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Kommentar von DrHeckyll

My openraid achievement raid group theory crafted this earlier today - we figured it has something to do with the runic adds in that the player marked receives a buff for standing in the orb rune and NOT killing the adds to get a buff to protect you from the boss ability that's buffed if you don't deal with the adds - but the PTR version has been radically changed and this idea was not likely to work.

Nonetheless we explored options with the add regardless - we confirmed it only gives a buff it the player marked with the rune KILLS the add and not anyone standing near by.

We then tried looking for hidden buffs. We tried mind controlling the add - the cast occurs but has no effect.

There is no RUNIC MASTERY buff as far as we know!

All I can think of is this achievement is individual and has a hidden tracking to it, whereby you have to, at some point, receive ALL the marks over several raids OR you prolong the phase and try and get it in one phase (unlikely due to enrage and RNG).

If it is hidden tracking then i don't know how to write the script to track it - perhaps such a person can help here?

OTT - no idea - the 2nd achievement in game now that has extremely little info!

if you wish to become part of my group on the cutting edge of these things pst me in game or join openraid and add me!

Kommentar von YariniCeteri

My group is in the same boat as DrHeckyll's wherein we can't quite figure out this achievement. Figured I'd make this post to update info in case we figure anything out, and also to mention something we did try as it was suggested by Seerax in response to a comment here.

The 5 runes around the room where the Runebearers must be brought to die throughout the fight do indeed light up in an apparently random sequence just prior to the Runebearers being summoned. The working theory was that the Runebearers must be killed in that specific order in order to "achieve mastery over the Runebearers" as the debuff in question states. However, we tried this multiple times throughout several different pulls. The sequence comes in quite fast but in our attempts we got it right at least once, but were not awarded with a debuff for doing so, nor for an achievement.

We want to try some different things next raid lockout when we re-kill it, such as not letting Runebearers touch their runes until it's their turn to die. As such, I'll keep this post updated as we try to figure out this achievement. Any suggestions are welcome, as is feedback from other groups attempting this.

Kommentar von Deathwolfbigbo

9 out of 12 ppl in my Raid got this Achievement earlier.. i have no clue how they did that tho, cuz i died due to lacking CDs on Odyns Spear (Others that didnt get the Achievement were a Mage that died, and the Second Tank that died too.)

The least i can say is, that you better not die. and you dont have to participate in every add-kill.

Cant say if we killed them in a specific order tho, we mainly kill them random and they die pretty fast anyways.. so no way to actually track that.

Kommentar von Gamber

We did this Achievement today and we figuered out how it works.

1) Get into phase two where you fight Odyn.
2) Wait for "Draw Power".
3) The runes on the floor will shine up one after another.
4) Kill the adds in the order of the runes (Example: Yellow shined up first. Red second, etc. So you have to kill the yellow add first, the red add second, etc.)
Now you have a Debuff called "Runic Mastery" which guarantees you get the Achievement after killing Odyn.
5) Pop Bloodlust and get Odyn into the next phase without getting a second "Draw Power".
6) Kill Odyn. Don't die.

Achievement earned. :-)

Kommentar von prodftw

Just want to add something to what Gamber said.

The adds must be drawn onto the runes in the SAME order as the runes light up.

For example, if it's yellow, orange, blue, green, purple:

The adds must step on the runes in that order.
First add to yellow, then to orange.. etc. etc.

Kommentar von zerinaesol

We had a bit of trouble with this at first in our group, so hopefully this helps:
1. Get Odyn to phase 2 (where he comes down)
2. DPS him some but don't push below 60%
3. Before Draw Power, the runes that the adds go to light up briefly in a certain order, memorize this order
4. When the Runebearers come out, drag them onto the runes IN THAT ORDER, then ALSO kill the adds in that order.
<<If Done successfully,You will get a debuffed called Runic Mastery, IF YOU DIE OR USE AN IMMUNITY YOU WILL LOSE IT AND NOT GET THE ACHIEVEMENT (personally, everyone else will)>>
5. Get Odyn to phase 3 BEFORE the next Draw Power
6. Kill Odyn
7. (optional) laugh at the shadow priest that used STM and didn't get the achievement because of it (<3)

You can have all the adds on the runes at once, so long as they are dragged onto and killed in the correct order. e.g. you don't need to kill add 1 before dragging add 2 onto the rune.

