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Kommentar von 2OfDiamonds

Idiom Definitions for 'Once bitten, twice shy':

If somebody is said to be once bitten twice shy, it means that someone who has been hurt or who has had something go wrong will be far more careful the next time.

Kommentar von 75498

"Once Bitten and Twice Shy,
I keep my distance,
But you still catch my eye."
Quite obvious reference to a popular song.

Kommentar von Cendrin

"Once Bitten and Twice Shy,
I keep my distance,
But you still catch my eye."
Quite obvious reference to a popular song.

I'm sure it is a song reference.

Rather than "Last Christmas", however, my first thought was "Once Bitten, Twice Shy", by Ian Hunter in the mid-1970s, and later covered by Great White in the late 1980s.

Kommentar von 421349

■Vampiric Bite - Inflicts 12,025 to 13,975 (25-player: 13,875 to 16,125) Physical damage to a target, granting them Essence of the Blood Queen.
1.Essence of the Blood Queen - Increases damage by 100%, and causes attacks to heal the player for 15% of the damage done, as well as cause no threat. Causes Frenzied Bloodthirst after 60 seconds.
■Frenzied Bloodthirst - Causes Uncontrollable Frenzy after 10 (15?) seconds, giving Lana'thel control over the target, unless the player bites a friendly target. Biting another player refreshes the duration of Essence of the Blood Queen to 60 seconds, and also grants the debuff to the bitten player.

im gonna take a guess, and say this is what they mean by being a vampire. that would mean that defeating her as a vampire aint the problem, being a vampire is a good thing, but defeating her without becoming a vampire might be a little bit tricky since your raid needs to have enough dps to kill her before everyone has to bite to refresh their debuff. assuming that you cant bite someone whos already a vampire, that would be cannibalistic :P

other option would be to let some1 get controlled by her, i dont know what level off CC is possible on them, but that could be a option maybe.

Kommentar von Herecius

Obviously an achievement that is not raidwide, but instead tracked at a per-player level, ala http://www.wowhead.com/?achievement=2923

This one seems like a real nutbuster to get from the perspective of (especially ranged) DPS. If you're high DPS, your raid is obviously going to want you to become a vampire for the huge bonus DPS you get... especially if you're high -ranged- DPS, since your damage won't be interrupted when she goes up into the air phase.

On the other hand, it's going to be annoying for healers, because unless they receive the initial vampire debuff from Lana'theil right off the bat, then they'll be last on the priority list to be bitten by infected players, since they receive no benefit from being infected.

Not to mention you'll never finish the fight without becoming a vampire if you just happen to be, say, unlucky, and she always picks you.

Kommentar von 517387

Last Christmas I gave you my heart...

Kommentar von 531591

For clarification, if you die at any point during this fight, whether as a vampire or not, credit for any of the two steps in this achievement will NOT be given.

Kommentar von 447351

In 10-men, you'll be able to have 8 players morphed into vampires before Lana'thel enrage.

1 = > 2 => 4 => 8

The third time, 4 players will bite 4 others, you will be forced to bite some tanks & healers. Since all the DPS will be vampire and won't generate threat, you can bite the MTs.

The boss can be done with 3 healers (we manage to put her at 2,6% with 20s left on enrage timer). Maybe later we'll do it with only 2 healers. But for now, let's say that killing her being a vampire will be not so hard for healer (juste have to change each week) or every one in the raid.

I think killing her without being a vampire will be more difficult, cause obviously since you need DPS to put her down, you cannot aford to loose 100% dammage. On the other hand, healer who don't need that at all will be the first to get the acheivement, than maybe the tanks (the amount of damage done is not what save you 1min on the enrage timer, I think...:)

See ya , and sorry for my poor english grammar, i'm not english ^.^

Kommentar von 307435

haha the first achievement where it pays off to be poor dps

Kommentar von 17037

Much like the other achievements in ICC, this one is buggy (shocking, I know). Just like not getting Full House or I'm On A Boat, you can randomly not get credit for this achievement. Yes, dying negates your chance at getting credit for either part, but we've also had people who have been bitten & lived as well as those who killed the boss without being bitten & lived the entire fight, who got no credit at all.

Kommentar von 106202

Bug fix: Dying during the Blood-Queen Lana'thel encounter will no longer prevent you from gaining Once Bitten, Twice Shy achievement.
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=22748763261&sid=1&pageNo=1#5

However, I died during the encounter after the fix and still did not get credit. This is definitely still bugged.

