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Kommentar von Archeus9

No, not again. Please.

Kommentar von Shaila1

Please everyone: Help to show Blizzard that we don't want achievements like this one anymore. They suck!

Kommentar von Palisis

No. Not like this... not like this... * dies *

Kommentar von Tennou893

Why do Blizzard keep doing this? It's just like the &*!@ing mission tables.. (sorry the language) WHY do they keep adding content that we disgust and hate with the fire of a thousand suns. Im serious about using this word .. It's STUPID. Everyone knows that archeology is utter garbage why do Blizzard intent to make it worse? We've hated your Pristines since MoP, and we have NOT changed our mind! Please read any comment section or ATLEAST read YOUR official wow forum. There are TONS of threads about people complaining about current state of archeology(NOT ONLY PRISTINES). And there are TONS of threads with great ideas to make this proffesion more enjoyable/less suffering.. Please use them.
I seriously hope that if Blizzard do intend to add Pristines in Legion, farming them will be a completely new sytem. Like obtaining them throughout quests or something. What we as players want is not the proffesion to be less grindy.. Just less RNG! Make obtaning pristines a progressive journey.
i.e collect 10 common artifact to create one pristine.
ANYTHING else than how we're currently farming them p l e a s e

To understand blizzard logic about mission tables/pristines read below

Us: WE HATE MISSION TABLES!
Blizzard: Okay okay.. Here have naval missions
Us: NO PLZ NO MORE!
Blizzard: Okay we made a mistake in WOD no more missions tables .. JK one last in Legion:
Us: N000000000000000000000000

Kommentar von Iceymilkey

This is just horrible.

Kommentar von Nalikulji

For the love of all that is holy, AT LEAST give some form of reward this time around.

Kommentar von Vagiulis

Can't they at least add a reward for these kind of achievements? They are a brutal grind. The MoP version awards you with the Seeker of Knowledge title. It is something to look forward to and keeps you motivated. This and the WoD one offer nothing in return.

Thanks, but no thanks.

Kommentar von MoreFish

It's worth noting that this achievement isn't quite as brutal as its predecessors. Although there are 15 pristines to collect, there are only 5 per race, which means that it's a combined achievement for getting 5 pristines from each race rather than 15 from a single race (or, say, 19... which would be absolutely horrific... right?). Because we can target our attempts to a particular race, it reduces the expected number of solves from about 480 down to about 330... well short of the 1130 expected solves to get the Draenor meta.

It's still an unrewarding, mind-numbing grind... but at least it's not as bad as it was. What I really don't get it why it's not an account-wide achievement. It has no reward, and actively discourages people from doing archaeology seriously on more than one character.

* For the math nerds, this achievement is basically the Coupon Collector's problem. For the computer science nerds, this is an actual real-life example of nlogn scaling. So there's that.

Kommentar von Roddox

Mother#$%^ers have done it again! this achievement is worse than the Sharknado movies.

Kommentar von DawnArchitect

When you solve a particular archaeology project, there is only a probability of getting the pristine version. From my observations this probability is about 0.2, but feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

While expectation is a good metric of a distribution, percentiles tend to warm an archaeologist's heart more, as they show how many solves you must do to get this achievement with a high degree of probability. With that in mind, and adding the mentioned pristine probability to the mix, you'll find all the pristines for a specific race with 153 solves with a probability of 99%. Thus the meta can be completed with the same probability in under 459 solves.

Even this rather pessimistic metric is WAY, WAY better than it was for Pandaria and Warlords, although it is somewhat offset by the solves requiring 100+ fragments.

As a side note, if Blizzard could add a consumable for a Restauriertes Artefakt to switch a current common archaeology project for a race to a random one, that would ease a lot of pain. Oh, sweet dreams...

Kommentar von Laeleiweyn

There's a rotation of two weeks for specific archaeology digsites in specific zones. For example, if you're missing demonic pristines, you'll have to wait until demonic digsites are up in either Azsuna, Stormheim, Suramar or Val'sharah.

Demonic Archaeology - Azsuna, Stormheim, Suramar or Val'sharah:

Highborne Archaeology - Azsuna, Suramar or Val'sharah:

Highmountain Tauren Archaeology - Highmountain:

Kommentar von Qoko

I made a calculation on Kein Stein auf dem anderen gelassen that whilst going for all pristines you may be better off just solving without keystones, due to the massive requirement of the linked achievement.

