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Kommentar von Refticus

so we have learned that mannoroth is still alive, or as alive as we're going to see him now

Kommentar von Silhac

The doom lord in question comes from the curse of the legion that is active in phase 1 of the encounter being removed/falling off naturally. This debuff is activated by the Fel Iron Summoner at the RED Fel Spire (the other two being the Purple, which spawns imps, and the green, which spawns infernals). The best course of action is to kill the red spire add right away to only have to spawn the one doom lord which must remain alive until the final phase of the encounter at 35% health remaining on Mannoroth. You can ONLY get the doom lord in phase 1 from the red spire add as Gul'dan destroys the spire going into phase 2 (unless doing the fight on mythic, but you'd not want to be doing this achievement during the mythic fight)

Given that the doom lord has the Mark of Doom ability on it, all raid members will need to watch for it as they must take some damage when they receive it to make it explode on them (letting it expire naturally is an insta-kill). The easiest, but most healing intensive, way to let this happen is to let one of the Shadowbolt Volleys from the doom lord go off on the raid, detonating all of the marks at the same time (do not be stacked up when this happens). Another way to do this up until 35% is to run into the fire of an infernal, as infernals will be part of the encounter as well until the final phase. This lessens the burden on the rest of the raid and likely ensures you won't be blowing up on anyone else.

When you get to the last phase, the order of abilities that you'll likely see is the cast of Empowered Fel Hellstorm, then Shadowforce/Gaze, and lastly after some tank combos, the Fel Hellseeker will come out. If your raid is mostly stacked, this should be predictable in where it lands. The doom lord will need to be at sufficiently low health that the damage from the three bursts of the hellseeker (by having whichever tank is holding it move into the circles intentionally) will be the killing blow on the doom lord. Once this happens, it's safe to kill the boss (but have the achievement tracked as it will likely change colors when it is met)

Kommentar von Rekka

One of the more challenging achievements for this raid. Plan to bring 3 tanks. You want the doomlord away from the raid to avoid cleave and he will generally deal more dmg than mannoroth to the tank so you'll need a dedicated healer.

Doom Spike will fall off several times during the fight for substantial dmg so a monk tank is recommended. Raid needs to be careful about stacking and there will be a bit more dmg overall since you're unlikely to interrupt all the shadowbolt volleys.
You can tank swap on the Doom Lord as well.. Just run over and taunt the doomlord after the massive blast combo.
You will probably need to be a little more careful about dmg on the add if you do so.

The Empowered Fel Seeker occurs after the first fear in the final phase. It does 230-250k dmg to the Doom Lord per hit. So the add needs to be quite low.

Other than controlling your cleave (spreading dots when you move him in for the fel seeker is a very real concern) and making sure you actually kill the boss (i.e. still burn hard entering the final phase)that covers the major hurdles for this achievement.

Kommentar von Mentos45

Though not a dk, I believe that a blood dk should be able to use their ams to completely negate damage from the doom spike, which would make this achievement much easier. They would just need to ensure that the spike falls off during the ams.

Kommentar von 24toten

1. Leave the summoner at the red crystal alone until one person gets the debuff from curse of legion. When curse of Legion is dispelled or goes away, a Doom Guard spawns. Then kill the summoner.
2. Have one tank take the doom guard away from everything else and take it down to about 5% hp.
3. Have another tank on Mannoroc and burn him down to 35%.
4. During P3 Mannoroc uses Empowered Fel Seeker (green waves). Have tank with doom guard chill by Mannoroc until its killed from this ability.

Easy peasy in Legion. You don't really need two tanks for this, but it simplifies it further.

Kommentar von dieselh

i am trying to solo this, but when in phase 2 he destroys the column, i dont know how to avoid getting jumped off the platform. any help?

Kommentar von Roguezs

To anyone having issues attempting to solo this achievement.

A doing this in Normal difficulty with a tank makes it considerably easier.

Ignore the red spire add in the first phase. Kill the other 2 until you have the doomlord popped.
After that ignore the doomlord completely and single target Mannoroth down until he reaches his third phase. Standing with your back against the spires negates the knockback..

Upon reaching the third phase, just wait out the felseeker. Stand with the Doomlord in the felseeker and watch him perish.
Note: The felseeker does about 150k dmg/landing. So dps the Doomlord down to ~400k to save you the trouble of waiting out 2 felseekers.

Kommentar von Sectimus

This achi seems bugged in the bfa pre-patch, he takes no damage from felseeker.

Kommentar von Volleynova

Easy Solo w/Pet Achievement for Level 120 Battle for Azeroth and beyond...

