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Kommentar von 613928

Der Schamane ist ja noch recht einfach, warten bis er seine Flammenwelle gecastet hat und ihn dann dort positionieren. Nach ein paar Sekunden explodiert diese und er stirbt durch den Schaden.

Beim Hunter siehts schon etwas schwieriger aus, da nur gefühlte 5-10% der Mobs den Wilder Beschuss überhaupt erst auspacken. Falls ihr einen erwischt, gibt es mehrere Möglichkeiten den Teil des Erfolges zu erfüllen.

Ihr unterbrecht den Cast. Hierzu zählen nur Stuns und oder Fear, Tritt, Zuschlagen oder ähnliches funktioniert nicht. Wenn ihr es schafft das er im Stun stirbt, ist der Teil erfüllt.
Benutzt einen Hurtigkeitstrank oder ähnliche Klassenfähigkeiten wie Sprinten sobald er seine Fähigkeit benutzt. Außer Sicht laufen ist ebenfalls sehr hilfreich.

Bei der Schildwache könnt ihr euch, wie es die Beschreibung des Erfolgs vermuten lässt, ein Gruppenmitglied holen und diese Quest zu zweit machen.
Falls ihr eine Klasse spielen solltet, die keine Begleiter mit sich bringt oder kein Glück bei der Gruppensuche habt, könnt ihr euch mit folgendem Trick behelfen. Die Schildwache wird sich jede Art von Begleiter nehmen, die imstande sind Schaden zu verursachen. Wie zum Beispiel Abzeichen des Kommandanten oder Bedienstetenglöckchen der Barovs. Ich empfehle den Talisman eines Grunzers aus Baradin für die Horde oder Erkennungsmarke eines Fußsoldaten aus Baradin für die Allianz da der Cooldown zum erneuten rufen nur 6 Minuten beträgt. Haut die Schildwache ein bißchen an, ruft euren Begleiter und mit ein bißchen Glück nimmt er sich diesen und rennt in die Lava. Ihr habt je nach Laufweg der Schildwache ca 5-10 Sekunden Zeit diese zu töten. Erfolg erfüllt.
Falls ihr es schaffen solltet, den Erfolg innerhalb von 2 Stunden nach Kauf des Schmuckstückes zu erreichen, könnt ihr dieses sogar wieder gegen die Marken umtauschen.

Kommentar von Mirco1502

Überlebt eine Salve 'Wilder Beschuss' eines Jägers der Flammenschürer, ohne getroffen zu werden.

Der meiner Meinung nach schwierigste Teil des Erfolgs und hier eine kleine Anleitung wie man ihn auf lvl 100 & höher schaffen kann:

Ich habe über Wochen versucht diese dämlichen Jäger der Flammenschürer dazu zu bringen Wilder Beschuss zu casten. Ohne Erfolg.

Und ich habe wirklich Alles ausprobiert:

- Den Hund des Jägers am Leben lassen
- Alle anderen Flammenschürer um den Jäger herum zu töten
- Den Jäger in die Lava ziehen
- Mehrere Jäger gleichzeitig anzugreifen
- Bla bla bla ...

Was sich letzten Endes als Richtig herrausgestellt hat:

1. Die Jäger der Flammenschürer haben nicht Alle diese Fähigkeit.
2. Die Jäger der Flammenschürer müssen dafür in der Nähe der Lava stehen.

Soweit so gut. Der entscheidene Hinweis kam aber letzten Endes von einem Gamemaster:

3. Die Jäger der Flammenschürer casten die Attacke NUR wenn sie VERLETZT sind.

Aber wie verletzt man als lvl 100 Spieler einen Mob der gerade mal 7000 Leben hat? Da reicht ein kurzer Niesreiz und der Junge fällt tot um.

Und auch hier war der freundliche Gamemaster mit einem Trick zur Stelle:

Das Zauberwort heißt: Goblindrachengewehr - Nr. II

Es muss von Ingenieuren hergestellt werden, kann aber jeder benutzen. Und es tötet die Mobs nicht, sondern bringt sie nur akkurat auf ca. 50% HP. Und es hat nach Wochen endlich geklappt. Der dritte Jäger, dessen Hund ich getötet und dann in die nähe von Lava gelockt hatte, fing dann auch schon sofort an auszurasten, kaum das ich ihn mit dem Goblindrachengewehr - Nr. II geärgert habe.

Ein unendliches Hochgefühl endlich den Erfolg geschafft zu haben.

Ich hoffe dieser kleine Trick hilft euch ebenfalls. Und denkt dran: Solltet ihr von Wilder Beschuss plötzlich überrascht und getroffen werden, lauft einfach weg und resetet den Mob. Das ist einfacher als den nächsten zu suchen.

Viel Erfolg.

Kommentar von Boxofbeer

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Kommentar von 251330

From my experience, not all the Flamewalkers in the Molten Flow will use the respective abilities. I have only seen one Shaman use Flameweave, and two Hunters use Wild Barrage. I have never been in a party doing these quests so I haven't checked about the Sentinels.

For Flameweave, the Shaman will simply place a patch of fire on the ground. Back up and move the Shaman into it to get credit.

For Wild Barrage, the Hunter will channel the ability for a bit, causing small black shadows to appear on the ground. You have a very short time to move out of the way before a spear lands there. The lightning of the cave can make it difficult to see some spots, so make sure you have your Brightness maxed.

Kommentar von 835577

Zzeke is right about not every flamewalker having the ability, maybe you will have to go through multiple mobs before you get to one with a special ability. If a flamewalker doesnt use the ''special'' 5-10 seconds into the fight, the flamewalker does not have a special ability

Shaman
The Flameweave from the shaman is the most easy one, you simply let the shaman cast the spell on you which is a patch of fire on the ground. Simply get the shaman to stand in it, then kill it.

Hunter
The wild barrage one from the hunter is more difficult.
The hunter anticipates where u will run, so if u for example strafe to the left the whole time, he will throw a spear exactly on the spot where you are running to. To counter this you need to keep turning and be unpredictable. Immunities like Iceblock don't work, you need to avoid every single spear. A small round shadow on the ground will indicate where the spear is gonna land, he throws alot of them during the cast. Also don't kill him while he's casting the special ability or it wont work.

Sentinel
The sentinel one is easy. The sentinel will pick up the person with the highest threat (as far as i've seen) and will walk slowly to the lava. During the time he's carying a person, the other partymember needs to kill it. The person being grabbed will not get the achievement.

Kommentar von 434395

An added note for the Sentinel:

I was able to solo this achievement by killing one while it was making off with my Felguard.

Kommentar von 507760

Currently without completing Druiden der Kralle, there's a way to these mobs. You can hug the left side of the path covered in fire and sneak where the covered up hole is. Then die by the hole in the fire, run back, and you'll fall through; make sure you accept the resurrection quickly because you're falling, though.

Kommentar von nightmareic

As a DK:

Sentinel: Let your pet grab aggro, heal it if necessary with death coil and wait until it picks you or the pet up. Should be easily killable then.

Shaman: Easy, just wait for him to cast Flamewave, get him low health, AMS and pull him into the flames (don't use diseases and put your pet on passive).

Hunter: Wait for him to cast Wild Barrage and pop a speed increase and start strafing in all different directions. I used my nitro boost and ran around.

As mentioned above, if they dont do their abilities within a few seconds of pulling them, just kill them.

Kommentar von sdkphoenix

I used my Commander's Badge on the Sentinel and he picked up the Netherwing Ally. Got credit. So I guess trinkets that summon things to help will work.

Kommentar von Exorsist

To get past the flames, hug the left side and you will be fine. Once on top of The Furnace, ask you friendly warlock/priest to fear you and you will fall straight through. Make you don't jump in that area where you land, as it will throw you back out.

I just finished this achievement on Live.
Shamans - get them on low hp without any dots on them and wait for them to spawn a puddle of fire which will dmg you and them.
Hunters - CC / nuke / slow the dog and wait for the hunter to channel his barrage. Stay at a max range to maximize the fly distance for the spears. Keep running even before you aggro and move in random directions.
Sentinel - In the first 10 sec you will know if he will grab someone or not. I just did this by capping one of the sentinels and then a random mage (not in my group) overaggroed, got picked up and I killed (killing blow) the sentinel. I got the credit.

EDIT: Some of the mobs are yellow skinned, others are dark skinned, that however does not make a difference whether they have their special abilities or not.

Kommentar von Mydge

From a druid's point of view.

Shaman - easiest. Just drag and drop onto fire as described above.

Sentinel - solo. Difficult. Barov Peasant Caller was kind of useless. I tried my Argent War Horn and it worked a treat, though I dont know if that was just luck.

Hunter - firstly I'd like to clarify that "Throw" is different to "Wild Barrage". Second, even though I was off dots I still got caned, so if you have bad latency this = difficult. Speed boost highly recommended. I still haven't got this, I'm just attempting to beat the crap out of every hunter and strike lucky.

Kommentar von dieb1tch

They all do their special abilities in the first 5 seconds. If they don't - kill them.

Don't forget to loot them so they'll respawn faster.

Kommentar von 708141

I have just soloed this on my mage, and just wanted to add that mirror images can be picked up for the Sentinel part of the achievement, took four tries, but worked in the end.

Kommentar von Ronhan

For the sentinel part as a hunter, use snake trap, I did it at first try :)

Kommentar von 676707

If you want to complete the sentinel part quickly, you must first understand he grabs an ally to bring them into lava, he will hold them indefinitely while standing in the lava. The best place to get the sentinel to do this is at the bottom of the area in the round part. The lava is easily accessed down there and they almost always do that ability. If they can't walk into the lava they won't grab anyone.

Kommentar von JohnStalvern

If you're having trouble getting the Hunters to use Wild Barrage, bring a priest with you, duel them and have them force the Hunter to use it (And then don't fail it, of course). Some of them just do not know the ability though, so keep trying till you find it.

Kommentar von 835577

For the hunter I suggest you strafe left and right all the time.

Kommentar von loramis

Have any paladins had luck getting their Guardian to be picked up by a Sentinel?

Kommentar von 843306

Moonkins can use their treants for the sentinel portion. It took me several tries before one of them got picked up, but worked in the end. Just pop treants and let them do all the damage until one gets picked up, then nuke the sentinel.

For easiest results, be standing right at the closest edge before the lava and have a set of 3 mushrooms sitting right under the sentinel. As soon as it picks up a treant, detonate, dot it up, knock it back with typhoon and nuke.

Kommentar von whoopiecushion68

Here are some important tidbits:

Each mob has a random chance of having the special ability.
In our experience, the shamans seemed to have the special ability the most often, sentinels the second most often, and somewhere around a one in twenty chance of a hunter having it.
The mobs tend to cast the special ability rather quickly after entering content. Within 10 seconds or so, they cast it.
The special ability is hard-baked into each individual spawn. This means that it is possible to reset a mob you have found to have it, even after screwing up the achievement first time. After the mob resets, you can attempt to complete the particular feat again. This is especially useful against the hunters, as mobs with the ability are very rare and the feat is somewhat difficult to complete.

Summation: if you &*!@ up on the hunter ability, you can reset him and do it again.

Kommentar von 242065

If you fail with the special ability you can always reset the mob instead of killing it and searching new one.

Kommentar von Cupcakee

Here's a simple pally strat since we have limited speed boosters:

Aggro
Wait for Wild Barrage
Judgement (go go weak speed boost!)
Bubble (Charhound can't daze you)
Alternate between strafing/running to create the unpredictable pattern a previous poster mentioned.
Win

Kommentar von 174773

as an engineering hunter killing the hunter, i popped nitro belt and ran in a zig zag. when that wore off, i cloak/disengaged and it was all done by then.

Kommentar von 697659

As a shaman, the Sentinels can grab your Searing Totem, but it took me over an hour for me to finally succeed.

Some say they hold it indefinitely, and that isn't the case, at least for Searing Totems, so try to reach an appropriate level of health where you can zerg it down before the Totem likely dies. The alternative is to try using your Feral Spirits every 3 minutes.

Also give it about 20 seconds to grab your Totem. I tried putting my Totem directly next to the Sentinel, hopefully encouraging it to grab it, lol.

Kommentar von Crazyrussian

Just did this on my Retribution paladin. Few notes

1. I found the hunters to be really rare, and have a long respawn timer, so what I did was find 1 and reset him if he didn't have the ability, repeat this until he does.

2. I used the run left then right then left.. method, soon as you see a shadow of the spear ahead of your char, run the other way.

Kommentar von Ice83085

Hex works great to interrupt the hunters.
So far ghostwolfs dont get picked up by Sentinels. But still trying

Kommentar von Alerax

Me (shadow priest) and friend (warrior) decided to get these achievements together.

We tryed multiple things, with speed buffs etc. But this worked the best for us:

As soon as the hunter was starting to shoot his barrage I used Psychisches Entsetzen. When the fear was about to expire he used his Drohruf. It lasts for about the duration of the barrage.
In this case you will only have to dodge the arrows that he might fire at you before you interrupt it.

First time I got the criteria for the achievement. Followed by him.
I would like to note, that the person who holds aggro on the hunter gets the criteria.

It will probably work with some other CC-abilities as well. But I can only confirm it for this way.

Kommentar von hjp426

Did they hotfix the whole rez-while-falling-down-the-hole thing? Worked yesterday, but I've tried 5 times now, and it doesn't work anymore...

Kommentar von Lillithus

I've been asked on numerous occassions how do you find the mobs.

To get to The Furnace:

1. Hug the left side of the path of flames heading up to The Furnace.
2. Once there, you won't be able to get in as a solid form. Die to the flames.
3. Run back to your body, click Accept as you fall down through the hole.
4. Normally you won't survive the drop (unless you're a DK with a Path of Frost glyph). Run back to your body again and accept once you're down in The Furnace.
5. Enjoy the depths. To get back out, there is a vent of steam you can stand in to shoot you back up.

Kommentar von 696346

The hunter one is incredibly easy - he throws spears in the direction you're walking towards, so just spin around in a tiny circle. You're guaranteed not to get hit by a single spear.

Kommentar von Mortimer

Decided to give this achievement a try today. Didn't seem to hard when reading about it but at the moment it seems to be bugged, at least for me and a friend of mine. After one hour of killing Shamans with their own Flamewave (tried with both avoiding and getting hit by the flamewaves ourselves), Sentinels while the other person is being carried and Hunters without taking damage from their Wild Barrage, neither one of us have managed to get credit for any one of them. We tried the Shamans and Hunters while not being in a party too but it didn't make any difference. The only thing we've managed so far is getting stucked in the lava twice while being carried by Sentinels...
Do you have to have the quests down there to be able to get this achievement or are we missing some vital detail as to how this is done?

Kommentar von ropiv

Here's a little clarification on when you fall through the hole in corpse form.

As soon as your corpse is over the hole, it will fall immediately. When it does, you only have about 1 second to accept the ressurection before you fall too far away from your body.

Of course, this means you have to resurrect while still a long ways off the ground. If you can't slow your fall, you will die again -- but there's no other way around that. As a pally, I just popped the bubble.

If you are too slow on clicking Yes to ressurect when you start falling, you'll simply land at the bottom in ghost form. Then you click Return to Graveyard, run back, and try it again. No biggie, but I would have preferred to have only had to run back once.

If anyone isn't sure what the hole looks like (which is currently closed), I'm in the process of posting a screenshot of that.

Have fun down there!

Kommentar von eiki

Ok, about the sentinel:

I've done quite a bit of testing (over 30mins) with a friend of mine, a mage (I'm a feral druid). Here is what we discovered:

- Not all sentinels have the ability to pick up someone
- If the sentinel has the ability, he has to be in proximity of 'reachable' lava to do it
- the sentinel WILL NOT grab the person with the highest threat, he will randomly pick anyone in melee range
- summonable pets (from trinkets) that can be targetted can be picked (tested using Argent War Horn), water elemental was also picked

happy hunting! :D

Kommentar von 260867

The hunter was my biggest problem, me and a buddy had been killing hunters straight for 20m with no luck on the 3 barrage's they hit us with. Until i was able to figure out how to get one hunter to barrage 8 times in a row, feigning (as a hunter) after each barrage.

What i did was put on aspect of the fox, steady shot, and strafe back and forth without stopping, it somehow triggers his barrage and you keep strafing to avoid it. If i got hit, i would feign, and do it again, and i got the hunter to do it 8 times in a row.

Goodluck!

Kommentar von Asmongold

Video on how to get into the molten front--

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1KUZdZfG6E

Kommentar von uriahworld

Shaman/Flamewave: Group Credit is shared for the Shaman.
Sentinel/Pick-up: Group Credit is shared for everyone that is NOT picked up by the Sentinel. So do this twice if in a group and have others be in melee/have aggro.
Hunter/Wild Barrage: There is no Group Credit for Avoiding the Barrage it seems. Only the person (one person reguardless of group) who had aggro gets credit for the achievement on that one. So I would recommend a solo on the Hunter part.

Other notes: Be at max range for hunters preferred - You can use the Air Vent things to help avoid barrage but it's not really needed if you have the proper distance.

Kommentar von Darkicon

I've noticed the mobs that use the abilities are the gray ones, similar in appearance to Executus rather than the orange colored ones.

Best way I've found to get the Wild Barrage one is, to LoS the Flamewalker Hunter in the Charhounds' cave when he uses Wild Barrage (Don't forget to first clear the cave out). Simply wait for him to start channeling it and run out and LoS him with the cave wall. The arrows seem to abide by LoS rules.

Kommentar von Valder

Keep in mind that you yourself do now count as a party member, so if you happen to kill them while grabbed (warriors can whirlwind while held) it will NOT count towards the achievement.

Kommentar von Illantha

I had luck dodging the hunter's wild barrage as a melee by running a circle around him at about 10 yards out - close enough I could still hit and attack him, but I was barely able to outrun the barrage. Think like Glubtok's (Deadmines) fire wall, except moving at a regular pace clockwise or counter clockwise. Hopefully this will help the melee classes attempting to finish this achievement off.

And, I saw this a lot of my server. If you want the sentinel to hoist someone, you have to fight it REALLY near to the lava pool. It will not do its ability otherwise, for the most part. The DK's Army of the Dead and Raise Dead pets DO count for the lava bath, so it seems like any class with a summonable "attack" pet can solo the sentinel part of this achievement while some might need aid.

Kommentar von 711919

I've been having some trouble with the sentinel part. I summon my goul and let my ghoul attack the sentinel, but when the sentinel grabs my ghoul and i start to attack it, when i have aggro he drops my ghoul and attacks me before he jumps in the lava and i don't get credit when i kill the sentinel, is anyone else having this problem?

EDIT: I got the achievement, i let the sentinel walk towards the lava while he was holding my ghoul and thankfully he didn't drop my ghoul when i got aggro, he just swam in the lava like he was supposed to

Kommentar von 623616

Sentinels: Shaman Earth elementals work too. Took a few Sentinels to get them to carry it, but finally got it.

Hunters, easy if you have a cc like Hex, sure sheep would work too. Kill the dog. Then stand as far away as you can then break the cc, if the Hunter starts casting Barrage, run away, also look at the ground there will be shadows were you don't want to stand in.

Kommentar von 695972

A tip for the hunters that seemed to work a lot better than killing until you find one that will barrage you (at least for rogues).

First Sap the hunter and kill the dog.
Get a good distance between you and the hunter, and then use your throwing weapon.
Right after that cast Smoke Bomb and wait, he will start to cast throw, but will stop (of course).
I found after that, a lot of times they would then cast Wild Barrage, at least much more often then just killing them at random.

Also, I've found that if you go to that first pillar past Thisalee Crow and run around that (with sprint if you're a rogue), then it makes things much easier.

Without smoke bomb, I can only think an interrupt might work as well. Hope this helps someone.

Kommentar von xSylvane

I had the same problem. I didn't get credit until I did /reload, as suggested by mateodefuego. After that I was able to get credit just fine.

Kommentar von Baskil

As a ret pally, I was getting really frustrated that I couldn't avoid the Wild Barrage. But I figured out that for pallys, all you have to do is use Repentence and don't attack the hunter for the casting time of the barrage. That easy :) Hope I helped somebody

Kommentar von IMissThottbot

Fair warning: if you get too close to Thisalee Crow, she will "help" you--killing the mob and potentially ruining any achievements in progress. If you finally get a Hunter that casts Wild Barrage, for example, stay away from her!

Kommentar von trelliema

This achievement is most likely the most annoying and time consuming (beyond the meta involved in getting all the marks and recruiting everyone) of the Fireland's daily achievements. It took nearly an hour and a half to get all three parts done, and I was the only person in the cave. Given that it took at most two minutes to clear out everything as a hunter, I cannot imagine what it will be like once people have opened up the daily associated with this area. With the extremely low spawn of hunters compared to Sentinels and Shamans, I imagine this achievement will become remarkably difficult in two days where people have enough marks to get in the the area legitimately. I, for one, am glad I bit the bullet and did it ahead of time.

Kommentar von Makhunty

Just got this. As others have mentioned they don't always cast their spells. My experience has been 3/10 mobs casting their respective spells. So patience is required.

