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Kommentar von CovSoul

Der Kampf resettet, wenn sich in Phase 1 kein Spieler auf der Plattform befindet.

Der Erfolg kann solo erledigt werden, indem die Speere der Pflicht während der Windphasen gesammelt/geworfen werden. Dadurch wird verhindert, dass der Kampf resettet.

Wichtig ist, darauf zu achten, dass die Speere (blaue Kreise) schon verfügbar sind (in meinem Fall habe ich 3 in der ersten und 2 in der zweiten Windphase gesammelt).

Kommentar von Troublemaker

Es ist solo machbar in den 2 Windphasen während des Kampfes.

Es hängt davon ab, wie viele Speere am Himmel erscheinen, sollten es in der 1 Phase nur 2 sein würde ich resetten.

Sobald die Windphase beginnt, lauft zum Ende der Plattform und springt hinunter, um euch die Flügel zu holen.

Gleitet zu den wirbelnden Speeren in der Luft und zielt dann auf Devos.

Die hinteren Speere erreicht ihr, wenn der Wind nach hinten weht.

Zählt mit, dass ihr 5 Speere auf Devos geworfen habt, wenn ihr trefft, seht ihr Funken sprühen beim Boss.

Die Verfolgung des Erfolges war bei mir noch rot, aber ich habe ihn trotzdem bekommen.

Auch das Addon für die Erfolge wird vielleicht nur 2 Treffer anzeigen.

Ob das auch jedes Mal klappt, kann ich nicht sagen.

Der Erfolg poppt auf, nachdem Devos getötet worden ist.

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Kommentar von linodas

Spears of Duty spawn after NPC battle end. one group one spear, five in total. get the float wing after you jump off the platform,and float to the spear to pick up it.

you'll lost spear if you dead when you hold it and it won't respawn before encounter reset. To quickly reset encounter, you can jump off the platform in same time in phase 1.

as said earlier, spears wont spawn once in same time. I suggest you do all spears in phase 2 as you can because of Abgründige Detonation, if you cannot finish one spear between 2 Abgründige Detonation in phase 1, you will get one-shot kill in midair unless you have immunity skill. In video i did 5th spear in 3rd phase 1 and use Netherwandeln. But Nagender Zweifel can stop stack when you throwing spear, so just need dispel and full health by healer before you off the platform.

video we did in beta: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GvaN2AS8Us

ps. there was a bug in beta and i don't know it has been fixed or not. if more than one guy take spear in same time, the first one will 100% lost spear and fall. (Even once i suddenly lost my spear with no reason OuO.)

Kommentar von Honorable

The spears spawn over phase 1 so don't push the phases too fast or you won't have enough spears to do the achievement.

Kommentar von nomlette

The spears are dropped from the 5 groups of 2 angels fighting each other in the air above the boss arena. Each time one of the pairs dies, they will leave a spear in the air behind them.

I only suggest doing 2-3 spears per phase just for healing, as Nagender Zweifel can stack and get pretty ouchie if you stay in the "wind phase" for too long. You need to be careful not to phase the boss until 2-3 spears are available for you to use. The boss phases at either 70% health or after 3 casts of Abgründige Detonation, so tell your pumpers to hold their DPS and just hop in circles for a while.

Once you have your 2-3 spears in the air and the boss has phased, send one of your party members over the edge to get their wings, then have them pick up a spear. The throwing UI is just like the spear on the ground on the platform. I highly suggest that you wait until just after the boss moves to throw the spear. If you miss, you have to wipe and then do the fight over again.

Once your party member has thrown one spear, they'll have to fall back to the platform and yeet themselves off the edge again. If you can, catch them with a slow fall or levitate, or have them be a DH with glide or a druid with flap, or just be ready to give them some extra healing from fall damage. As of right now, THE SAME PERSON NEEDS TO BE THE ONE TO THROW ALL THE SPEARS IN THE AIR.

Once you've thrown your 2-3 spears from the sky, phase the boss out of the wind phase and do your casual damage until the last 2-3 spears are waiting for you in the sky. Then, repeat the steps already listed above.

Good luck!

TLDR: Don't phase the boss too fast. Allow 2-3 spears to gather in the sky before each phase. Don't miss your throw. Only have one person throw the sky spears.

Kommentar von insomni4c

exSPEARential (4th boss - Devos)
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Video with short voice-over guide. I don't like videos either, but it helps a lot here.