1. Normal Difficulty

2. Before fight, once you get up to the upper portion, kill the two adds EXCEPT for the one standing by the RED spire.

3. You'll notice this add puts a debuff on you that spawns a Doom Lord. Let the Doom Lord spawn and then kill the red spire add.

4. Aggro Doom Lord with your pet, do not kill the Doom Lord.

5. Attack Mannoroth. Bring him down to 30% or so. Make sure your pet has aggro.

6. Keep Doom Lord and Mannoroth on the pet and let them duke it out in the corner somewhere. Do not attack Mannoroth.

7. Stay near the middle and keep your target on the Doom Lord. As the battle continues, the Doom Lord will slowly lose health to Empowered Felseeker which comes from Mannoroth.

8. Once the Doom Lord has died to Empowered Felseeker, nuke Mannoroth.

9. ?

10. Profit. Achievement Completed.

Kommentar von sadistic12345

before he casts felseeker you die because he knocked you off the platform
do the achivement with a demon hunter or something

Kommentar von ikickass

As of 8.2.5 I was able to solo this as 435 ilvl Frost Mage. I wanna point out from the start that it took couple of tries for the 'stars to align'. Let's not linger anymore and jump straight to the guide:

1. Dismissed my Water Elemental
2. Started the encounter by aggroing/attacking any of the 3 Summoners. You can pick whichever, I went for the guy sitting in front of the Red Spire. It doesn't matter which one you pick, they all die 3s after you hit the first one.
3. Wait on the roleplay and for Mannoroth to be summoned.
4. Pop Icy Veins and start dps-ing him until around 35% hp.
4.a. Make sure you have no DoT effects items equipped and don't cast spells as such.
5. Wait for the curse debuff (Legion smth, I can't remember) to be cast on you. By the time Mannoroth's hp is around 35% DISPEL YOURSELF (Remove Curse). You should have plenty of time to bring him down to 35% until the debuff wears off by itself.
Now comes the trickiest part:
6. Start melee-ing the Doom Lord until about 10% (5% would be best case scenario but it's risky).
7. Carefully watch what spell Mannoroth is about to cast and dodge it so you don't get thrown off the platform. (You can use Ice Block against the pushback channeling spell) and you can Shimmer/Blink after he casts the knockback spell (notice the purple waves going from inside-out the center of the platform).
8. Wait for him to cast the Felseeker spell and position the Doom Lord on the target area. Doom Lord gets killed (mine was at 15-25% hp left and died in one shot).
9. Nuke Mannoroth.

Kommentar von Hii488

If you're struggling with getting thrown off, position yourself between Mannaroth and the purple spire. This one is seemingly never destroyed (or at least it takes longer than the fight).
Overview of the fight:

If on Mythic: Attack any mob to start the Mannaroth phase, you do not need to kill them.
If on normal/hc: Kill the purple and green fel summoners, wait until the red one casts the Fluch der Legion debuff on you, then kill the summoner.
Run to a spot between the purple spire and Mannaroth
If on Mythic wait until you have Fluch der Legion cast on you before nuking
Once you have the debuff, either dispell it or wait until it runs out to summon the Doom Lord. You can DPS while waiting.
Take the Doom Lord to low health, but make sure not to kill it. This isn't necessary but will probably speed it up.
DPS Mannaroth to below 30% to activate phase 3. Only in this phase can the doom lord summoned by the debuff be killed by Mannaroth
If you get knocked around make sure to run back to the spot between Mannaroth and the purple spire.
Wait until Mannaroth kills the doom lord. If this has happened and you are tracking the achievement in your sidebar, the text should turn from red to white.
Kill him!

If you fail, just jump off, it's easy enough to try again!

Kommentar von projecteulogy

This has to be bugged. Got the doom lord to 18%. Got to P3 @ 39% DBM Tells me i'm in P3. Not P2 or P4 but P3. Nothing is triggering P4. He refuses to cast empowered anything like he's supposed to. Bored with BFA so i wanted to get Achs i was missing. Fairly fed up with this BS after an hour of constantly resetting. Screw this.

Kommentar von Hemingray

Be sure to take off your Heart of Azeroth necklace if you're wearing it. The DoT effects from my azerite gear kept killing the Doom Lord. Once I took off the necklace it was easy (just follow the other recent guides here).

Kommentar von jjanchan

I soloed this achievement after a bunch of attempts in Battle for Azeroth, and I thought I'd make a quick rundown with some accurate information and tips. Some of the information posted is a bit inaccurate and I thought I'd clear it up.

