druids step aside as main tanks, paladins get 100% aggro on undead and demons, plus lay of hands just went from that annoying anti-wipe spell to the master heal(only 3 raids and their wings are not undead based(ulduar, the nexus, and certain wings of Azjol-Nerub are not undead))

although a realatively sharp blow to paladins is the change to seals and the lost of seal of the crusader

Kommentar von 166026

hurray, another step closer to losing the uniqueness of the paladin tank
plus now rogues will know not even to attempt to kill a protection paladin because not only will he be unhittable and able to heal but do massive damage as well.

Kommentar von 240479

Any reason that this seems to be only available to Alliance so far? The only two trainers listed above are both in Alliance capital cities. I would like to know if there is a Hord equivalent with perhaps a different name?

i.e.:
Seal of the Martyr / Seal of Blood
Shield of Righteousness / ?

I should hope I did waste too much gold/effort working on my block value only to find out Blood Elfs will not be getting this spell, I would probably have to reconsider what spec I will be leveling as if not.

Kommentar von 240479

Please do not take me for a fool, I understand and have been very well aware that this is an expansion talent learned at level 75. I was not looking for it on the class trainers as of now. My question was irrelevant of that information, I was inquiring about the information posted on the "Taught By" tab at the top of the page. Where it is only showing alliance trainers.

Kommentar von Cytrus

I think that, to be more realistic, Blizzard should add a short stun/daze effect to this spell.

Kommentar von 127328

Can this be used while silenced like HotR?

Kommentar von heine123

you can with Shield slam, so is assume you can with this also, and dosen't really look to me that its a spell, so yea, i gues the answer would be: yes, haven't tested tho, i level as Retribution atm hehe, tho ill proberly respec Protection quick to test this Imba Ability out today, maybe id test the silence thing also, who knows
ill be back!

Kommentar von 250704

Did a 5,5k crit with rank one, very powerful ability <3

Prot4evah

Kommentar von 33826

on live, rank one gives SVB + 390 dmg, not sure about rank 2 yet, will check

Kommentar von 261024

I'm Holy specced, and was excited to try this out. It causes Holy damage and the tooltip clearly states that it is a spell. So I thought it would make use of my spell power and I would finally do some decent damage. Unfortunetly it only takes your block value into account.

Kommentar von Corbis

I have been waiting for a ability like this for Paladins for a looooong time....

So, i'll pull out a Starcraft quote, Hell, it's about time.

Kommentar von 255473

First of all, let me thank Bareno for this protip and promacro. Simply amazing, and a new favorite macro for me. :)

Just an FYI, kinda an bug atm, but This spell + rank 2 of ShoR don't share cooldown... so if you want to optimize this, make an macro like...

#showtooltip Shield Of Righteousness(Rank 2)
/castsequence reset=10 Shield Of Righteousness(Rank 2),Shield Of Righteousness(Rank 1)

It casts rank 2 first, than rank 1.

Hi, I'm Defense, on Onyxia-US PvP. I decided to post some numbers here to give people a better idea of this spell's potential.

After noticing some rather high numbers (to my pleasant surprise, of course), I started putting together a block set. I reached 1322 Block Value with Redoubt (but without the WOTLK-nerfed +5% block value meta, which I am suddenly beginning to crave for a block set :P).

Note that with my block set, I use the Libram of Obstruction and Lavanthor's Talisman to reach 2352 Block Value without any strength buffs.

Here is the full data for my SoR and HotR (simply for comparison's sake) from a Heroic Azjol-Nerub run that I tanked (or maybe dpsed...):

Shield of Righteousness
Hit: 2517 (minimum), 3571 (average), 5633 (maximum) -- Hit 79 out of 99 casts. (79.8% of the time)
Crit: 5362 (minimum), 7050 (average), 9970 (maximum) -- Crit 18 out of 99 casts. (18.2% of the time)
Missed 2 out of 99 times. (2% of the time)

409,021 total damage.

Hammer of the Righteous (with 2 piece T7 bonus for an additional +10% HotR damage and a 130.2dps DK-optimized tanking weapon, because better tank weapons wont drop for me :<)
Hit: 1154 (minimum), 1543 (average), 2124 (maximum) -- Hit 127 out of 154 casts. (82.5% of the time)
Crit: 2367 (minimum), 3129 (average), 3759 (maximum) -- Crit 22 out of 154 casts. (14.3% of the time)
Missed 5 out of 154 times. (3.2% of the time)

264,822 total damage.