Kommentar von Gisero

We just done it some minutes ago, apart from what everyone else stated, you CAN actually kill the runebearers while everyone tries to drag 'em onto the next runes and you HAVE TO kill every runebearer before Odyn casts his Unerring Blast (otherwise the rune deactivates and you can't get the debuff).
You get the debuff as soon as the last runebearer dies.

Screen from our kill try with the debuff displayed: http://i.imgur.com/o4Beq4q.jpg

(to make it easier: have only one person call the runes out and someone to type the order down, so you avoid confusion and arguing - if it's wrong, you keep going, but don't waste time - good luck)

Kommentar von Melandroso

Did this today after many, many attempts and we worked for science and finally worked out what you need to do. Here is what you need to do:

1. The first thing that happens as Draw Power starts is that the runes light up one by one. They light up in a random order, but you have to memorize this order. It can take a few attempts to learn what this looks like, but it is the key. The order of the corresponding buffs on Odyn is random and cannot be used as a reminder. What we did was to type in chat like so" "r, g, y, p, b" for an order of Red, Green, Yellow, Purple, Blue.

2. Then the adds come and five people get fixated by the adds. Do NOT place the adds in the runes, but move them close to the right rune - except for the one, whose rune lit up first. That one takes the add straight into the right rune and the raid blows that add up.

3. Now, as the first add dies, the person, who has the add, whose rune lit up as number two moves that add into the rune and the raid kills it.

4. As the second add dies, the third add is moved into the rune, gets killed and so on and so forth.

5. The last add HAS to die before the Unerring Blast is cast. Bloodlust is very helpful, even if you overgear the encounter.

6. If you did it right, you now have the Meister der Runen debuff. If you did not get that debuff, stop dps on boss and try again on the next set of adds.

7. After you get the debuff, keep everyone alive while you kill the boss and everyone gets the achievement. The achievement is personal, so if someone dies, that person do not get it.

You have to be alive at the end WITH the runic mastery buff to get the achievement.

A HUGE shout-out to the awesome Openraid group, who got this achievement after a couple of pulls and then stuck for about ten more pulls to help the one druid tank, who was dead when everyone else got the achievement. WoW at its finest.

Kommentar von TehBankertin

We did this in 8.0 prepatch.

It seemed the two things we learned from pulling this is:

1) You should move the mobs onto the colors in the same order that you will kill them.
2) The first wave is the only wave that matters

On point two there was at least twice where it seemed we did it correctly but didn't get the debuff because it wasn't the first wave.

The order things light up is EXTREMELY difficult to see so having 2-4 people looking out for it and calling out the order for everyone will make it easiest. On your first pull I'd suggest just getting used to the colors lighting up. Which starts about 4-5 seconds before draw power sometimes. So be on the ready.

Burning from full to 55% during phase 2 before the next draw power was pretty easy for our group and we had no one below 205 ilvl.

Kommentar von NoNooNoN

You don't need 5man, just kill them in order during first runes.

Kommentar von Djuntas

I just want to say, even at 120 this achivement is VERY confusing and hard. I dont recommend doing this with pugs, unless they are good. It sucks, this is like Show me yours moves 2.0. We got it after quite some time.

Kommentar von Rathaniel

Soloed as a DH DPS 401 IL. Normal Difficulty
Very RNG, need to be fast mobile class, i think only DH and Monk will be able to solo.

P1: Wait until either mob does an ability where they cast and can't move then felrush away to get rid of shield and get mob down to 30%, next you kill other mob which will be full health when the lower HP mob is casting (this will be after adds, just wait until shields are removed from adds, no need to go to runes), this should be about 200k damage in a few seconds, easily doable with beam and BD few Chaos Strikes. Then felrush to other mob and finish the phase.

P2: I stood in between north and north east rune facing throne, i had sight of all runes. Now the RNG, you have to be lucky, if you dont get a few lit up that are next to one another you won't have time to kill adds on each rune as you have to kill adds within the phase, if adds loose shield you failed.

Dont bother targeting correct mob just AOE.

I luckily got 3 in a row, 1st was north east (Blade Dance), then north (Eye Beam) then east (Blade Dance), then across the map (BD) and 1 final one Chaos Strike as there is only 1 add and odyn so no need to aoe. I just managed to kill final add in time (i got stunned once), then heroism and nuke odyn so you don't get another add phase.

You get Runic Mastery debuff when final add dies so you know if you were successful or not.

Kommentar von Bloodleh

The dragging order does not matter. We just did the achievement and only killing them in the correct order matters.