Kommentar von WebGremlin

These other guys are not exaggerating; I levelled from 1 to 800 in Suramar and in that time only completed 2 pristine artifacts.

Kommentar von Perple

I had a hard time looking up when I could farm pristine for a particular race. I guess you can mostly tell by quest/reward description. Here's a table anyway.

Week	Starting Quest	Reward	Race
Week 0 (Brann)	Teil um Teil	Kristallines Auge von Undravius	Demonic
Week 2	Hilfe für die Archäologische Akademie	Sternenleuchtfeuer	Highborne
Week 4	Die Geschichte des Hochbergs	Rethus Speer	Highmountain Tauren
Week 6	Ihr Gewicht in Gold	Kronjuwelen von Suramar	Highborne
Week 8 (Brann)	Fragmente der Fjorde	Wichtelgenerator	Demonic
Week 10	Goblinarchäologie	Schlüssel von Kalyndras	Highborne
Week 12 (Brann)	Vom Regen...	Wyrmi Schleck	Demonic
Week 14	Unaussprechliche Macht	Dunkler Splitter von Sciallax (e.g.)	Highborne
Week 16	Eine neue Spur	Siegsteinkehlband	Highmountain Tauren
Week 18 (Brann)	Ein Schritt näher	Blut des jungen Mannoroth	Demonic
Week 20	Akademische Erkundungen	Schlüssel zur Akademie von Nar'thalas	Highborne
Week 22 (Brann)	Teuflische Fragmente	Die purpurnen Hügel Eredaths	Demonic
Week 24	Auf dem rechten Pfad	Geist von Eche'ro	Highmountain Tauren

Kommentar von ladynagini

For those curious: You can obtain Pristine items from archeology while in a raidgroup. I just got one while doing archeology while waiting for an RBG team to fill. You cannot, however, complete the quest to place the item in the dalaran shop while in a raidgroup.

Kommentar von anbuhq

Those who say this achievement is a long grind and hard have never done MOP's or WOD's achievements. This one is walk in a park compared to those two.

Kommentar von mykroar

38 solves for Pristine Hand-Smoothed Pyrestone. Grrrrrrrrr.

Kommentar von Leis

missing 3 pristines from highmountain during their weeks (19 februar).

obtained the pristine hook, and kept looking for the other two (stone and bow), whilst beeing on the quest to turn in the pristine hook, in order to confirm/discard the theory of being able to obtain another pristine whilst on the quest for one.

so far i managed to grab the 500 bone fragments for the mount and completing:
4 rollers
3 stones
6 bows
8 hooks
4 drums
and atleast 5 others i created into crates.

so far not another pristine.

will continue research and update.

update:

ran the highmountain and demonic bi-weeklys.

solved the following without poppin either stone bow, or the imp cup i needed.

1 malformed abyssal
1 houndstooth hauberk
2 orb of inner chaos
2 flayed skin chronicles
4 imps cup (missing pristine)
11 moosebone fish hook (pristine i had in inventory)
9 trailhead drums
10 drogbar gemrollers
13 stonewood bows (missing pristine)
5 hand smoothed pyrestones (missing pristine)

total 58

asked a friendly GM, his reply wasn't i direct answer to the mechanics, but his reply was clear:

if you get a pristine - hand it in

reply was

"bla bla formalities

it is best to turn in the quest, because it will give you a better chance for a new one to pop up"

as side note he even topped it with a joke: how do you get a dwarfs on your roof? you tell em drinks are on the house XD

happy hunting lads and lasses

Kommentar von Skildar

19 drums
14 rollers
13 bows
14 hooks
4 stones
...
Something's not quite right here...

Kommentar von corroc

12 Orb of inner chaos
16 Imp's Cup
11 Flayed-Skin chronicle
18 Malformed Abyssal
6 Houndstooth Hauberk

Guess what I'm missing as my last pristine for this?

Highborne was easiest for me with total of 35 solves.
Highmountain was 85 solves.

Update.

Just finished it.

Took me 108 demonic solves in the end.At one point I solved Houndstooth Harberk 4 times in row without getting it.That is 680 fragments.

Kommentar von Trabuco

So I have only the Violetglass Vessel to complete this achievement. Decided to go for it this morning and after 35 digsites I got the following:

9 Inert Leystone Charm
7 Nobleman's Letter Opener
9 Pre-War Highborne Tapestry
7 Quietvine Vial
2 Violetglass Vessel

Obviously no pristine. Either RNG is screwing with me or the game knows I have only the violetglass left and it hates me...