This is all with Shield of the Templar, 3/3 and One-Handed Weapon Specialization, 5/5.

Highest crit I've done with this ability: http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/3863/wowscrnshot120608005137bv9.jpg

27,112 crit on Malygos. (buffs: Kings, Strength of Earth, Lavanthor's Talisman popped , libram , Avenging Wrath, and 2x Malygos spark buffs) I dps'ed the fight as prot and got 4th (this on our first night of attempts, and my dps being 4th may be a reason why we didn't down him. :D)

Kommentar von 161863

As an 80 paladin with 1200 Block my Shield hits for 2200 and crits for 5500. With http://www.wowhead.com/?item=40707 it hits for 3200 and crits for 7900. With Avenging Wrath....You don't want to know.

Cheap mana cost, great threat and burst for PVP.

Kommentar von Gnub

Yay, the skill every Diablo II "Smiter" has been waiting for!

Kommentar von Yaushee

And how much can a 75 holy specced paladin hope to do with this spell? Does it helps with leveling?

Kommentar von Drenlox

its really sick watching this crit when you pop a BV trinket, AR and judge with right libram. its not a solid sorce of extra dps since its 2 chances on max outbput for 2 cycles every 3 minutes..but when mr tank can pump out 9 k crits..you got bragging rights for recount data mwahaha

Kommentar von 328684

Confirmed testing on the PTR a few mins ago, the damage seems to remain unchanged, my SoR is still hitting for exactly the same amount. A tooltip change apparently, not any buff or nerf.

Kommentar von 39468

So what was the reason for taking the threat off this spell? What's it for if not for tanking?

Kommentar von 147633

Because the damage is being buffed significantly.

Kommentar von hispanoloco

very awesome. love smacking people with my shield

Kommentar von 127730

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff303/Mislyre/11-1.gif?t=1235729450
SUUUUUPER~~~~~~~

Kommentar von 318852

Although the spell doesnt mention it I´ve come across that when used in arena it will interrupt any spellcasting... can anyone confirm this?

Kommentar von TheMuffinMan

That's insanely good.

Kommentar von Jinton

We cannot confirm that, although Avenger's Shield now has a silence effect. Did you confuse these two?

Shield of the Templar: No longer increases the damage done by Holy Shield, Avenger’s Shield, and Shield of Righteousness. Now grants 33/66/100% chance to silence your Avenger’s Shield targets for 3 seconds.

Kommentar von lovelywaz

New PTR (3.2) notes:

Shield of Righteousness: Now deals 100% of shield block value as damage instead of 130%.

Source: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=17899680776&sid=1

Kommentar von 350135

Shield of Righteousness: Now deals 100% of shield block value as damage instead of 130%. In addition, the benefit from additional block value this ability gains is now subject to diminishing returns. Diminishing returns occur once block value exceeds 30 times the player's level and caps the maximum damage benefit from shield block value at 34.5 times the player's level.

Shield of Righteousness wording has been changed from "causes Holy damage equal to 100% of your block value" to "causes Holy damage based on your block value"

Rather large nerf there tbh >.< anything over 2760 SBV is uselss. I have about that just now (pvp set) before the buffs. I need to get back on the PTR to check this out properly tbh but I can see the days of 15k shield slams are gone :( (30k+ if its the WSG flag carrier with the debuff :P) I'll update when I have more info.

Kommentar von Spike15

anything over 2760 SBV is uselss

That's inaccurate, and is not how DR works.

If the DR doesn't start until 30 * (level), then you won't see any DR at all until you reach 2400 BV. Once you reach 2400 BV each successive point of BV thereafter will contribute less and less and less to your ShoR, with an infinite amount of BV required to reach 34.5 * (level) contribution.

Kommentar von 652365

I just noticed this, but when i had divine plea up and used this move it refreshed divine plea. :D No more waiting around 45 secs for a new divine plea

Kommentar von Oakenshadow

I figure this is modified by spell power since it's holy damage?

