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Kommentar von The0o

New name : The Iron Price
From A Game of Thrones

The iron price is a concept in the culture of the ironborn, and their local religion of the Drowned God. Paying the iron price means seizing something from those one has defeated rather than paying or treating for it. Thus, it is a primary aspect of the "Old Way", the traditional lifestyle of the ironborn.

The opposite of the iron price is "the gold price" - paying for possessions - which is considered shameful for a man to pay.

Kommentar von Silhac

Upon entering the room where Gruul is, pan your camera towards the ceiling. In a small triangle formation around the center ring of the ceiling, there are three clickable ores. These are the Pristine True Iron Ores you need to collect for the achievement. Of course, they're all the way up there and we have no way of flying, so how do you get them?

Simple, get a lift from Gruul...specifically, his overhead smash ability. You have to have enough health or mitigation active to be hit head on by it and get knocked up into the air, just high enough to where you can click one of those ores to pick them up at the peak of your trajectory. They're far apart enough, however, that you'll need to do this three times separately over the course of the fight. Once all three have been grabbed from the ceiling after smash-jumps, you're free to kill the boss. Just make sure that whoever clicked on those ores stays alive to the end, that's likely part of the requirement (we didn't get a chance to actually test this as it was discovered during mythic testing).

Enjoy, achievement hunters~

Kommentar von chalon9

What is dead may never die.

Kommentar von Chumpacabra

In my attempts to get up there while tanking Gruul I noticed that I simply wasn't flying quite as high as the others in my raid when hit by the overhead smash, so either tanks are prohibited from doing this achievement for their raid or there is some user error on my part.

Kommentar von Birckin

Quick tips you may find useful:

As Lucivero said, we were misunderstanding how the knock-ups work. The farther, the higher.
Position the boss at the entrance, you can get two ores from there (the farthest ones). Move the boss to the opposite side for the third one. Don't move it too far though, or the boss will throw the player too fast and it will be harder to click on the ores.
Put a mark where your raid should stand before the Überkopfschlag (it targets a random raid member) so the ability is casted just below an ore.
The ability has no specific timer and seems to share CD with Versteinerndes Schmettern (so if the boss casts Petrifying, don't expect a Smash before the cleave). Stack when it's safe after Infernoschlitzer, and move back to the two group positioning before the boss reaches 100 energy.
Fall damage can easily kill you, someone who can avoid or mitigate fall damage is more useful. If you are a mage, I found better to cast slow fall before the smash.

I hope this helps ^^

Good luck with the achievement! :)

Kommentar von 1067171

Does anyone know if the whole raid gets the achievement if one person collects all three? What if seperate people get one ore each?

Kommentar von HolsUldum

Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFOuu89Nwyk

Kommentar von MoDiFiEdLoRd

Completed this with the guild.

Check where the ores are located on the ceiling and tank the boss as far away as possible so the smash attack throws you into the air.

Ask a mage for slowfall so removing the fall damage!

Video from Glory of the Draenor Raider playlist

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwziEANAZoQ&index=6&list=PLwDwW2m_U9-PUcGaFWHkTXN2OMMFj4-0O

Enjoy!

Kommentar von Sallador

Just a quick note in addition to all the guides here:

If you have a decent hunter in your raid group you can obtain all 3 ores from having the boss at the entrance.

Ores do not need to be collected by one person in the raid, here is how we formed our strategy:

We had the boss at the entrance and a marker in the center of the room for assigned groups to stack when it was their turn.

We split the raid into two groups and rotated them on the marker every 2 Inferno Slices, it was ideal to split the groups evenly between classes that had ways to avoid fall damage as this was probably our biggest problem.

Idea classes for going up were Hunters, Warlocks, Paladins and priests with our raid comp. The damage done by the slam on Normal Difficulty was negligible and not something a shield etc couldn't handle.

As for the closest ore to the boss, you do require a hunter to disengage in that direction and it can be quite difficult, we found going into first person view before you got knocked up to be ideal as the camera tends to go a little mental as you reach the roof.

Good luck :-)

Kommentar von 1460618

This is how we did " The iron Price" achievement

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izTCezPlX2w

Kommentar von Gulnash

The people who click the ore do NOT need to be alive when the boss dies for the achievement to pop.

Kommentar von bigfoot1291

Solo'd as a prot warrior after a bit of practice, I recommend setting up world markers under the ores so you have a good idea on where to stand.
http://i.imgur.com/EsNTFM3.jpg This is where I placed them and successfully obtained all 3.

Kommentar von Jessu

Very soloable as a vengeance demon hunter. It helps significantly when he's casting Destructive Rampage, cause if you maintain a glide over the Overhead Smash area, it'll just knock you back up into the air which won't knock you out of your glide, and you can easily reach for the nodes on the ceiling. :)

Kommentar von Bazingatron

Took me a few wipes, but after i got my markers down, I one shot the achievement
https://imgur.com/a/GdpkSSV
Here is what you want to do
1st node - Position the boss on X, then face him towards Skull and when he starts casting Überkopfschlag run to skull get launched and click on 1st node
2nd node - (gotta be a bit faster here) Get boss to Purple, Position him towards Moon/Silver, and jump from there to get 2nd node
3rd node - Get him to Circle/Orange and jump from Square/Blue
I don't even remember why I put green down

Kommentar von Darkamphi

So, i have tried to do this on my Rogue on Mythic, but everytime he casted Overhead Smash, he went back in to the middle of the room and the knockback where i should have stood (and i was standing there) was tiny.
I don't know if it's because of the difficulty or it was patched, but i tried it several times.

