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Kommentar von aeryion

Da die deutsche Abteilung hier ein wenig unterbesetzt ist, habe ich hilfreiche englische Kommentare übersetzt, damit man wenigstens eine Ahnung über diesen Erfolg bekommt.

Dieser Erfolg erfordert euch 20 Gegner von dem fahrenden Zug zu schmeißen, während ihr gegen Nitrogg Donnerturm kämpft. Wichtig: Ihr müsst Klassen dabei haben, welche die Möglichkeit besitzen Gegner zurückzustoßen. Hier eignen sich z.B.: Schamane mit Gewitter, Druide mit Taifun oder Jäger mit Sprengfalle wenn dieser die Glyphe (Ausgebrannte Glyphe) benutzt.

Desweiteren müsst ihr euch entscheiden, auf welcher Seite des Zuges ihr die Gegner runterwerfen wollt, denn auf der anderen Seite sollten sich die Spieler befinden, welche das Ziel von Sperrfeuer sind.

Hier die Taktik:

Der Boss wird ganz normal gepullt und bis auf 60% runtergehauen.
Dort angekommen springt er in seine Sturmkanone und fängt an Sperrfeuer auf einen zufälligen Spieler zu wirken. Spieler, die davon anvisiert sind, sollten sich von der Gruppe entfernen und hinter eine Kiste stellen um keinen Schaden zu erleiden.
Vier verschiedene Arten von Gegnern werden nun sich dem Kampf anschließen: Eiserner Infanterist, Schützin der Grom'kar, Kanonenschütze der Grom'kar und Grenadier der Grom'kar. Diese Gegner nicht töten.
Versucht nun, etwa 3-6 Gegner zusammen zubekommen. Euer Tank sollte die Gegner so nah am Rand des Zuges wie möglich tanken. Bedenkt: Der Wind des fahrenden Zuges drückt euch zurück. Versucht also in der Mitte des Zuges zu bleiben, wenn möglich und lasst euch nicht selbst vom Zug runterschmeißen.
Nun sollten Eure Spieler ihre Fähigkeiten verwenden, welche die Gegner vom Zug schmeißen. Andere Fähigkeiten, wie z.B. Schockwelle vom Krieger oder Frostfalle vom Jäger, welche die Gegner in Position halten, sind vom Vorteil und sollten möglichst vor dem runterschmeißen benutzt werden.
Diese Punkte werden solange wiederholt, bis ihr mindestens 20 Gegner vom Zug geworfen habt.

Kommentar von YumiChan2

Soo nun habe ich es auch endlich mal geschafft. Ich habe den Erfolg gemacht mit meinem Treffsicherheitsjäger und dem Skill Stoßfeuer. Waffe habe ich vorsichtshalber ausgezogen, da mein Problem glaube ich hauptsächlich war, dass die Gegner bei Stoßfeuer gestorben sind statt zu "Fallen und vom Zugwind mitgezogen zu werden". Ich habe mir ein Makro gemacht /tar Grenadier /cast Arkaner Schuss. Da diese mich immer zurück geworfen haben und ich dadurch anfangs regelmäßig vom Zug fiel. Danach war es zwar zeitaufwändig, aber relativ leicht. Ich habe mich an der hinteren rechten Ecke des Zuges positioniert. Alle Grenadier rausgekillt und mich dann in den Zugwind gestellt. Blickrichtung vom Boss weg und immer mit der Pfeiltaste langsam rückwärts gelaufen, bis die Gegner vor mir an der Ecke standen. Dann Stoßfeuer benutzen und zählen wie viele lebende Gegner vom Zugwind mitgezogen wurden. Dies habe ich gemacht bis ich ca. 30 Gegner lebend runterschubsen konnte. Danach Boss killen. :)

Kommentar von raka01

Als Klasse die fearen kann (z.B. Hexenmeister) auch super einfach.