Kommentar von 604758

for those who dont know :P i think this achievement is called like that to honour the 1970`s singer Ian Hunter who was a co-founder of 1960`s cult band Mot The Hoople the song wasnt that popular but obviously someone in Blizz is a huge fan.

Kommentar von 595917

I died right before the Queen was downed and I have credit for defeating her while not being a vampire.

Maybe there was a small error or something. But that's my two cents :b

Kommentar von 7577

I died early on in the fight after having been bitten. When we defeated her, I got credit for defeating her without becoming a vampire.

It's possible they've improved the code with this latest release.

Kommentar von 38777

To the contrary ChaosD. I do very good DPS/Damage on my Shadow Priest (#1 on this fight last week) and got this achievement. I just healed it on my Discipline Priest (no bite )on another week when we switched up assignments to add some variety to our runs.

Kommentar von 831098

Is it possibel, now, to get all 10 raid members bitten before she enrages ?

Kommentar von 462946

Wow, I got the without being a Vampire, 10 man, I still need to be a Vamp to get achievement. went last night with a friend and all he needed was 4 and I needed this and 5 others, and could have gotten it last night. As he got his couple I had already, and all he needed was one more at same fight with vamp and Orb Whisperer...came my turn to be vamp and get that one...etc. WELL, he used me, promised the other members a PUG! that if they went, he'd promised them to be vamps, and as he tells me RIGHT BEFORE the fight....(and being #1 DPS which i could care less about, he did though....) and we were a full 10 man 85 group, I helped him get his achievement, put him on ignore and left group....Sad that WoW has...become...this.

Kommentar von Wazdakka

Just FYI, she casts vampire bite on a very slow timer. either that, or the death of the bitten member increases the timer, as our Mage died today about 1,30 into debuff, and we never got debuff again for the rest of the fight - fight took under 5 mins, because we were 85s, but just a heads up.

Note: vampire bite is my way of saying applying the debuff.

Kommentar von RichardA

Like a comment in the 25 man achiev said, You pretty much have to pay people to bite you when you pug since we are so past ICC now that only about two people get bit. It has switched from wanting to not be bitten to wanting to be bitten, at least for my server.

Kommentar von vexis58

Two-manned this as a 90 blood DK and windwalker monk.

Did the first half in normal mode, and the DK got bitten while the monk got the half for not being bitten.

Did the second half on heroic mode with the monk tanking at first, and the DK taunted off as soon as the monk was bitten. Once the monk turned into a vampire, she didn't want to bite the DK so that he would get the achievement for NOT getting bitten, so she spent the rest of the fight mind-controlled as the DK brought the boss down the rest of the way. Both characters got the achievement at this point.

Kommentar von exen

For those trying to solo this and game the bite into a null target, she does it 20s after the fight starts, handy to use the in-game stopwatch to be ready for it.

Easily avoided the bite as a priest, shadowfiend>fade>spectral guise.

Kommentar von 972703

For those of us who need both parts, to be and not to be bitten, is it possible to do one of each of part of the achievement on separate characters? Say i got bit on one character but i wanted to run through again w/o getting bit on another. would the achievement pop after the second run through or will i have to wait a week and get the 2nd part with the character i did the first part on?

I ask because no-one on my server seems to know.

Kommentar von MarkusF

As a hunter this is very easy to get. As Night Elve non-hunters with pets, a bit harder but still possible.

1) The bitten part is as all classes do: save cooldowns, get bitten, pop all cooldowns and nuke

2) the not bitten is even easier: activate stopwatch before pulling, wait until around 17 secdonds, fake death, wait untill pet gets bitten, stand up and dps here down while watching youtube on a second screen :)

Someone below said 20 seconds in relation to Night Elves racial Shadowmeld, but in my case it was 18 seconds, when she bit me. Because I messed up the first pull (thinking it would be 20 secs), I had two attempts and both were 18 seconds sharp. Perhaps it depends on latency or it was just changed as a side effect a patch or so?

Anyway, for hunters with FD it should be no problem if it is a few seconds later as FD does not break on damage unlike Shadowmeld. But Shadowmeld with some more precise timing should get it done as suggested below.

Kommentar von jd234

The "while a vampire" part is easily soloed now.

The "without becoming a vampire" part is less easy. As a kitty elf druid I respecced for the "Force of Nature" talent. Just before she casts bite, summon out a treant, shadowmeld, wait till she bites your treant. Then burn her. I imagine a trinket pet might also work. Not sure.