Kommentar von Volleynova

Moderately Difficult Solo Achievement for Level 60 Shadowlands and Beyond...

1) Normal Difficulty. This took me a few tries. The toughest part of this fight is angling yourself so you get a good clean jump towards each Pristine Ore.

2) You will see the Pristine Iron Ores at the top of the ceiling, there are three of them you must acquire during the fight.

3) Begin fight, place Gruul at the entrance

4) Spin him around so he is facing towards the Pristine Iron Ores.

5) Stand close to him, putting yourself in between Gruul and the Ore, but don't move closer to the ore until he begins his Overhead Smash. And don't move closer to the ores so that Gruul starts moving towards the middle. All you want to do is just stand between Gruul and the center of the room.

6) Once Gruul begins Overhead Smash move closer to the ore/center, and you'll notice Gruul stays in the same position during his cast. The further you are away from Gruul, the higher you will jump into the air.

7) This will take practice to find the right spot to take off from, but try it a few times and you will get it.

8) While flying through the air, and high enough, grab a Pristine Ore. Spam that right mouse button as you get in range. Rinse and repeat 2 more times for the others. After heading back to the ground, simply run to the edge of the room again, and spin Gruul around so he's facing the center. Wait for the next Overhead Smash.

9) If at all possible, use your classes ability to take lesser or no fall damage (Hunters disengage, Mages Blink/Slowfall, etc)

10) If Gruul starts devastating rampage, just stay out of the overhead smash zone and keep running around until that phase is over, then it's back to normal.

11) Once all 3 Pristine Iron Ores are acquired, nuke Gruul.

12) ?

13) Profit. Achievement Completed.

Kommentar von SleepyCloud

I just soloed this on my rogue (on heroic). It was pretty easy, as you take less fall damage as a rogue, I used a Crimson Vial to heal but it wasn't really necessary.

My biggest problem was finding the right position in the ground, as you can't put markers on the ground anymore (at least for me, the raid control didn't show up).

But after a few trys I found a way that worked right away:

I moved him to the door and made him face the center of the room. Once he started to cast overhead smash, I moved the camera all the way up and started running towards the first ore (don't Sprint or you risk not ending up in the right spot). By the time he finished the cast, I was in the right position do get the ore. Then again moved him to the door (a bit closer to center this time) and repeated the process to get the second and third ore. If you can bring someone to get raid marks, this should get a lot easier!

Kommentar von Jorvalt

Either this isn't possible on mythic or they changed how the mechanics work overall. When Gruul starts his destructive rampage, he goes back to the middle and stays there.

Kommentar von Netspook

Unless you have some kind of slow fall, or can heal yourself, this will be extremely hard to solo, since you won't survive 3 high falls otherwise. On normal, using my warlock, drain life would have killed him too quickly - might work on HC/mythic when he has more health, though.

My biggest problem with this achivement, though, is the positioning. By trying the tips in posts above, I still haven't been able to get more than one ore since I either do not get knocked up high enough, or not getting close enough to the ore to click them.

Kommentar von TheShadowX

do it on normal mode youll get into enrage

dont use the slams he does in his rage phase (since he moves into the middle)

hell do a slam outside his rage phase (if youre lucky), for that you have to position him correctly
you can use the entrance for all 3 ores

make sure he faces the direction of the ore and then turn your character around otherwise youll get dazed

when he casts the slam it seems to be good to run to the spot thats a bit before the ore, since youll be moving a bit forward while in the air

^&*! this achievement

Kommentar von vallyss

Not sure if they changed something or I'm doing something wrong. I position Gruul on gate as suggested, then wait for overhead smash, which doesn't come until destructive rampage at which point he moves to center of room and knocks me into gate.

Kommentar von Brotinn

Just solo'd this on my ilvl 435 Arms Warrior on Heroic difficulty. It was a challenge, but not impossible.

As others mention, at the start of the fight, position Gruul by the entrance and face him toward the middle. I just had to stand there since every hit did negligible damage. Once Overheard Smash was being cast, I looked straight up, ran toward the middle, and positioned myself under an ore. Once you're launched, spam-click on the ore and you should get it (there was no indication that I saw, just that the ore disappeared after). This part was the most challenging thing because if you are not positioned correctly, you could be out of range to click on the ore.

To mitigate fall damage, I used Heroic Leap to get back down undamaged (can be difficult to pull off since you have to do it very quickly) and if I couldn't pull that off in time, I used Concentrated Flame (rank 4) on myself to quickly heal.