Anyway, I'm pissed

Kommentar von Hellstryke

For anybody looking for some up to date info on this achieve; I have been missing one pristine for a few months now and this past week, with Demonic digsites being up, I decided to try for it to cross it off. I've spent around 20 HOURS this past week doing arch and I am STILL missing the damned thing. I need the Pristine Orb of Inner Chaos which requires 140 fragments. In the past week, I have solved the following;

Houndstooth Hauberk - 23
Flayed-Skin Chronicle - 15
Orb of Inner Chaos - 17
Malformed Abyssal - 11
Imp's Cup - 15

Now, Houndstooth Hauberk is a whopping 170 fragments, and as you can see, good ol' RNG has blessed me with more of them than ANY other item - 23. That's 3,910 fragments on those stupid things alone, and even more infuriating, it happened THREE times that I had to do three Hauberk's in a row! My 17 failed attempts at Orb of Inner Chaos stands at 17 which is 2,380 fragments. The other three items combined for 3,220 more fragments which brings this weeks completely unsuccessful grind to a total of 9,510 fragments. All told, I'm at just under 20 hours of pure arch grinding this week which is absolutely ridiculous. Getting 3 of those frickin' Hauberks in a row three times is also redonk. I don't buy RNG for a second. I'm convinced Blizz purposefully makes these achieves absolutely insane on purpose and frankly, it really sucks the fun out of it because it's gotten to the point where Im tempted to send Blizz a final note telling them I'm cancelling my account and they can shove this game right up their *** because this is just stupid now. I get that grinding is part of the game and some achieves are more difficult than others but come on! I've posted these numbers for people looking for current info to give them an idea of what they may be in for if they decide to make a concerted effort to get this achieve and decide if they really think it's worth it for a lousy 25 achieve points.

To anyone who has it already, I commend your determination. To those that are looking into getting it - good luck and I hope you can hold your sanity through the mind numbing grind.

Kommentar von Feliciamarie

This achievement is very, very RNG. I still have one more pristine to go but boy oh boy did I not have fun with Highborne.

54 Violetglass Vessel
42 Inert Leystone Charm
31 Quietwine Vial
45 Pre-War Highborne Tapestry
39 Nobleman's Letter Opener < Last Highborne I needed.

I went through 125+ digsites on Highborne alone looking for Nobleman's Letter Opener.

Be prepared for a loooong grind.

Kommentar von xYusuke23x

For those looking for a macro to show how many solves (for any of the curator achievements):

/run print("Total artifacts"); for x=1,255 do local c=GetNumArtifactsByRace(x); local a =0; for y=1,c do local t = select(10, GetArtifactInfoByRace(x, y)); a=a+t;end local rn = GetArchaeologyRaceInfo(x); if( c > 1 ) then print(rn .. ": " .. a); end end

If you just want the Legion solves, change "x=1,255" to "x=3,5"; Battle for Azeroth solves is 1,2; Draenor solves is 6,8; Pandaria solves is 9,11.

Credit goes to Anaudri from Tanaris-US for the script, which improved the many scripts already circulating by future proofing for later expansions and fixing display errors that occured post 8.0.

Kommentar von Vintoleth2007

53 Highborne solves. all pristine done
45 demonic solves. all pristine done
57 highmountain solves. only ONE pristine done. just done 12 in a row now with no pristine.

skimming through the comments here, a lot of people seem to have it easy with 2 races, then the 3rd takes ages. conspiracy?

Kommentar von Sleeve123

I´ve seriously started doing this achievement about 3-4 weeks ago... had some pristines from Legion, but didn´t seriously do Archeology at that time. Here is how many solves I required to finally finish this achievement.

Highborne:
Pre-War Highborne Tapestry - 18
Violetglass Vessel - 24
Inert Leystone Charm - 19
Quietwine Vial - 20
Nobleman´s Letter Opener - 19

Highmountain Tauren: (easiest for me)
Hand-Smoothed Pyrestone -14
Trailhead Drum - 17
Moosebone Fish-Hook - 8
Drogbar Gem-Roller - 15
Stonewood Bow - 16

Demonic: (worst, worst, worst)
Orb of Inner Chaos - 37 ( this little bugger was the last and longest I was missing )
Imp´s Cup - 37
Malformed Abyssal -31
Flayed-Skin Chronicle - 35
Houndstooth Hauberk - 35

To all the people who are still trying to do this... don´t despair, it is doable, just takes a !@#$load of nerves and time. Good luck fellow diggers ;)

Kommentar von Trevena

Finished after a while. I thought I show my numbers for whoever likes to estimate the need.

