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Kommentar von 7322

This spell in TBC is MUCH better. In normal WoW it had 10 sec duration and didnt increase Spirit but it is not the main reason why this spell become better. The main reason i think is Circle of Healing. In Spirit of Redemption you can cast it 10-15 times. 10-15 Circles of Healing = 5000-7500 hp without any +healing items. But normal priest with good +healing gear can heal much more. So i think it is very good spell and ofcourse i will take it in TBC.

Kommentar von 9495

Since patch 2.0.1, Spirit of Redemption has been upgraded to give 5% spirit to the priest that invests in the talent as well as lasting 5 more seconds than it used to.

These five seconds are absolutely crucial and as someone who has used both, I can really feel the difference.

The only drawback is that while they seemed to have fixed it earlier, there is a bug that sometimes kick you to character select after dying a second time as a spirit of redemption. I thought they had fixed it, however since 2.0.1 it has happened to me a few times. I hope it has been just unlucky for me and not something that happens for everyone.

Kommentar von Bammbulance

Gief a similar skill like poulterguise (sp) for shadow spec :D When you die to take over the mind of the target that killed you :D

Anyway I loved this skill awesome in all cases of death, rocks in arena, as your primary target your friends can go all out while your being killed, if you cant survive then all they have done is given your group a full heal, but its one of those skills thats might be worth sacrificing for other skills which will mean you wont die, such as pain supression, damn hard choice.

Kommentar von Jackthesmack

Really funny in PVP, they target you but when you become a spirit you can spam heals like crazy and they have zero chance of killing whoever you're healing. I've healed a warrior through 7 people focus firing on him at once, until the redemption went away and he lost his healer.

Kommentar von radeox

Spirit of redemption:
Effect #1 Heal
Effect #2 Apply Aura: Water Breathing
Effect #3 Apply Aura: Shapeshift (32)

Kommentar von 55498

Could you actually Ressurect your self?

Kommentar von Rawbert

Unfortunately not.

Kommentar von sygobat

Can you ress others then?

Kommentar von 66513

I suspect so. You wouldn't be able to ressurect yourself since you're not quite DEAD yet, I think it counts as transformed.

Nothing says you can't ressurect someone else, as long as you are quick enough to start a spell that takes ten seconds to cast. And that you're not in battle, suggesting that you die LAST. >>

Kommentar von 11529

The buff reads:

Spirit of Redemption
You have become more powerful than anyone can possibly imagine.

((Yay Star Wars!))

Kommentar von 60162

this is a life saver in heroic, didnt start 25-man jet but when some cc go out off control or tank lose aggro in heroic and u die u can still heal your group,REALY healp me a LOT

Kommentar von 112377

Heh, no offense, but personally I hate this spell... I'm a feral druid, and in almost every other instance I run with a holy priest with this spell. Sure the healing at death is great, and it had saved my life a few times, but it also prevents me from using B-rez immediately...

When a pat or a runner goes out of control and the priest + the other 3 dps (or 2 dps and tank if I'm not tanking) are dead/dying and healer can't heal everyone fast enough I can't B-rez the priest for him/her to use as sort of a SS (wait until reset to click accept rez). It's a good spell, no doubt, but it has its weaknesses with B-rez

Kommentar von 129549

If you read what the buff says, it says "You have become more powerful then anyone can ever imagine."
This is a tribute to Star Wars, where when Darth Vader is about to be struck down by Luke, he says those words. This of coarse ties in with the spell because the spell is cast before you are killed.

Just a fun little thing Blizzard threw in.

Kommentar von 93865

You can use Stoneform in this form if you are a dwarf.

Also, if you were counterspelled or spelllocked in human form then died, the interrupt will carry over into SoR.