- Prügelt den Boss in Phase 2 rein (er kann NICHT per Oneshot gekillt werden.also kann hier nicht gefailed werden)
- Stellt euch direkt rechts an die Kisten hin
- Fear alles und jeden bis 20 Adds rechts vom Waggon gefallen sind
- Killt die Kanone
- Killt den Boss

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Kommentar von Mormolyce

A glorious reference to this legendary scene:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHSPf6x1Fdo

Kommentar von 1399196

We just cleared this 15-11-14 - 22:00 Server Time - Server First. Oh yeah :)
You want to knock off the adds on the RIGHT side of the Grimrail. We used a shaman's knockback, it will work just as well with a Boomkin.

Kommentar von Zillions

This achievement is done by knocking 20 adds off the side of the train during the course of the Nitrogg Thundertower encounter.

You do NOT need to knock off all 20 adds at the same time.

You'll need a knockback in your group. Some examples are:
Ele Shaman's Gewitter
Druid Specced into Taifun
Hunter's Ausgebrannte Glyphe and/or Kraftvoller Schuss

Kommentar von ItachiUchiha

You have to throw down the train 20 adds (elite and non elite count). We didn't have a druid or a shaman to throw them out and we tried using me as arcane. Supernova works.

In our first try, we filled the achievement criteria and then we went on to finish the boss. Our tank had it close to the edges and I used supernova on it and I actually threw the boss out and all our attacks evaded, thus failing the try. I suspect this isn't intended, but arcane mages beware since Supernova is a dps tool and not just a knockback spell. Avoid using it on boss until fixed (except if intended?).

Kommentar von Random0532

A difficult achievement that requires you to push off 20 enemies from the train during the Nitrogg Donnerturm encounter. Do note: you need classes that can push enemies backwards, e.g. Schamane's Gewitter, Druide's Taifun or Jäger's Sprengfalle with Ausgebrannte Glyphe. You'll have to choose on what side on the train you want to push down your enemies, because the other side should be dedicated for Sperrfeuer targets. Here's how to do it:

A few things to take into account:

If a section is targeted by Schlackeschlag, move away as fast as possible to prevent excess damage intake.
Try to use self-healing and/or defensive spells and abilities (e.g. Schurke's or Todesritter's Eisige Gegenwehr) whenever possible.
The Grenadier der Grom'kar's Schwarzfelsgranate will push you back if you stand in it!
Act quickly and communicate to make the achievement easier.

Kommentar von Chanar

Definitely solo-able as of 6.2. Did it on my Guardian Druid. I was also able to solo the other Ach in here as well (although my first try I forgot the last box and had to do it the next day >.>). Completed it at around 700 ilvl. Nothing special gear wise, I had mostly pvp stuff on. I'd imagine if I was even remotely geared this would have been a walk in the park. As it was, this is actually fairly difficult to solo. I'm not quite sure how long, but after at least 5 minutes the adds begin to spawn very frequently. At this point you need to pretty much kite them while spamming Thrash to heal yourself. It got dicey at a couple of points. I did one shot it however, which is why it was so messy. I probably knocked off at least 30 but I wasn't really keeping track.
Here's how I did it:
I took Feline Swiftness(for extra ms)/Cenarion Ward/Typhoon to knock them off/Soul of the Forest/Incapacitating Roar/Dream of Cenarius/Guardian of Elune(not enough time to stack up lacerates later on, and the extra base dodge is extremely helpful when you have a bunch of adds whacking at you.
You will have plenty of adds so there is no need to "save" them up. In between Typhoon you need to just kite them around and heal up as much as you can. Grab the Grenades and use them whenever you can, they help out TREMENDOUSLY. It took me 16 minutes to one shot it. I definitely could have done it in like at least 7 or 8 but I didn't make a clickactionbutton macro and there was a couple of times where my cursor bugged out and wouldn't let me click the ground to use Grenades, or I would mistime getting in the cannons and be unable to get off a mortar at the boss. Plus the Ach Tracker didn't actually show me when I had knocked off 20, which sucked. I wouldn't use Berserk at all until the adds really start spawning a ton, after that use it whenever you get really low and have nothing else so you can heal back up. Use Survival instincts whenever you feel threatened and Barkskin pretty much on CD. I'd say if you have a few HFC trinks or just decent gear in general this shouldn't be too hard. Was fun to do.