Thought I'd chime in my experience:-

1.) Shaman. This mob when it casts Flamewave. It must die by damage done with that spell. I *might be wrong* here but I came across 3 shamans who I killed with my kill shot when they were under the debuff but I did not receive credit till I let it die from its own spell.

2.) Sentinel. For Classes with pets, Just let your minion at it and watch the threat. Nuke as soon as the Sentinel picks up your pet.

3.) Hunter. Most obnoxious and hard. Keep in mind that you must let the hunter finish casting Wild barrage when it does cast it. Killing the Hunter mob before the cast finishes will not award credit even if you managed to dodge all of the arrows.

Hope that helps :).

Kommentar von 796963

By adsertif (1·5) 9 days ago (Patch 4.2.0)
Currently without completing Druids of the Talon, there's a way to these mobs. You can hug the left side of the path covered in fire and sneak where the covered up hole is. Then die by the hole in the fire, run back, and you'll fall through; make sure you accept the resurrection quickly because you're falling, though.

One more thing you can do to enter the hole......i did with a friend as i am a mage ofcourse.

Duel with your friend and CC him.....just make him sheep....he will fall into it.

Same did with other 2 friends one of them was a Lock...so easy case...with summons!

Kommentar von Catperson

From what I can tell, it is true that not all of the creatures use all of their abilities.

However, it should be noted that anyone with any kind of pet can solo the Sentinel portion. I actually got someone to help me out, thinking I needed 2 people, but when someone finally got picked up it ended up choosing my water elemental. I'm not exactly sure how it determines who to pick up... but it works.

Kommentar von 853355

Regarding the barrage from the Flamewalker hunter's i found the easiest way was to jump up on a rock using a thermal vent. pull the hunter, dont kill the dog, but watch out so they dont evade and hope they cast it. just keep moving around the cave until you find one that will. the first one that did gave me the achievement, i ran out of Los on the rock and nothing could hit me. I had my mirror images out at the time so Nextgener may be on to something with it being an AoE ability.

Kommentar von 292162

I found on the Hunter's Wild Barrage, that just holding the Up-Arrow and either Left or Right arrow on your Keyboard causes you to dodge all the Spears, 100% of the time, so long as you're moving like this before the cast starts.

You'll look like an idiot to other people, for Keyboard turning, but at least you'll get the Meta with little effort.

Kommentar von Malvenue

I can now confirm Mirror Images work as valid Sentinel targets. It just gets old waiting for the cooldown to find a Sentinel that will use the ability.

Kommentar von 853542

Got the hunter component in an unusual way just a bit ago.
Aggroed him, let him start casting Wild Barrage, then jumped in an air vent but hit it at an awkward angle. I went around the side of a stone pillar and broke LOS with the hunter. He stopped channeling and I got credit.

Kommentar von 412874

Wow, what an annoying achievement, but at least it had some technique and uniqueness to it. I found a lot of misleading information here, so just giving my take.

Most Important - Not everyone Flamewaker has the abilities needed to get the achievement (Flamewave, Barrage, Grab). Some mobs do not have ability at all and you will have to end up killing them. I waited up to 5 minutes on some mobs with out them casting their special ability at all. Disengaging and reengaging mobs does not reset them and give you a chance at a mob with the ability, so just kill them to respawn a new one.

1) Shaman - He will cast Flamewave with in 5 seconds if he has it. Probably best to kill him on his 2nd Flamewave that he will cast with in 10 seconds. Just back up a little and let the Shaman walk into it. Make sure not to DOT him or you will kill him and make sure to get him low or the Flamewave won't kill him. I though I killed several in the Flamewave but didn't get credit for them. Either a DOT was killing them or the fireball at the end of the Flamewave was, which I assume doesn't give you credit. So get him low, don't DOT him and back up a little.

2) Sentinel - He will usually cast is Grab ability with in 5-10 seconds didn't see cast after that, so assumed they didn't have ability. I noticed the probability that they will grab will go up if you are in a group. Tried to solo with companions trinkets like Rhea's Last Egg and Defender of the Timbermaw, but usually the Sentinel wouldn't grab them, they would die quickly or despawn or he would still grab me instead of them. I would suggest asking in chat for someone to group with to get achievement. I finally did this and we both got it with first 2 Sentinels we tried. He does seem to grab party member with highest aggro, but can't confirm. So get in a party, take turns getting aggro and kill him.

3) Hunter - He will usually cast Barrage a little later than other mobs after he is done doing his Throw ability. I would get close to him so he stopped doing Throw and then we would begin to do Barrage usually with in 20 seconds. Just avoid the black spots on ground. Don't run in a predictability pattern like left to right. This one wasn't too hard once I got the mob to do ability. So people have suggested using the vents to jump above, but this one wasn't too hard to just be aware and don't get hit. So get close to stop Throw, avoid black spots by running in unpredictably back and forth.

I hope this helps, this still took me a while and getting them to cast ability is the hardest part. Good luck.

Kommentar von spdabbs

Having just totally soloed this one I've found some tips for shammies....

Don't use totems when killing the hunters because if your totems get hit by Wild Barrage, that stops you getting that part of the achievement.

Use totems on the Sentinel as I got that part of the achievement when I killed the Sentinel while he carried my totem!

Kommentar von 380942

Hm....my experience with this crapful achievement is different from those stated here. Killed shaman on 2nd try, seems not to give credit if you stand in the Firewave. About 4th hunter got the Barrage, but he DIDNT do anything! I thought I'd get swarmed, ran around a bit, then just finished it off and got a credit. Maybe a rare lucky bug. As for the Sentinel - this part is preventing me from ach. As a feral druid, I tried to DoT-kill him, and to test if I wont get the credit when riding him, as people suggested. With my luck - dozens of sentinels, one caught me, but dropped a second after. I hope their abilities or spawn timers will be fixed, as there are ~5 sentinels all waiting dead in that place...

Kommentar von Koalbree

For the Flamewaker Hunter's part of this achieve when I finally found one that had a Wild Barrage I jumped into the lava and swam around till he finished and got the achieve before I even killed him.

Kommentar von 681419

Used a few things to finally get this achievement. The hunter was by far the most annoying criteria.

Hunter:

All hunters (skin color wise) can cast Wild Barrage
Thermal Vents to insure I don't get hit by the spears
Intimidating Shout as soon as the spears begin to throw
Killed Charhound at the beginning, being dazed won't help you

Sentinel:

Black and yellow (skin) Sentinels do grab people

Skin color doesn't appear to have any affect whether Flamewakers will or will not use their ability. It appears that there is a certain percent chance that when the mob spawns, it has their ability.

Kommentar von 150562

Things to note:

Hunter achieve: If you have a speed ability (ie: rogue sprint), use it the moment the hunter uses special attack and zigzag away. I found this to be SUPER effective.
Sentinels are a pain. Period. As a rogue, I don't see how I can solo this one without the help of another player. I've tried the Netherwing, Timbermaw, and Barov Servant collar trinkets and I find my companions die very quickly. I spent a half hour with a player trying for the achieve and no such luck either. We were picked up twice, but put down way before the mob could be killed.

Any pointers for the Sentinels?
...importing Wolverine into the game, maybe?

Kommentar von 163020

Hunter part as a Mage: Just blink in the opposite direction and keep running. It completes before it's even killed.

Kommentar von Malfurix

Hunter part:
Do not focus on damage or killing the hunter at all; just focus on avoiding the Wild Barrage.

Kommentar von HeyJimmy

Got hunter's achievement very easy: just runned away and outranged his ability. The range of Wild Barrage is 40 yards. Speed increase will help but it's not nesessary. Breaking LoS will help too, as hunter stop his barrage when you do it.
I hope it will help people with bad latency :)

Kommentar von memodown

You do not need a pet or a party member for the Flamewalker Sentinel part of this achievement. If the mob has the ability it will use it on you even if you are on your own. You can still fight while being carried.

Kommentar von 855319

If you are a mage and you are not in a group, do not cast Flame Orb/Frostfire Orb on a Sentinel without casting Mirror Image/Water Elemental. I already have the achievement so I simply assumed the Sentinel didn't have the ability and thought I'd just hurry the fight along by casting a Flame Orb. Suddenly I found myself suspended in his arms and seconds later going for a lava bath.

Kommentar von 855319

@ BethofHearts I assure you that you are mistaken. The hunter was the last one I needed and I got it today by simply walking backwards until he was just out of my range.

Kommentar von 324209

he throws spears in the direction you're walking towards, so just spin around in a tiny circle. You're guaranteed not to get hit by a single spear.

This sounds as it might work for all classes who can be far away when he starts his barrage. Very good idea, but not how I have done. But from my experience, to clarify what the other poster said, No,

you just stand still

is not what he meant - he said "tiny circle". You still need to leave the spot you have been on or you will be hit, but the direction you face changes as rapidly as he throws his barrage of spears. But I used the "line-of-sight" trick another poster mentioned and that is a far safer way of achieving this and far more "natural" to me, too. See my post in reply to that.

Kommentar von riaa

Just did the last one I was missing, the hunter part. The other two I didnt even knew I had untill I looked at the achievement :P

1. If the mob doesn't start after a few seconds to cast wild barrage when going close to stop throw, just kill it and wait for another to spawn.

2. When you finally find one that start casting barrage best way to avoid the black spots on the ground is running LOS or using one of the vents to get in the air.

Got mine after killing about 15 mobs.

Kommentar von 579498

for the sentinel one make sure that you are the one killing the sentinel, you don't get credit if you are being carried and he is killed

Kommentar von trepegroupieone

Just got this Achievement in the following manner:

Aggro'ed Hunter, did not kill pet

As soon as Hunter began channeling, I started running and popped a Swiftness potion

I ran away, away, away, and as soon as the the channel bar ran out -Boom! Achievement.

The Shaman was pretty easy, as described above, just back up through his flame when he's low enough and you'll get him.

I can confirm the Sentinel will pick up water elementals too, as that's how I got that portion.

Kommentar von 812977

I think that the way to get the hunter's to use Wild Barrage, is to kill their dogs. I spent 30 min killing 20 hunters that i found, and only 2 had the move. I tried killing the dog's first, and now its 2/2 for the wild barrage.

Kommentar von Warlock82

A tip for those trying to solo the Sentinel part of this - if "Need... Water... Badly..." is available, the NPC for that quest counts as a "pet" that can be grabbed by the Sentinel. It's slightly tricky since he travels a specific path, so you can only go after Sentinels on that path, but if you attack anything he'll stop moving so you can drag Sentinels to him. If you make it all the way to the end without him being grabbed, abandon the quest and try again once some more Sentinels have respawned.

It's not as easy as just being a pet class, but hey, it works :) And he doesn't despawn after a couple seconds or have a lengthy summon cooldown like most trinket pets.

Kommentar von rogermw

It IS POSSIBLE to attack the sentinel when you're grabbed. You may need to turn around a couple of times to put him in front of you, but he can be hit by melee attacks.

Kommentar von Wolfchild

For the hunter part, if you're in a group, it seems like you may need be the one being directly attacked in order to get the achieve.
Did this with a druid tank buddy. Took us three times to get it right. First two, he had aggro and was the focus of the barrage. Went off without a hitch both times, and both times I didn't get credit for it. Third time, I aggroed the hunter while my buddy stayed back and kept the other mobs busy. Got the credit no problem that time.

Kommentar von 380942

To do the hunter criteria - I suggest remembering two similar ideas: Slabhide in Stonecore and Torch Juggling daily during Midsummer. When engaging a hunter, prepare to run away, or run away if you are ranged. Once you see him channeling, you have to either be 10+ yards away or further. If you are 10 yards or closer - he will get you for sure. If you are 10+ yards, you have at least one second to see a black spot under the spear. If you are 15-20 yards away, you have at 2 seconds, and it's pretty easy. I was quite annoyed by this ach, but finally made it and hope THIS tip will help.

Kommentar von MelTorefas

Fun fact: at least at present, you don't have to be in a party to get the sentinel part of the achievement. I was fighting a sentinel on my blood elf hunter, and a human mage went running by (might or might not have attacked the sentinel, didn't see). Regardless, the sentinel grabbed the mage and I got the achievement credit when I killed the sentinel.

Kommentar von Iroared

Spent about 30 minutes trying to find a hunter with barrage, then came here to see if I was doing something wrong, when I tabbed back I saw a hunter casting barrage on me. Having a sentinel stun me halfway through it wasn't nice but I still got it, just look out for black dots, theres more than enough time to dodge them.

Kommentar von Haverok

There is an easier way to make the hunter part of achi - just stun him when he starts barrage.
Freezing, fearing and other types of cc works as well.
I used Shadowfury as soon, as I saw the barrage casting bar, it was interrupted, but I still got the achievement.
Also Sentinel can take away warlock's pet. :)

Good hunting!

P.S

Make sure, that your pet won't overaggro you, or the trick won't work.

This achi is much easier, when you do it in pairs - when one person puts cc on hunter and the second one triggers the hunter.

Kommentar von 347788

Easiest way to not be hit by hunter while he casts wild barrage is to wait for the cast to start, then stun him. You will get credit after a few seconds. Confirmed with 2 characters.

Kommentar von Reaganator

After working on the Sentinel portion of this achieve with some friends for almost an hour, we made a few observations of our own:

1. There are different colored sentinels: grey, orange, and maybe even a yellow.
2. I can say with 100% certainty that both orange sentinels and grey sentinels can pick up players and carry them into the lava.
2. Some sentinels dual wield, while some carry a single weapon. Those carrying a single weapon seemed more likely to pick up a player (apparently they need the free hand)
3. Threat did not seem to be a factor. The sentinels pick up any random player who is within melee range.
4. The sentinel needs to be standing somewhere near the edge of the lava. When he picks up a character, he carries him into the lava and holds him under for a short time. Kill him before he releases your party member to get credit for that portion of the achieve.
5. The person picked up by the sentinel will not get credit.

Kommentar von 856364

Hello everyone, so after doing this Achievement in about ~30 minutes, I got some nice tips that some (specially hunters and other classes such as warlocks with pets) will find useful.

As Meister des Geschmolzenen Stroms says, you need to do the following things:

Flamewalker Shaman

Simple, you just want to get his health points kinda low, to like 20k then just kite him to the flame patch and wait for it to explode, pets on passive might be a good idea, this was the easiest one for me, after the patch explodes he'll die, watch your health because you might get damaged as well.

Flamewalker Sentinel

This one is another easy one, if you have a pet then just send it to attack the mob, go all out since this guy has ~120k health points and he'll eventually carry your pet, if you do not own a pet, you can use a trinket that summons a companion, or just find a group using /1 General or something, if you're in a group, the person who got carrier will not earn the meta.

Flamewalker Hunter

Clearly the hardest one, it took me around 10 minutes to figure it out, and when I did figure it out, hell it was easy as hell, 1 shotted it, how? well... LoS is your friend here.

You just want to aggro one of these guys near a wall or somewhere where you can LoS him easily when he starts casting wild barrage, LoS as fast as you can, if you own a pet just send your pet in, you might want to damage him a bit then wait for the cast then LoS as soon as possible.

You don't need to kill the Flamewalker Hunter to earn the meta.

Have fun and good luck!

Kommentar von Pazno

Priests: You can get the sentinels to pick up other MCed flamewalkers. A bit of warning though, sometimes the carried flamewalker will bug out underground and continue attacking you!

Kommentar von seeker296

Dunno if this has been said yet, but if you're trying for the flamewalker hunter part, the wild barrage has to be casted at you. This means if there is somebody standing near you and they get targeted instead, you won't get credit.

Kommentar von 611587

Okay from what I learned about the Setinels, is they only seem to pick someone up/cary someone only if you are close to a lava bank.

Kommentar von 751803

The hunter's barrage gave me a lot of trouble on this one. What eventually worked for me was engaging the hunter in the second area while standing on the path leading up to the big boulder you see when you first start the quests. As soon as he started throwing things at me I moved close to the big boulder in that first area. When he started casting barrage I ran around the boulder, using it as a shield.

Kommentar von Milleuda

Just a note for fellow shaman: the Sentinel CAN pick up one of your totems as a "pet."

Kommentar von Syndi23

It may just be a bug, but I got the Sentinel kill from a warlock's voidwalker that wasn't in my group.
Same concept though, when he picked up the voidwalker, I killed him and it still gave me credit.

Kommentar von 856787

About the wild barrage. I finish this part today.
When the hunter shoot another player, I cast a instant spell on that hunter then kill it.
The hunter already been tagged by that player.

Kommentar von 266289

im having alot of trouble with the hunter one. main reason is because i cant see the small black shadows everyone keeps telling me about

i have a pretty rubbish computer but ive tried changing my settings. everything is on fair now. i cant put anything higher because the game would become unplayable

anyone have any suggestions to which settings to change so the small black shadows appear?

e: never mind that. i just got this done by luck. i was running around the big rock near the quest givers (trying to LoS) then 2 mobs respawned. i was low on hp so i started to run away. i noticed the hunter was casting barrage so i just kept moving left and right while running away. i wasnt expecting to get it but really glad i finished the ach after hours of trying!

Kommentar von Hawkyyy

Just did this achievment with my ele shammy friend, im a priest so we just ran around Mind Soothing and Hexing mobs we didnt need and i MCd them to see if they had the ability, took us probably a good hour or so as we had bad luck with getting mobs with the ability and other people were questing so killing the ones we needed.

Bit tedeous but not that hard.

Kommentar von endaira

Okay, I must be missing something, the shaman and sentinel were easy. The hunter, I have spent about 5 hours on
and cannot seem to get.

I tried running away in a straight line, he hits me, I tried running around in close circles, he hits me, I tried running around in large circles, he hits me, I tried running around like a maniac, he hits me. I tried los, he shoots right through it. I ran off and engineered myself up some nitro boosts, tried that, he hit me.

Finally, I got smart and started interrupting, I interrupted once with concussive shot... it stopped the wild barrage, but then soon he cast it again. I got even smarter, I interrupted it once with concussive shot, next time with wyvern sting... he shot it again really soon.

I am a hunter... do I have more interrupts that I am not thinking about? Seems like I need about 5 more.

Kommentar von 458613

Is there some trick to getting the Sentinels to pick up one of the party members? I just spent the better part of a half hour with a very helpful druid. Said druid willingly became a damage sponge as I stood idly by flinging fireballs from my wand. The druid had threat well in excess of 100% and nary once did said Sentinels attempt pick up this lovely specimen of Night Elf femininehood and try to roast her alive.

What gives?

<edit>
Alriiiiighty then!

Just completed the Sentinel portion as a Mage and I wanted to write this now while the facts were fresh in my head.

First - I found that skin color of the Sentinel meant nothing. There are two varieties of Sentinels, bright orange with black "trim" or black with a golden "trim". An earlier comment said that only the latter will have the ability however I discovered (numerous times) that either of these will pick up the party member. What does matter is if the mob has that ability in the first place. As far as I know there is no way to determine this other than pulling and seeing if you get pulled aside for a lava bath.

I first tried this as an Arcane Mage but it was really tricking as Mirror Image was the only additional help I could call on so I switched to Frost spec. Say hello to my little friend, Water Elemental.

A few points for using the water elemental:

Keep your threat below your pets. This is a no brainer. I just sicked the Elem on the Sentinel and sent in a few Frost Bolts or Ice Lances to help drop the hp a bit.
Frost Nova seemed to cause the Sentinel to drop the Elemental resulting in no recognition upon killing Sentinel.
Deep Freeze did not seem to cause the Sentinel to drop the Elemental and gave me the time I needed to dps the Sentinel down.

As with all of the Flamewalker talents, if they don't do them in the first 5 seconds of the fight it's most likely they do not have that ability to begin with so you should just kill the mob and move to the next one.

I hope this helps.</edit>

Edit #2-Whilst doing the daily Flamewakers of the Molten Flow I was grabbed by a Sentinel just as I cast Frost Nova and found that the Sentinel maintained a firm grasp upon me so #2 above might be incorrect.

Kommentar von creepfest

confirmed sentinel grabs sham totems, healing stream for me

Kommentar von 108243

There is a very easy way for a priest to get the hunter step that I discovered by accident. 1. Mind Control a hunter. 2. Have him attack another hunter >10+ yards away, using his Throw ability. 3. If the attacked hunter has Wild Barrage, he will cast it on your MC'd pet. None of it will hit you and you get the credit for the step. Voila!

Kommentar von 293216

Of all the achievements I have this is one in particular is THE most difficult one of all.

Kommentar von Illiune

Takes way too long to find one with the ability. >.>

Kommentar von 669378

One of the most annoying Achievement, not because it's difficult, but because there's alot of things that can go wrong that is beyond your control.

My advice is.. do this during offpeak hours, when there is hardly anyone on.

The hunter's barrage is almost impossible to dodge if you do it during peak hour, because as I found out, not only does it target you, but also players near you.

Not to mention, there were many times I found a hunter with the ability, only to have other players decide to "help" me and kill it, while it's casting it.

Also another advice, if you're a Night Elf, or a Rogue, and you fail to dodge the Barrage, just Shadowmeld or Vanish, and tag it again.

So yeh, do yourself a favor and do this during offpeak hours when there isn't anyone around, and it's easy.