First off, this achievement can be tracked by using "Shift + Click" on it within the Achievement interface (thereafter it will show on the right). The text on the achievement will remain red until the requirement has been met midfight (i.e. the Verdammnislord has been killed with Verstärkter Teufelssucher). After the text turns white, indicating that requirements are met, you can safely kill the boss to get the achievement.
Soloing this at level 120, there are no abilities that can kill you other than the knockbacks that knock you off the edge! For this reason it's worthwhile to know a little bit about the fight. If you know the fight already, you can skip down to "Tips".

The caveat to this is Mal der Verdammnis ability which will instantly kill you if you avoid taking any damage before it expires! Once again, while soloing this, you are always taking some light damage so it's not a problem, but if you bring a friend (or friends) make sure they are taking some damage (the one time it's important to stand in bad stuff).

Details of the fight:

Phase 1 of the fight is where there are 3 channeling Fel Iron Summoners with different abilities. The important summoner is the one standing in front of the Red Spire - it will cast Fluch der Legion. This curse, when dispelled or naturally expiring, will spawn the Verdammnislord add that needs to be killed by Verstärkter Teufelssucher for the achievement.

You need to kill the other Fel Iron Summoners and wait to kill the one in front of the Red Spire until the Fluch der Legion has been cast; after you have that debuff, you can safely kill the summoner.

Phase 2 starts when all 3 Fel Iron Summoners are dead. This is what spawns Mannoroth himself.

Phase 3 is starts when Mannoroth gets to 65% health, and continues until he hits 35% health.

Before Phase 4 of the fight, Mannoroth will cast a few abilities that knock you back:

Massive Explosion, which just knocks you back quite far.
Mannoroths Blick, which fears you away from Mannoroth.
Teufelssucher, which are green circles on the ground that get progressively bigger and knock you back if you stand in them.
Schattenmacht (only in Phase 3), that channels a purple line from Mannoroth to you, pushing you away from him towards the edge of the platform. This ability gets progressively stronger in effect the longer it is channeled.
Before Phase 4, all of the above abilities can be largely ignored if you stand in front of the Purple Spire. You will simply get pushed into the pillar and avoid getting knocked off.

Phase 4 starts at 35% health and lower, and this is the phase which you want to get the boss to in order to trigger the all-important Verstärkter Teufelssucher ability.

Note that prior to Phase 4, the boss will cast Teufelssucher which is NOT what you need for the achievement. Only in Phase 4 does this ability become empowered.
In Phase 4, ALL of the pillars have been destroyed, so you can no longer use them to prevent falling off the edge. You need to watch your positioning carefully to ensure this doesn't happen.
It will take some time in Phase 4 for the boss to cast Verstärkter Teufelssucher, and you need to deal with the boss abilities before that happens.
The boss abilities in this phase are all simply empowered versions of his previous abilities. In my experience, the boss cast these in roughly the following order: Verstärkter teuflischer Höllensturm > Verstärkter Glevenstoß > Mächtige massive Explosion > Verstärkter Glevenstoß > Mannoroths verstärkter Blick > Verstärkte Schattenmacht > Verstärkter Glevenstoß > Mächtige massive Explosion > Verstärkter Glevenstoß > Verstärkter Teufelssucher
The important abilities to deal with are listed below:

Mächtige massive Explosion knocks you back quite far like the regular version, but also spawns 3 waves (center, left and right) that move outwards from the boss. You need to ensure you are close to one edge of the platform with the boss facing the center so you are knocked towards the center, AND you need to avoid the waves after you land so you don't get knocked back a second time!
Mannoroths verstärkter Blick fears you for a few seconds towards the edge of the platform. As long as you are not too close to the edge, you shouldn't fall off from this. Note that once this expires you drop a pool of Starrende Schatten on the ground, which slows movement and can be useful for Verstärkte Schattenmacht.
Verstärkte Schattenmacht works the exact same way as the regular version, with a purple line that the bosses channels to you - it pushes you away from the boss and builds in intensity as the channel continues. You want to make sure you start close to the boss at one side of the platform for this, as it will likely push you almost all the way across by the time it is done. As mentioned above, being pushed into a Verstärkte Schattenmacht pool will slow you down and help keep you from being pushed off.
Verstärkter Teufelssucher is the ability you need to kite the Verdammnislord into so it gets hit. It starts as a small green circle on the ground, followed by a medium green circle, followed by a large green circle. This ability also knocks you back a bit, so make sure you are not too close to the edge when this happens!