- You need to hit the boss with 5 Spears of Duty
- These spears are in floating in the sky, shown by a glowing blue circle.
- They are only available after the friendly NPC in the sky has been defeated. You can see the NPC fall to the ground which is when you can tell they are ready to be thrown.
- You need to jump off the boss platform which launches you into the sky, you can then fall/fly towards the circle, land in them, and throw the spear at the boss.
- Watch for the timer of the Abgründige Detonation cast which will instantly kill you if you aren't in the safety circle.
- Walk backwards slowly off the edge to reach the spears at the back.
- A class that can immune damage helps if they are in a bad timing with the Abyssal Detonation.
- A debuff on the boss shows how many spears have been hit by him
- We did 3 spears, intermission, then 2 spears.

Link to the rest of the Glory of the Shadowlands Hero guide.

Kommentar von ilostmahbucket

Wanted to add clarity to the existing comments, I read a lot of confusion in these comments and this is the trickiest, most time consuming achievement we ran into so far. We had like 4 pulls, long ones.

Far easier with 2 healers, no dps/time constraint.
1. Before engaging, look up. You'll see 5 pairs of dueling angels in the air. During the ground phases, the 5 Spears of Duty will spawn up in the air as blue rings exactly where the blue Kyrian angels are flying (they die), appearing over time in a set order and location - the Spears stay there above you.

2. 1st Ground Phase Pull boss, no DPS. Remember to hide inside blue dome during boss lethal AOE. Dodge her charge. WAIT, watching above you, until 3 blue rings/Spears of Duty spawn, then push to 80%.
3. 1st Air Phase / boss flies away
Spear of Duty thrower (DPS) runs off the edge of the platform, you can't die by falling - you will be launched into the air and gain golden wings. Fly into a blue ring above your team to pick up a Spear of Duty - when you pick up a Spear of Duty you will pause in place while you aim - to avoid a missed throw, wait for Devos to move and stop, then throw. You fall to the platform and take fall damage. Repeat this 3 times. You will need Backdraft winds moving in the right direction to push you to get to the 2 furthest Spear rings, but you can do those harder ones in the next air phase after you have some practice. If you derped and failed to reach a spear at all, not to worry, just jump off and try again. You will know you've hit her with all 3 Spears of Duty if you check her debuff, but you can't target her until she lands.
Everyone else - you're dispelling DOTs, bringing blue orbs to the Archon Spear as fast as you wish (this center weapon is NOT a Spear of Duty), dodging AOE that DOTs you, and cheering on your Spear of Duty thrower flying above you. When Spear of Duty thrower says they've hit with 3 Spears of Duty, anyone can throw and hit boss with the Archon Spear to end air phase.

5. 2nd Ground Phase Remember to hide inside blue dome during boss lethal AOE. Dodge her charge. WAIT, watching above you, until 2 blue rings/Spears of Duty spawn, then push to ~35% for second air phase.
6. 2nd Air Phase / boss flies away again
Spear of Duty thrower - WAIT, you likely left the furthest 2 spears for last, ensure that Backdraft winds are blowing away from the flying boss towards the back of the room/towards the last 2 Spears of Duty, as you jump off. DBM addon timers track Backdraft direction change to help you.
Everyone else - same duties as before, dispel, bring orbs, dodge AOE.
7. Spear Thrower says they hit with the 4th and 5th Spear of Duty. End the air phase by throwing the Archon spear at center of platform. Boss has 5 debuff stacks. Your achievement tracker should be white, not red. Kill boss.

Other tips from our wipes:
-It's okay if you wipe/fail, infinite attempts.
-The center spear is the ARCHON spear not a Spear of Duty. It only ends the air phase. Do not click it until you are ready to throw, else it can bug out, the special action button to throw it can go away/can't end the air phase/you must wipe.
-If someone misses with Archon spear, more orbs spawn and you can try again to phase transition, no worries there.
-However, if Spear Thrower misses a Spear of Duty throw, you won't have enough spears, there are only 5, wipe and try again.
-The transition to air phase occurs only 2 times, at 80% and ~35%. Has nothing to do with time or casts, just her health as far as we could see.
-Unsure if you could just wait until all 5 Spears of Duty spawn in the first ground phase, and throw all 5 in the first air phase. I can't think of a reason why this wouldn't work, but we split it up. If you're solo healing this would be more difficult because the stacking DOT would be more likely to stack higher. Just use 2 healers.
-We had the same person make all 5 Spear of Duty throws.
-It's possible the Spears of Duty spawn each time she does that big AOE - maybe she's killing the angels in the air, I can't remember perfectly.

Kommentar von Goldschakal

Lots of comment make this very complicated when its not.
Do 2 Healers if you can; makes it easier, but not required.

You need to hit the boss 5 times with the Spear of Duty.