Kommentar von DarkDei7

It took me 20 tries,then I understood.
YES, You can solo this achievement ,it will take 2 weeks but you CAN do it(at least,most classes can).

So the bitten part is very very easy,just pull the boss and dps him,whenever you get the 2min debuff nuke her down.

The NOT bitten part is more complex,and you will need a Pet(Mindcontrolled/Enslaved unit or a copy of yourself) :
Pull the boss,wait around 15 sec then be sure your mirror image,your shammy/mage elemental or whatever has aggro while you stand on the boss wall (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdAWJ-RQ_RI&list=UU6QXu3btVyS9R6woUtncTVw&index=1 this video shows you where to stand in the pulling phase).Whenever your unit gets bitten (around 16-22 sec to happen) just nuke her down,as long as she's not gonna bite anyone again.

Have fun with this trick and ask in the comments if something is unclear.
Enjoy :)

Kommentar von Wheeljack

Recently did this achievement with a couple of friends for the mount.
Like others have posted before me, the "while a vampire" part isn't all that hard. Just fight normally and make sure everyone that needs to be a vampire gets bitten.

The other one, took us a few attempts to figure out. It seems that the Queen will more than often bite the player that is lowest on her aggro-table first. (unconfirmed, but at least that worked for us). After I had been bitten first for the third time (I still lacked that bit) one of the other players didn't do anything at all but just slightly tickle the boss. Lo and behold, that player was the first to get bitten, and after that we just DPS'ed her down.

Kommentar von Cailech

5/11/2014 patch 6.0.3

Just solo'd this on my retribution paladin. Used Divine Shield just before she tried to bite me and I didn't get turned into a vampire. Then I just damaged her down and she didn't try to bite me again. Don't worry about your dps, I'm 482 ilevel, so...

Good luck!

Kommentar von 862065

Alright! So here's how to solo this achievement as a mage!

Required Talents: Mirror Image

Optional Talents: Greater Invisibility (This just makes it easier if your timing is a bit late.)

You're gonna want to get your stopwatch ready. As SOON as you engage, start your stopwatch. She bites around 15 seconds in.

Once your timer hits around 12 seconds. Pop Mirror Image then invisibility. If you time it correctly, she will bite one of your mirrors. After she has bitten, pop all cool downs and burn her down as fast as possible.

Kommentar von jemaris

I got this achievement solo just now. I have feral druid.

I already had the 'not bitten' part of the achievement so wanted to be bitten. Died twice while bitten myself so after reading the Mage mirror image post (thank you for that, upvoted - purely for putting the treants idea in my head). I wondered if I could use the talent Force of Nature. So I changed my tier 4 talent to that.

I kept popping them whenever off cooldown. I didn't actually notice them bitten and just wanted to finish ICC Hc10, so decided to kill her before I got bitten myself & hey Presto! Achievement done, so I can only assume that one of my treants 'DID' get bitten & it counted as if I was.

Happy days. Try it Druids & let us know how you get on.

:)

Kommentar von 1396208

Just did this as a shadow priest in 6.0.3. The "without getting bitten" part is, as always, the harder one. You need to use Spektralerscheinung. I used DBM to predict when she would bite you. It was quite finicky, but I found it worked best not to use Spectral Guise until the exact moment that she bites. If you do it too early, your image despawns and you get bitten anyway.

Kommentar von Mark17

I've managed to get this achievement solo with my Mönch. Engage her only using Xuen den Weißen Tiger beschwören and go really far from her. After she bittes your pet, you can smash her down.
Don't forget to put your spirit Transzendenz outside of her room just in case you need to reset.

Kommentar von 494651

Got the "without being a vampire" part on 10 man version (I assume the 25 man would work too) as a level 90 hunter at ilvl 469 using an *unusual* strat.

Basically, get your tanking pet out and set it to attack the boss, but YOU the hunter do absolutely NOTHING. Don't even auto-attack. Just stand there. Let your pet attack. Spirit Bond heals more than enough to keep you and your pet up, and once she's around 10%-ish, just hit Kill Shot a couple times and there you go.

It takes a few minutes, but seems to work well.

Kommentar von Fancyspoon

I'm a bit confused on how to get this achievement. I'm a prot pally soloing this dungeon, and I can DPS her down in about 7 seconds, but I still get bitten and don't get the achievement. Is there something I'm missing?

Kommentar von Xaruman

Easy to do as pally. For the non bitten part just pop bubble 13 seconds into the fight and finish her off.