Kommentar von 93865

To elaborate on this Star Wars reference:

In the first Star Wars movie to be released, Episode IV: A New Hope, Obi-Wan Kenobi's last words were, to Darth Vader, "If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine." Vader hesitates, then cuts down the elderly Jedi, who immediately vanishes, leaving only his cloak. Obi-Wan leaves the physical world, but his spirit continues to communicate with and help the young Jedi, Luke Skywalker, occasionally appearing as a ghostly blue figure similar in appearance to the Spirit of Redemption.

Kommentar von 93865

You can accept summons in this form, as death removes you from combat yet you are still counted as alive while it is in effect. When you accept the summon you will be instantly rezzed.

Kommentar von 62635

hmm as far as i can tell it looks like you can in fact cast resurect, just not on yourself, since your corpse doesn't apear untill you're SOR buff drops, which is kind of a shame :P

Kommentar von 173846

this may be a stupid question, but can this ability be used in arena? i only ask because i know some battle ground friendly things arent allowed. if anyone has any list on abilities not allowed in arena, or a code for weather somthing will be allowed or not, that would be well apreceated.

Kommentar von 177169

Uh...Vavavavooom to answer you'r question I am not too sure you can or can't use it in Arena's but I have countered and killed many Priest's in the Arena's on my 70. And so far I have not seen this use yet in Arena's.

Sorry if I didnt really answer you'r question.

Kommentar von pibbz

With a glyph of Spirit of Redemption in WOTLK, this talent is really shining.

Glyph of Spirit of Redemption
All heals cast while Spirit of Redemption is active have a 20% chance to increase the remaining duration of Spirit of Redemption by 20 sec.

Looks like you can keep it up for quite a while with this glyph :)

Kommentar von 208857

When i run outta mana, and i have no mana pots or innervates avalible. I ask to die so i can heal for 15 sec. (and with my low health of 6543 i die very easy) This usually saves us all especially in ZA

Kommentar von 220601

Is there any hidden cooldown on this? Like, "Can only occur once every 5 minutes, etc. etc. Feel free to downrate after an answer has been given.

Kommentar von 93437

"the angel with the breasts is your sexual image reward for victory"

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2969688265&sid=1

Kommentar von DrSlump

I'm not sure if this is a bug or not, but in some cases if you die with a stun type debuff your spirit continues to be stunned and thus cannot heal. If the debuff lasts 20 seconds, you will not be able to do anything as it is longer than the duration of the spirit.

Kommentar von 137304

This spell procs ALOT

Kommentar von 233925

Also known as 'Improved Death'.

Kommentar von 340836

Not so mortal now, is she?

Kommentar von Abomb

It would be boss if u could use mana burn and mass dispel in this

Kommentar von 319099

I had to stop speccing into this because I found dying to be much more rewarding than trying >.< *drools*

Kommentar von mouseno4

If you die and decide to leave your random group whilst in this form, you skip the corpse run and teleport back to your pre-random instance position (even if you were flying high above the ground) - despite being technically dead.

Kommentar von bandit600

well at the end, this talent is a must or not?

Kommentar von 605016

According to Recount it critted to our holy-priest today. It healed 2 Points of life on him.

Kommentar von Liquids

This counts as a stance (stance 1).

Kommentar von Puremagic

This talent can be REALLY confusing in the start and i know... I hated it but very usefull in dungeons and arena

Kommentar von 367590

This ability seems almost useless in Cata for PvE. I mean the healers and the tanks should be the last ones to die. So you die, go into this state, and everyone else is already dead, how does that help? I guess its now purely a PvP talent, what a shame.

The animation for this skill is amazing. The skill itself should be much more useful to go along with it, like the ability to trigger this state without dying.

Kommentar von 476166

I won't deny the usefulness of 15 seconds of uninterrupted, free heals once the healer has died. In Cata heroics, this is going to save many in boss fights. Bandages, potions, and cooldowns should be saved until after the Priest's spirit is gone, at which point you're on your own.