Kommentar von Nymphia

Mobs dont use their abilities so frequently.They do it in 10sec when u pull mob.So pulling mob and waiting for his special cast for ach is impossible.Easier part of this ach is shaman.Just leave him at fire near his death.And hunter part of ach is a little tough but you can do it with getting max range of hunter's.And the last one is sentinel's part.You cant do it on your own.Need a teammate for it

Kommentar von 858144

Warlock tip for evading the hunter's wild barrage: soulburn a demonic circle for the 50% speed buff.

Kommentar von WoWhen

Took ~2 hours of farming at least 100 of these stupid hunters. Long story short... NOT ALL FLAMEWALKERS HUNTERS SPAWN WITH THE BARRAGE ABILITY.

What does this mean for you? If you attack a hunter and they do not use the barrage ability with-in the first 10 seconds, kill it, and look for another. When they do finally cast it, run around like a chicken with it's head cut off in random directions.

I had the best luck finding hunters that spawn with the ability in the first 2 areas below the quest giver. (1st area is around has a big rock in the center of it that you can run around; 2nd area is below that). There are 3 spawn points for the hunters in these areas, so you shouldn't wait to long for them to respawn.

Kommentar von 60610

Mouse Turners have no trouble avoiding the barrage.

Kommentar von dracowraith

Confirmed for unholy presence trick. Just switch to unholy presence and run around like a dwarf in a drunken stupor. For some reason the hunter threw the barrage no where near me also...maybe he poked himself in the eye...

Kommentar von 554356

You can solo the sentinel step as a Moonkin by releasing your treants (Force of Nature spell). It worked for me, the sentinel picked up one of the treants and then I killed it and got that step.

Kommentar von 313428

For Wild barrage going fast is helpfull so some usefull items:

Hurtigkeitstrank for all
Nitrobooster for engineers

and some talents like

Körper und Geist (holy priests)

Kommentar von 781377

Bad latency/graphics option for wild barrage:

I positioned myself at the base of an air flow vent (facing the ledge). When the hunter began his barrage, I jumped, and just went along the vents, three ledges later I had the achievement.

Kommentar von shadow1515

Water elementals count as "party members" if the Sentinels grab them; I imagine fire elementals and warlock/hunter pets will work as well. Makes this achievement less tedious for those who prefer to do their dailies solo.

Kommentar von FAMas

i am a blood DK, and got the credit of the Sentinel just a moment ago with him grabbing my blood worm.

Kommentar von Marvelin

I found the Hunter achievement easy to do once you figure it out. I turned off 'bite' on my pet (dps from him kills him too fast), turned off all stuns (the initial charge may interupt wild barrage) and just let him taunt and tank him. I did not auto attack at all and just stayed at about maximum ranged. As soon as he began channeling wild barrage I moved out of ranged and watched the arrows coming. As far as I can tell they either can't hit me past 40 yards or just moving back and forth made it impossible. I got it the first time with this technique (after trying to dodge it within range for 25 minutes).

Have fun.

Kommentar von 376231

As a warlock, a Sentiel grabbed my demon and it counted for the achievement as I killed it with my demon in his hand.

Kommentar von 859024

I just got this achievment on my hunter. If the Wild Barrage hits your pet you won't get the achievment. What I did was clear one of the round areas of the shaman's and dismissed my pet and waited for a hunter to spwan that had the ability. After I got the achievment called pet and killed the hunter. I spent an hour doing this though because not alll the hunters have/or use the ability.

Kommentar von Shirlnha

I can confirm that you can get credit for the Sentinel as a solo Balance Druid. The Flamewaker Sentinel grabbed one of my treants, I killed him, and I got the achievement.

Kommentar von Kitebasher

I managed to get credit for "wild barrage" by stunning the hunter after he started hurling the spears during the channel. He only got to throw 3 spears and then he was stunned.

Kommentar von ruxp1n

I was able to complete Wild Barrage by gaining aggro with a ranged spell and immediately kiting the hunter to the full ranged. as soon as the hunter turned around i received the achievement.

Kommentar von 859411

hunter wild barrage part is easy if you have instant cc:
1. have macro like "/cast repentance
2. put hunter on /focus
3. hit the dog
4. keep running
5. as soon as hunter starts wild barrage hit the key bound to macro
6. finish the hunter
if hunter doesn use wild barrage in 10 seconds just kill him and find another one

Kommentar von Fwee

Priests are able to solo the Sentinel component of this by using Mind Control. Simply Mind Control any of the mobs and use it to fight the Sentinel, when it gets picked up cancel the MC and kill the Sentinel.

Kommentar von silkfire

Confirmed. The trick for Warlocks is Fear. As soon as you get lucky and he starts casting Wild Barrage - fear him but be careful so you don't get hit by the first arrow! Wait 3 sec - achievement is yours.

Kommentar von 151802

For the Shamans out there: easiest way to get credit for Wild Barrage is to engage a Hunter till he casts this spell then go Ghost Wolf. Run away from him, easily avoiding the black dots, till the spell is done. Then go back and finish him off. You only need to avoid being hit by the spell during a single cast to get credit.

Kommentar von 859973

Confirmed that only certain ones have the ability needed for the achievement, if they do not do it with in the first few hits they will not do it so dont waste your time keeping it alive,
Sentinal- you can not be the one grabbed or you will not get credit, it will only hold the player for seconds so he needs to be almost dead when player is picked up
Hunter-- just run away in a zigzag and run back when its done
shaman- just move it into the fire and kill it

Kommentar von Soundfx4

Hunter:

The hunter's wild barrage seems to ark! So the further away you are from him, the more time you have to move, and the more spread out his spear thingies are! Something to try if all else fails!

Kommentar von Iceveiled

I've been down here doing these dailies every day since they've started and have killed countless hunters. I have yet to see this so called barrage ability. Not only that but usually when I can find a hunter and I'm trying to slowly kill it, somebody else will come along and "help" me.

Kommentar von 355455

After a great deal of frustration like so many others trying to get the Wild Barrage part down, I just found a way to cheese it that admittedly requires a bit of luck/RNG, and being a mage/some other ranged helps, but it's much easier than all the other crap I tried and failed at.

Most people try to camp hunters in the large rooms, but I found a pat in one of the small cul-de-sacs with the sleeping dogs. I also happened to be fairly close to a wall (this is important). When I attacked, he immediately charged up Wild Barrage, and I very quickly blinked away, to LoS him behind the wall. Sure enough, he stood still chucking spears that were blocked by the wall, and I quickly ran back when he was done and finished him off to score the achievement.

So my advice to people having issues with this: try the side rooms, or if you find one in the larger open chambers, try to kite one near to a place you can LoS. Kiting is admittedly difficult, largely because of the oft-crazy spawn rates down there and the number of people who like to "help" you kill the mobs, but it's a viable method if you're lucky.

Good luck!

Kommentar von Tottiina

Ok, this might be one of the most frustrating achieve of this sort.. I have been killing the sentinels and hunters for ages.. I guess i die to old age before get this achi done..

Kommentar von 765496

Best way for hunter - go to the place at the beginning little to the right, and run behind big rocky pillar. There is one who spawns there or kite one if you are unlucky and he doesn't have barrage ability. Just run left right behind rock and achi is yours.

Kommentar von 417402

One very easy way to get credit for the hunter is to fight the one in the cave full of charhounds untill it uses Wild Barrage, then run out of the cave and put the wall of the cave in between you and it. It'll keep throwing spears and they'll appear to go through the wall, but you're safe once you're out of its line of site.

Kommentar von 461735

This achievement is quite frustrating to get. I've never once seen a Hunter do Wild Barrage, it's always just Throw that they cast. I don't know why Blizz made it so that only a handful of the mobs in the Molten Flow actually count for the achievement, as only SOME of the Shamans do Flamewake, only SOME of the Sentinals pick you up, and from what I've seen.. apparently none of the Hunters do Wild Barrage.

Kommentar von Akaeya

I just popped by to mention to those of you who are having issues finding the Sentinels and Hunters with the specific abilities for this achieve...be patient.

I spent well over a half an hour helping a guildmate with the achievement on my druid. I helped him with the Hunter by using Stampeding Roar, but it was the Sentinel that was the pain. We spent so very long killing Sentinels for one that would pick me up.

So it's a bit random, because when I had a random Priest help me with it, the first Sentinel we attacked picked her up, while with my guildmate and I it was probably the...100th...ish...

Kommentar von Nekrotik

I just spent about 45 minutes on this. The sentinels and shaman were no problem. However the hunters are extremely difficult. Wild barrage has a range of at least 12 and a half miles. They can chuck spears through walls, around corners, and right up your butt without even taking aim. Changing direction does no good, the spears just follow you like heat seeking missiles. There's nowhere to run, nowhere to hide - they will find you. They throw enough spears to hit you and all of your cousins and old college girlfriends at once. I tried doing this ten ways to Sunday. I tried the line of sight trick. I tried the air vent trick. So far, no dice. As far as I can tell, getting the third part of this achievement is a matter of insane persistence and pure luck. Just keep going until somehow you accidentally get it.

Update: Okay, after 3 or 4 hours of trial and error over 3 days, I finally managed to complete the last stage on my hunter. Here's what I learned, at least as far as ranged classes are concerned:

1) Don't bother attacking any of the hunters out in the open. Their range is far greater than yours, and the spears track your position as you move so you can't outrun or dodge them. You MUST use line of sight.

2) The best place to do this is at the cave with the sleeping hounds in it. It has 2 entrances, one a little further down the slope than the other. Stand outside at the right side of the lower entrance, face toward the cave, and wait. The hunter and his little dog will spawn inside the cave directly in front of you and begin moving with his back toward you.

3) If you have a pet (hunter, mage, lock), don't let your pet hit him first. You must tag him yourself, then IMMEDIATELY run to your right and put the wall between you and him. Let your pet commence the attack. The hunter will stay put inside the cave. His dog will come for you but it does very little damage, so just ignore it. Be sure to keep the hunter targeted and watch his cast bar. If he doesn't cast wild barrage in the first few seconds, he's not going to. Just kill that one, resume your position and wait a minute or two for the next one to spawn.

4) Once out of his line of sight, you MUST keep moving constantly or he'll locate you and start firing spears through the wall, hitting you and forcing you to start over. Keep strafing a few steps back and forth, keeping a close eye on his health bar. When your pet has him down to where you're sure you can kill him with one blow, run in and let him have it. (I'm fairly sure if your pet delivers the coup de grace, you won't get credit.)

This has got to be even harder for classes with no pet. Priests may be forced to dash out between wild barrage casts and dot him to death. Melee classes will have to stun or interrupt him any way they can and burn him down as quickly as possible. Probably the best bet is to do this in a group and take turns. His spear throws appear to be highly directional, so if you take turns standing behind him and delivering the killing blow, this might be a whole lot easier than soloing it.

This can be a very, very frustrating achievement. I hope this helps.

Kommentar von 861111

Confirmed

Hunters are extremely easy for certain classes.
Wait for the cast and avoid first attack (prob not that quick to stop first barrage) and CC hunter (fear,blind etc)
Then just kill it.
Did this first go with rogue and hunter (thx to comments above ofc)

Another way (possible) is aggro the hunter in the cave with the dogs and run round the pillar.....he'll stop casting throw or barrage when out of sight.
Really not a great method tbh but just thought I'd mention it.

Kommentar von Kvasi

Heroic Leaped away from the Wild Barrage and he just stopped throwing spears and I got the achievment.

Kommentar von 617248

the hunter quest is ridiculous. 3 hours it took me, even MC'ing as a priest simply because people keep aggroing and killing the mobs before you get a chance to avoid the barrage. the most annoying part of a quest in the history of WoW,

Kommentar von Treetog

Shadow Priests can do Flamewaker Sentinel part solo by using Shadowfiend or Shadowy Apparition as a party member.

Kommentar von Hairband

It's sort of buried here in this but the Flamewalker Sentinel will emote something like "Time for a swim, Greater Elemental" when he's got your buddy. Strike with all you have at that time. I definitely needed a group for this as my little pets wouldn't get aggro fast enough. He was my hardest one since I am not a pet class.

Kommentar von 619054

i got the hunter barrage part while in queue for za

was in queue for za and when queue came i attacked 2 hunters and ported, 5 sec later...i got the achievement

hope that helped someone

Kommentar von Muxtarr

I wonder does hunter's 'throw' ability count for the wild barrage achievment? I mean if I somehow avoided wild barrage and then get hit by throw, will I get achiev?

P.S. 2 days trying even to find hunter with wild barrage, no result. They all are with throw only. Wtf...

Kommentar von 799022

Like many of you...I was having trouble with the Hunter one. Here's how i did it....

There is a hunter that patrols INSIDE the cave where all the charhound things are sleeping.....I waited till he was slightly deeper inside....and pulled him with my ranged attack , heroic throw. (im a warrior). With space in between us....i LOS'ed him and ran away so that i had the cave wall in between us. Im not sure if his attacks still go through the wall, or if he had to run to the enterance of his cave to see me , THEN threw some more spears...but i DID still get a couple thrown at me...but it seemed to only be one or two....and either way...i got it on my first attempt of doing it this way.

I dont know why i didnt think of it sooner..i had spent weeks trying to get this done. haha. Hope this helps someone out there.

Kommentar von dathire

Grab a priest and ask them to MC one and see if they have it, I was lucky and had one find the ability right away, then simply run around in every direction. It is a pain in the arse to find the right hunter though o.O

Kommentar von 862933

I used my Argent Warhorn to get the Sentinel portion on my warrior.

Kommentar von Muxtarr

I did this today: stood near lower entrance to the cavern, aggroed him, and just used Heroic Leap down the way when he started casted. I saw that cast still was casted, but no spears flew to me (I jumped and ran all the time, jsu for sure). Hope this will help.

Kommentar von 863119

I think this must be linked to actually not getting hit at all instead of simply not taking damage. Three times now I've gotten one of these hunters to cast Wild Barrage on my paladin at which point I bubble. I don't take any damage but neither do I get the achieve. I put in a ticket about it but just back a boilerplate 'disable your add-ons and delete your WTF, cache and interface folders' response.

I guess I'll give the LoS trick in the hound room a whirl, see if that works for me.

Kommentar von 863147

An easy way to get the hunter part of the achievement is to use one of the vents and get to the other side of a rock to where he cant see you. This worked for me at the vent near the entrance, past questgivers

Kommentar von SpartanG01

Ok this may seem a little ridiculous but I just got credit for the Wilder Beschuss by, get this, swimming in the lava.....

For this: Wilder Beschuss
Trying walking off the ledge into the lava and swimming straight. I did this by accident attempting to jump into a thermal vent and screwed up and just decided to go with it and got credit as soon as the spell ended. Maybe some how it can't hit you in the lava? I dunno but it worked for me and it took me hours to get this so I figured I'd pass it on.

Edit: I figured it out. It's Line Of Sight. If you pass out of LOS while the spell is casting you then you can completely avoid it, beware though any of the spears he throws while you're moving out of LOS will just go through the object and hit you. The easiest way I found to do this is stand right next to the lava and when he starts casting step backward into the lava and swim a couple feet. Once the first spear misses you can just sit there and you won't be hit by the rest. Did this on two toons and has worked both times so far. (I tried clearing the cave of hounds and doing it in there but the time I tried a spear flew through the wall and hit me (that's how I figured out anything already in air will hit you if you pass out of LOS)

Kommentar von Veratus

Finding a hunter that cast this was absolute hell. I wasted a good hour down there trying all sorts of trickery to get one to cast it at me. In the end I stumbled across the one closest to Thisalee and attacked it, he cast it - so I just zigzagged.

Also, I can confirm that the Argent War Horn will also get picked up by the sentinel!

Kommentar von Kiba333

Engineers can solo the Sentinel/Pick-up challenge by simply using their Pappkamerad
Fight the sentinel near lava until he is at about 50% life, then pop out your assassin. In my case he grabbed him right away

Kommentar von epicdeath

As a hunter, I got the Sentinel part alone, without party members. Just over aggroed the pet, and the sentinel picked it up - and I killed him. Easy peasy.

Kommentar von 428035

Just got this today.The Sentinel part was the most difficult for me and my friend.
Here's what we saw:

The Sentinels are super quick so when throw your friend into the lava, be prepared.
Not all Sentinels throw.
Most of them do it towards 20k HP so be ready.
Kite the Sentinel close to lava helps but remember they run super quick.

Hope this helps.
Good luck!
P.S.
The screenshot I submitted has one the the phrases the Sentinel will say when they carry your friend into the lava.

Kommentar von 811385

the kill sential while it picks up a party member can be soloed, it counts if you dots, pet, or totems kill it while your picked up and it can pick up non-players was surprised but my shaman got this when he picked up my searing totem.

Kommentar von Slark

For the Sentinel Grab, if you're a Hunter/Warlock/Death Knight and maybe a Mage (if Frost spec'd), you don't necessarily need someone in your group to achieve this. If the Sentinel grabs your pet/minion and you kill the Sentinel while it's carrying your pet/minion, you will get credit for it and it will count it as a party member. (I found that out today when I received credit for killing the sentinel while he was carrying my pet turtle :D)

Kommentar von 819481

I hate this achievement. By far the hardest is with a mage. These mobs hit hard and do their attacks half the time. It is frustrating to have 30% health after every pull to try and get them to do their special move

Kommentar von zomg5

so is there anyway a pally, warrior, or rogue can solo the sentinel for achievement?

Kommentar von 749141

mages have advantage here cause apparently your images count as a party member and the sentinel will grab your mirror image and if you kill you him you will get credit for achieve i imagine this would work with any npc that draws threat but i have no experience to back that up

Kommentar von 749141

mages have an advantage here apparently your mirror image count as a party member and if a sentinel catches one and you kill it it will count towards achievement i would imagine this works with any npc that draws threat but i hae evidence to back that up

Kommentar von 749141

i do not see what people are complaining about this isn't vanilla wow where npc 2 shot clothies obviously we are still not strong enough to take full on blows at melee distance but that is what kiting is for and when it comes to mages and running no one runs better then us the hardest part of this achievement was finding a sentinel with the right ability and dodging those spears is no different then dodging ice chunks except the spears are way smaller which only makes it easier but you could all ways break up their focus with some mirror images or water elemental or both if it proves to tasking for you

Kommentar von 347073

for any shamans out there heres a tip, for the grab part of the achievement dps it down to about 50/60% and let loose your earth elemental, wait for it to pick up aggro & get grabbed, worked a treat for me, although it takes a while this method due to the huge cooldown of the totem.

Kommentar von 866478

You can also solo this achieve by having a Flamewaker Sentinel pick up Thisalee Crow who is the quest giver in the area. Did this with my warrior with no problems. I also used the heat vent for the wild barrage part of this achieve.

Kommentar von FromEarth

It turns out that there is a rather useful trick to getting credit for the Hunter's Wild Barrage if you are or have a priest in your group. Outside of checking with Mind Control to see if a Hunter has Wild Barrage, it can also be used to get credit without actually dodging the move and killing the hunter during it. Simply wait for the Hunter to start preparing to cast Wild Barrage, and time it so that you Mind Control him just as he starts his move (it's best if he manages to shoot off a single spear to be sure). Then, simply wait around ten seconds or so, and you should get credit. I think that if you interrupt his cast with Mind Control, the game simply thinks that the hunter died.

Kommentar von 866774

Rogue tips:

Sentinel:
If you are the one being carried then put crippling on your dagger to slow him down when he picks you up. Pop Evasion and hit em till he picks you up. If he doesn't pick you up by the time he's half health he's probably not going to. Burn him and move on to the next one.

If you are killing then let your buddy get aggro then smack the Sentinel once or twice with Mutilate to get a few combo points. As soon as your buddy gets picked up then Kidney Shot and burn him down.

Hunter:
Sap hunter. Kill dog. Stealth then Cheap Shot hunter and Mutilate (full combo points). As soon as hunter does Wild Barrage then Kidney Shot, pop Sprint and run away (preferably behind something) in an erratic matter.

Shaman:
Don't know how I got it but I did just doing dailies. :D

Kommentar von Cekis

Spent a lot of time doing this. Finally was able to do it by getting the Hunter to CONSISTENTLY fire off the ability.

The way I was able to get him to do Wild Barrage EVERY TIME was by hitting him only once (as a druid I used a Mangle or a Rake), then kill off his dog. When his dog dies, he fires the ability IMMEDIATELY - as if he's mad you killed his dog. After killing his dog, simply take off running away from the hunter and avoid the dark circles on the ground as they appear (this is where his spears hit the ground). If you can avoid the circles on the ground and not get hit by his barrage, you will get the achievement.

The best way you can avoid aggroing everything first is to of course kill everything in the path you are going to run. :)

Kommentar von 798406

Contrary to what was originally thought, I do not believe that only certain Hunter spawns have the Wild Barrage ability. I believe this has been proven by the fact that people have waited 45 secs to a min and finally the mob cast it.

After killing these for 3 hrs this is my observation. The hunter has an invisibly enrage that can trigger the Wild Barrage but doesn't always. (SEE above post by Cekis for validation of this) For instance, trapping the hound add and kiting hunter away from him will sometimes trigger it. Rooting hunter and kiting add away and killing add can trigger it.