Tips

If your class/race has any movement abilities, these can help you in a pinch with the various knockback mechanics. These may include (but are not limited to) Raketensprung, Rückzug, Teufelsrausch, Blinzeln, Heldenhafter Sprung, etc. If they have a longer cooldown, it's worthwhile saving them for a particularly troublesome mechanic.
Eisblock as a Mage will root you in place during Verstärkte Schattenmacht.
Speed increases help during Verstärkte Schattenmacht (e.g. Sprinten, Spurt, Nitrobooster, Göttliches Ross, etc.) while you are running towards the boss against the push.
Verstärkte Schattenmacht pools on the ground (dropped after the Mannoroths verstärkter Blick fear ability) slow your movement speed and can be helpful to prevent you from being pushed too far by Verstärkte Schattenmacht.
I didn't have to damage the Verdammnislord at all prior to it being killed by Verstärkter Teufelssucher. Note that this ability does raid wide damage (even if not in the circle) so if the add gets hit by at least one circle, the other two should finish him off from splash damage (which is greater the closer you are to the circle on the ground). If you are having trouble with it not dying, you may need to carefully whittle it down with weak abilities (e.g. meleeing as a caster) to get it low enough. This can be very tricky at 120 given how much damage you do.
It is advised you dismiss all pets to avoid accidental damage to Mannoroth and the add.
You should remove your Herz von Azeroth to avoid inadvertent splash damage and procs.
Check your trinkets, Corrupted gear and talents for anything that would deal uncontrolled damage and remove them. Widerhallende Leere, Unendliche Sterne and Entstellte Gliedmaße are some example of offenders.
As noted above, positioning is very important! If you are having trouble, you may need to practice positioning prior to each boss ability to make sure you remain on the platform after knockbacks/pushbacks.
I found Heroic difficulty was what worked for me, as the boss and adds had more health to fine tune damage to them. Remember that you need Mannoroth below 35% health to get him to do the Verstärkter Teufelssucher ability.
If doing this on Mythic Difficulty, there are some slight differences:

Phase 1 is "skipped", make this in essence a 3-stage fight. The phases are still numbered 1-4, but in Phase 1 Gul'dan instantly kills all of the Fel Iron Summoners.
In Mythic difficulty, Fluch der Legion will automatically be applied to you during Phase 2 or Phase 3. For this reason, you need to wait until it is cast on to you before bringing the boss below 35%.
Note that if you slowly DPS the boss to 35%, it's possible to have multiple Fluch der Legion debuffs applied to you, and multiple Verdammnislords spawn. This can potentially be useful to give you a greater chance to succeed at the achievement. Only one Verdammnislord needs to die from Verstärkter Teufelssucher to get you the achievement.

Kommentar von Zhamant

It's still kind of pain to solo in Mythic, but possible. Retri paladin solo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_RcHjKftjs

Kommentar von Alucarde

I just got this achievement today on Mythic HFC as a solo Frost DK.

For some reason, the purple spire was not destroyed. Therefore, this allowed me to face my back towards it and cheese the push mechanics.

1. Start the fight by attacking the summoner.
2. Pace yourself and push Mannoroth down to less than 35%. Ensure you have the Fluch der Legion debuff on you. When the debuff drops off, a named Doom Lord will spawn. Keep this add alive.
3. Back face the purple spire.
4. With Mannoroth at less than 35%, he will be in phase 4. Make sure to aim all the Verstärkter Teufelssucher at the Doom Lord. It took about 3-4 Verstärkter Teufelssucher to down the add.

Note that you can track the achievement. When it turns from red to white, it means you met the criteria of the achievement.

Good luck everyone.

Kommentar von biggaz13

May as well add my 2 cents worth. Lots of valuable comments below.

1. 3 summoners. Leave the Red one (colour on top of the spire) until last as he is the one who will give you the debuff. Seconds into the fight I may add.
2. When he hits you with the debuff kill him as well.
3. After about 10 seconds the Doom Lord will spawn from your debuff!
4. I burned him down to about 30% thus in the last phase he is much easier to be killed by the Felseeker. I don't know how that worked but I did not DPS him in anyway after that. I waited until he died by other means.
5. Burn Mannoroth down to about 30% (seconds after stage 4). Both were up at the same time
6. Now comes the fun part. Try to stay on the ledge for as long as possible. There is talk of a spire remaining for you to fall back on. Never for me. I tried to keep in the middle part so I had more time to react to being pushed off.
7. I just kept running around and eventually the Felseeker stuff will hit your damaged Doom Lord and he will die. My Achievement on the right went from Red to White.
8. Burn Manneroth

Took about 5 tries as I just kept getting knocked off the ledge.
Soloed as a shadow priest 202. Body & Soul as 2nd Talent for the speed boost. You will need it.
Normal raid. I just wanted the Achievement

Kommentar von schnizol

Oddly enough, even at lvl 60, if you do this on mythic diff, his abilities can actually still one shot you lol

Kommentar von bratmonkey

HOW TO DO THIS ACHIEVEMENT THE EASY WAY:

Take off all your armor and weapon(s) so you don't kill the Doom Lord outright.