Kommentar von Zarem

This is a great ability in 4.0, crits for around 13k on training dummies in full 277 gear for me. Its sad though cause it takes around 14s to gather 3 stacks of holy power from HoR, meaning in theory if you were using this on 3 stacks only, from live it would be used on a 14s rotation instead of a 6s. Damage increase isnt worth it at that point imo. Plus this is tied in with holy shield now so you cant really miss a SoR for a Inquisition for damage increase or your HS will fall off, (that is unless you use 1 stack of holy power).

Kommentar von 631257

By Elorivan 17 days ago (Patch 4.0.1)
Both CS and HotR have a 3 second shared cool-down, which means 3 holy power will take ~9 seconds to generate.

Is it on the GCD? That would put it at 10.5 seconds before haste.

Kommentar von 578801

This makes for absolutely ridiculous crits in ICC at the moment. This does 120% of AP at three holy power. Vengeance gives you lots of AP, 10% of your max health to be exact. (Not counting the ICC health buff as far as I can tell. *sadpanda*) Coupled with the 30% damage buff, you're already past the 20k mark. Then if you want to get real fancy, go kill Festergut.

Get eight stacks, have your OT taunt, click off righteous fury if you're a pansy, and pop wings. Then fap at numbers no arcane mage would even dream about. (Highest I've had verified is 57k by the other tank in my guild, could go a lot higher obviously.)

Kommentar von Geles

For prot. pvp paladins if you want to make nice crits with shield of righteous then try out that: gather 3 holy power with crusader strike then strike judgement and wait for Sacred Duty to pop after that turn on Inquistion then Divine Plea+wings and trinket with str. if u got and u can crit really nasty. All is here shield of righteous is holy dmg, Inquisition will give u 30% incr. holy dmg also with the glyph shield of righteous (10% incr. dmg on Shield of Righteous) this can bring casters down really easy and in the arenas it will work great if u make it in the right way.

Kommentar von Won7on

Not sure why this is shown to be modified by Holy Shield. Does increasing your shield block value increase this spell's damage?

Kommentar von 833145

This has a new sound effect as of 4.3. It's awesome.

Kommentar von Teppop

on level 70 battleground, full brutal geared paladin twink 1shots most players with this ^^

Kommentar von 746315

Assuming a hit is not blocked while the buff is active, it emulates the 30% damage reduction of a block (4.3 values).
Assuming a hit is blocked while the buff is active, it is slightly better than a block with Holy Shield active (4.3 values).
Ultimately, prot paladins have gained the ability to "block" unblockable attacks (Ex: Madness Impale).
Unfortunately, the 3 second window could pose a challenge to effective usage. Then again, perhaps that is the point of "active mitigation".

Edit: Mastery currently increases the physical damage reduction effect: with 20% mastery, SotR reduces physical damage by 50%, instead of 30%.

Kommentar von LafinJack

I have the Divine Purpose talent , and when I get chains of SotRs the damage reduction duration DOES get extended by three seconds for each smash.

Kommentar von 319936

Bastion of Glory can be considered as the resources for Protection Paladin; one can have 5 stacks of Bastion of Glory max.
it generate by:

Schild der Rechtschaffenen (+1; reducing physical damage Paladin himself take by 30%)

when Paladin have stacks of Bastion of Glory, this spell can be cast to consume all stacks of Bastion of Glory:

Word of Glory (self healing increased by 10% for each stacks of Bastion of Glory consumed; not on GCD)

Kommentar von Nizarus

For any fellow Prot paladins out there needing the spell ID for the Damage reduction effect it is: 132403

Kommentar von 997771

Let us compare this to a Krieger's Schildblock.

When a Paladin or Warrior block a physical attack, the attack does 30% less damage.

When a Paladin has Schild der Rechtschaffenen up, all physical attacks do x% less damage (varies depending on mastery, but let's say about 30% less). And if the Paladin also blocks that attack, the damage it does is further reduced by 30%, which occurs at a rate equal to the Paladin's block chance.
When a Krieger has Schildblock up, all physical attacks are blocked doing 30% less damage, and the warrior has a chance equal to the warrior's block chance that the attack will be critically blocked, doing a further 30% less damage.