The best method I have found seems to be to trap the hound, wait for hunter to pay some yards away then hit him with chimera shot (i'm a hunter obviously :P) and he will pop wild barrage 50% more often then if you just aggro without ccing hound. Where'd I get my data? From 3 hrs of non-stop farming these hunters.

Also since the hunters seem to cast Wild Barrage anywhere from immediately upto 1 min from initial aggro feign death or other abilities that reset mobs work well here. Instead of fooling around waiting just aggro, wait 5 secs and see if he casts, if not feign death reset and try again.

Kommentar von Blutelf

Sentinels definitely take longer than 2 min to reset their ability, if it can be resetted.

Kommentar von matamoros

the hunter's wild barrage and swiftness pots don't get along

Kommentar von 655509

Flamewalker Sentinel says: How about a little swim, Searing Totem?

Kommentar von 870228

finally managed to do this solo on my shadow priest. After trying in vain to get him to pick up my shadow fiend at just the right time i stumbled onto a winning technique. i mc'd a sentinel and saw he had grab (the box was slightly blacker where button 4 should be) but the mc aggro'd a shaman. so i dps'd the shaman down with the sentinel. Then the mc breaks and i cast shadowfiend. He immediately grabbed the shadowfiend, and i cast a shadow word death and WIN. The shaman and his fire got the sentinel so low it was easy. I should note however that I have read that you have to be in a group so i grouped with a lv 1 from a trial account.

Kommentar von Warrioreuel

Ok, here is the TRICK for getting the Wild Barrage part of the acheeve. Stand on the edge of the rocks right next to the lava. Aggro a hunter. Assuming its the right kind that cast Barrage, the instant he starts to cast, simply jump in the lava. Barrage does not hit you when you are in the lava. When its over come out and kill him. Done

Kommentar von Quackie

Bugged. Been carried to the lava twice and killed him while I was in his grasp. No credit.

Kommentar von 227433

just found out the funny way to solo the Sentinel part for this achievement.
1. Mind control a random mob, aggro the sentinel use the mc'd mob.
2. the sentinel will sure grab the mc'd mob if it has the grab ability. Then you break mc channeling and the 2 mob will be hugging each other in a very weird position.
3. Kill the sentinel and profit :D

PS. I suppose using shadowfiend and fade will do the trick too, but timing would be tricky.

Kommentar von jharv1212

Not sure if this was mentioned but for the hunter after he starts casting wild barrage you can stun him to stop the channel and still get credit

Kommentar von 648378

On the hunters: Please, people, if you see someone sitting there just taking hits from a heavily damaged hunter, don't kill it. They're probably just waiting for it to barrage again.

Kommentar von Janettie

Disarming the sentinel may cause him to not pick up you up. I am not certain, but it took me forever to get the achievement because the rogue I was working in disarmed them nearly every pull... the two times they grabbed one us was when they were not disarmed the entire fight.

So I strongly recommend not disarming any of them...

Kommentar von Draxton

As a Warrior, this has been quite difficult to solo. Can confirm, via numerous times, killing him while in his grasp doesn't award. Finally found one that'd pick up whilst my Bedienstetenglöckchen der Barovs trinket was off CD. Only for it to pick me up....*sigh*

The fight continues.

Kommentar von 73156

Now this is annoying like hell.

I only miss the sentinel one, and as a pally I keep alternating between Bedienstetenglöckchen der Barovs and Abzeichen des Kommandanten

Results:
- Barov, sentinel picks me up
- Whelp, sentinel picks me up
- Barov, sentinel picks me up
- Whelp, sentinel picks up whelp, DC...

Edit: in the end I got it while only I was picked up, didn't even use the trinkets. HoJ helped it.

Kommentar von Wolftrainer

I tried these today and can confirm that summoning the Netherwing Ally does work for the Commanders Badge minion. Despite me having aggro, the Sentinel picked up my Netherwing Ally and went into the lava with him. I killed the Sentinel and got the credit for the achivement. Did this as a Retri Pali.

Kommentar von 625477

As a paladin, the Sentinel achievement was making me mad. 5 hours using 3 guardian summoning items each with a 10 min cooldown was not working, I was going nowhere. My other problem was that I didn't have enough dps as a prot paladin to kill them by the time they went to go to the lava (my other spec was holy). At the 5 hour mark, I remembered that the hunter can cast wild barrage a few times, so does the sentinel use his grab every now and then?

So I found a sentinel that grabs, he grabbed me and pulled me into the lava and walked some distance from the lava, hit him down to 30%, summoned an add and he immediately grabbed it and I nailed him. Boom, achievement.

Kommentar von 879429

for the sentinel you can use the baradin grunts talisman go buy it for 40 marks and when you are done deliver it back to vendor :) and it works really nice need to be honered with hellscreams reach though:)

Kommentar von solardiablo

Worked like a charm, thank you.

Kommentar von 880714

Tips for soloing sentinel as a shadow priest: don't know if it works to kill it with your own dots while he is carrying you, it didn't work for me apparently.

First of all, not all sentinels have the ability to carry, but you can find out if they do when you mind control them. It will show a blank ability with the number (4) on the spell bar, ability that you can't use but it is there. the ones that can't carry don't have the number on that button. Just go around and mind control sentinels. If they don't have the (4) ability just kill them cause you obviously aggro them anyway and they are useless. This works nicely if you're grouped as a shadow priest. help your group not to run around for nothing. Check the mob!

If they do have the ability throw your shadowfiend out and put it on passive (mine can kill the mob fast :) ) and then fade. Wait until the mob carries your shadowfiend then pew pew him. I tried it 3 times more after i got the achievement just to check and it worked every time.
Hope it's useful! Have fun!

Kommentar von 537794

The hardest part of this achieve is getting the RIGHT Hunter to attack with Wild Barrage. Let me clear up some confusion about this part of the achievement:

1) Not every Hunter will attack you with Wild Barrage.
2) If the spear he chucks at you tracks you as you move IT IS NOT Wild Barrage!
3) LOS tricks or tagging from high places also does not work!
Spears CAN go through walls, lava, and objects.
Attacking from high places causes the mob to start evading.

After many failed attempts trying LOS, lava swims, using vents to jump to higher places, and anything else I could think of I was about to give up. I then decided to just let a Hunter attack me and watch his attacks closely - all Hunters will attack you with their spear attack BUT if the spear tracks your movement it is not Wild Barrage! For it to be Wild Barrage, a black spot will appear underneath your feet, THIS IS YOUR CLUE that the next attack is the right one. Also, it is VERY easy to avoid it - all I did was side strafe it by 3-4 steps, rinse, repeat. Once the achieve hit I let my pet chew on the mob - done! Remember, you may have to go through many Hunters before one will actually attack with Wild Barrage but once he does avoiding it is mega easy.

Good Luck!

Kommentar von 881755

Wild Barrage is actually the easiest ability to avoid...

aggro the hunter, kill his pet, and then wait to see if it even has the ability.

if it does, back up. the hunter will spam throw for... a long boring time. when he starts channeling wild barrage, just stare at him, and watch were the spears are going as he throws them. you don't need to run fast, or far, or use vents, or look for black dots on the ground... you can just see where the spear actually physically is, its direction, and if its even heading to you... and step away from it if it is...

Kommentar von lulziams

For the Flamewalker Hunter,
as a Mage, I attacked and wait for him to cast Wild Barrage,
as soon as he casts,
I blinked and ran away with the Improved Blink talent.
Keep running until the cast bar runs out and you will leave the combat.
If you've successfully avoided all the incoming spears, you gain the credit.

Hope this helps. (I'm not sure about other classes, but it won't hurt trying)

Kommentar von 883155

I got this achievement 09/21/2011 because the Sentinel picked up the Mirror Image spawned by the Tier 12 Mage set. Completely unexpected; though a patient mage should easily farm this. I will assume the Mirror Image spell will trigger the achievement as well. MI, IB/Invis, wait patiently, burn.

Perhaps a hunter's pet will also count as a group member... Or Bedienstetenglöckchen der Barovs.. Rheas letztes Ei.. Gus' Erste-Hilfe-Kasten.. Horn des Verräters.. Verteidiger der Holzschlundfeste... Who knows.. Try it if you feel like it.

Sorry if this has been posted before, but with 250+ comments, it's probably worth re-posting for convenience.

Kommentar von 13819

Not 100% confirmed, but reliability of sentinels grabbing you seems to be 100% (Out of only 4 tests, admittedly) if you engage them when you're near lava that you can walk out of.

Kommentar von Michaelia

I can confirm that the Schildwache der Flammenschürer will grab a Spiegelbild.
I popped Spiegelbild before i started to attack him and then just let the Spiegelbild do the damage when low and behold he picked one up. I then burned him down and got that part of Meister des Geschmolzenen Stroms.

Also the Schamane der Flammenschürer are a little of a pain if you are well geared and using dots. Most of the time they will kill it before their own Flammenwelle will. Just remember to be patient with that part of the Meister des Geschmolzenen Stroms.

The Jäger der Flammenschürer are also a difficult one because they don't all have Wilder Beschuss . I recommend killing the Aschenhund first then i just kinda waited him out until he started to cast Wilder Beschuss. Once it starts to cast then run in a circle but still be mindful of the black circles on the ground because that is where the spears will land.

Happy Achievement hunting and Good Luck to you all.

Moarine - Eitrigg - Horde

Kommentar von Azunyan

From my experience doing Druids of the Talon dailies, Flamewaker Hunters almost always cast Wild Barrage against me, no matter if I kill the Charhound first or not. But they don't cast it immediately upon entering combat with them, however it doesn't take more than a minute for them to stop using their guided aim.

I didn't do anything special to avoid the barrages. In fact, just running in a straight line (away from the Hunter) without stopping made me gain the criteria.

As for the Flamewaker Sentinels, I can confirm they also pick up Treants (from the Force of Nature Balance Druid spell) and even Burning Treants summoned by having 2 or more of the current Balance Druid Tier 12 set Obsidian Arborweave Regalia equipped (set bonus)

Kommentar von Twintop

Not sure if it has been noted or not yet, but if you're currently working on Flammenschürer des Geschmolzenen Stroms daily, you WILL NOT get credit for parts of the achievement until you're 8/8 or have turned the quest in.

Kommentar von Nekhbet

Here is some good news for those who lack summonable companions/allies/pets, and movement increasing effects:Meister des Geschmolzenen Stroms is doable without the before mentioned help methods.

I performed all 3 challenges on my warrior.

Shaman:
Pretty obvious, the shaman casts a patch of fire on the ground beneath you. Simply move a few feet back, and watch as the creature boils.

Hunter:
Now first of all, i've learned that only the grey-scaled Jäger der Flammenschürer's has the ability Wilder Beschuss - this explains why you might have waited forever for the hunter to cast it. If you move far into the cave, there is a big round shaped platform. There you will find a useable Jäger der Flammenschürer patrolling in circles around the edge. Kill his beloved dog, and the hunter will almost instantly begin casting Wilder Beschuss. For the first few seconds, move in a straight line away from the hunter, and end it by useing Heldenhafter Sprung in any random direction. (Dont stop running at any time)

Sentinel:
The way i did this, demanded that i had not completed the quest Brauche... Wasser... Dringend..., the quest where you have to escort Anren Schattensucher through the cave. All you have to do, is simply letting him lead the way, and let one of the Schildwache der Flammenschürer's grab him (be cautious though, Anren does not have much hp at this time, so you have act fast) and then simply kill the hunter. If you fail at this, let Anren die, and restart the quest.

I hope this information was helpful, good luck to everyone!

I apologize if the abovementioned has already been published, but due to the many comments, I have not seen any similar to mine.

Kommentar von perrintub

I found the best was for me to get away from wild barrage was to use my inner will and have the swiftness potion on my bar. Kill the annoying Lil hound first. Then i turned away from the tard and waited till i saw him start to cast wild barrage. As soon as it started i clicked the potion and ran away from him simple as that. Be sure to clear out a clear run path so u don't aggro while you are running. One more thing if you get hit by it DON'T go back and kill him as he will start it again

Hope this helps

Holydêath - Shadow/Disc - Horde - The Underbog

Kommentar von 883272

Thought I'd give my 2 cents for the wild barrage.

1) Kill the pet as fast as possible
2) stand at about 10-15 yards from the hunter, your back facing him
3) Wait. If he hasn't cast wild barrage after 30 seconds, kill him and start with another.
4) Wild barrage is first a cast, then a channeling. When you see a hunter start casting wild barrage, run with all speed increases possible (blink, speed potion, hunter disengage, goblin rocket jump) in the opposite direction from the hunter (the one I told you to face in 2) )
5)Success.

Kommentar von 892617

Ghost wolf worked well for me

Kommentar von Zarac

I was trying the Wilder Beschuss with no success, he started casting and I ran the wrong way and I fell on lava and I magically got it =).

Kommentar von 855573

Easiest way for a Rogue to do this is when the Hunter starts to cast the Wild Barrage ability just use Vanish and the Hunter will continue to cast the entire Wild Barrage not shooting a single spear but when it finishes casting it will count toward your achievement. Just tried this today on accident and it worked.

Kommentar von Playmak3r

Just spent over 2 hours farming the Flamehunters. Not one single "Wild Barrage". Then i discovered that Flamehunters need to enrage before they cast their special ability. To Enrage them , simply kite it to the Lava.

Kommentar von dunt

The Dog Whistle from Scarlet Monastery, which is far quicker to obtain, worked like a charm for the Sentinel.

"Flamewaker Sentinel says: How about a little swim, Tracking Hound?" =)

Kommentar von Oneknight1984

For the hunter part, I was pretty lucky to get it but in the room with all the charhounds, that hunter did his wild barrage and i ran around the corner then straight and none of the spears touched me and I got credit.

Kommentar von 897742

I found the Hunter part of this achieve to be very frustrating. As a Protection Paladin it makes it a little more difficult. This is what I did that worked for me. I aggro hunters till I found one that would cast Wild Barrage. Luckily the one I found was in the cul de sac cave with the other hounds. When he started to cast it I knew I found one so I ran off until he reset. After he reset and went back to roaming I ran back and let him go into the bottom part of the cul de sac. I killed all the hounds in the upper one and waited for him to come back. Once in range I stood right next to the cave entrance. Threw Avenger's shield which dazed him for a second. After that he immediately started to cast Wild Barrage. I ran out of LOS and just kept running down to the lower entrance of that cave. By the time I got to the entrance I got achieve. I just ran back up and finished him off. Took close to 3 hrs to get it right but finally done.

Kommentar von Sorraxe

I just recently made it, maybe i got luck without planing it. But the main story here is that it worked fine and i got the acheivement done. Here is what you need to do my friend.

The inner cave where all the sleeping charhound are, there will be a patrull with his dog. Wait for him to walk near the exit of the small cave where all the sleeping hounds are, as soon he makes barriage, run out and he will be kind of LoS, just run while he is in there and you will have this huge mountain wall between you too, and when he was finished it, i just nuked him down.

I hope this will help you.

Btw- Done as a Hunter.

Kommentar von MaBaer

I hate achievements like this! I have gotten the shaman and hunter done, no problem really. The sentinel on the other hand is a major pain in my BUTT. I spent several hours down there trying it with a guildie to start--NO LUCK. I then read 2 pages of notes and went back to it solo on my arcane mage. I tried someones suggestion of putting down mirror image and hope one got picked up, no luck. I tried getting the escort in the way of one of them, no luck. I was going to try n use invisibility,pop out of lava, and pop mirror, no luck. If they would pick you up as bit more often, it might make it more tolerable. I am not saying make it totally easy, but c'mon.
I guess this one is going to be like the Blades Edge Bomberman was to my shammy--a LONG battle.

Kommentar von lostknight0727

Didn't really bother reading through all of the comments so not sure if this was mentioned. I noticed that most of the ones that did the special abilities were the grayish colored ones. Not too sure if this helps anyone, and if a priest could confirm this then that would help a lot of people out.

Kommentar von Kevindarkage

For the hunter's wild barrage i've found a way, finaly that works.

After several hours or farming all the hunters, trying to kite them into lava, trying to do mostly greyish ones and trying to do the one in the cave....nothing.....till the first one to Cast Wild barrage on me killed me with it because i was looking here for answers meanwhile :S

but noticed something, something very important. and tried it again and worked on the first shot.

DONT KILL HIS DOG!

yeah, if he's pet is killed he doesn't cast it anymore lol. you may confirm this by trying for yourself ^^

Kommentar von 575464

Been trying to get this for a while. Hunter being the pain as others say. I'd pretty much given up but today was AOE'ing hounds down, hunter agros so I hit invisibilty (mage). He then started the barrage, when I popped up he'd gone and the achievement dinged! :p

Kommentar von Schattens

It's accually very simple, all you have to is clear the area of every living thing while searching for the one Flamewalker Hunter that casts Wild Barrage. I found him on a respawn in an area I cleared All I did was strafe back and forth using my Q and E Key's a black spot never got close to me, got the achievement the first try.

Kommentar von tedwards

Did this achievement as a shadow priest today and tagged a sentinel with SWP and flayed him down until around 15% then ran close to the lava and sent out my shadow fiend... The sentinel grabbed the fiend immediately and I SWD and got that part done. The shaman was simple. The hunter took some time but I just waited in the area where you first encounter mobs and waited for the hunter spawn. I attacked and burned him down and when I saw the warning, I used my eng tinker and ran up the ramp.... Got it..15 minutes total for all 3.

Kommentar von 437051

A big thank you for who ever posted about going in circles for the Wild Barrage. I used it today - up arrow and left arrow at the same time to make a continuous circle while the barrage is going on. It worked perfectly the first time! I was pulling my hair out on the Hunters until I tried this tip! THANK YOU!

Kommentar von Wordsmith

Apologies if this has been posted already, but 300 comments? I'm just gonna hope it's unique. Most of the ones I read before my eyes protested suggest running in circles.

However I found an interesting (some might call it "cheap") way to obtain the Wild Barrage portion of this achievement. There is a cave further along where many sleeping Charhounds dwell that you need for the Hounds of Shannox. Now then, there is a hunter that will patrol through this area. I'll screenshot it shortly. A pet is helpful, but I don't think it's 100% necessary. Aggro the hunter within the cavern and the moment you see his barrage starting, zip around outside the (for lack of a better term) cave kennel to the right (there's a little nook) and wait out the barrage. A pet just helps you stand at range and sidestep out of LoS once the barrage begins, making it much more likely that you'll not get hit. But I imagine for melee any sort of dash or leap will put you in the right place quick enough. Even a bubble could do the trick for casters without pets to do the dirty work.

Edit: D'oh! Paladin Prae beat me to the punch. I just didn't go so far as to wipe out all the hounds in the room

Kommentar von 913516

Sentinel one doesn't work if you're in a group with someone who has already completed it. I'm not sure about the shaman or the hunter but I left group and got the achievement while the sentinel grabbed my Water Elemental.

Kommentar von a9eagle

Sentinel -
Got this achievement today as a Paladin using Cardboard Assassin

Got Sentinel to to 75%, Stunned
Dpsed him to 20-25%
Dropped Cardboard Assassin and backed up
Sentinel Picked up Assassin
Killed Sentinel and got achievement

This took a while, b/c the Cardboard Assassin is on a 5 min cooldown and The Sentinel didn't pick me or anything else up on my first 5 or 6 attempts; but if you're a class without a pet this option might work for you.

Kommentar von jumpalottahigh

I would just like to add that the achieve is soloable by a mage thanks to our mirror images. Just worked for my by a chance, 5 mins ago. Happy hunting achieves.

Kommentar von LorB

I was able to avoid the Wild Barrage by strafing quickly from side to side (feral cat).

Kommentar von Gresyth

Mages, Mirror Image for the Sentinel and Invis after the Hunter starts his barrage do indeed work. I just did both and got my achievement.

Kommentar von ronnieharper

As a fury warrior and engineer, I was able to solo this with an Elementium Dragonling. With the Dragonling, I was able to get two separate attempts because of its duration. Couple that with another pet trinket and you can cycle through them pretty quickly.

Kommentar von Aknazer

Just a heads up, but when I cast hex on the hunter who was casting the wild barrage I did not get credit for surviving w/o getting hit. Maybe some people got lucky or they patched it, but it looks like CCing them while they are casting the barrage doesn't give credit.

Kommentar von Toggol

The hunter's Wild Barrage ability has a 1 minute cooldown. Also, the requirement for him indicates that you only need to survive the Wild Barrage, not defeat the enemy.

Stand 15-30 yards away from him while he's barraging you, and run in random patterns away from any dark circles on the ground.

If you don't get the achievement the first time, leave him alive and just wait until he casts the spell again.

Kommentar von 927516

A friendly druid that was in the area was kind enough to help me get this achievement. We discovered that Bitterer Plörrbräuglücksbringer will work as well.

Kommentar von 922615

Finally did this after 3 hours on those damn hunters. I never want to see that cave again.

OK...YOU CAN KILL THE DOG! I had read that you can't but its not true.
Also...THERE IS A 60 SECOND TIMER BETWEEN BARRAGES...but he does let off 2 at a time so if you miss his first lot dodge his second.