Stand in the sweet spot of the purple pillar. This will protect you from all knockbacks. Your whole fight/achievement will take place standing in the sweet spot at purple pillar.

Punch the Doom Lord down to about 30% health when he spawns.

Punch Mannoroth down to 30% to get him to last phase.

Keep standing in the sweet spot at purple pillar. Wait for Mannoroth to kill the Doom Lord with Empowered Felseeker.

When achievement goes from red text to white text, the criteria has been met and finish Mannoroth.

Congratulations.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vV3VPzHIq2M

Kommentar von madmurdock

Dunno how the pillar stuff works, but ~~Nightfae~~ Hunter is a good way to solo this:

- drop your gear besides bow
- there are 3 guys. kill the left guy and the guy in the back. youll get the debuff
- wait for the debuff to run out, the new guy spawns and kill the last guy from the beginning
- put bow in bag, and punch the new spawned guy twice, hell be around 27%. dunno how this works in further addons
- equip bow and bring Manno down below 30%, target yourself to not accidently attack either of the mobs.
- now stand in the middle and wait for the boss to kill the add, after this kill the boss

The boss has knock back skills, but you have either Rückzug or ~~Seelengestalt~~ to counter this.

Edit: They removed all Shadowland abilities.

Kommentar von Mikiti

I was able to do this after few tries with feral druid, no gear on, you cant hit the Doom Lord at all, since now he is lvl 40 and will die instantly no matter what you use. After Mannoroth spawns I used wrath to bring him under 30%, and now you have to survive (by not getting pushed off), and when he uses Empowered Felseeker, it does AOE damage around you so try to stand on the Doom Lord so he gets damaged, it did around 35% per hit, so you need to hit him with all 3 hits.

Kommentar von Adversatius

I did it in 1 min 50 sek on Mythic:
unequiped everything
pull him till you have "Mark of Doom" (this spawns the Doomlord)
i autoattacked the doomlord twice wich got him to 22 % and got mannoroth under 30 %
then i ran to one of the spires and simply waited there until the doom lord gets killed by "empowered Felseeker" ( you can track achievment with Shift-Click and it will change from red to white as soon as the doom lord dies)
equip weapon or just kill mannoroth quickly, gz!

Kommentar von TheQuasars

If your autoattacks are still one shotting the Doom Lord even with everything unequipped, use the Whole Body Shrinka before pull, weaken the Doom Lord while tiny, then right-click cancel the buff to continue.

Kommentar von Volkai

Expansion: Dragonflight
Patch: 10.2.5
Solo: Yes
Class: Any
Difficulty: Any (I achieved this on Mythic)

Strategy:

1. There is one add at each spire prior to the boss spawning.
2. Kill the two adds, except for the one at the red spire. This will place a curse on you which will spawn a doom lord.
3. Wait for doom lord to spawn.

4. Get the doom lord down to as low HP as possible without killing it yourself. I got mine down to 4% with 3 melee attacks. But you can honestly keep it at 100%, it will just require you to engage in the boss mechanics for longer.

5. Get the boss to under 30% HP (to trigger phase 4)

6. Place your back against one of the remaining spires so you don't get knocked back (at times you will get knocked back, it's not perfect).

7. Wait for the add to die by the AoE from the boss.

8. Soon as the Doom Lord dies, kill the boss immediately.

With this strategy I completed the encounter in 2 minutes and 32 seconds.

Kommentar von Dedmmeett

Finally got around to doing this with a 70 stripped down unholy DK on heroic. Normal they were a little too squishy and Mythic had a insta-kill mechanic that seems to be tripping me up.
In case you're unfamiliar- Down the guys by the green and purple tower together, get the doom lord to appear, and kill red tower guy.
I did not soften up the doom lord because even stripped down was too strong and ghoul would one shot. we both slapped Mann down to ~27% and stood by purple tower but...
Funny thing, all three towers were gone so I was thinking it was a wipe but I stayed in the center and Deaths Advance kept me on the platform no prob.
It only took two Manneroth cycles(with the Felseeker ability or whatever) and the doom lord was down and cheev tracker turned white,
Equipped weapon for a two shot kill of Mannoroth and I got a nice shiny green wolf mount now.

All Hellfire Raider achievements are indeed soloable one account, FYI.

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