Kommentar von Sharpbladez

Just completed this as an Outlaw Rogue wearing a bunch of pieces with Speed on it (ilvl 448). It took me about 10 attempts either due to bad RNG or having a hard time seeing the rune order.

Kommentar von Snugglebuns

Just did this Achievement 8/19/20 with 4 players. If you focus on Odyn you'll see the order you have to go from his buff list, the kill order is backwards. So look at his list of buffs from right to left and be quick about killing the adds on top of their runes and you're good. Seemed to only give the buff when we did it correctly the on the 1st set of adds, didn't work on the other sets of adds.

Kommentar von coldwinter18

Please, some people needs to stop giving misinformation for no reason...

You need to kill every runer in order ON THEIR RUNE! IT WONT WORK if you kill them in the right order BUT NOT on their rune. Just because we have the dmg and the ilvl it is possible to kill them without removing their protective shield. YOU NEED to remove the shield AND kill them in the right order.

Kommentar von Vaugn

I cannot emphasize this enough. Instead of watching the colors on the runes change, look at the boss. The REVERSE ORDER of the colored buffs is the order in which you should kill them.

So purple, red, green, blue, yellow should be killed yellow, blue, green, red, purple.

Update: Based on the below comment, this technique works great when you're alone, but may not work in groups. If you are in a group, I suggest having your group leader pull and following the colors they see (although I can't promise it'll work).

Kommentar von Tabasko

This is how I did it SOLO as Elemental Shaman:

Set Odin as Focus Target so you always see his buffs.

Nuke down the two adds, spawn Odin and damage him a little. Position yourself in between 2 runes. Wait until Odin gets the rune buffs and the adds spawn.

Now you have to kill the adds in the reverse order of Odin`s debuffs, starting from right going to the left - while they are standing on the respective runes.

Ghost Wolf immediately to the rune of Odin's most right buff color, while tabbing through the mobs until you find the add with that color. Run behind the rune, the add follows you and hit it with Frostshock (you will know when it's in the rune, when it lost it's rune buff). Continue in ghost wolf to the next rune, while tabbing for the respective mob.

Most important is that you always keep moving, not losing time positioning the adds, and you need luck that you get some adjacent runes so the pathing is short.

Only works with the 1st set of adds. If you messed up, stand still, die and restart. Took me 10 tries.

Kommentar von Detamble

Still quite challenging in shadowlands. We had a group of 8 people and took about 8 pulls before we got it.

One thing I didn't see here is that the rune phase ends pretty fast. So everyone needs to bring their add to the right rune asap, and then the killing of the adds in the right order can begin.

Good luck.

Kommentar von clinia

Me and two friends tried to do this on mythic..
We did not see any colored buffs on Odyn, and after multiple tries without getting the Runic Mastery debuff we went out and changed to normal, where we got the Runic Mastery debuff on first try.

Not sure if there is actually something that prevents you from getting the debuff on mythic.

Kommentar von catlicker

Solo'd as a boomkin/druid in 9.2.5 (2022)

1. Place color markers on each of the runes. Each rune is always the same colour.
2. Get to phase 2 (in phase 1, one of the mobs will stand still. Pull the other away to remove the 99% shield reduction then nuke it. While it channels a heal, pull the other mob away that is full hp and burst it).
3. Once Odin draws power, look at his buffs. You will want to kill the mobs in the reverse order of his buffs (just like the comment mentioned above). E.g. if Odin's buffs are purple > blue, then you kill blue first then purple last).
4. Start running to the first color and while you're running, tab target the mob and moonfire it. One tick should instantly kill it on its rune.
5. Start running to the next color and on your way prepare a moonfire on the mob that should die.
6. Repeat those steps while utilizing your mobility cooldowns. Dash / Roar.

May take a few tries, but once you get the hang of it, it'll make sense.

NOTE: You need to kill the mobs rather quickly in order. Otherwise Odin does an aoe that removes all shields and then the mobs are no longer eligible for the achievement.

Kommentar von Dinno

Nearly everyone is saying that you need to kill the adds with runes from right to left (reverse order) if you watch odyns bar, but i couldn't get the buff that way. Maybe its changed, but doesnt work that way.

You need to kill the corresponding rune mobs THE EXACT same order if you target odyn and see his rune buffs - left to right. Hope this helps some of you.

Kommentar von JacksonWrath

Adding further discourse that the debuff order does not always correspond, even solo'd. I had to memorize the order the runes flashed in.