Every time an angel dies (you see that by either looking up or seeing the dead angel on the ground), it will spawn a spear in the air. These spears will despawn after 2 minutes.
If you jump off, you get knocked up in the air and can grab one of those spears & then you target the boss with it; wait for devos to move once before you hit her safely.

The far spears need either phase2 with the correct wind or some form of displacement ability (druid leap, dh dash, hunter disengage, rogue shadowstep).
The close spears (the ones closer to the edge) can be hit easily in phase1, but you need to make sure to right away after an explosion or use a form of immunity for the explosion.

TL;DR: Watch dead angel, 1 person jump off, collect spear & hit boss with it. Care for explosion if you do it in p1.
Repeat 5 times

Kommentar von Artmys

Did this achievement first try on my alt using 2 Tanks hiting all spears in the ground phases as a DH tank(170 ilvl) you simply wont die to the explosion even w/o using any cds imo dk (ams/vamp/run tap) Warior (reflect) monk (celestial brew) should be fine as long as you dont pick up the spear same time as she is casting the bomb thing , always back paddle to fall down and get wings since you get more height making it easier reaching furthest spears watch out for when she charges and ask your co-tank not to move her much when you're throwing your spear , it's 10000% easier than doing this in the air phase , as you can push her normally back to ground phase not taking that much dmg also you dont need to wait for wind to change at all.

Kommentar von mooseyalex

Lessons from when my group did it:

Have only 1 person do it
Getting 4 spears for the first wind phase seems to bug it out, I recommend resetting it.
You can reset the boss by all jumping off the edge at the same time
Demon hunters are the best to do this, thanks glide
you can angle yourself to walk off the edge and not fall too far away, helps with getting the far ones

I hope this helps someone!

Kommentar von fetzili

So we tried this achiv today and it took us really a super lot of time and some years of our life.

Here a summary of what we learned out of all comments and our lot of fails.

1. As recommended, only let one get the spears.
-> When two spears hit the same time, it can get bugged and only count as one
2. The spears appear after she does her run thorugh and annihilation (that kills the angels)
3. She wills start the second phase, even without being on 70% if you take too long
4. The spears despawn after 2 min when you dont pick them up
5. The spears despawn after few second when you dont throw them
6. You get fall dmg after throwing

In 1. Phase:
- Dont let her stand inside her bubble, she get shielded as well and spear hits dont count anymore
- The spear-thrower should have a lot of life or good cds (tank is best)
- The boss may not stand directly under the spear thrower, as she will not be in line of sight

In 2. Phase:
- Wait until the wind helps you blow to farer away spears
- Wait with the throwing until she recently moved, otherwise its highly chance to miss her, but dont wait to long (see 5.)

Good luck!

Kommentar von axhawk

Do NOT panic if you're not getting the damage numbers from hitting her with the spear, and she's not getting the debuff stack for it. We tried over and over because spears kept appearing to fail to register and she wasn't getting the debuff from them. We got fed up and killed her anyway, when 2 had failed to register and she only had 3 of the debuff from the spears (and the achievement tracker was still red), and it still gave us the achievement. So if the thrower is confident they hit her with all 5, go ahead and kill her for credit.

Kommentar von Sipder2

How to get ExSPEERte:

bring the boss to 70% hp
jump off the boss platform
fall and fly towards the blue circle to get a spear
use the spear to hit the boss
after get all blue circles in this phase bring the boss to 40% hp
do the spears again
if you hit the all 5 spears kill the boss

2 or more people doing the spears is the key to make everything easier.
Check the debuff on the boss to know how many spears you've hit.

You do ExSPEERte on the last boss in Spires of Ascension.

Video guide: https://youtu.be/pHFr9mQ_u9Q

Kommentar von ArkealQ

Here is the top tips I got from this (I did this twice, with 2 groups of friends) - some echo other comments here:

1. Have 1 player do it. We saw bugs starting to happen with spears passing through the boss if you do it in quick succession.
2. To reach the back ones - Wait for "Backdraft" to start, as the wind direction will dictate how far you are able to glide .
3. Do 3 spears first - then start next phase and do 2 spears. DO NOT have 4 spears up at once.
4. Hit the boss in the chest. Hitting her in the Crotch / Stomach / Legs / Head will sometimes just plain miss. (we saw spears going through her but dealing no damage)
5. You don't have forever, but once you grab a spear, you have enough time to wait for her to move, and then throw the spear once she stops.
6. If she is on the opposite side of you, when you have one of the back-placed spears, you will not hit. If she is on the far right and you are far back left. Spear will explode before reaching her.
7. Best way to confirm hits was to see the damage numbers.
8. We had 2 healers. 1 tank and 2 ranged dps for burst (I brought my fire-mage) - this is for quickly switching phases to ensure only 3 spears are up.
9. Make sure people leave 1 orb up so you can grab it once all spears have it for the main-fight spear.
10. Final thing is using the shape of the edge of the platform. It is like a reverse "V" shape, do not have movement speed buffs on your character, just drop off, dont jump, you want to be as close to the platform when you fall to ensure you can get enough distance.