Speed pots & RUNNING IN CIRCLES works the best. And if you do get hit, be patient...just run around killing other stuff till the timer goes down. If your a hunter yourself be sure & put your pet on passive. I was on my Hunter and was able to use pack too...his 'throw' spell doesn't cause stun...pack helped a *lot*.

Hopefully, you won't have the problems I did in getting this. So much wrong info....the lava makes no difference. Some do it but most don't. And the colour of them makes no difference either...it just seems really random!

Anyways, good luck!

Kommentar von andrew1506

How do i as Rogue avoid the Barrage from the Hunters, I have tried nearly every thing on here but just can't seem to avoid the barrage when he starts. Running in circles, q, a keys don't help, unless I am doing something wrong. I presume his barrage starts when he jumps back? I have tried to sprint away had a exilir or speed but it hits me all the time! How have other meless's done this or is it just luck? Please help before I pull my hair out?

Kommentar von 338023

Just got the Sentinel one because my spawn from Gurthalak 8D

Kommentar von 881202

Just run as fast as you can away from the hunter when he begins to cast Wild Barrage. After 3 days trying, that's what worked for me.

Kommentar von 153653

I would like to add that you DO NOT need a second party member to complete this achievement! You probably know the drill for hunter and shaman. Avoid Barrage from hunter and kill shaman with his own lava thingie.

But about the Sentinel that you need a grabbed ally, THIS DO WORKS FOR PETS AND MINIONS. I recieved this achievement today by using my Water Elemental. My Water Elemental just "tanked" it at once the Sentinel picked him up I killed him and got the achi. So it works if you have pet / minions too!

Kommentar von 660248

For enhancement shaman, you can also do this with ghost wolves.

Kommentar von 880370

For the Hunter and his wild barrage, I was able to LoS the whole cast and still get credit.

Kommentar von BullDozzer

I just completed the "while a sentinel is carrying a member of your part when the sentinel was carrying my Bloodworm :P So soloable by many classes i guess.

Kommentar von 944754

As far as my knowledge span goes, this achievement is unable to be soloed as a Hunter, Mage, or Warlock. I was sorta hoping the sentinel would carry my pet into the lava, but that doesn't work. :(

So, grab a pal and head on into the Molten Flow to complete this achievement.

Wilder Beschuss will leave black circles on the ground, avoid those to match this criteria!
Flammenwelle will be cast by the Shamans, in most cases the Shaman will have some sort of speech before they cast this - when they do look for a square spot of fire. Kite the Shaman into this location, then kill him/her.
Gegriffen is highly noticeable. The Schildwache der Flammenschürer will grab his target and dart for the lava that is...well...everywhere! So, once the sentinel grabs your friend, or a complete stranger, kill the sentinel! (Note: The player who has been grabbed, will not get this credit!)

Kommentar von gmyburgh

I had some trouble with the Hunter part of this achievement. This is not a guide on how to dodge the barrage itself, many other people already commented on that.

My problem was the fact that you have to kill about 3 shamans and 3 sentinels for every hunter, and then the hunter seems to have a small (about 1/4) chance to actually use barrage. So in short you have to do a LOT of killing, and then if you stuff up the barrage attempt you get to start all over. Was really really frustrating.

But this is how i solved it:
Once you finally find a Hunter that does Barrage but you fail to dodge it. Simply kill the Hunter's Pet, and then disengage (evade) the Hunter. If you then attack it again it will still have the Barrage ability, and you get to try again.
If you fail again, evade, and retry.
Once you find a Hunter with Barrage he will use it every time you engage him, so its very simple to find one and then re-try Barrage until you finally succeed.

Hope this helps someone to have a less frustrating time than I did.

P.s. I have bad latency, so dodging the Barrage actually took me several attempts.

Kommentar von hildyj

I just did the hunter barrage I tried many of the tricks here but what worked for me (balance druid) was just fancy footwork, running around hunter hitting with starfire

Kommentar von Cemlub

I just did this achieve today. The two most difficult was the sentinel and the hunter.

I think I found a good method to do both of them though. For the hunter, the hardest part was finding an NPC that has the ability, I think of the 30 I killed, only one had it. Once I found him, I ran away, let him reset, and cleared the room. The second time I approached him, he cast wild barrage and I tried holding the left and up arrow together (running in a circle), and it worked perfectly. After I dodged, I engaged and killed him.

For the sentinel, I had nothing except a Bubblier Brightbrew charm for a "party" member. I found a sentinel with the ability, and let him carry me into the lava, then, I engaged and reduced his health to maybe 1/10th of his health bar, then I used the bubblier brightbrew charm, and he immediately grabbed my little helper, I promptly killed him and got the achieve. I believe the sentinel will NOT grab the same party member twice in a row, so when you present it with a new party member, it will promptly try to use its ability.

Kommentar von DjKukuc

I decided to do this achievement since i was missing only the "Hunter" barrage.
I was reading for about half hour comments,trying to search for video ore any other useful thing.
Hopefully i found place in Molten where i can LoS and i DID it - so LoS-ing Wild Barrage works (or i was very lucky).

So yes, its easy and it seems almost every Hunter cast Wild Barrage as i did this at 9th kill.

Kommentar von 948030

Just did this on my rogue...brought a warrior friend to help with the sentinal grab...the shammy was real simple...the hunter however was tricky for my warrior friend at least...i got it second try by using sprint and running a circle around the hunter while the barrage was goin on...

the server was resetting as we were trying to get the achieve for warrior...was wondering if i used kick or kidney shot to interupt the barrage would it count for the other party member...? never got to try it, like i said...server maintennance, what a bummer..!

Kommentar von 241074

For the Sentinels, trinkets that summon a pet definitely still work. Took a while for it to happen but he finally picked a gnome from my Tiny Voodoo Mask to drag to the fire and I got it.

For the Hunter, it was a bit of a pain but you have to 'trigger' them to cast Wild Barrage; for me I killed their dog, did some damage, took a few throws then moved into melee, when he finally started casting it. Pop a speed boost, run around for a bit and you've got it. If you mess up just mark the mob and use a reset like shadowmeld.

Kommentar von anthonyg70

This quest starts with General Taldris Moonfall (45, 85), after turning in first round of dailies she will offer two more. Select Into the Fire to gain access to required area for quest. Complete the quest, and once dropped down into The Molten Flow area, you can start hunting down the Shaman, Hunter and Sentinel.

Hunter tips.

For Shaman: Put your pet on passive when attacking. Walk up to Shaman and it will start to attack. If it doesn't cast fire in first few seconds, enable aggressive pet and wipe it. It if does cast fire, take a few steps back to get Shaman into fire, then enable aggressive on pet and wipe him.

For Sentinel. Move your pet into path of Sentinel, make sure growl is on to attract attention. Let your pet attack, do not attack even if you get knocked-back. The Sentinel will eventually pickup your pet and carry it into the lava. Once in the lava start shooting the Sentinel, after first shot put aggressive back on and wipe him.

For Hunter. This one is pretty hard, as no matter how I moved he constantly hit me. Walk up to a hunter, about 5-10 yards, and fire. Stay close for spear attacks, but keep an eye on the ground for the marker (dark) spots. Sometimes he will jump back, this usually indicates barrage about to happen. Once you see spots, use the A/W or A/D key moves listed in other postings to avoid arrows. After about ten-seconds you will have finished. I have pet attacking entire time, and do attack until he begins barrage. Hardest part is not all will do the barrage, so if you are not seeing a spot on ground, wipe him.

Kommentar von 994457

For the Hunter's Wild Barrage, as a Demon lock, I did NOT have the demon out- (as having him out, AND hitting first but running in circles before the 1st hit, wasn't working) I hit him with BoA, made sure he HAD spears by getting hit, THEN started to run in circles, used soulburn, then instant Fel summon, corruption,CoE, and had the Fel use felstorm, all castable by moving. Worked like a charm!
Didn't even worry about triggering anything else, just kept running like an idiot. Got it 1st try THIS WAY.
:D

Kommentar von 998737

can anyone help me with some tips on how to do this solo as a warrior?

Kommentar von Scream26

To get the Flamewaker Sentinel's objective for this achievement solo, the following methods can be used:
Druids - If you're a balance druid, your treants from Naturgewalt can be picked up in place of a party member.
Warlocks - Any of your summoned demons can be picked up in place of a party member.
Mages - If you're a frost mage, your water elemental from Wasserelementar beschwören can be picked up in place of a party member. For non-frost mages, a mirror image should work.
Death Knights - Your risen ghouls and Army of the Dead ghouls can be picked up in place of a party member.
Hunters - Your tamed pet can be picked up in place of a party member.
Shamans - If you're an enhancement shaman, your spirit wolves from Wildgeist can be picked up in place of a party member.
Paladins - If you're a holy paladin, your Guardian of the Ancient Spirits from should work.
Priest - If you're a shadow priest, your shadowfiend from Schattengeist should work.

For other classes and specs - The easiest way to solo this is to have the escort quest Brauche... Wasser... Dringend.... Anren Schattensucher can be picked up in place of a party member. You may fail the quest, however, as he does not have very much health until you make your way through the area.

If you've already done this quest, any item that grants a temporary minion or guardian should work. This includes items like Bedienstetenglöckchen der Barovs and Elementiumdrachling.

Good luck and happy hunting!

Kommentar von Paraselene

Can you get the achievement credit for killing the sentinel while he is carrying you? I am having a hard time doing this solo with my paladin. My hunter got it while the sentinel was carrying her pet; my shaman while the sentinel was carrying her totem; my DK while the sentinel was carrying her ghoul. Has anyone gotten this achievement credit for killing the sentinel with a pally solo?

Kommentar von 858305

just soloed on my hunter! with setinal just put misdirect on my shot.

Kommentar von 1006211

AzraelUltima put it best on the Flamewaker Hunter's page:

The easiest tactic i have found so far is even simpler: Just run away from them. All spears will hit the ground behind you. They won't interrupt their casting if you get far away from them and their is no fancy dodging or anything required, running in a straight line works just fine. Obviously, this requires that you have some space to run to, but that is almost always given. The hardest part really is finding one that has and will use barrage

I was having issues with this part of the achievement, especially being on poor internet. This tip got me the achievement on the first try. Just make sure you have a clear path and gtfo!

Kommentar von pancakelizard

From a shadow priest's view going after this achievement, the only problem will be the hunter.

For the shaman, just kite him in the fire when he dies.

For the sentinel, dot the mob and wait for him to grab you. I casted mind flay and killed him.

For the hunter, have fun... (took me three days of trial and error to get this). I was able to get it by clearing the mobs on the 2nd portion (where the 2 hunters are, yes just nuke them down). Make sure all mobs that across are dead as well. Then go back to the bridge in-between the portion where the first hunter is and the 2nd portion. I casted SW:P and had him follow me to the 2nd portion. He stopped in the bridge but I had the whole 2nd portion of empty space to move around (also putting the camera above you and zooming out at max helps a lot). Once I noticed him casting the barrage and the black circles appeared, I jumped and spun around in a completely random orders -- once the barrage was over, I got the achievement -- before he died.

Also, I noticed they will throw several together (in groups of three, simply avoiding them is the majority of the dodging).

Kommentar von Fonzy

After spending several hours trying to solo the Sentinel portion of the achievement as a Ret Pally, I want to share my thoughts to save people some aggravation.

First of all, only a very small percentage of the Sentinels have the ability, but luckily they're easily to spot because they are a different color than the others (they are greenish, the others are yellow/reddish). They can take awhile to spawn, so I just circled around and killed yellow/red ones until I found a greenish one.

Second, if you are a non-pet/minion class, do yourself a favor and get two trinkets that summon helpers. Pally Guardians DO NOT count here, and cannot be targeted. I've tried. Personally, I used Rheas letztes Ei and Figur - Smaragdeber, because I was a jewel crafter. I probably would have used Figur - Khoriumeber instead of the Egg, if Khorium wasn't so expensive. Really, it doesn't matter what you have here as long as you have two ways to summon minions. That way, when you do find the right colored Sentinel, you'll have a much better chance of him targeting one of our dudes instead of you (67% vs. 50%).

Third, the amount of damage to deal can be tricky, as you don't want to kill him before he uses the ability, but on the other hand, you don't want him at full health when/if he picks someone up. As other folks have mentioned, though, you want to hit him with a stun or slow ASAP, once he uses the ability to make absolutely sure you kill him.

Last, make sure you're standing next to lava. I've heard if you're too far away, he won't use the ability, although I have not experienced that firsthand.

Good luck!

Kommentar von mcplus

I did this today as Prot Paladin. The sentinel part was the only one "hard" to get the achievement.

I mean "hard" because I did it alone, just using my Divine Shield when he grabbed me.
Kill him while you are under the effect of divine shield and thats it :D

Hope you can get it now easily ;P

Kommentar von 987495

So, this one was a bit of a pain. The main reason is that the Flamewakers do not always use their special abilities.

First off, in order to do this achieve, you must be far enough into the Firelands Invasion Dailies to open " Ins Feuer."

After falling into the pit, you will see all of the Flamewalkers needed for the quest.

Here is how I did it on my Arc/Frost Mage

Flamewaker Shaman - I got the shaman down to about 10%, then kept away from him hitting my defensive CDs until he cast Flamewave. I stood in the flamwave waiting for him to come to me. Upon "vent" of the flamewave, the Shaman died and I got that part of the achieve.

Flamewaker Sentinal - I switched to Frost Mage for this. I summoned my water elemental. It took about 10 Sentinals before he actually picked up my water elemental (either my elemental would kill the Sentinal or the sentinal would kill my elemental and I would start over). The first time he picked up my elemental, he ran away from me to the lava. I was way back so by the time I got in range, he was done. So, the next time, I positioned myself between the Sentinal and the lava. He grabbed my Elemental and I killed him. Done.

One thing I did notice with the Sentinal is that after I switched to Arc to finish the Dailies, one grabbed me an jumped in the water. I was able to kill him quickly, so I really do not think a "party" member is needed for the Sentinal.

Flamewaker Hunter - As others have said, this was the trickiest. I tried the trick of hanging around the corner from the cave of sleeping dogs, but the spears went through the walls. I tried using Ice Block, but Iceblock was about 1 second too short and I got hit with one at the very end. Finally, when the Hunter started his attack, I Teleported out and ran away. Lo and behold, I got the achieve. I didn't even kill the Hunter, I just ran and got it.

Kommentar von 1022265

Regarding the hunter and his Wild Barrage:
1. To get the achievement you must survive the ENTIRE barrage, without getting hit. If you kill him or interrupt him, ice block, etc.... you will not get credit towards the achievement
2. I attacked a hunter and he cast wild barrage, I got hit, so I cast Invisibility to break combat and try again with the same hunter. On the 2nd attempt, he NEVER cast Wild barrage and I let the fight go for 30 secs. So the ability is random.

Hope this helps, good luck

Kommentar von TandAshaq

i got the sentinal 1 by using the horsman's Baleful Blade :)

Kommentar von aliciana2

I was having a heck of a time getting the Flamewalker Hunter for this achievement. I had spent hours in that darned cave chasing those few sparse hunters. It seemed like no more than 1 out of the 4 seemed to have the ability. When I finally found one that had the ability, I tried using speed potions, speed buffs, strafing, running away in a straight line, using demonic circle teleport, avoiding the black circles on the ground, kiting them into the lava, running through and around the cave, etc. None of that worked for me (Worgen Warlock). Some how at least one spear hit me every time! The charhound also has a slowing effect so I was very, very frustrated and almost gave up on this one!

What finally worked was this:

1. I made sure to clear the area around the hunter and leave plenty of room to run without aggroing additional mobs.

2. I put my pet on passive and found a hunter that had the wild barrage ability (their color did not seem to matter as I had some of both of them use the ability).

3. I killed its Charhound and then ran away out of the Flamewalker Hunter's line of sight and allowed it to reset.

4. I then re-engaged it again and immediately began strafing using the {e} key as soon as it started the wild barrage; then immediately turned off my wifi connection on my laptop (I have a button on the keyboard) and continued strafing away from it.

About 5-7 seconds later I got the achievement and immediately turned my wifi back on. I still got kicked off and had to log back in, but I got it.

I don't know if I just lucked out, but just thought I would share it with others who might be as frustrated with this quest as I was! Hope it helps save someone else many frustrating hours in that darned cavern.

Kommentar von Kaeldraa

I have been having a TON of trouble with this one. I got the shaman on accident, he's pretty easy. The sentinel took a couple days but the hunter...
I have had 2 tickets open for this one, neither have helped. The most infuriating part is that I have my combat log open when he does Wild Barrage, and several times I haven't gotten hit! Still no achievement, though. Having problems with Death From Above and Ready For Raiding ll. Any help/info?

Kommentar von 983709

I just did this as a fire mage and as a frost mage for the party achievement. My tips:

- Keep the sentinel near the lava. That's where it brings it's victim.
- Avoiding the dark spots when the hunter does the barrage not enough, it seems. Focus on getting far away from. When you put the sound on you can hear the barrage hitting you if you mess up. It sounds like Cookie throwing food in Deadmines.

Kommentar von 1033893

You'll have to att the hunter till 50% of it's health and than he'll probally use wild barrage. You'll have to do it fast because he'll only use it before the 5 secs. This should workk ;)

Kommentar von JGPenfield

The hunter's wild barrage is the hardest to get. It is very important to remember that Wild Barrage is different from throw. Throw is used every fight. Wild barrage is used only occasionally. Throw is impossible to avoid and you can spend hours at a time and many days of trying and wondering how to get the achievement. Wild barrage on the other hand is much easier to avoid. I got my achievement by always accepting the daily quest for into the fire and targeting hunter after hunter and waiting for them to use wild barrage. They use it within about 10 seconds. I placed a ranged dot and as soon as I saw wild barrage over his nameplate I ran away behind a large rock. I got the achievement as soon as all his wild barrage had missed me and without killing him.

Summary: Wild Barrage is for the achievement and is different from throw.
He does not have to die.
You can't practice avoiding the Wild barrage by trying to avoid Throw. Throw is impossible to avoid.

Kommentar von Razko

The Sentinel part is bugged in 5.1. I both tried it with the pet solo method, and with a real party member. We double checked everything - I'm the one getting the killing blow, the Sentinel is nowhere near lava, etc., nothing worked.

Tried with another player now, this time I also checked if it'll help if I tag it first or he tags it first. 4 kills during grip, still no credit.

Kommentar von prefer2refer

I also believe this achievement is bugged as I have tried soloing the Sentinel numerous times where I have killed the Sentinel while it was carrying my pet and the achievement would not proc.

Kommentar von Dust

Strategy for that annoying hunter:
Tag him and then hold W + one of the direction keys, either A or D, to start running in circles. If he does his special attack, you'll avoid it entirely and get credit towards the achievement.

Yes, it really is that simple.

Some details:
You'll recognize his special attack by the black circles which begin appearing on the ground. You want to already be running in circles when he casts this special attack, which is why you immediately start running in circles as soon as you tag him.

He won't cast his special attack every time. If he doesn't cast it (no black circles popping up on the ground around your feet) then either kill him or get away from him enough to reset his aggro, and then find another hunter to try.

Kommentar von 960337

As of 5.1 the sentinel part of this achievement (still?) seems to be bugged. Some guy from another server and me tried this several times, tried to kill them before they reached the lava, after /reload-ing, relogging, regrouping etc and neither of us ever got the credit for it. The other two parts of this achievement worked just fine.

This appears to be a known bug, however:
http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/3553420482
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/7200184428

Kommentar von 623642

This is by far the easiest way to do this.

Kommentar von Vynillin

As of 5.1: For mages, I tried this trick with my water elemental and it doesn't seem to work. I've been attempting it for the last hour and a half. I've killed the sentinel while he was walking with my elemental and while he was standing in the lava holding my elemental and neither worked.

Kommentar von 823629

Used my nitro boots during hunter's barrage and just ran around and easily avoided it.

Kommentar von daaani

As of Tuesday January 22, 2013 this is still bugged! The part with the Flamewalker Sentinel.
is bugged! - I have submitted this as a Bug for more than a month !
Cannot complete the Flamewalker Sentinel portion.
I was in a party with a friend, Killed the sentinel right after it picked up my friend to be carried to the lava; killed it before the Sentinel actually reached the lava - WHILE it was carrying my friend.
And my friend actually did the same to me while the Sentinel was carrying me!
Neither one of us received that part of the Achievement !

Kommentar von Marhault

I got excited that I would be able to do this solo as a hunter with my pet. Have been trying it for a week now and it definitely seems the Sentinel is bugged as many others have already posted. The other two were easy to do the first time the abilities popped up, but I have had my pet carried several times and not once has that part of the achievement posted upon a clean kill.

Kommentar von Kylariel

For the Hunter, I noticed (at least personally) that I never came across a Hunter with Wild Barrage after farming for hours. Finally, in a desperate attempt to shed some light on the situation, I researched it, and decided to try lowering the health of the hunter to see if he would cast the ability then. Before my research, I would kill their charhound, then wait 8-10 seconds to see if they would cast the ability, and if they didn't, I would quickly burn them down. When I hit them once with an auto-shot, the next 3 of 4 Hunters cast the ability, no more than 3-5 seconds later. If you can't find a Hunter with the ability, try slightly lowering their health first, and see how it goes. It worked for me. Good luck, and happy hunting!