Solo'd as feral druid on normal. Kept shadowmelding to reset until I got a favorable order (2 out of 5 were next to the previous rune), then popped movement CDs for the 2 runes that were further apart. Just barely made it before Odyn casts the ability that removes the shields (and thus your chance at the achievement).

Additional thoughts:

Runes generally started flashing right when the 4th spear comes out of the ground.
Once the mobs spawn, you have 30 seconds to kill them all.
Even only at 60, I couldn't just AoE them because it also hit Odyn and pushed him to the next phase prematurely, and it was doing enough damage to the other mobs through their shields to occasionally kill them.
Tab targeting worked very well. Each mob has the specific rune buff so they're easy to identify. Cycle through them while you're running to the next rune.

Kommentar von Isthahar

Done solo today as Fury War, no-equip at all but one two-handed sword. Can confirm it is the exact order shown as Odyn's rune buffs. So do not bother looking for the flashes nor follow the sequence of runes shown at the top of the screen (because it is different from the one needed, no mater the direction do you read it).
It is very easy to crit on Odyn and make him into the next phase , so uneqquip everything but for your weapon, and wait for the try in which the order of the runes will be almos circular.
Good Luck all.

Kommentar von Miniman

Did this today solo as a fury warrior. A key point in Dragonflight with the new UI is that you want to kill the adds in the left to right order of the debuffs that are on Odyn, and not in reverse order as alot of pre-Dragonflight comments here say.

If you're using UI addons that change target frames and buff/debuff display then this might differ.

Kommentar von xLunacyx

I've been trying to do this for weeks and just cannot seem to get it.
I check Odyn's buffs from right to left, kill adds on the runes in that order as fast as possible, and still not getting this achievement.

Edit: Then as I post, I see Miniman's post, where you do kill in the left-to-right order due to dragonflight changes, got it immediately after on an alt.

Kommentar von Lucifa42

While waiting for the right RNG, carefully push Odyn over into the next phase to die much quicker. You don't need to stand anywhere specific, the stacking debuff will kill you.

Kommentar von stym

As others have mentioned, the proper rune order to kill the Runenträger der Valarjars as of Dragonflight is LEFT to RIGHT, in the BOSS raid frame.
The Raid debuff frame (top right) is going to show you a different rune order and you will most likely fail the achievement if you trust it.
Target Odyn, quickly memorize the rune order left to right in his raid frame and then proceed.
Since you are now targeting Runebearers instead of Odyn, I hope you did memorize it because you won't have time to look at his frame in the next 30 seconds, and his debuffs don't show up in the focus frame.

reset the fight if the rune order is not favorable (something like green-orange-blue-purple-yellow is a certain failure) using whatever tools you have (demonic circle, feign death, vanish, shadowmeld, invisibility).
The best order would be clockwise or counter-clockwise (green-purple-orange-yellow-blue starting with any of those colors or the reverse), but anything that has 3 contiguous colors is fine),

Kommentar von YodasEvilTwin

Nothing works. I tried killing the adds in the order of the boss's target frame buffs, in the reverse of that, in the order of the boss frame buffs, in the reverse order of that, and in the order the runes flashed in on. Tried with no addons, tried with ElvUI, tried as a solo person, tried as a solo raid group (listed a private group in the finder). Multiple times each way, multiple characters, no Runic Mastery buff. Surely it must be bugged?

Kommentar von Neuren

Preparations:
- Use "/console cameraDistanceMaxZoomFactor 2.6" to be able to zoom out camera. Helps to see the first flashing rune
- Esc - Edit mode - Find "Focus Frame" and left click it - set "Use larger frame". The small one doesn't show buffs (including rune colors order)
- "Dungeons and raids" - pick any category and click "Start a group" - Input any title, set "Private" and click "List group". This gives you an access to party bar. Click on the yellow triangle to show your party fuctionality (left top side of the screen by default) - click the flag icon and set flags to help you mark rune colors. Starting from the rune Hymdall stands near clockwise set world markers: Red, Yellow, Blue, Green, Purple

