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Kommentar von appleseed107

Welcome Home, ashen one. Speak thine heart's desire.

Kommentar von Grippo

Nice touch on the icon for this achievement to closely resemble Humanity from the first Dark Souls

Kommentar von AragonJenkins

Listen carefully, Skeleton.

Kommentar von yirka

Dunkle Seelen is the newest addition to the many Dark Souls references inside of World of Warcraft. This time the name is a clear nod towards the name of said game "Dark Souls", the icon bears extreme resemblance to the original Dark Souls box art.

This is also bears very close resemblance to another Dark Souls reference, namely the now removed Warlock spell called Dark Soul (also used the exact same icon).

As for the other references there is Gelobt sei die Sonne!, referring to the commonly used phrase "Praise the Sun" \ /
Another reference is Knackzahn, a direct copy of Sif, the Great Grey Wolf (also pet of Artorias, the person depicted on the box art).

If there are any other references to Dark Souls feel free to add a comment.

Kommentar von YariniCeteri

Everyone else beat me to the references, so I guess I'll post some info about the actual achieve :(

During the second intermission phase which starts at 40%, several Shadowsoul adds will spawn. They look like Netherlords and do nothing but channel Destabilized Shadowsoul, doing damage to the raid after an 8 second channel. The first channel starts right as Kil'Jaeden takes off, and there are 5 adds. These casts are not interruptible, but can be stopped with stuns/grips/disorients/blinds etc. If anyone has a talent they can spec into for more CC, it would be worth taking for this.

However it isn't as simple as keeping them all from casting and killing them off, since the second intermission phase also adds the Deceiver's Vale, which makes everyones view distance very short (8 yards) and causing your screen to be blacked out around the edges. This means that adds not close to you will need people sitting on them the entire time to ensure they can be CC'd. Illidan will also come down during this phase on the west side of the platform. Standing near him gives you a DoT for 20 seconds that let's you see 40 yards instead of 8, which will greatly help ranged kill multiple adds.

As you're pushing the phase, and BEFORE the fog makes it impossible to see them, all the adds have already spawned, and you can assign several people to go to each add to keep it locked down. Given their random spawn, and how spread they are, Death Knights will help immensely for this achieve, as multiple DK's can grip all the adds together and a Blood DK could Gorefiend them. That said other classes that have knockbacks could help group these things up and interrupt them similarly, such as Druids with Typhoon and Ele Shammies with Thuderstorm. They drop pretty quick and you really only have to kick them 2-4 times depending on your DPS.

As a final note, its worth picking a kill order for them and have them focused down. Even a large group likely won't have enough CC for all of them forever and so rather than trying to keep 5 locked down while we cleave them, single target nuking them (at least until they're close together) means that they're getting less casts off overall.

As a post-final note, keep in mind that doing this achieve on Mythic means you'll be getting Rupturing Singularities during this phase, so you'll need classes that don't have to worry about knockbacks to take care of the corner adds so that they don't get knocked off while trying to stop a cast.

FrostyShot#1667 with questions.

Kommentar von Matsen115

Dark Souls, eh? Prepare to rage.

Kommentar von Salewow

My group used Schwarzgebratenes Worgsteak which helped us tracking Illidan, but you still need dk`s good coordination and some good rng.

Kommentar von Night

Preparation

Get as many Death Knights as you possibly can since their Todesgriff and Blutschattens Griff are necessary for this achievement.
Make sure every single player in the raid has their minimap zoomed in. As soon as someone finds Illidan during "Intermission: Deceiver's Veil" that player can ping on the minimap to let others know of his location.
Due to their insane mobility, Monks and Warriors are extremely helpful and they should talent Fußfeger / Schockwelle.

Strategy

Tank Kil'jaeden in a corner of the platform to force the adds to spawn close to each other.
Assign your Death Knights to grip the Schattenseeles. They should always Todesgriff first and then Blutschattens Griff.
Everyone should spread out in a semicircle around Kil'jaeden so that at least 1 person will instantly find Illdan, get the Schleier des Betrügers buff and then rush towards the Schattenseeles to AoE stun and kill them.

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Kommentar von Rqsb

I'll share a bit of strategy that will make this achievement much easier for most of groups.

I led a raid to do this achievement with only 1 blood DK in the group, but we managed to get 4 pulls out of 7 where we grouped the adds properly.
The key here is to put the boss at 42%, wait for a moment when there is neither singularity nor armageddon coming (for us it was right after the 2nd shadow reflection spawn) then put KJ and the WHOLE RAID in a corner of the room. Adds will spawn close to players / KJ and doing so, most likely in a clump.
Your blood DK can then easily mass grip them.

Another piece of information is the adds take like 2 seconds to materialize, after that they are targettable (and this is the time for your dk to grip), and 2 seconds after that, the room becomes dark.

RIGHT AFTER the adds start materializing (aka their spawning position is determined) your whole raid should spread to the other 3 corners of the room, because Illidan will most likely be there (aka not on the same corner like KJ). This gives you a chance for a stunning class to actually be near illidan's spawn point and be fast enough to come back to the adds to stun them.

Good luck on this achievement, its much easier than you actually think when you apply this strategy.