Kommentar von PeteM177

I tried to 2 man this a few different ways, but in the end, we found a very easy strat with my monk (brewmaster) and the other guy being resto druid (although any blowback class works).

What we did was, I put my monk statue right by the edge and replaced it every time it got low health. The druid and I just hung back behind a pillar, trying not to get healing aggro, then he'd step over, blow off 5 or so, come back to the pillar and then repeat. We lost count of how many we'd blown off, but when we realized there were no more adds coming, we knew we must have gotten them all, so we killed the boss.

If you have a brewmaster and a friend with blowback, this is a low stress method, enjoy!

Kommentar von darkequation

DKs:
After numberless attempt to blow them off with grenade, I figured that if you stand close enough to the front or rear end (the armor plate at very edge) and Blutschattens Griff yourself, you get a fair chance to pull the entire group off the train.
Good luck!

Kommentar von Delaios

Very easy for Marksmanship hunters. You knock enemies off with Bursting Shot. In between the cooldown of it you can heal up, turtle and AoE some enemies (they keep spawning throughout the fight) if they start to become too numerous. If you've run out of cooldowns you can just find a spot where you're not being pushed back by winds and feign death. The fight won't reset.

Kommentar von drewbster

Did this with a 110 Disc priest using the level 45 talent Strahlende Kraft. It's a frontal cone, so the hardest part was lining up the adds so I was facing them and they were close enough to an edge to be knocked off. Had the best luck with the back corners.

Also didn't know how many I'd thrown off, but like someone else mentioned, eventually no more adds spawned so I finished off the boss, and the achievement popped.

Kommentar von OptimusJ

So, I guess that beside the clever use of Blutschattens Griff, there must be an Elemental Shaman for Gewitter, a Marksman Hunter for Stoßfeuer, A Disc/Holy Priest for Strahlende Kraft, an Arcane Mage for Supernova, or a Windwalker Monk for Wirbelnder Drachenschlag, or else there is no achievement.

Kommentar von Duelingk

It does not look like a warlock's succubus (shivarra) knockback will work. I tried about 5 or so attempts on the boss and the enemies hit an invisible wall and landed every single time. I was unable to get a single enemy to fall off the train.

Kommentar von Arkhain

It may be worth it to kill the few Grom'kar Grenadiers that show up just to stop the annoying knockbacks. There's only about two or three of them so you're not going to be missing out on much of the kill-count and it can save a lot of headache and hassle.

Kommentar von falath

It seems Sticky bomb on SV hunter doesn't work for this achievement? I have tried several times and knockback doesn't get adds off the train. Can anyone confirm?

Kommentar von bouture42

Soloed today as a 110 protection paladin (ilvl 880+, probably irrelevant) without a class knockback ability.

Begin the fight as usual by punching the boss in the mouth until he goes to hide in his cannon.

Once in P2, let mobs spawn. Kill Grenadiers on sight - they will knock you off the train with knockbacks from Schwarzfelsgranate and we need those anyway. Loot their grenades once they're down.

From then on, let mobs pile on until you decide its time to go (I went for ~5+ Gunners/Boomers combined, since Iron Infantry die to grenades and as such cannot be used).

Then, let yourself be pushed towards the back of the train on one of the edges of the extended metal "flabs" that fall off after the initial part of the fight. Walk on the very edge, starting from the back, and on towards the front against the wind. I did this to coerce the mobs into getting as close as possible to the edge of the platform, as they would follow me to melee attack. Note that some are casters and will stop walking and cast, so let them catch up.

Once you have a nice compact mob, just land a grenade in order to push them off the train. This is fairly hit-and-miss and it was hard to track how many I got each time, so I approximated with a number lower than what I thought I saw just to be safe.

Do this a fair number of times, finish the boss (you can just wreck the cannon without mortars), and the achievement should be yours. Good luck!