Kommentar von Holgerm

12. February 2013 - "Kill a Flamewaker Sentinel while it is carrying a party member" is still buggy.

I tried it with real people in the group also with pets and trinkets and mirror images nothing worked. I already got all other achivments.

Answer from Blizzard on my ticket.

vielen Dank für Deine Meldung.

Das geschilderte Problem ist uns bekannt und wird derzeit genau überprüft.

An dieser Stelle entschuldigen wir uns für den Fehler. Diese lassen sich jedoch leider bei einer so komplexen Software wie World of Warcraft nicht immer ausschließen. Aber wir versichern Dir, dass unsere Entwickler mit Hochdruck an der Beseitigung solcher Bugs arbeiten.

Mit freundlichem Gruß

Dein Game Master
Blizzard Entertainment Europe

Which means, "the problem is known, and we are checking it right now."

Kommentar von 1032463

Ok, about the Sentinel, can someone be kind enough and explain me, when party member get grabbed, does Sentinel has to be killed before he reaches lava (while travelling)? Because I have killed him few times while he was holding party member, but they were already in the lava, and no credit for it, even tho he was still grabbed in his hands....

Kommentar von Aestua

The Sentinel piece is possible to do as a Rogue, and perhaps other non-companion classes.

As a level 90 Subtlety Rogue, I was having the hardest time with the Sentinels for some reason. Even with an 85 friend for over an hour, it wouldn't credit, though we were both quite certain the timing was right at least a few times when it grabbed her and I'd kill it. Perhaps it was the /reload issue that some note above. But I couldn't get it.

I went back by myself the following night and, after reading that some abilities were still available when a Sentinel grabs you, thought I'd try Fan of Knives. Between that and the poison, got this achieve FIRST TIME in the lava the next evening, SOLO. Got him to ~25% health, he grabbed me, I fanned, BAM = Achievement (it was the last of the 3 pieces I needed). Given how hard it is to find people still doing these quests, thought it would be helpful for folks to know a solo kill is possible.

FWIW, I tried the Barov Peasants and Netherwing Ally but they simply died or despawned/died too quickly to be of use.

As noted above, in timing, Sentinels seem to grab you within the first ~10 seconds or they won't do it at all. Burn them if they haven't done so within ~10 seconds and move on to the next one so as not to waste your time. It seemed ~20% of them would do it.

YMMV. ;)

Kommentar von javalang

As of March 6, 2013 (patch 5.2) the Sentinel issue seems to be fixed. Successfully got credit with my Mindbender as the victim.

Kommentar von smackthekids

Easy to do solo with NO prior questing done for any of the Molten Front quests.
Run through the flames of The Furnace (south west on main map), most likely dying on the way. Rez and keep running. Last, die at the edge of the flames, use your ghost to pass the sealed cave door on the floor past the flames. Quickly rez after falling through.
Once inside:
Shaman: auto attack until its HP is low, wait for Flameweave and kite him inside it
Sentenel: wait awhile and he WILL throw you on his back, attack while he's carrying u to finish him off
Hunter: hold W (or Up) and A/S (or left / right) while he's casting, avoid shadows on the ground.
Super easy!
While you're down there, some of the NPCs u must chat with for Fireside Chat are there, no need to earn 150 Marks to access.

Kommentar von EmoSasuChan

When it comes to the Sentinels, you can also DoT them, then wait to be picked up and as long as the DoT kills them while they're holding you - you'll get the achievement, I know I did (as a lvl 90 priest).

Kommentar von WingsofThread

OK, so the easiest of these I found was the sentinel. Reading here it sounds like it has been bugged, but I'm guessing it's been fixed as I've gotten that progress several times throughout questing here for achieves. I recently (and finally!) got the hunter progress. For some reason this was the most difficult for me. I tried several different things that I read on here to do (i.e. run in circles!), but that wasn't working for me (frost mage). Finally I took my own turn. After agro I ran backwards, turned around and blink'd out of the way. Eventually the Wild Barrage caught up with me so I kept running a few seconds and ice blocked and then got the achievement. I know this doesn't help everyone, but hopefully it'll give other people a creative way of doing it :P

Kommentar von 719660

FINALLY got a Hunter to Wild Barrage on me. For months I tried everything I could to get him to do it. Changed Realms 2 weeks ago and they started Barraging. Not everyone but with more regularity. As a BM Hunter, I got the achievement by putting my pet on passive and Arcane Shotting the hound, turning tail and running. He Barraged but I was running in the other direction. The hound bit my butt a few times but I survived the barrage.

Kommentar von aaron22303

Okay, this is REALLY easy to do, once you know what to do. I would like to keep folks from having to spend an hour plus reading posts that aren't all that clear on the criteria and then trying them out. I'll make this easy: most posts are correct that if they don't cast within the first 5-10 seconds than they won't, in which case you frag em. If not, here's the criteria for each:

Sentinel: needs to pick you up and then you attack and kill. Simple as that...

Shaman: just stand there, don't attack him and let him burn himself down in "his own" flame and meteor thing. Simple as that...

Hunter: run the opposite direction until the attack ends. Don't bother trying to turn in circles, etc. as that didn't work at all for me. Simple as that...

Should take you less than 15 minutes this way and you can get on with your life, lol!

Hope this helps

Kommentar von Krowi

Has been fixed in patch 5.2.0 already, just wanted to let people know :)

Kommentar von 1058385

Idk if it was just coincidence or what. But the only Flamewaker Hunter's I've seen use Wild Barrage had a grey/black skin, while the normal hunters have the orange skin. And all of them used it rather quickly when I encountered them, but I did notice you have to do damage to them before they'll use it, i kited one of them around for a good minute and he didnt do it, so i decided to kill.. but as I was attacking he started to cast it but he died too quickly. And the technique Valdorock said does work. Just run in a circle using your arrow keys and you'll dodge every spear.

*Update* As soon as I tabbed back into WoW I was being attacked by a hunter with the orange skin, and when I attacked back he started to cast it. But I still think you do have to attack them to see if they have the skill.

Kommentar von Cowcaine

You can solo it as (shadow)Priest.

Summon your Mindbender or Shadowfiend and let it attack the Sentinel. When they attack, turn him into Defensive Stance. The Mindbender or Shadowfiend will keep the aggro, and because it's in Defensive Stance it got caught by the Sentinel. After it get caught (the Sentinel will be weaker because the Mindbender/Shadowfiend attacked him too) you just have to do a little damage to kill him. This worked for me after a few times :)

Kommentar von RussG

Anyone can solo the Flamewaker Sentinel with where a mogu guy fights with you.

might also work.

You need to make sure you are on the aggro list, but not moreso than them. Let them attack for 5-10 seconds then go do a white hit on them.

Kommentar von Sunreaver

Couple of notes - as of patch 5.3 there seem to have been a few changes (good ones).

As a lvl 90 warrior, I was able to get the Sentinel one solo. The mob picked me up and I killed him while he was carrying me to the lava.
The hunters that spawn with the Barrage ability are happening more often now - appears to be about 1 in 6 or so where before it was much harder to find one.
There is almost no time to start running in a circle before the hunter starts casting Barrage, so as a 90 I just keep running in circles as soon as I tag them. The first 3 times I killed the mob in the first hit, but finally got it on the 4th try.

Kommentar von Gerondar

Notes as of patch 5.4

The shaman and sentinel is super easy if you know what to do, the hunter one is a bit tricky.
Here's what i've done on my warr:
-taunted the hunter
-killed the hound
-ran to max range, and used "w", or "up" and the left and right (make sure that you can use your Thrown ability as a warr)

Use your Thrown several times, and he will use the Barrage ability.Avoid the damage, and it's done :)
Happy hunting!

Kommentar von Dedmeett

As of 5.4 (Jan 2014) The hunter part has seen an hour of my life go by that I will never get back. Here's why- Low spawn rate and low low LOW change of the barrage ability.
According to my log, I killed 55 and only saw Wild Barrage 3 times. And got hit each time...
I'm assuming the advise about "constantly moving back and forth" is bad advice.Just keep moving to avoid the black spots.

Sentinel was easy for me(DK) he died from diseases as he was carrying me.
And, of course, the shaman was easy- just wait for flame wave, drag him into it, and kill.

Kommentar von Alexandrias

There are so many comments on this achievement, the responses have become unmanageable for anyone who's trying to to do it now (1 of 267?). I didn't have any problems with the Sentinel or The Shaman, but The Hunter gave me several problems that I didn't see addressed in one spot so I'll try to put them here:

Wild Barrage

Trying to figure out which hunters have this and which do not is a problem. The first time I killed a hunter (before I was aware of the achievement) I saw him start to spell Wild Barrage and killed him instantly without thinking. Later, when I was TRYING to get the achievement, I couldn't get a hunter to do this spell to save my life! I sat there minute after minute (Level 90 Disc Priest) waiting to see if it would proc. I found another comment that said "get the hunter near the lava so he'll start the spell as they have to be enraged before it will go off" and I realized that both times the hunters started using the spells was when they were close to the edge of the road near the lava. If the hunter you want to do your achievement with is not Wild Barraging, get him close to the edge of the road and see if being near the lava works. If not, hit him with a small non-DOT spell to enrage him and see if that works. When I finally succeeded in getting Wild Barrage to proc with regularity, the Flamewalker's health was at 25%.

You Don't Have To Get It The First Time It Procs

If you've gotten your Flamewalker Hunter to spell Wild Barrage, you're halfway there. When Wild Barrage starts, the patterns change. You'll start to see big black spots on the floor (I had no problem identifying them). All you have to do is not be where a black spot is when the arrow gets there. It wasn't hard. There was plenty of time from when the first black spots started to appear to when the spears came down. If you didn't make it the first time, get used to the timing of the spell and you'll have no problem avoiding them at all. The black spots ONLY appear on the ground when the spell is working, so if you don't see them any more you know your chance for that cycle is over. Wait until it procs again - just make sure your Flamewalker Hunter is near the lava.

Circles Aren't Perfect

I tried the circle thing, but the randomness of it all didn't work. A black spot showed up where I was circling. Your best bet (even for someone with slow reaction time like me) is just follow the pattern of Wild Barrage for a couple of cycles and get used to seeing how the black spots appear. I didn't do anything fancy. I watched where the black dots were popping up and moved to a clear place immediately. It worked well. Someone said if you're a rogue, just vanish and the guy won't be able to hit you. I don't know if that's true, but that's something else to consider if you are of a class that can disappear.

How Do I Know If I Got It?

I saw this question and figured I should put it here since no one went to that page and answered it. If this is a problem for anyone, all you have to do is go into your achievements (press the Y key on your keyboard or click on the Achievements icon on your lower action bar to the right of the bulls eye), click on the Quests Bar, then click on the Cataclysm bar under that, then click on the Master of the Molten Flow box. The green arrows will show you which tasks you've completed. In my case, while I was fighting the Flamewalker a big notice popped up on the screen telling me that I not only completed "Survive A Flamewalker Hunter's Wild Barrage Without Getting Hit," but "Master of the Molten Flow" as well since it was the last of the tasks for the achievement.

Kommentar von Sulfurine

For the Hunter specifically:

Using any Nightelf's racial Shadowmeld should work easily once the hunter does his barrage. I did it on my druid, faerie fire pull, killed the hound, mighty bash. He started casting Barrage, I Shadowmelded, and he continued to 'cast' Wild barrage, without any black spots spawning, as Shavai mentioned in his/her post, because he can't see you. Once the cast was done, he then evaded and I got the achiev. Finally! Thanks to Shavai for the initial Vanish tip ^^

Kommentar von OpheliaRose

Just a little heads up, I was able to kill the Sentinel while he was carrying me and get credit for that part of the achievement. Reading the comments made me think you'd have to party up or have a minion, so just wanted to be totally clear!

I was actually really surprised as I hadn't realized there was an achievement or that the sentinels had these special abilities! He picked me up and then died from a DoT and I was stuck to his corpse for a few minutes. Then I saw this achievement page and realized what happened :P

Kommentar von sady1342

Just did this today on my retribution paladin.

For the Hunter, what I did is auto-attack it once, run a little bit away, and wait for it to hopefully start Wild Barrage. When Wild Barrage started, I ran around, trying to stay out of the black spots on the floor. DO NOT kill the pet. Killed the pet on the first few tries and the special ability never came up. The two times it did (I got hit by the attack the first time), I didn't touch the pet, and just auto-attacked the Hunter. Also, Wild Barrage started for me, both times, within the first 5 or so seconds of the fight. If it doesn't start by then, probably won't do it.

For the Sentinel, I auto-attacked it, then waited for it to pick me up. As soon as it did, I started attacking, killed it, and got credit for the part of the achievement.

For the Shaman, got it down to below 10% health with auto attacks (I took off my weapon for this part, might help so you don't kill it), waited for it to cast Flamewave, then walked it into the fire. Took two times to kill it, since I didn't hit it during that time and the Flamewave wore off.

Took me about 20 minutes altogether, including mistakes. Hope this helps.

Kommentar von eatwithfeet

I made an account on here just to post about this. If you're lvl 90 just white hit the hunter to get some damage on him and he will do "Wild Barrage". when he starts the cast push the up arrow and the left/right arrow at the same time... you look stupid but you will not get hit. wait until his move has finished, then kill..

Kommentar von 822354

I did the Sentinel part alone, with my rogue, he had DoT's on him, from poisons, he died right when he grabbed me, and i got the achievement, so, is good to know, works this way to, even if I was lucky, i mean, the poison didn't killed him b4 he had a chance to grabbed me, Is someone is considering doing it this way, my advice, use a less potent DoT.

Kommentar von 1306439

I would like to say just a couple of things so I can help the people like me to be able to attain this achievement. You have to do it just right, kill the hunters slowly (at max level this will be difficult to kill them as slow as you want). After a few second a rare few might cast Wild Barrage. Do NOT kill them during any part of the cast, wait it out, dodging every attack, then I suggest killing them immediately. (You will NOT get the achievement otherwise.) To get them to cast wild barrage or even throw (not the same thing) you have to be a certain distance away. Do not get too far away either otherwise you will loose them and the achievement along with it. While dodging wild barrage its best to stay in about middle range of the attacks and just dodge, I used my mouse. (I found that the arrow keys did not work for me.) I sincerely hopes this helps y'all. :)

Kommentar von galehorn

Re: Jäger der Flammenschürer

Not sure if this is relevant but I farmed these guys for quite while, each time hitting the Hound with a Spott which kept the Hunter at range and hoped for Wilder Beschuss. After many, MANY pulls still no Barrage until I accidentally charged one and after a single throw Barrage started. Maybe an auto attack/punch/whack with a stick is what it takes to activate, some kind of melee hit. Just throwing it out there as another possibility.

Good Luck!

Kommentar von 1256916

sentinel - i got picked up when my pet active, if your class doesn't have pet, use netherwing badge if you have any

hunter - easier if you got speed potion, like darkwater potion. just runaway from the shadow-like thing in the ground

Kommentar von maumaux

For those doing the hunter one you have to get him near the lava before he does his wild barrage

Kommentar von foxonstilts

Noticed an odd.. glitch? While doing this with my hunter. The sentinel picked up my pet and after he was killed, my pet got.. I don't know.. stuck under him? Haha. Either way, I had to completely dismiss my pet and resummon him to get him back.

Kommentar von Poikaer

Just completed this achievement today (0911/2014). I'm a level 90 BM hunter.

The Shaman was easy, just engage it, it will kill itself.

The Sentinel, engage it, it just picked me up at random as I was in its range.

The hunter proved to be the most difficult because despite all the advice of getting its health down to a certain percentage, pull it by the lava, etc seemed to have no effect for me. The barrage effect seems to be completely random as today the hunter I engaged hit wild barrage at 85% health when he was in the middle of the stone area.

Some tips, especially if you are max level.
1. Put your pet on passive. I used mine to kill the Hunter's pet but otherwise it was not part of the fight.
2. I un-equipped my bow and began to punch it to engage it. You don't want to fast kill this, just hit it enough to see if it will pop wild barrage.
3. Once wild barrage popped I stopped punching it and would just run around (clear the area obviously) as it finished the first round (after numerous failures I was caught off guard). The hunter would alternate between throw and wild barrage.
4. You need to be out of the black circles but you also need to be out of the trajectory of it as well. Be aware of where the hunter is in relation to the black circle. You will need to be to the left, right, or behind the black circle.
5. The hunter will pop wild barrage more then once during the fight as long as you don't kill it fast. I was on my 3rd attack of wild barrage during one fight and I received the achievement.

Kommentar von 1329875

There are no "Black spots" on the ground... and cant seem to dodgeit..... the dodging the hunters arrows part of this achievement even do-able still?

Kommentar von 1088957

As far i can see, no one has commented how to do this after patch 6.0 has landed.

This particular patch brought some significant changes to how to solo this achievement, due to the so called squish.

How i did this was as follow:

Shaman: I did absolute nothing but waiting for him to cast, and then make sure he stands in his own spell (flameweave makes a patch of fire on the ground, just stand in it with him, it doesnt hurt)

Hunter: The hunter was a bit more complicated. For the hunter to cast Wild Barrage he has to be enraged (you have to deal damage to him). However.. the squish made this rather .. hard, as it also buffed the damage you do against lower level creatures. So what i did was to take off all my gear, and then melee him just a tiny bit, and it worked! After that you just have to do what everyone else also have written about pressing the up arrow and left - or right button at the same time, as soon as he starts channeling.

Sentinel: The Sentinel has always been hard to solo. as it requires him to pick up something. This however is easier for some classes - hunter, shaman, warlock etc. have a big advantage on this one.
Again for this mob it seemed he had to be enraged to pick up my pet. So again off with the gear. But as it had to pick up my pet - and not me, i turned off everything from my pets attacks - except auto attack, and then hoped for no crits. And it worked! After 4 tries it finally picked up my pet!

Hope this can help someone with completing this achievement - post squish :)

Kommentar von 61213

Sentinel is easy now. A few others have worked it into larger comments, but here's the simple fact:

You don't need a group. Just go hit aggro one yourself, but don't kill it. He'll pick you up and then you kill it.

Kommentar von 1397137

Playing my level 90 Hunter in the Warlords of Draenor prepatch, my initial tactic was to simply aggro a Flamewaker Hunter and wait. I knew a single auto-attack would kill them, so I just aggro'd and left them alone.

This did not work. Well over 50 kills later, I still hadn't seen a single Wild Barrage being cast.

I then tried to do a little damage to them. Taking off all my items would reduce the power of my attacks sufficiently. And indeed: doing damage causes Flamewaker Hunters to leap backwards. On the third Hunter I tried this, Wild Barrage was cast. I was so surprised that I nearly failed to avoid all the spears!

I understand my experience bears little statistical relevance, but the method is worth a shot for everybody who, like me, is doing this during WoD.

TL;DR: It would seem as though doing (non-lethal) damage causes Flamewaker Hunters to leap backwards and, if they are spawned with the ability (see posts below), cast Wild Barrage.

Kommentar von jevans45069

Level 100 warrior. The "Survive Wild Barrage" criterion can't be met without some form of resurrection sickness at this point. Even bare fists instantly kill the target. After ~50 hunters, I haven't seen the barrage proc.

Kommentar von 1410499

OK, I just spent an hour in this cave and made a Wowhead account just to post my experience which seems to differ slightly from some of the comments I read here.

The Shaman was too easy, as stated in previous comments, just walk back a few steps and he'll walk into his own trap. I don't think anyone's having trouble with that one.

As a warlock, the Sentinel was also easy and I got it on my first try this way. Before engaging in combat, I had a Fel Imp summoned and set to passive (as I'm high level and had to be careful not to one-shot these flamewalkers). While I was hoping the Sentinel would pick up the Imp leaving me to kill the Sentinel, I was picked up. I immediately set my Imp to assist and it killed the Sentinel, granting me the achievement progress. No one else has posted this method working, though; so I wonder if it bugged and I got lucky.

As for the HUNTER - mind-numbingly aggravating. This took me about an hour. Unlike previous comments state, none of the 30ish Hunters I encountered used Wild Barrage within the first 5-10 seconds. I would usually wait about 30 seconds to a minute of no Wild Barrage whatsoever before killing them. It could be a coincidence, but the common denominator 4 out of 4 times I saw Wild Barrage was that I had attacked the Hunter. Unfortunately, 3 of those 4 times, my attack killed the Hunter before the Barrage ended. What worked for me was, about 20 seconds into the fight, auto-attacking him once, seemingly "causing" him to cast Wild Barrage, and simply holding W and D keys to run in a circle (as stated in previous comments) to dodge every spear successfully and finally granting me the achievement.

I'm posting this because it would have saved me a fair amount of time if I had this insight from the outset.

Best of luck to you! Hope this is a help to somebody.