Kommentar von DrHeckyll

As above, credit to RQSB (upvote him) re general strat and Asmongold re blood dk comp.

The RQSB strat depends on working out how to manipulate the add spawn. We stopped DPS @ 42% and when safe moved him to a corner where EVERYONE stacked up (one person away can cause a distant spawn and thus a wipe). We had 4xDK tanks (some players got on alts). We also had 3 lock gates from the corner to move FAST to the other corners. ALSO, we had a hunter and that could track humanoids and used the following macro:

/target Lord Illidan Stormrage
/run if (UnitName("target") == "Lord Illidan Stormrage" and CheckInteractDistance("target", 3)) then Minimap:PingLocation(0,0) end
/targetlasttarget

Thus, it must have been less then 2 seconds to grip the adds and get buff and return to kill adds. The DKs then alternated griping them etc. Thus we basically had them all locked down from the moment they spawned.

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Kommentar von boombeef

Just did this as the only DK in my raid and went Blood for Gorfiend's Grasp.
The main piece of advice I can give is to be patient. Don't grip early. Wait until you see nameplates pop up on the mobs. They need to be targetable before you pull them in.

My group put KJ in a corner with the other tank pointing his face outwards. I stayed just a few yards behind KJ.

Used very simple macro:
/target player
/cast Gorefiend's Grasp

Rest is covered by the helpful posts here about stuns after finding Illidan etc. Good Luck guys.

Kommentar von duranox

Did this with 1 dk for mass grips, a DH with Blackened Worg Steak for humanoid tracking.

At around 41-42% drag KJ into a corner all the way very close to the edge then have everyone stack right on top of him, since it's normal getting hit 1-2 times from the fel claw isn't that big of a deal. Once he starts casting the veil, make sure your dk is ready with grips and knows when to.

Right when the darkness drops, the DH should spot illidan on his minimap and dash straight over there following it by a vengeful retreat when he's got the debuff, pop meta straight onto the adds to stun them then wait until they have 2-3sec left on casting timer for the attack then stun them again with Nova.

At this point the rest of the raid should have the debuff and be nuking them down in a few sec.

Kommentar von 153089

This is like the Dark Souls of WoW achievements.

Kommentar von thuylien

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Kommentar von MaridiuS

Kil'jaeden starts casting a spell for like 8 seconds in order to enter the phase where adds spawn when he gets dropped to 40%. In BFA it is possible to burst the boss down before he finishes the cast. Use BL at about 55% and all CDs at around 45% and with a decently geared 6+man group it is quite doable and much easier than the legion method.

Kommentar von FuxieDK

At level 120, no DKs are needed...

If you have 6-8 good DPS (or 10 average), you can simply pop Bloodlust around 50%, personal CDs around 45% and then just nuke through his cast that starts at 40%.

If he doesn't get the cast completed before he dies, achevement is granted.

Kommentar von Qoko

In followup to the reports that Kil'jaeden can be nuked as he's casting Schleier des Betrügers, in 8.3 you can quite comfortably solo it (with two it's trivial) if you have 465+ with some half decent Corruption. You want to take some precaution as to how to nuke him down from ~50% to 0 alone: it's ~2 million in nine seconds, which is quite an achievement even with the current gear.

As phase 2 starts, just pop Hero/BL/TW/drums and Trank der ungezügelten Wut as it will take less than 40 seconds.
Take him to 60% as you're applying any dots you have and prepare a big nuke to start the burst.
The moment he casts Schattenreflexion: Eruptiv use everything: you have nine seconds to do anything to him.

Schattenreflexion: Eruptiv is the longest cast he has besides Schleier des Betrügers totaling nine seconds. It seems safer to keep him a bit higher and use the combination of casts to do a proper burst then to accidentally bring him below 40% and don't manage in 7.5 seconds. It obviously takes a while for the adds to finish their cast and dots can still finish him; if you don't want to risk this you can drop yourself off instantly to wipe and retry.

Kommentar von AzerateAeriePeak

Don't try to just burst him down from 100% to 0%. This will cause him do the 9 second cast while during the flying phase, during which he is invincible. The adds will spawn while he is in the air and fail the achievement.

Kommentar von ljgard

so yeah just got this achievement. save cooldowns and bloodlust for when he lands then blow the absolute $%^& out of him. if you kill him before he finishes the cast, achievement is yours!

Kommentar von crystallyn

So we just attempted this in Shadowlands with a group of 13 people and when we followed the suggested burn strats he kept despawning. What we realized was we had to slow dps him after he came down from the first intermission until he started casting Deceiver's Veil, then we popped everything and burned him during the cast. At level 60, we were able to burst him down easily before the cast finished. If you're soloing it or doing it with only a few people you might want to start burning him once he comes down from the intermission, but with our group size it seemed like we were dpsing him too fast and he kept resetting. So if he resets on you, slow your dps until the Deceiver's Veil cast and then nuke him.

Kommentar von Yina

Easy achiev now. My wife just oneshot him with Beacon to the beyond. No extra phases, so mobs can't cast, so they can't finish the cast ;p And that was on Mythic, so other difficulties should work too.

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