Start a fight

1. Wait for Hymdall to stand still casting, move Hyrja away, kill her and Hymdall next. Fight gets to the phase 2
2. Watch for incoming Odin's cast "Draw Power" in about 40s. Zoom camera out. Remember the first rune flashing and go there. While waiting select the boss, right click on his round icon and "Set Focus". This would help seeing the order of rune colors you need for the achievement. It's random every try. I have also option "Buffs on top" set of the Focus Frame. So in my case when Draw Power has started I see the last color in the 2nd row on top. Dont get confused. This is the last color but not the first. Also as ppl mentioned here already since Dragonflight you should go in left to right order.
3. When all 5 runes flashing is complete you should be standing on the first already with 5 mobs rushing to you. Tab through incoming mobs and find one with the same color as the rune you're standing on. The buff on the mob dissapears when it's standing on the rune. Kill it when it happens.
4. At the same time check the order of buffs on the focused boss icon and prepare to go to the next color rune right after you kill an add on the related rune. The goal is to kill all 5 on the runes of the same color in 30s.
5. If you do the p. 4 right the buff Runic mastery appears on you. This is the tigger to kill the boss and get the achievement.

Notice that since colors order in p. 4 is random it might take you a while to get lucky with an order where runes are close and don't make you rush to the opposite side.

Kommentar von Deepdale

Just did it after a good 15/16 attempts. My warrior was too slow to complete within the 30 seconds limit, so I used my outlaw rogue for the harpoon and worked like a treat.

Kommentar von Snehvit

COMPLETED IN RETAIL IN 2024!

Completed in Normal with 5+ people, following Odyn's buffs from *left* to *right* (not in reverse), during the first runes.

Since we spent a long time trying to get it following the buffs in reverse, we were also pulling the mobs on the circles in the correct order as we killed them, and we swapped from HC to normal, but I don't think this is necessary, but we had tried "everything" already before we tried following the other buff order, so we just did as we had practiced. We also used a monk statue to keep Odyn away from the rest of us to not accidentally smack his face again (oops). This is not needed, but definitely helpful! Lastly, we were in voice chat where I called the colors in order as people completed theirs, so they could just do their thing and we could do it in time.

This could probably also be done solo, assuming you follow the correct order!

PS: Make sure to take off gear that can cause damage on attack, or just go naked!

TLDR; Follow Odyn's buffs from *left* to *right* during the first set of runes.

Good luck!

Kommentar von ForzenFire

Just completed solo in 10.2 on ToV Normal 25 man. But I had to overcome several separate challenges.

Determining kill order - Buff from LEFT to RIGHT on the target frame (when you have Odyn targetted) works. However ELVUI didnt show me any of the buffs I needed so I did a fresh Blizzard UI. This works and is correct. You CAN also see the runes flash on the floor if you have a good memory. In that case it helps having Odyn out of sight.

Boss is very squishy - use a level 60. I completed with a level 70 BM Monk (se below why). A level 60 may be slow killing the adds however. Find the right trade off between alts and equipment here.

Boss is in the way and makes everything harder to see (Also when Odyn can take splash damage when you damage adds which is bad) - Park him in a corner. Hunter/Demon pets on pet passive. BM Black Ox statue. This is why I used a BM Monk and, even at 70, with virtually no risk of killing Odyn accidentally.

Killing the adds. - AoE can do splash damage and kill adds before it's their rune. Single target is safer but you need to tab target. I dont do that normally so that added time for me. In the end, I manually targetted the first add before they are bunched up, then killed 2 with mild aoe. Then used ST for last 2. This was a problem for me but may not be for you.

Resetting the fight if you fail - Shadowmeld, Vanish, Feign, Invis all works so chars with those are good for this. Potions may work but I did not try. However, draw power repeats every 50 seconds or so and you can complete achieve on any of them. If you need to reset and cant lose combat. Gently DPS him below 50% and wait until he kills you.

TLDR; Chose a BM Monk and Black Ox statue to keep Odyn away from runes. Use Blizzard stock UI and kill adds from LEFT to RIGHT as shown on Odyns target buffs during Draw Power. Be careful with AoE, adds can die accidentally.

Good luck everyone!

PS We tried a 5 man group the night before. As far as we could tell we did everything right and still didnt get the Runic Mastery buff. If you were part of that group; dont lose heart, it IS doable!

Kommentar von JPObserver

Don't know if anyone explained this, but here it goes.
Do NOT look at the side where the debuffs usually are when the runes pop up. They are in the wrong order.
I followed those runes succefully, and completed it in time, still I didn't get the debuff to kill Odyn.

You have to set focus on Odyn. Under Odyn's focused plate is the real order of the runes, from left to right.

I got the achievement on third try because I got stunned while focusing on the runes.

Good Luck!

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