Some notes:
1. This takes a while (10 min+).
2. I had to use healing during the encounter, but nothing serious. Any self-sustain should do.
3. I did not use AoE in P2 when targeting Grenadiers, as we need mobs to survive the grenade hit to get pushed off.
4. Some mobs actually walked off the train by themselves without the use of a grenade if I walked close enough to the edge, but I didn't bother investigating more than I had to since it was riskier and I had a functional solution already.
5. Make sure you take damage during the fight and keep moving - if you stop either the game may take that as an AFK and simply throw you out and reset the encounter. I had that happen once because I stopped moving behind a pillar with Prydaz, Xavarics Magnum Opus shield up and didn't take damage for a bit.

Kommentar von Jonnyne

A Warlock can do this solo. They do have knock back abilities.

1. Get your succubus out.
2. Put her on passive.
3. Gather a group of mobs. KILL Grenadiers, as they will knock you off.
4. Get really close to the edge. Start at the very top. (See wowhead picture)
5. Let yourself get pushed back.
6. Give the mobs time to get into a line.
7. When you're sure they're close enough. Whiplash.
8. Rinse and repeat.

This took me about 5-10 minutes because I was trying to make sure I had enough mobs in total.
It's a pain, but I did.

Kommentar von Tigr

Soloable as a 110 Blood Death Knight (880 ilvl).

The trick is a combination of Gorefiend's Grasp and Blackrock Grenade to blow them off the edge. When I amassed around 10 adds, I backpedaled against the wind and positioned myself on the left rear iron plate (literally on the back edge, it sticks out further than the platform and has 3 iron bolts). Keep backpedaling once positioned or you will be blown off. Target yourself with Gorefiend's Grasp and then use a single Blackrock Grenade at your feet (while still backpedaling) and it will blow the enemies off.

NOTE: The ONLY enemies you want to do this to are Gunners and Boomers. Iron Infantry will simply die to grenade (without being blown) off and Grenadiers will blow you off as you are positioning. As I was collecting targets, I simply used Iron Infantry as Death Strike targets and killed all Grenadiers immediately- it kept the fight manageable for an infinite period of time and made it easier to count my adds.

Once you are confident you have your 20 adds, burn boss. Voila. Good luck!

Kommentar von Dethnal

Did this today on a 110 Vengeance Demon Hunter. Basically, use the Protection Paladin strategy suggested below. Heal off of the Infantry and Grenadiers, and collect grenades from fallen Grenadiers. I used Sigil of Chains basically on cooldown, placing it on the very edge of the train. Immediately after, throw the grenade next to the point where the Gunners and Boomers have been pulled. Repeat as necessary until you're satisfied that 20 have been knocked off and burn down the boss as normal. Make sure (like the Paladin said in the previous comment) to keep moving or you will be booted from the room and the fight will reset.

Kommentar von Aggrax

I'm having trouble gettting the grenades to knock the mobs off. I have them lined up right next to the edge, but they seem to hit some kind of wall and don't ever fly off the train. Am I doing something wrong?

Kommentar von Fruitmeat

I managed to solo this as a WW monk.

Here's how I did it:

Make sure to spec the Summon Black Ox Statue talent.
Damage boss until he goes to phase 2.
Place your Black Ox Statue at one of the corners close to the edge.
Stay close to it so it can aggro all the adds.
Kill Grom'kar Grenadiers and pick up Blackrock Grenade.
When your Black Ox Statue has half health, line yourself close to the edge facing the statue.
Place your new Black Ox Statue between yourself and the old one.
(You do this because if you're standing in the middle the adds will aggro you before they will aggro the new statue. Makes it easier to line them close to the edge.)
Use Blackrock Grenade when the adds gets close to the new Black Ox Statue.
Rinse and repeat until no more adds spawns.

Hope this helps you out. Good luck :)

Kommentar von Boxofbeer

To earn this achievement you have to visit Grimmgleisdepot instance and find there Nitrogg Donnerturm boss. you need to throw out of platform mobs that come during the fight. Stand close to the edge and knockback them off. So, you have to use abilities such like:

Achievement is a part of Ruhm des Draenorhelden.