When Gruul goes into the middle, he'll cast Overhead Smash 6 times. Don't be tempted to try to get the ore at this time because he'll be too close to give you the height you need to reach the ore. Just stand back over by the entrance and dodge the attacks (you'll see a dusty looking cone showing the direction of the attack, it's easy to avoid). Once he's done rampaging, he'll wander back over to you. Repeat what you did earlier two more times. It takes time, but it's doable. Once you have all the ore, nuke Gruul.

Kommentar von Foulblade

As demon hunter this is quite easy, you can use your fel rush, vengeful retreat and your wings to maneuver in air, so you can get to ore even from opposite side of the room.

Kommentar von Verb84

If you're trying to solo this on Mythic and wondering why Gruul doesn't do the usual Overhead Smash, well, you're not the only one! Just switch to Heroic and you should be OK.

Kommentar von Brythandir

When performing this you won't have to worry about time, I took so long that Gruul became enraged (500% increased damage) and his stacking debuff (which increases his damage dealt to you by 10% each) maxed out at 99 stacks, so 990% increased damage! But after all of that he still wasn't doing much damage to me. ilvl 443 plate wearer

Kommentar von AceRon

Just did this on Mythic solo as Druid (Shadowlands prepatch). He never seemed to cast overhead smash during p1 so ended up with a different strategy. This should work for most classes with mobility in-air abilities. Might take a couple tries to get used to the movement but once you get the hang of it, it works like a charm.

Went balance spec with feral charge talent for "disengage" in moonkin form. Also had the "Flap" ability as slow fall. Recommend using resto affinity for passive heal.

The trick was to wait for his rampage where he spams overhead smash and position yourself about halfway between the wall and the ore you're targeting. (See raid markers: https://imgur.com/s0Py7CE ) After first cast you'll be blasted into the air. Then disengage towards the ore right as he's finishing the cast of his next overhead smash to knock you further up into the air and into the ores. Then spam flap (or whatever slow fall you have) to avoid fall damage and glide around.

Rinse and repeat for the other ores. Good luck!

Kommentar von gaar

Just solo'd this as a druid (can be done with any class, to be honest).

1. Locate one of the nodes
2. Position the boss as far away from the node as possible
3. Make Gruul face the node while you boh still stand far away from the node
4. Wait for overhead smash and run under the node (the further you are away from Gruul, the higher you go)
5. Once he smashes you in the air you click the node
6. Repeat 2 more times

Missed this part of the information since all comments here require a special class, pet, or ability. This can be done by all classes with no special items or abilities.

Kommentar von HonestPeon

I tried using Das Necro-mjam-nicon, getting the buff Das Necro-mjam-nicon but unfortunately i was just short of reaching the deposits :(

Kommentar von schnizol

You can do it without a pet - tank him at the edge of the room, away from the middle, after inferno slice, face him towards middle - when he starts casting Overhead smash, move under the node, and jump up when it hits, easy.

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Kommentar von Littlemonk353

Just did this as a DK in shadowlands, pulled the boss, and used Stylish Black Parasol toy to help float me down easier and took no fall damage as a result, the parasol lasts 15 minutes so plenty of time to take it slow and get it right, bounce up and grab the ores then down the boss! good luck!

Kommentar von banditkeith

only had him cast overhead smash once in a 10 minute fight so no idea if thats a bug or if im somehow doing something wrong

Kommentar von bugbug312

Just wanted to confirm that the previous strategies still work in 10.1.5. Also, while you don't need a Stylish Black Parasol, it sure does make it easier as it gives you more time to click the ore and prevents fall damage. The 15 minutes is more than enough time to grab all three.

One more thing to note - this may be bugged on higher difficulties? I tried it on mythic at first and he wouldn't cast Overhead Smash until he went on a rampage. It was fairly easy to complete on normal, however; boss acted as expected there.

Kommentar von Volkai

Patch: 10.2.5
Expansion: Dragonflight
Class: Any (Arcane Mage during my achievement)
Solo: Yes

Strategy:

1. Look up at the center of the room, you have to grab those 3 ores.
2. Do this on Normal. On Mythic he wasn't casting the Overhead Smash until he went to the center of the room.

Why is doing it on Normal important?
The further away you are from the Overhead Smash (this large frontal lane fissure animation on the ground), the higher you are knocked up. He casts it 'towards' your last known location.

On Mythic he wasn't casting this for me until he went to the center of the room, preventing you from being further away from the boss, to allow the knock up to reach the height of the ore in the center.

3. Position the boss honestly anywhere on the outer edges of the room. But in a manner where you're facing the ore you want to reach. Example here. Gruul is behind me in this photo, with his back against one of the walls.

4. Wait for him to cast Overhead Smash. This will create a frontal earthquake/fissure looking animation in your general direction.

5. Immediately run to be under the ore. While standing on the earthquake/fissure animation for Overhead Smash.

6. Wait to get knocked up. Click the ore.

7. Repeat until you get the second and third.

Notes to remember:

- The further away you are from the boss, the higher the knock up.
- I repositioned the boss for each ore at different junctions of the room, to make the direct line to the ore easier and not that great of a distance (e.g. like some suggestions here of always keeping it at the entrance).
- Try to prevent or heal the fall damage you take, if you don't have any means of preventing fall damage (potion, etc).

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