My issue with this talent, however, is that it requires death. I die far less than anybody else in my groups/raids, since healers are crucial for a party to last as long as possible. It's because of the "death proc" being so darn rare that I skip this talent. There are situations where it could save the day, sure, but I'd much rather use that talent on something else that's not based on me failing to live; something that helps me keep everyone alive while I'm still alive.

Kommentar von PerfeCisolation

Not too any comments on the recent changed to this talent so thought I would address them.

This talent no longer gives a 5% spirit bonus kind of making this a really weak talent for raiding. Maybe in heroics but you really should not be dying that often. So a talent I would always find myself picking up I now pass over with little thought. Sad to see it go ='(

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Kommentar von KyorraWindblade

Out of mana entirely? Already blew your mana-regen cooldowns, and you just cant regenerate enough mana to cast, well, anything useful?

Die.

15 (21 glyphed) seconds of uninterrupted, free heals might mean the difference between a wipe, or a kill. Your sacrifice might save everything. This is one point in the talent tree you really can't put anywhere really useful, anyway, might aswell make use of it as a decision, rather than a mistake.

Kommentar von 542644

Can be Archangel activated while the priest is under Spirit of Redemption?

Kommentar von Teldarsterallnes

There should be a shadow equivalent of this.

Spirit of Downfall
Upon death you become the spirit of downfall,you cannot cast or be attacked or targeted. Your movement speed is incresed by 300%, and you melee attack power is incresed by 1200%. lasts for 20 seconds

graphic:http://www.peninsulawyer.com/storage/post-images/2503434292_032ae9dea1.jpg

Dr who ftw

Kommentar von 209291

Maybe someone can answer this for me?

My roommate is complaining that SoR cannot be removed while he is still in combat, so he must wait the entirety of the SoR to be able to commence his corpse run. True or False?

Kommentar von seahen

Does this delay the boss reset after a wipe? Because I've had several close dungeon and raid wipes where a healer was the last to die, and where a few extra seconds to run the dots down would probably have turned the tide.

Kommentar von Scoops

Something interesting happened with this the other day. Somebody did a mass summon just inside Firelands (in the instance), without accepting or canceling the summon I zoned out where there was a bunch of Alliance that promptly killed me. When I died I noticed that I still had the summon dialogue box in Spirit of Redemption form and accepted the summon. Lo and behold I appeared inside the instance alive.

Kommentar von 37923

Fun use of this spell... If you manage to be the last person in your group/party to die, you can immediately cast Mass Resurrection to save the group a walk back... Just pray someone returns the favor after the Spirit fades. ;)

Kommentar von 206395

It is possible to cast Mass Resurrection while in Spirit of Redemption, provided that you are out of combat.

Kommentar von 108243

I am actually finding SoR a useful talent while my guild is on progression on heroic Rhyolith and Beth'tilac. The main challenge in both those fights is an insane final 15-20 seconds of increasing AOE raid damage. It's all about burst AOE healing from the entire healing team being able to keep the raid up for an additional ten seconds or so while everyone is on the borderline of being dead, at a time when healer mana is stressed. SoR is pretty darn sweet to have in that situation.

Kommentar von 912859

Dying from fall damage does not trigger Spirit of Redemption.
Killing a Priest with Spirit of Redemption does not count as a killing blow in player statistics.
Killing a Priest with Spirit of Redemption active does not track properly in the BG or Arena score window.
During battlegrounds it is possible for Spirit of Redemption to end prematurely when clicking on a flag as Spirit of Redemption procs.

All four of these are known issues as noted in the 4.3.0 Known Issues post on the World of Warcraft Bug Report forum.

Kommentar von guatafu

..so then you turn from a burly bull to a delicate femenine angel with breasts.

Kommentar von 1026135

Very annoying when questing solo. There was a reason I didn't have this before the patch and I really wish there was a way to turn it off or to just not have it all.

Kommentar von oscarucb

This spellid is the talent.

The actual buff spell you gain upon death is here: Spirit of Redemption

Kommentar von Perothvius

We need a Naaru glyph for this.

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