Kommentar von 963630

Sorry but these comments are really terrible;

Essence of the Blood Queen = you're a vampire

kill her without getting this debuff = you beat her without becoming a vampire
kill her after getting this debuff once = you beat her after becoming a vampire

to be clear you have to kill her TWICE to get the achievement

Kommentar von Tisina

Solo as SP (ilvl = 702) is quite easy, just use yr shadowfiend after engaging, use fade, so yr shadowfiend has the aggro. It gets bitten at 15sec and you will stay clean. Nuke her down.
After reset wednesday I will let myself be bitten and get the mount due to it.

Kommentar von ThunderZtormDK

Easily burned her down before she bit as ilvl 835 warlock. I'd say any decently geared 110 should be able to do that.

Kommentar von Gundrek

Just found out the hard way, if you just one shot her before starting any combat, you don't get credit for killing her without bitten. I don't know if that's been mentioned yet but it is a thing to keep in mind. QQ

Kommentar von stownshend

Be careful completing this achievement as 110+. If you one shot her at the start of the fight you won't get credit for killing her without becoming a vampire - you have to let her engage you for a few seconds.

Found out the hard way tonight - have to wait another week for my mount.

Kommentar von danicadb1

I would suggest going in there, by yourself, no pet, hit her with your weapon, about 15-20 sec. in, you will get the essence of the blood queen, up in the corner, as soon as you see it, kill her, that is what I did; I am going in as a 110, so didn't have to worry about it. I already had without being bitten.

Kommentar von Contmotore

Make sure you don't one shot her, you won't get the achieve. You need to be in a fight with her for at least a sec. or so.

Kommentar von redback

Here is how I did it as a 120 enhancement shaman without getting bitten

1. Pull with Wind Shear
2. Cast Earth Elemental
3. Wait 20-30 seconds
4. Punch boss in face.

Kommentar von nmybarbo

I guess you can't solo this when trying to get this as a vampire? I die when I become a vampire.

Kommentar von djsp

For this achievement, you must defeat Lana'thel at least twice: once having been transformed into a vampire, and once not having been transformed. Whether she dies while you are transformed or after you have recovered your normal form does not matter; it only matters whether you have been transformed at all during the fight.

Defeating Lana'thel without having been transformed into a vampire is easy enough at this point, as any player at maximum level has enough DPS to bring her down quickly. You can solo this part.

Defeating Lana'thel having been transformed, on the other hand, is tricky to do by yourself, because you cannot attack her while you're transformed and you die when your vampiric form expires, since you don't have any other player around to bite and transfer it to. To solo this part, you must apply a DoT on her that will kill her within the duration of your vampiric form (8 seconds), that is, after you have been transformed, but before you die. With a Death Knight, I did this using Heulende Böe.

Lana'thel transforms you into a vampire after Essenz der Blutkönigin expires. First bring her down to half her health or so, then wait for the mentioned effect to near its end and apply your DoT of death before she transforms you.

Kommentar von Dervacus

Solo Guide for Over-Powered or Level Cap Characters of Any Class & Specialization:

Defeat Blood-Queen Lana'thel once as a vampire and again without becoming a vampire in 10-player mode.

Criteria

Defeat Blood-Queen Lana'thel without becoming a vampire slain

How To:
Defeat her within 15 seconds. One-shotting may not give you credit. Walk into her to engage combat or start with a weak attack

Defeat Blood-Queen Lana'thel while a vampire slain

How To:
Wait about 15 seconds to pick up the Essence of the Blood Queen debuff. You are now a vampire, kill away

Notes:

You will not be able to meet both criteria within the same week. Icecrown Citadel will lock for the week on whatever difficulty setting you start it at
You can do this on any difficulty as long as it is 10-player mode. If you are going for the Glory of the Icecrown Raider (10 player) meta achievement I would recommend doing it on Heroic
Both criteria must be done on the the same character to accomplish the achievement

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Gebrannter Vampir scheut das Feuer (10 Spieler)

Bezwingt Blutkönigin Lana'thel im 10-Spieler-Modus, sowohl als Vampir als auch, ohne zum Vampir zu werden.

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	Bezwingt Blutkönigin Lana'thel ohne zum Vampir zu werden getötet (1)

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/way Die Eiskronenzitadelle 51.1 43.5 Bezwingt Blutkönigin Lana'thel während Ihr ein Vampir seid (Blutkönigin Lana'thel)

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