Digsites: 242

Demonic: 39
Flayed-Skin Choinicle: 3
Orb of Inner Chaos: 4
Imp's Cup: 15
Malformed Abyssal: 5
Houndstooth Hauberk: 7

Highborne: 95
Quietwine Vial: 11
Pre-War Highborne Tapestry: 20
Violetglass Vessel: 16
Inert Leystone Charm: 23
Nobleman's Letter Opener: 20

Highmountain Tauren: 146
Hand-Smoothed Pyrestone: 41
Trailhead Drum: 23
Stonewood Bow: 28
Moosebone Fish-Hook: 24 (last pristine)
Drogbar Gem-Roller: 27

Kommentar von TirednQuiet

Finished this achievement over the course of the last 2 months during a quiet period for Shadowlands. Amusingly, I completed 4 of the 5 highmountain pristines within only 23 Highmountain Digsites, I knew it was all going too well, Blizzard RNG kicked in HARD!, the last pristine for the achievement (Pristine Drogbar Gem-Roller) took me a further 94 Digsites to obtain, at which point I already had the Groundbreaker Title! My Statistics for those interested in some pain:

Total Digsites: 254

Demonic: 47 Digsites , 75 Solved Artifacts

Flayed-Skin Choinicle: 17
Orb of Inner Chaos: 15
Imp's Cup: 11
Malformed Abyssal: 13
Houndstooth Hauberk: 19

Highborne: 90 Digsites, 74 Solved Artifacts

Quietwine Vial: 13
Pre-War Highborne Tapestry: 11
Violetglass Vessel: 21
Inert Leystone Charm: 17
Nobleman's Letter Opener: 12

Highmountain Tauren: 117 Digsites,174 Solved Artifacts

Hand-Smoothed Pyrestone: 56
Trailhead Drum: 25
Stonewood Bow: 35
Moosebone Fish-Hook: 34
Drogbar Gem-Roller: 24 (Last Pristine needed for Legion Curator)

Kommentar von nezagu

The burning hellfire of blinding hatred i have burning within me may have been pre-empted by this horrible achievement.

From reading comments and others experience i have come to believe that blizzard have made it less likely to get your pristine's as you get closer to completion. I am currently chasing my last one with 100 demonic solves in (rough math shows 1000 digs at minimum and about 10000 fragments in).

At this point i am not sure what is more infuriating - that i have been doing this now for 5 hours and 12 solves on the last i need putting me at 28 with no pristine in sight - or seeing another GOD DAMN Hundebisshalsberge show up.

I am now going to go in the corner and cry and join the other lunatics.... before i start my last one in Draenor which i am 100% sure they haven't done the same thing.....

Kommentar von Tiefflieger

Just a few hints:

You are restoring artifacts for 3 different "factions": Demonic, Highborne and Highmountain Tauren
You can boost your artifact creation with the following keystones - they are sold at the AH.

Demonic: Zeichen des Betrügers
Highborne: Uralte Schriftrolle aus Suramar
Highmountain Tauren: Hochbergritualstein

Which faction is up changes every other week.
Be aware that if you massively boost this with bought keystones you might need some extra digging for Kein Stein auf dem anderen gelassen.

Kommentar von Wyo1

i think this is between BFA and WoD in terms of difficulty and time spent. Finished it today with the 23rd Hauberk, while the Drust Soul Coffer only required 9 solves. Draenor still not finished, and has way more artifacts.

Kommentar von lovekitten35

Is it even possible to get the Pristine Nobleman's Letter Opener anymore? As of this date I have solved it 51 times, and it's the last one I need.

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	Makelloser Wichtelkelch (1)
	Makelloser deformierter Abyssal (1)
	Makellose Hundebisshalsberge (1)
	Makelloser inaktiver Leysteinglücksbringer (1)
	Makelloser Vorkriegswandschmuck der Hochgeborenen (1)
	Makellose Trommel des Aufbruchs (1)
	Makelloser handgeschliffener Pyrostein (1)
	Makelloser Steinholzbogen (1)

	Makellose auf Haut geschriebene Chronik (1)
	Makellose Kugel des inneren Chaos (1)
	Makelloses Violettglasgefäß (1)
	Makellose Stillrebenphiole (1)
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