Thats it.
She phases at 70% and again at 30%.
First run I did with my first group, we got it after about 15 minutes of trying.
Second run I did, was first done without me in the group for 40 minutes and then I joined and did another 30 minutes before we got it. (Lessons above were learned). Hopefully you get it faster than that second run.
Good luck!

Kommentar von xLunacyx

This still seems buggy. A lot of the time spears would sometimes not register and back spears can still be very difficult to reach as non-demon hunters.
Got it eventually, though.
Also after the 2nd nuke the tank was about to grab a spear too. Tank specs can generally survive the nukes if you want to bring multiples since the nuke only hits for 42-44k.

Kommentar von Zieda

You /can/ get this if you die before the boss does. We had a party member die while we were working on spears, and they got it when we killed the boss.

Kommentar von CovSoul

The fight will reset if there's no player on the platform in phase 1.

So the achievement can still be soloed by collecting/throwing the Spears of Duty during the wind phases – just make sure the spears (blue circles) are already available (in my case I used 3 in first and 2 in second wind phase).

This will prevent the fight from being reset.

Kommentar von hooda100mu

If you are damn sure that you hit the boss and i mean absolutely sure with spear and it didnt registered ,do not get bothered by it as its a bug or something . I reseted 3 times because i hit her and it never registered above 3 and i was damn sure i hit her in all the tries so in the last one before trying my final chance as i was frustrated i read the comments here and someone above me said its a bug so i went for try 4 and this time same i hit her with all 5 but never showed 5 it showed 4 so i thought f it lets kill her and there it was as soon as she died i got the achievement . I Did this solo and boss doesnt reset so you can do it easily just make sure you dont jump before she has started the phase 1 or else she will reset .

Kommentar von dawn22868

I used Instance Achievement Tracker. As others have mentioned, not all of my hits were registered.

At 4/5 (not counting two I had 100% hit) I went ahead and killed the boss and got the achievement.

Kommentar von Kilorelv

You can solo this even if you're in phase one, did it today. You will trigger phase 2 during this due to the damage of spears itself.
The only way to not reset her that i found solo (without waiting on phase 2 -- the air pushing phase) is to stand on the edge and wait for explosion as soon as she starts casting explosion walk off the edge, since she is casting you won't reset the fight! If you wait too long to jump it will reset because she will finish while you're at the bottom and that's what triggers her reset.

Kommentar von Malicone

This is so bugged! I did hit 5 times and still 4x stacks? I could see damage when it hits Devos!

Kommentar von Volleynova

Moderately Difficult Hunter or Pet-class Solo for Level 70 Dragonflight & Beyond...

1) Mythic Difficulty.

A note: The spears of duty you have to hit the boss with for achievement is in the air, not the Archons Spear surrounding by the blue field on the platform, that is just used to bring boss down after the two orb phases.

2) Achievement can be tracked but will likely be incorrect at 4/5 despite 5 spears hitting confidently, and still show a red color.

3) Misdirect to Pet, attack boss.

4) Tell Pet to stay.

5) Jump down over the edge, and grab a spear. Boss will stay on pet for now and won't vanish and reset.

6) There may be more than one spear to grab, when the boss gets aggro on you again, tell your pet to attack the boss, and then feign death, aggro is then back on the pet, jump on down and grab another spear.

7) At 75% boss moves into next phase, which you are free to jump down and grab a spear or two without boss phasing away.

8) When aiming spears at boss, make sure you wait for her to move, then launch the spear, and if you KNOW that you hit the center of boss despite no damage numbers showing, you still have a hit. This happened to me once.

9) Proceed with fight as normal, grab orbs and launch Archon Spear at her to get her back on the ground.

10) Reduce boss health to 25%

11) Next phase begins, rinse & repeat, you are free to jump on down and it will lift you up and you can grab another spear or two.

12) Confidently hit the boss each time until you are sure you have hit her 5 times with the spear.

13) The achievement may not be satisfied, and clicking on the boss may reveal only 4/5 spears have it. However if you are CONFIDENT you hit her with 5 spears despite one spear not showing damage, nuke boss. If not, feign death and repeat.

14) ?

15) Profit. Achievement Completed.

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