Schildblock and Schild der Rechtschaffenen work somewhat like mirror images of eachother, in other words the result is very similar. Physical attacks are either blocked or 'super-blocked'. However Paladin Mastery (Meisterschaft: Göttliches Bollwerk) increases the reduction value of the of the 'superblock' faster than it increases the liklihood of that superblock, whereas Warrior Mastery (Meisterschaft: Kritisches Blocken) increases the liklihood of a 'superblock' much faster than a Paladin's Mastery does, but without increasing its reduction value per se.

Also a Paladin's Mastery increases the Self Healing value of Word of Glory. and Schildblock lasts twice as long per cast than Schild der Rechtschaffenen.

Kommentar von rodalpho

The devs told us exactly how Prot Paladin abilities work in PvP at the link(s) below.

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/20747314610#2

I'm pasting it here as they typically delete the beta forums after release.

Avenger's Shield deals 50% damage in PvP
Shield of the Righteous deals 50% damage in PvP
Light of the Protector heals for 50% in PvP
Hand of the Protector heals for 50% in PvP

Kommentar von ginny

In Legion, the term “Active Mitigation” refers to a single, specific ability that a Tank must use as a “counter” to specific boss abilities.

These boss abilities are designated as “Mitigation Checks”. If you fail to use Active Mitigation against a Mitigation Check, you receive an additional negative side effect, e.g. being flung away by a boss (Dargrul of Neltharion's Lair) or the boss gaining a shield (Tirathon Saltheril in Vault of Wardens).

Here is a list of the Active Mitigation abilities for each Tank Specialization in Legion:

Guardian Druid - Ironfur
Protection Warrior - Shield Block
Protection Paladin - Shield of the Righteous
Vengeance Demon Hunter - Demon Spikes
Brewmaster Monk - Ironskin Brew
Blood Death Knight - Mastery: Blood Shield / Death Strike / Marrowrend

Note. Marrowrend grants Active Mitigation via a short Recently Used Death Strike buff. Bone Shield itself provides no Active Mitigation. Also, unlike all other Tank Specializations' Active Mitigation, Blood Death Knight's abilities are on the global cooldown table ("on the GCD") therefore cannot be used at any time.

Kommentar von Phasha

10.1 Edit

Want to reduce a keybind for your Prot Paladin? Here is the 10.1 version that macros Schild der Rechtschaffenen into Gesegneter Hammer (or Hammer der Rechtschaffenen):
#showtooltip Crusader Strike; Shield of the Righteous
/cast Shield of the Righteous
/cast Crusader Strike

Press the macro to cast Schild der Rechtschaffenen and Gesegneter Hammer (coded with Kreuzfahrerstoß), whichever available or both.
Prevents unintended Schild der Rechtschaffenen casts when out-of-combat, especially when you are building beans with Gesegneter Hammer.
While holding Alt, press the macro to forcefully cast Schild der Rechtschaffenen even if you are out-of-combat.
Automatically switch between Gesegneter Hammer or Hammer der Rechtschaffenen as your talents change.

The SotR first, BH second build helps solve the missing bean problem. Even if you are full with beans, this macro will unload 3 beans first with SotR. Therefore, you will not lose the bean from the BH cast.

Original comment

If you find Protection Paladins too keystroke-intensive (i.e. pressing your Schild der Rechtschaffenen keybind too many times every pull), here is a helpful macro:
#showtooltip Hammer of the Righteous; Shield of the Righteous
/cast Shield of the Righteous
/cast Hammer of the Righteous
Since Schild der Rechtschaffenen is currently (9.1.0) off GCD, this macro combines Schild der Rechtschaffenen and Hammer der Rechtschaffenen into one key. It will cast either or both of them as they are available. (You may press the Alt key to see the readiness and tooltip of Schild der Rechtschaffenen.)

This macro makes Prot Paladins' rotation much less clunky and much less keystroke demanding. It helps you enjoy a serene playstyle of the tank, like in the good ol' days.

Speaking of the macro's coding, putting the "/cast Shield of the Righteous" line above "/cast Hammer of the Righteous" solves the missing bean (Holy Power) problem. The missing bean problem occurs if "/cast Hammer of the Righteous" is above "/cast Shield of the Righteous" and you are using the macro when you are full on 5 beans. The first cast of Hammer der Rechtschaffenen will not grant you a bean because you are full, and Schild der Rechtschaffenen takes away 3 beans. With the macro here, Schild der Rechtschaffenen is the first to be cast, so Hammer der Rechtschaffenen will still grant you a bean as it should.