Kommentar von kazana2

Manage to do this, after i remembered a little fact: the mobs do their special ability when damaged, and as you can imagine on lvl 100 1 hit even naked and unarmed kills them. Saying this i managed to do all 3 parts under 10 mins with 1 ressurection sickness with all gear on except weapon. Gl to all :)

Kommentar von Starista

For surviving a wild barrage:

If you are a high level player, die and get rez sickness.
You can then damage in moderation and have a better chance to see if the flamewaker hunter casts wild barrage.

I damaged a the NPC a little, saw the cast throw.
I damaged the NPC a little bit more, saw the NPC cast wild barrage.
I got hit by the wild barrage (by accident), damaged the NPC a little more, he cast wild barrage and I blinked away.

Didn't get hit once by the wild barrage and got the achievement.

Hope this helps!

Kommentar von Bikonito

I hope who ever made this achievement was fired.

Kommentar von DoraBre

I finaly do this HUNTER today on my shadow priest, after near 1hour trying to get credit for his kill. Achie earned also.

0. Advice: I put him on focus first....
1.[Do not kill his pet
2. I put all my gear in bags and use only mace, and hit him with auto attack. ONCE.
3. I run from him fast but not to far away. (when he was on 3000-2900 hp)
4..He begin to cast "Wild Barrage" at 2900hp, and then i saw black marks on the ground, avoid them all.
5.He star to cast again "Throw".
6.Kill him with SW:pain.

GL with him and be happy :D

Kommentar von Gencay

For druids one shotting hunter: unequip all items, turn bear and use faerie fire. If it isn't crit, hunter will cast Wild Barrage.

Kommentar von Celesteia

i hate this achievement... just because finding a hunter with wild barrage is like finding a needle in a haystack then successfully performing a evasion technique without messing it up OR someone messing it up by killing your mobs is fairly challenging at 100.
but with all the wonderful guides to press up and left or right to dodge I kept messing this up... as a mage I used blink and then blazing speed in the opposite direction of the cast the SECOND I saw wild barrage pop up and i was way out of the way during the channel so i finally got it. i can imagine bring potions of speed with you would work just as well!

Kommentar von gothicangel8

I tried and failed the hunter portion several times with the rez sickness method. My main problem was other people killing the hunters for the dailies, and the respawn wasn't quick enough without having to get another rez sickness.

Today I brought several stacks of Ez-Thro Dynamite with me. It only took one hunter, two rounds of dynamite, and about 2 minutes. It's cheap and a low level engineer can make it with 100 skill.

You don't need rez sickness or take off your gear or weapons. Aggro the hunter, hit him with dynamite, and avoid the attack. It only took me twice because I wasn't expecting the barrage right away. It does so little damage that you can use it several times on a single mob.

I hope this helps!

Kommentar von Antyvas

For those wishing to use some kind of minion, Kiste mit entführten Welpen and Der finstere Schlitzer des Reiters worked well for me.

Kommentar von Nejosan

Was able to solo this achievement as a paladin by letting a Sentinel drag me into the lava and casting Divine Shield on myself and then killing the Sentinel.

On a separate note, you need to autoattack the Hunters to cause them to jump backwards and cast their Wild Barrage ability (if they were spawned with it).

Kommentar von ericchub

I just found the easiest way to do this alone on a warlock for the Flamewwaker sentinel picking you up and killing him.(done at lvl 100) Take out your voidwalker, put him on passive, equip a low level weapon so you dont one shot the flamewaker sentinel, attack until you are picked up by him, and then put your voidwalker back on assist and BAM, completed :) next is just the barrage to avoid by the hunters and shaman walking thru his own fire and dying, Simple as pie!

Kommentar von Lynhowl

Not sure if this was mentioned before but, if you lure a Hunter into the trap of a Shaman to weaken him a little, it works as long as you lure it out of it before the fire kills it (by stepping a bit to one side once you see his HP down to half or less - if you walk too far away the Hunter will stop and cast Throw on you which is not the spell you are looking for).

Kommentar von 1500113

Surviving the Wild Barrage was the last step I had to take care of for the achievement. I was having issues damaging the Flamewaker Hunters at level 100, even without any gear. I had to resort to using G91 Landsharks in the end, to drop them to around 50% life (which can be slow going with a 1 minute cooldown). Then I found a Hunter with the ability, and it started its barrage, I threw an Freezing Trap on to interrupt, and got the achieve.

Kommentar von 1502119

For 6.2.0 patch, Hunter will use barrage if he's at low hp, as 100 lvl i couldn't do tiny dmg even with 0 gear on myself, instead i used Flamewalker Shaman's Flamewave to dmg hunter, and it made him to use barrage, that's all.

ps: sorry for my english >.<

Kommentar von Phish

Here's my 2 cents on this achievement. As a shadow priest (or even any class really) this is an incredibly annoying achievement. The ability is not dependent on the color of the hunter, whether it's near lava, or whether the flamedog is alive. I used Dominate Mind to find out which ones have the ability, and which ones don't. If they did, I dropped MC, killed the dog, equipped a random lvl 60 dagger (a normal 100 weap does almost 70% hp dmg to them), then bubbled. As soon as I melee them, they began casting. JUST KEEP RUNNING! The cast time seems to be about 5-6 seconds. Being bubbled (IE. the dmg being absorbed) does not count. Stealthing does not count. After over an hour of running around, and waiting for more to spawn, I finally got it by simply running out of range of his spears.

Kommentar von Intruder313

There's a some outright incorrect information about the Flamewaker Hunter's / Wild Barrage but having spent hours and hours killing over 100 of them I can tell you what factors matter and which are pure myth.

Lava enrages them: FALSE - funnily enough they completely ignore it
Clearing other mobs helps: FALSE - in fact this is the opposite of helpful (see below).
Wounding / Killing / Kiting their Hounds helps: FALSE - their pets are irrelevant.
Only some of them have the Wild Barrage ability: almost certainlyTRUE
They only do Wild Barrage if damaged: 100% TRUE

That final, key fact has been overlooked and was the big issue for me at L100 because I was unable to damage them without instantly killing them. Once I recognised that the ONLY trigger was damage I had this achievement on the very first Hunter I engaged that day. I then repeatedly tested the following and found it to be accurate.

Solution for high-damage L100s and the like:

Target or even Set Focus on a Hunter so you can be sure to see him casting.
Body-pull the Hunter and walk them over to a nearby Shaman. Don't rush off or he will sit and Throw. Ensure you don't attack either creature.
Body-pull the Shaman and hope he has Flame Wave (fairly common) and casts it on you.
Briefly kite the Hunter over the resulting flames which will burn off some of his health.
Watch that castbar! If you see Wild Barrage run directly away and jink as you go, you'll be out of range after the first few spears but he'll keep casting and you'll get the achievement!
If he does not cast Wild Barrage with a few seconds, he probably does not have the ability.
If he casts it and you fail, repeat step 4 and you might get another go before he burns to death.

Kommentar von Nevermoor

This was a frustrating one, to be sure. What I finally did to damage the hunter without one-shotting him on my mage, was to swap out my staff for one of my fishing poles, then got in there in melee range and slapped him with it as needed.

Kommentar von Sarthorius

As level 100 you can try the rezz debuff (fly high, drop mount and fall to death, on spirit healer, tell her to do her job and rez you there), so you get all your stats diminished. Aftert that, remove only the items with procs and go for it.

Kommentar von Artinel

Fun fact that I saw nowhere on this thread: if the sentinel picks you up and you kill him, you get credit. I suspect it just has to be you making the kill. Confirmed on my pally

Kommentar von AwScz

I must stress out few things:

1) Abilities like barrage or flameweave happen like with 20% chance. So if the NPC do nothing just kill him and move to another.

2) Shaman: must be killed by the fire ball impact. Not by the player - not by the flame.

3) Hunter: You don't need to be naked (didn't work for me anyway). Get Goblindrachengewehr - Nr. II - NOT require engineering skill. Kill the hound and stand back to hunter. Use the item and when it's almost finished - turn around and damage the hunter by it. If you damage him immediately you will run slow and get hit with barrage. Run in small circle around him.

Good luck.

Kommentar von Blightman

Is your awesome warlockyness slaying the foes to quick? Try this:

Get naked
Use Rain of Fire

Kommentar von baqqa

I got this idea after reading a comment mentioning a Thorns Buff, he got from some quest.

I found a nice way to do this on lv100 and probably even later. If you use items like Sulfuras, Hand von Ragnaros , Nagelring or the good old Essenz der reinen Flamme which do very little damage to your attacker (you can just turn your back and sit down to speed this up), they seem to trigger the Barrage "softly", plus you don't have to try above mentioned tinfoil-hat-stuff.

This worked for me repeatedly, after I tried EVERYthing mentioned in the comments here. Try it, it works perfectly.

Kommentar von Zebix

This achievement is tricky to get at level 100, because mobs are one-shot and you do this solo.

- the Sentinel requires you to have someone else with higher agro to get carried.
- you won't get credit for the death of the Shaman in his flames, if the flames are the only ones to make damage -or- even if you one-shot him while he's in flame (could notice the flame debuff).
- you cannot get the hunter to trigger barrage at 100% life.

I found good items to help you are the trinkets popping NPCs to help you, such as Kiste mit entführten Welpen. I used it on a Sentinel, and the puppies agroed him (I did nothing), and then I quickly saw "Flamewalker Sentinel says: How about a little swim, Kidnapped Puppy?". I proceeded to oneshot the Sentinel and got the credit.
Then immediately ran to a passing by shaman, which luckily enough triggered his Flameweave, Puppies managed to deal enough damage, Flameweave hit shaman and I could finish him and got the credit too.

Problem is that you haven't that many trinkets with this option, as it cannot be too weak (such as Rheas letztes Ei (item level too low -> your guardian gets one-shot) or too high (such as Anleitung zum Leerenrufen, the elemental is too strong and kills mobs in 4 hits).

So beside the puppies, I haven't found any other trinket so far..

Kommentar von brocksteven

One note: Do NOT try to fall down the hole on a mount - it will kill you.

Kommentar von Zerray

Okay guys, I just finished this achievement and let me tell you... this was such a pain that I created this wowhead account just so you guys don't have to suffer the same way I did. I will try and break this down step by step so you can all do this really quickly.

Step 1: Pick up a Goblindrachengewehr - Nr. II
- You will need this to lightly damage the mobs without actually killing them.

Step 2: By reading the other comments I'm sure you've gathered that not all the mobs have the special abilities. Well, after trying this achievement for way too long, I've noticed that specific spawn points of the mobs tend to have the moves you need just about every time. Here's the coordinates for the mobs that I found almost always have the abilities.
- Shamans: /way 45.79, 49.73
/way 49.40, 43.48
/way 52.47, 39.06
(I'm sure there's more that always have the abilities, but those are the ones I found)
- Hunters: These guys path around, but (and it may be a coincidence) I found that when I pulled the hunters
with the Dragon Gun at the same time as pulling a shaman (getting them both caught in the damage cone) they almost instantly started casting Wild Barrage. I realized this while at the very back of the Molten Flow, however, I completed the step of the achievement while on the middle platform of the molten flow and I pulled two hunters and one shaman all with the same cone of damage. They both started casting Wild Barrage and dodging the attacks was no problem as I just ran in circles around the hunters.
- Sentinels: These guys are the easy ones. I found that almost every single Flamewalker Sentinel has this ability so you should be fine to just hit him with your Dragon Gun, wait for him to pick you up, and then one shot him right after to earn credit for the achievement.

Step 3: (Killing a Shaman with his own flamewave) This is where it gets tricky. The Flamewave ability is mostly broken up into two different parts. Part 1 will put your typical raid fire on the ground that damages you and the shaman when you stand in it. It won't hurt you but it will hurt the shaman a good bit when he stands in it. This is not what you have to kill him with, however. You have to kill the shaman with part 2 of flamewave which is the actual burst that launches from the nearest pool of lava to the fire that is sitting on the ground. To kill the shaman with this you need an incredible amount of precision so here is exactly what I did:

- Activate Dragon Gun right in front of shaman
- Let it tick THREE times and NO MORE
- Pull the Shaman as close to the lava as humanly possible
- Let him cast flamewave
- Pull him into his own flamewave
- Let it damage him and hope that the burst of lava gets there in time to get the killing blow
- If the last step didn't work go to one of the other 3 shamans that always has the ability and try again

Not going to lie guys this achievement was incredibly frustrating, but I got it done and the reason I made my wowhead account and posted this comment was so that you all could get it done too.

This is my first wowhead comment ever and it's really the first ever wow guide I've made. I'm sorry if my formatting is garbage and I'm sorry if the directions are unclear. If you need further help and would like it from me, just respond to this comment and maybe I can add you on battle tag and we can talk it over. I want to make this achievement as easy as possible for everyone else and I hope I have done or will be able to do that for you!

Kommentar von Flobzy

A little tip for people trying to do this at level 100 and above.

To get the hunters to cast "Wild Barrage" You need to dmg them somewhat for them to start casting it. This can be a problem as you probably one-shot them, I suggest bringing some low level Engineering bombs to be able to dmg them and not instantly kill them.

(Also it was very easy do dodge the barrage using the engineering belt mod "Nitro Boost")

Kommentar von Liukkari

Had so much pain with the hunter!

Tried so many times on my hunter with Goblindrachengewehr - Nr. II over 30 charges and no luck.
Then finally I used ice trap for pulling and then used Dragon Gun and BOOM! barrage!
Dunno if it was luck or what, but I was so tired. So i just finished rest of the dailies and went sleep.
Gonna check tomorrow. :)

Kommentar von shamster

As a level 100 hunter, I killed myself, took the ressurection sickness to not one-shot the enemies, and stripped naked. This was I could simply auto-punch them without killing them.

For the sentiel I put my pet on passive and started punching the thing until he grabbed me. Then I simply used Kill Command for my pet to finish it off.

For the shaman I simply aggroed it and pulled it into it's own fire. I didn't even need to damage it.

The hunter, however, I had a bit of a struggle with as the "Throw" ability it did to me was not the one counting towards the achievement (but that was before I got the ress sickness). I had to kill several before one actually cast the ability. (good thing is that you don't have to kill the hunter to get the achievement, but simply not get hit through the cast time). When I finally found one that wanted to cast Barrage, I ran in a straight line away, and in a U to get back so it didn't reset.

Hope this helps others :)

Kommentar von 1584461

Strat for 100 Guardian Druid (that worked for me) for Wild Barrage Part

1. I killed myself in the lava and gave myself rez sickness

2. Kill adds around the hunter

3. Kill the pet

4. Use entangling roots on the hunter.

5. In bear form, use Faerie fire (it causes a small amount of non dot damage) until the hunter is about 25% health.

6. If the hunter has the ablilty, he will use it. If you get hit the first time, it is okay. Wait around for him to use it again, he will. Keep using entangling roots on him.

7. Once you notice him start to cast Wild Barrage, use Dash, and run away! BAM you got it!

Hope this helps :)

Kommentar von deluck

For the players lvl 100. All you need to do is kill yourself in lava and enter with ress sickness. Then taunt hunter (if the first one at the entrance got the ability) and kite him to the place where you've fell into cave. He'll channel the ability w/o spears flying out. Sentinel is easy for solo...just let him throw into lava (with himself too) and kill him THEN. Shaman is no comment, kite him into his own %^&*.

Kommentar von 1586885

For me the worst part was to get "Survive a Flamewaker Hunter's Wild Barrage without getting hit".
This is what I did: I asked a friend of mine (alliance priest) to help me. We both went to Molten Front and turned PvP on. Then, she used mind control on the hunter (we had previously checked he had the skill Wild Barrage) and she targeted me and used the skill.
Simple and easy =D
Since I am also a priest, I used Spectral Guise to help me escape.

Kommentar von Boxofbeer

Master of the Molten Flow https://youtu.be/xk0FL1Z0fdQ

Kommentar von Alamokok

Once I figured out that the mobs who have the ability are colored yellow, hunting sentinels became far easier. What was more difficult was dealing damage to them without killing them (due to stat squish and lvl 100) in order to get wild barrage to cast.

Instead, I opted to use the flamewave ability (cast by the shamans) to deal damage to the sentinels. The instant they took damage they started casting wild barrage. A minor issue is that the sentinels have slightly less health than the shamans and thus die easily, so it was a juggle to ensure they were not standing the flamewave when it was initially cast to avoid the first couple of ticks worth of damage.

It took me about 5 sentinels before I got the achievement, as the first few died mid cast in the flamewave. I recommend getting aggro on 2 sentinels before aggroing a shaman for the flamewave (in case one dies).

This is hands down the easiest and most consistent method of getting a sentinel to cast Wild Barrage for anyone who is likely to 1 shot them.

Kommentar von 83Gibbo

Found for Brewmaster Monks @ lvl100. Statue works as an extra party member for Sentinel, use Dizzying Haze to keep threat, cast Rushing Jade Wind for the kill. Kill the Shaman while he is being damaged by Flameweave. For Wild Barrage I had to remove ALL my gear, one tick of Crackling Jade Lightning causes the Hunter to enrage and begin the cast, use Up and Right (or W and D) to avoid being hit.

Kommentar von ljgard

this achievement is a %^&*ing pain in the arse. I have been trying to get a ^&*!ing sentinel to pick me up for ^&*!ing ages. I have another person with me, probably taunted between 50 and 100 sentinels and NONE of them have picked either of us up.

Kommentar von 1399908

For me, the Hunter only did the Wild Barrage in the subcave with all the hounds, which made it more difficult than I would think elsewhere, but nonetheless finally got it! :)

Kommentar von keshka4life1

one thing ill add just to make it clear the hunters dont all have the wild barrage all of them have a slower barrage that doesnt count, your looking for many spears coming out all at once with shadows on the ground to avoid

Kommentar von OCDCatLady

How I did this as a level 100 rogue (Legion pre-patch):

1) I found a hunter near a shaman.

2) I pulled aggro on the hunter, just by walking near him - I DID NOT HIT.

3) I killed the corehound, just because.

4) I walked over to the shaman and pulled aggro.

5) I waited for the shaman to cast flamewave, and used that to get the hunter's health down. Be careful - the burst damage at the end of flamewave will kill the hunter!

6) As soon as the hunter's health got around 25% (I didn't do the math but it was roughly that), it immediately cast Wild Barrage. I wasn't ready and got hit. I ignored this, killed the shaman, and went back to the area the hunter had originally come from, slow enough that it followed (so I wouldn't accidentally get too far from that point and reset the hunter, which happened on my first attempt).

7) It got locked on its "throw" spell, so I moved closer to it. It engaged me in melee combat again. I inched back until I was back where I wanted to be (this was the corehound area, so there was plenty of room without much else there).

8) I waited around a bit, holding the "up" and "left" arrow keys so I spun in a circle in that little room.

9) After a while, the hunter cast Wild Barrage again. I just kept moving and never got hit. After the spell ended, I got the achieve!

10) I closed my eyes for a few minutes until the dizziness passed. :/

Kommentar von Istaro

For the shaman part:

I got two shamans to die to the fireball at the end of Flamewave (and probably a dozen more died to the flames) and did not get credit for any of them. Possibly bugged in Legion (or in 7.1); anyone else tried it recently?

Kommentar von jjkyxr

When Flamewalkers take enough damage (and not die), those that have their hidden secondary spells enabled will use them shortly after.

As a lvl110, you are allowed to use that handy Weiches Schaumstoffschwert to make this achievement a breeze.

Kommentar von psir

Level 110:

It doesn't matter what colour the mob is, going near lava or if the hound is dead or not. The only thing that matters is that the hunter is damaged below 90% and the Wild barrage spell is totally RANDOM! I probarbly spent 2 hours doing this achievement. I actually didn't dodge the wild barrage fast enough 3 times, because I wasn't paying attention because I had tried for so long. When the hunter casts the spell he does it fast, so keep moving!

There's two ways to hurt the mob without one shotting them at level 110.

- Ress sickness with all your gear taken off.
- Buy or tinker a Goblin Dragon Gun, Mark II
- Buy Soft Foam Sword in Stormwind \ Orgrimmar.

You need patience and luck for this one.. happy hunting ;)

Kommentar von tekrebel

I just did this as a 110 druid. Took me about 45 mins to do this achievement once I figured out that most of whats written here has been changed in some way due to patches or stat squish.Here are some facts for this achievement.

- All these guys have 2 moves, if it uses one it doesn't use the other.
- Color has no bearing whether a mob does a move or not
- Shamens either have Flamewave or Leech
- Sentinals either carry or Slam
- Hunters either throw or wild barrage.

* Sentinel was the first one I got. If he has the move he'll carry you. Just use an AOE or instakill move. I used moonfire. Also he kinda just does it so being close to the lava decreases your reaction time window. I was about 10-15m away from lava

* You only get credit for the Shamen kill if he dies during the Flamewave's BIG EXPLOSION. Shamens have 9500 health and a tick of Flamewave takes off about 15%. After about 3-4 ticks it explodes. Letting him sit through 1 Flamewave with explosion brings him down to about 2200. You can do it with this much health but you have to be perfectly timed. The easier route is have him cast 2 flamewaves. What I did was let him get 3 ticks the first time, don't let him catch the end explosion. He should have about 6500 health. From there its just a matter of counting 1-2-3-4 explosion.

- Throw is not Wild Barrage
- He will only cast wild barrage if he's damaged. So either have him walk through a Shamen fire (one tick is enough) or bring something that will not scale to damage it. At 110, zero armor equipped, a punch in caster form still did about 124k
- Once he cast Wild Barrage, just run around in circles around the hunter. Default keyboard settins is A + W. If you get hit, don't kill the hunter. He will cast it about 20 seconds later even if you don't further damage it. Achievement activates once his barrage counter is done and you didn't take any hits. After that you can kill it. Took me 3 barrage tries to get the achievement.

Kommentar von Aros

I just did this as a 107 hunter. Based my tactics on what tekrebel wrote above but did not do it exact the same way. I used Soft Foam Sword to damage without killing.

Flamewaker Sentinel was easy. Once damaged it picked me up and then I killed it.

Flamewaker Shaman was a pain. I tried aggroing them with a Counter Shot macro that do no damage and then let the Flamewave do all the damage as tekrebel described and couldn't get it to work. Then I abandoned that and used the foam sword and then let the Flamewave kill it and it worked like a charm. I don't think it was the big blast that killed it, but it worked. Looks like you actually have to have damaged the shaman yourself for it to count.

Flamewaker Hunter was my biggest problem. Very few of them used Wild Barrage. I think that they may always go for Throw if you are too far away from them when you aggro and I initially aggrod by killing the Charhound pet with a ranged ability. When I abandoned that approached I at least got some barrages but I could not seem to avoid them by running around the hunter. I always got hit. Then I started to look at older comments and found that e.g. Intruder313 has a comment that states that you should just run away getting out of range. So I damaged it with foam sword. Waited not to far off until it started the barrage and then ran away and this finally worked.

Kommentar von ToniaPat

Ok, so i just did the achiev on my 110lvl mage. Everything i read was correct, except the hunter one. You just have to get resurrection sickness, get naked and punch him to 80% life. After that, he immediately cast Wild Barrage. Hope it helps :)

Kommentar von BeanTownBetty

Solo tips:

To kill the Flamewaker Shaman with his own Flamewave I found that in order to achieve this, he has to die the first time. So just position him where the ball of flame lands and BAM!

For the "Surviving a Flamewaker Hunter's Wild Barrage without getting Hit" had a little trouble with surviving the wild barrage until I realized that my graphics were turned down and I didn't see the black spots. I was on an old laptop at the time so couldn't change the graphic without a lot of lag so I switched to a new computer with better graphics and then had no problem seeing the black spots. Also - being level 110 I used a level 278 wand (all other gear stayed the same) and hit him a few times to reduce his health (without killing him), then ran and was a safe enough distance when he started the wild barrage. It worked on all the hunters so you don't have to wait for the "special" hunter.

For "Kill a Flamewaker Sentinel while it was carrying someone" was the easiest as once I aggro'd them, they all wanted to pick me up. I was a little concerned being a big female dwarf (I am named Bigbetty for a reason), but they managed none the less. Just make sure you kill them before they drag you into the lava.

Hope this helps!

Kommentar von Erynion

Ok so I managed to do this ach after taking way longer time than necessary. The mechanics of this ach are so broken and tedious it feels like you are trying to break the game and not to do a simple ach. I highly suggest having Weiches Schaumstoffschwert before trying to do this ach, if not you can do the naked/ress sick strat when you need to dmg the mobs but it's way easier if you just have this toy.

Schildwache der Flammenschürer: Just hit him once with Weiches Schaumstoffschwert and he should be about 10% hp left. After few sec he will try to carry you to lava. Just use any ability to kill him before he drops you. You need to dmg him otherwise he just ignores carry and auto att/Slams you.

Jäger der Flammenschürer: Find a hunter that actually has Wilder Beschuss ability. He needs to be damaged to actually cast barrage. It's not true that hunters have either barrage or throw, the one I got my ach had both. Cast on barrage seems at random you just need to dmg him and wait to cast it. As for avoiding the barrage default settings W+A/D work.

Schamane der Flammenschürer: Oh boy, prepare yourselves for this one. Ignore all other suggestions in comments, there's only one strategy that works on this one. First you need to find shaman that actually has Flammenwelle. If he doesn't cast it in 5 sec, kill him find another Shaman. The strat for this one is next: you basically need to set his hp to be low enough (around 10% or one hit from Foam Sword) to die from last tick of Flamewave. He NEEDS to die on explosion tick (last tick) of Flamewave, it also needs to be first Flamewave he casts. You need to kite him near AoE and then guide him into it to die at the exact last explosion of Flamewave. Too early or too late and you've failed. I got the credit for Shaman 5 sec later after I killed him as if the game itself was too reluctant to finally give me the ach.

Took me more than 40 min for this ach. Good design, horrendously broken mechanics.

Kommentar von SoulScorpion

Had problems with the Shaman not counting when they died in their fire.
After a while of trying, I rounded up 3 of them and let them gather on me and put their fire patches on me. This worked and I got credit towards the achievement.

Kommentar von gathorga

Finally got this achievement had the shaman and sentinel parts done from back in cata when doing the dailies but the hunter part was so hard to dodge. After a long time away from doing old content i came back to this the comments do help on how to avoid barrage the hard part is finding a hunter that actually uses it took me many runs around the place before i could find one and just kept letting it attack till i could be successful in dodging its barrage.

Kommentar von Mortaekami

The hunters will not use Wild Barrage unless you damage them. Ignore comments that say you have to clear all enemies from the area, kill the hound first, drag them near lava, etc.
The trick is to damage, but not kill, them.
The problem is that at 110 it's basically impossible to avoid one-shotting them.
After a few dozen failed attempts, I went to the auction house and bought a stack of Ez-Thro Dynamite II (60 second cooldown). One stick will take them to around 50% health.
Not all hunters have the Wild Barrage ability, but I got lucky; the first one I hit barraged. He hit me the first time, but he started another barrage around 30 seconds later which I avoided, getting the achievement.

I tested this method on a few subsequent hunters to confirm it works.

Kommentar von zefyre

I recently tried doing this achievement myself, and even ended up contacting support for it, which was little to no help. (paragraphs below being the reply I got)

I checked into this for you just now, regarding your problem with your achievement, firstly we have no way to verify you doing it as its done in a way the logs would not be able to verify but never fear, I often go back and try older achievements but we are too overpowered. As such we found that the Foam sword toy is the best way to get this done, you said you tried a few things so you might have done that already but there is not much more you could try.
You can of course report this as a bug ingame and await any possible patch, and keep trying each week when you can spare some time then one day it will simply pop for you.
It was a pleasure to have dealt with your issue today and can carry on now with no further issues :)

All in all, this was not very useful. The conclusion I have reached is that the achievement is just completly bugged and they basically said "Keep trying until you magically get lucky and it does work". (Unlike what was suggested, the Soft Foam Sword toy does not work for me.)

While doing it again today, one of the Shaman killed itself in with a single one of it's flamewaves without me damaging it at all, which had never happened before at this point. I'm not sure what caused it to do more damage this time, but it ended up giving credit the achievement.

Figured I'd post this to let you know that if it seems bugged, that's most likely because it is and Blizz customer support will not be helping you.
Hope you have luck on your side when trying to do this achievement!

Kommentar von Matiotwk

MAX level players!

Use the toy Weiches Schaumstoffschwert to enrage the Jäger der Flammenschürer. Does the trick to start their Wild Barrage.

Kommentar von MadameDarkness

As a level 110 frost death knight ilvl 931, here's my method using tweaks from the other comments :)

Sentinel - Applied DOT (Howling Blast), then he picked me up (I didn't have any pets of any sort to use and this was an accident but it worked!) and then Sentinel died from DOT.

Hunter - For this I needed to take all my armour off to punch him and engage fight as others have said, then run straight away from him using any sort of speed enhancer to dodge the arrows (used Wraith Walk in this case to escape him)

Shaman - This took quite a bit of work, as they do not die from just one Flamewave due to the new level scaling feature I believe. I removed some of my armour and reduced him down to 20%, then kited him as he hit himself with multiple Flamewaves until he died. Key part of this is you need to tag him before he dies as the kill won't count if you simply just hit him with multiple Flamewaves over and over again.

Kommentar von Lharzriyal

Priests can mind control an enemy and make a sentinel pick it up for that portion of the achievement!

Kommentar von Epytropos

As of a few minutes ago regarding hunters barrage - I know there's already lots of info but some of it appears to be wrong/outdated:

It *is* a random hunter ability - if they don't have it, they won't develop it.
It *does* have to be near lava.
It *does not* require the mob to be low on health - if they don't do it very early, they don't do it, don't bother slowly beating your naked body against them trying to lower without killing.

Kommentar von Smabre

At 110 use Soft Foam Sword toy on a flame hunter to daze him. While he’s dazed press up arrow and right arrow at same time. Once you find one that casts barrage just keep holding the arrows and you’ll dodge every one of them.

Kommentar von honny78

Imposible to complete at level 120, flamewave always miss mob.

Kommentar von EllaMayo

At Level 120. The best way I found to get the Flamewaker hunter to cast Wild Barrage was to use the Soft Foam Sword and when he was dazed try run away. I am a hunter so I used Disengage and then continued to run away. Sometimes the Flamewalker Hunter would cast Throw and then immediately after would cast Wild Barrage. When he is casting Wild Barrage just try to dodge all of the arrows. The first time I tried this I got hit by an arrow and I just reset the Flamewalker Hunter and tried again and I was able to get the achievement.

I've tried everything people have recommended here but this was the only way I was able to get this to work for me. After using the Soft Foam Sword just keep running away and once he casts Wild Barrage then stop running and just try to dodge all of the arrows. This didn't work every time but I was able to get this to work a few times which was more than anything else I had tried so I wanted to add this case it worked for anyone else.

Kommentar von ISpawnFuries

Oh boy. This took a lot of time and caused me a lot of frustration.

The Schildwache der Flammenschürer part is easy. Just engage them in combat and wait until you get carried away by them, then kill them. I don't remember if I had to hit them with the Weiches Schaumstoffschwert or not, but I'd do it just be safe.

Jäger der Flammenschürer is another easy one, as long as you have the Weiches Schaumstoffschwert. Kill the dog, then hit the Hunter with the Sword, and run away and wait. The Hunter will be stunned for a couple seconds due to the sword. If he doesn't cast Wilder Beschuss within 5 casts, kill him and try again. According to another comment, the yellow or yellow/red ones seem to have it more often. Once he does cast it, all you have to do, as noted in other comments here, is run in circles until the cast finishes (Hold Forward+Left or Right) and you should get it once the cast finishes.

The Schamane der Flammenschürer part is what took me the longest. With 2 squishes under WoW's belt, it took some time. What I did was I rounded a couple of them up, hit all of them with Weiches Schaumstoffschwert and stood there as they continuously cast Flammenwelle on me. Their health won't go down, but eventually, given enough time, they will die.

Hope this helps, and happy hunting!

Kommentar von DrunkenHyena

With my priest I Mind Controlled quite a few of the Hunters and most of them did NOT have the Wild Barrage ability. If you know a friendly priest they'll be able to help you find a hunter who does have the ability pretty quickly.

Kommentar von Luriell

We couldn't complete the Shaman part, even aggroing 6 of them, getting all of them to low hp with foam sword and waiting for 10 minutes, none of them died.

What finally helped, was mind controlling one Shaman and casting flamewave on another. They both died and we received the achievement.

Kommentar von Viruzzz

Not all of the NPCs that spawn have the required skills, it seemed to be about half of them would never use the skill, but it's fairly quick to check, just whack them with the Weiches Schaumstoffschwert, wait a few seconds and if they don't use it they wont ever use it. The sentinel may take a little bit longer before he uses his grab ability, but the hunter and shaman will use them almost immediately, after only a few melee swings.

The sentinel and the hunter are pretty straight forward, kill the sentinel while it is carrying you and run around avoiding the arrows from the hunter.

The shaman is difficult, because even though he will cast the ability fairly often it will miss on both you and him. But it is not impossible, I recorded a short video where I got the shaman to hit himself (https://youtu.be/yETSBEjeFoQ) It isn't a guide, it's just to demonstrate that it is possible to do on your own without a priest to mind control (although if you have access to that it's probably way easier)

I tried for a good while before I got the achievement but after I got it I kept trying to see if i could reproduce it, and it seems like in order for the shaman to damage himself, the spell has to hit you, so i used the trick with /sit because while you sit down you cannot avoid hits, they will always hit and always crit. This still didn't work all the time, but it worked maybe 1/20 flame waves. I did /sit both when he cast the spell because i noticed it made me stand up so i guess there's some kind of hit-calculation at that point, and also when the fireball landed. It still only worked rarely, but as the video above shows it does work even if you don't have a priest to help you.

Kommentar von Deliriium07

I just soloed the Flamewalker Sentinel by aggroing him with an interrupt (solar beam in my case), letting him pick me up and then killing him while he was holding me in the lava.

I'm an ilvl 467 balance druid.

Kommentar von DWRedgun

Sentinel: This was easy. Hit him with the Foam Sword, wait for him to pick you up, and then kill him. I'm a 120 Mage with a 337 ilvl and one-shot him no problem. Any 120 can one-shot anything in here.

Shaman: I had some issues with the Shaman as well. So I kept trying the same strategy. Hit the with the Foam Sword, and then just make them stand in their own fire while the big fireball of justice came raining down. At first, I grabbed two Shaman and hit them both with the Foam Sword and waited. Nothing... they both died eventually and I didn't get the achievement progress; however, they died when the Flamewave wasn't even there. So I grabbed another one and it worked. I only pulled one Shaman, then I waited and eventually, the Flamewave actually damaged him. All the other times it didn't do anything. So just keep at it!

Hunter: I read the recommendation about the priest mind control and I think that's a neat trick. But I wanted to solo this, so I just kept trying hunters until I got it. Kill the Charhound, hit the Hunter with the Foam Sword, run away (blink, disengage, whatever), and don't get hit by Barrage. Most of them do not have barrage so it's just a process of finding the right one.

Side note: If you listen to the Prophet of the Flame carefully when he says "None escape the rage of the Firelands" it sounds just like Will Ferrell lol

Kommentar von Nitramko

So for anyone trying to do shaman part of achievment. I manage to do it via party sync feature ... you just need to met low lvl which has Molten Front open or get a friend to do quests in hyjal for getting to Molten Front and party sync with him :)

Kommentar von kerbyn

You can still solo this in Shadowlands.

First kill the shaman with his flamewave to get a feel for how it works. (3 hits needed i believe)

Then, pull one shaman, and one sentinel.
Let the shamans flamewave hit the sentinel once, he will then pick you up. Once picked up, use any aoe. I used consecration.

Then do the same with a Hunter. Pull one hunter and one shaman. again, let the hunter get hit by the flamewave once, and hopefully he will throw wild barrage just after that.

I had some issues getting Wild barrage to trigger so it took me a couple of tries, but other than that, it worked!

Kommentar von Otaku0101

Since the Foam sword seems to have stopped working I would suggest using the toy called "Whole-Body shrinkah´" to bring the mobs hp down :)

Kommentar von Anoyo

As of patch 9.0.2 the Weiches Schaumstoffschwert can once again be used for this achievement.

Kommentar von Shashakiro

Finally got this today after going through maybe 30 Hunters trying various things to make Wild Barrage appear. Got it after reading more recent comments and discovering that Wild Barrage is a RANGED ability that the Hunter (if he has it) will only use at range AND low HP.

For Wild Barrage to be used in 2021, ALL of the following MUST be true:

-Hunter has the ability
-Hunter has low HP
-Hunter is not in melee range
-Hunter has not used Wild Barrage before

IMO dodging the attack is much, much easier than finding it.

Kommentar von Coofer

For those confused for how the Shaman-suicide mechanic works (him not dying immediately), he only takes damage from his flame attack AFTER he runs out of mana. So, that's what you're looking for.

Kommentar von Reeltreble

Any one else with a level 50 Demon Lock having a lot of trouble with the Hunter? After many attempts it appears my guardian Wild Imp (not my summoned demon) kills the Hunter if Lock attacks (Soft Foam Sword even) to try to enrage the Hunter. I can't get the barrage to activate because Lock can't dismiss the guardian imps, even with cool down there is always ONE imp active. Any help with this would be appreciated. Didn't know where else to ask for help with this, so please don't down vote. TIA

Kommentar von Gaara3San

I completed all 3 parts of this achiev today (9.2.5) as a lvl 60 firemage.

If Flamewaker does not use ability which u need in 10 seconds, just kill it and find new one. Only some of Flamewakers has ability which you need.

1. Kill a Flamewaker Shaman with his own Flamewave
- Hardes one, seems to be bugged cos shaman does not take damege from his own spell most of the time.
- Stay on Flamewaker Shaman and wait few minutes, dont do any damage to him.
- If this shaman is under 100% by himself, he is right one and wait as long as he dies.
- They dont get damage from each spell, but sometimes they got few % of hp down, it takes time and some tries but you can do it!

2. Survive a Flamewaker Hunter's Wild Barrage without getting hit
- Run around hunter, while he is casting on you just avoid black marks on ground, kill him after it or evade him.
- You can run away from him, I get credit just by evadeing him after his cast finished.

3. Kill a Flamewaker Sentinel while it is carrying someone slain
- Take down your weapons and do damage only by fists.
- Get Sentinel under 90% hp, mine was at 85%.
- Spam some insta (I used fireblast) ability to him while he is carrying you and kill him as soon as you can.

Kommentar von ScreamOutTears

Idk but in Dragonflight the Shaman take 0 DMG try it on many Mobs but when I find one who drops after the first spell a little bit down from hp he is in 2 sek full Hp.
It is impossible.

Kommentar von deepspace8

Don't waste your time with this. Now that rez sickness is just 1 minute, it is no longer possible to interact with the Shaman with rez sickness. I spent hours trying to do this. Just don't bother wasting your time.

Kommentar von Bhoso

I have to say that this achievement is completable as of 30.1.2023 in DF. I have finished this today after losing my mind for a while.

First of all make a makro that says /sit. You cant dodge even on level 70 when you are sitting, what seems to be the issue. The flamewaves arent hitting you - shamans also dont get hit. So by my deduction, you need to get hit for the shaman to take damage.

All you need to do is pull a few Flamewalker Shamans (best spot is /way 50.0 40.3), kill of those who dont cast flamewave. I ended up with 2 shamas.

Hit both with Soft Foam Sword.

Wait until they use up their mana - they will have like 8% mana left.

Start spamming the /sit makro when a flamewave is about to hit you.

It might take a few minutes, but you will get the achievement. :)

Kommentar von quvalek

I've tried for like an hour using this method and I managed to get it while I had 4 Shamans casting on me. Once on wave landed, they all died and got the achievement.

Kommentar von Sniffer94

THIS IS WORKS IN 10.1.0 DRAGONFLIGHT

Flamewaker Hunter: I pulled about 7 different Hunters and then they just started casting the Barrage. Don't remember if I used the Soft Foam Sword for it to proc. It's izi to avoid btw I just heroic leaped and ran to the right (fought in a circualar area

Flamewaker Sentinal: Use Soft Foam Sword, wait for him to pick you up. Kill sentinal. I did Whirlwind.

Flamewaker Shaman: This was terrible hence why you're here. Did this as a 70 Warrior. I removed all my gear. Went to a place where I could pull 5 of them at the same time. Used Soft Foam Sword on all 5 Shamans, made a /sit macro, bound it to 6. Spammed it, 20 seconds later all of them died and I finnished the Achievement.

Kommentar von SaarCOOKIE

For the shaman/sentinel I followed the instructions in the comments here and those worked well.
For the hunter I really struggled, however the ONLY hunter that it managed to work with for me was the one walking in the cavern with all the charhounds at /way 41.59 42.95 , I have no clue if this was coincidence, but worth trying it with that one.

Kommentar von Soulkeeper1987

I was attempting this today, and for the life of me I could not get the hunter to do its wild barrage.
I aggroed 10-12 different hunters, and they would only stab or throw, until I used the foam sword on them.
The very first one i used the foam sword on immediately used wild barrage after becoming un-stunned. The trick for the shamans worked perfectly as described.
I had trouble doing it with just 1, but when I got 2 it happened very quickly.
This is with a fully leveled DragonFlight character.
I don't know if it makes a difference but I made sure to take off all my clothes except my weapon when doing this.
I already had the sentinel achievement from god knows when so I am not sure if the same technique still works.

Kommentar von lauwow

Just got it today, It can be done.

Flamewaker Hunter: I keep trying different one, if they are not usiing the skill in the first 10 seconds, kill it, go to the next one, if you got luck and it start shooting, run as fast as you can, use any skill etc, and you will get it, if not, go back and tunt it again and run again. I didn't use Soft Foam Sword.

Flamewaker Sentinal: Use Soft Foam Sword, wait for him to pick you up. use any AOE to kill it.

Flamewaker Shaman: very difficult. more deap inside the cave there is a island shape place where you can pull 5 of them at the same time. remove all the gear, Use Soft Foam Sword on all 5 Shamans, gether them around, and adjust the camera so you can see yourself big and clear, press sit down and you will get hit and stand up, press sit down again, keep doing this for about 2 mins, I get the Achievement.

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