Kommentar von ZendaraThenebra

Here is the 10.1 version that macros Schild der Rechtschaffenen into Hammer der Rechtschaffenen:
#showtooltip Crusader Strike; Shield of the Righteous
/cast Shield of the Righteous
/cast Crusader Strike

Press the macro to cast Schild der Rechtschaffenen and Hammer der Rechtschaffenen , whichever available or both
Prevents unintended Schild der Rechtschaffenen casts when out-of-combat,
While holding Alt, press the macro to forcefully cast Schild der Rechtschaffenen even if you are out-of-combat.

The SotR first, BH second build helps solve the missing bean problem.

Nice! thank you :D

I experimented with so many macros /spell combos over time and yet missed this one? How could I….
I’m gonna test this but there is something about it that is confusing me a lot! So I was hoping you might can help me understand it…

The main thing confusing me is the way you use : when I read the macro, to me it feels like it's contradicting itself, I’m not saying it is, but as I've never used with key-modifier, it’s an unfamiliar way to use it (to me) and I don't quite get how it's meant to work and why use this form in the first place. I usually use in a very basic way, here a simple example to get you understand my low macro-IQ: all-in-one-button flasks macro
#showtooltip
/use item:191341
/use item:191332
/use item:191320

What I do NOT understand:
ISSUE #1: According to what you wrote in your post, the macro is meant to cast both spells together (if resource available, ofc), but I don't get how it does that, if I read this part:
/cast Shield of the Righteous
it's my understanding that this will cast Schild der Rechtschaffenen only when pressing Alt (if in combat), what am I missing?

What I do NOT understand
ISSUE #2: What is the difference between a macro as yours, using , compared to a macro with same function but using instead like the following version?
(written with considering SotR first / BH second build issue)
#showtooltip Shield of the Righteous; Crusader Strike
/cast Shield of the Righteous
/cast Crusader Strike

macro casts Schild der Rechtschaffenen (if resource available) and Hammer der Rechtschaffenen
preview icon shows Hammer der Rechtschaffenen even if it's not the first to cast
holding any modifier will show Schild der Rechtschaffenen instead (only for tooltip view, it does not affect the casts)

is there a benefit to it and why would you use the form in the first place? There is something I’m somehow missing to see/understand and its setting my brain on fire…
Smoking pixels…

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Schild der Rechtschaffenen

Schild der Rechtschaffenen

3 Heilige Kraft	Nahkampfreichweite

Sofort	1 sek. Abklingzeit

Heilig
Verpasst Gegnern vor Euch einen heftigen Schlag mit Eurem Schild, der (42.5% of Attack power) Heiligschaden verursacht und Eure Rüstung für 4.5 sec um (170 * $INT / 100) erhöht.

Vergeltung
Verpasst Gegnern vor Euch einen heftigen Schlag mit Eurem Schild, der (42.5% of Attack power) Heiligschaden verursacht und Eure Rüstung für 4.5 sec um (170 * Strength / 100) erhöht.

Schutz
Verpasst Gegnern vor Euch einen heftigen Schlag mit Eurem Schild, der (42.5% of Attack power) Heiligschaden verursacht und Eure Rüstung für 4.5 sec um (170 * Strength / 100) erhöht.

Schutz
Shield of the Righteous increases your Strength and Stamina by 2% for 10 sec, stacking up to 3.

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3 Heilige Kraft

Reichweite

5 Meter (Kampf)

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Sofort

Abklingzeit

1 sekunde

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0 sekunden

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School Damage (Heilig) (AP mod:0.425)
Radius: 6 Meter
PVP-Multiplikator: 1

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Trigger Spell with Value

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Trigger Spell with Value

	Lichtgeschmiedeter Segen

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Waffe nicht wegstecken
Initiiere Kampf (aktiviert Auto-Attack)
Benötige alle Ziele
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Keine Abklingzeit bei Tooltip
Aura zeigt auf Clienten
Gebietseffekte nutzen Zielradius
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