Keine Fahrkarte — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nyJsPTqd2Q
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Grimmgleisdepot achievements list
War ich das etwa?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8v8v9Ypubu4
Keine Fahrkartehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nyJsPTqd2Q

Kommentar von Taishigi

After trying and failing to knock them off. I went to the back right corner and feared them off one by one until i got 20. When feared they will run off the train all on there own.

Kommentar von Marqu1z

Very easy to do as a monk with Ring of Peace, you can besically thorw them all of at once now.

Kommentar von Miaque

Okay, couple of thoughts for people trying to solo 7.2 onwards...
1. Appropriate legendaries mean you take no damage virtually.
2. It's really hard to tell how many get knocked off, or in fact even if they did... then I realised that if you look back along the track, you can see bodies being left behind. That said, you can usually only differentiate a couple.
3. Don't bother trying to get lots and lots of them, just keep knocking them off as groups in between the Grenadiers showing up.
4. After a while Grenadiers stop showing up.... I believe this is actually when you have knocked enough off to meet the requirement.

See how you go, it takes a bit of time, and good luck.

Kommentar von Wapple1

Completed this on 4/24/17 as a blood DK using the Gorefiend's Grasp strat highlighted above.

I was a little confused by this but make sure your back is facing the wind and back peddle. You will need to be on the very last little piece of the train car for this to work. Once you are there use Gorefiend's Grasp and they should fly off, if you are positioned correctly.

I decided to do all 20 in one go but depending on your gear you might not be able to take all the damage (900 ilvl at the time).

Kill the grenadiers as soon as they spawn and then clump up the rest. Use the infantry to death strike if needed.

Happy Hunting!

(Wapple - Stormrage-US)

Kommentar von NoNick1337

Soloable as any class. I did this as a warrior using grenades. You can use fear to get enemies very close to the edge.

Kommentar von Darkoli1987

As arcane mage with Supernova Talent make sure you try to kick the adds of the side egde (left or right) and not to the back direction. Trying to kick the adds to the back won't work and they'll just get kicked into the air and land back on the same spots. If you kick them to the left or right side instead you'll see that they get kinda "teleported" off the train somehow instead of kicking them right into the air.

Kommentar von Kobzol

One thing to notice is that you MUST NOT kill them with the throwback itself. I threw 30+ under the train with Supernova, but they were dead before they fell, so it didn't count. My supernova was one shotting them, so before I threw them out I de-equipped my artifact weapon and it finally worked.

Kommentar von Tigronn

They can NOT be mind controlled

Kommentar von Tigronn

With some luck, a fear spell will also throw off some of the non-elites

Kommentar von Gizmotech

Having a really hard time with this. ilvl 929 ret pally, when using the grenades I end up killing all the mobs rather than knocking them off. Stripped down to ap wpn only and still same problem.

Kommentar von Lake8888

I got lucky. I was hanging around the back of the platform slowly pushing the enemies off with a Survival Hunter's Sticky Grenades, but due to the damage I had to Feign Death to heal up. At this point all the aggro went over to my pet I parked near the edge. It was promptly pushed off the platform by 2~3 enemy grenades but the pet didn't die and was floating in mid-air off the platform. The entire bunch of enemies jumped right off the train going after it like suicidal lemmings. Killed the boss and got the achievement.

I'm not sure if you could replicate this. I suppose you could try parking your pet as far back as possible and either FD or MD the enemies to it.

Kommentar von Augos

i don't know why but it felt like the right side of the train was easier to push them off than the left side.

Kommentar von Pessimissed

Sigil of Chains works great for Vengeance Demon Hunters. Sadly they won't get pull off if they are disoriented from Sigil of Misery.

Kommentar von Entelligente

This is very easy as a warlock. The Peitschen of your Sukkubus beschwören is the knock off you need. You should spec into Dämonenhaut to stay at full health, even if you stand in the fire or not behind cover for a short time. I would also avoid using Demonology specialization so you do not accidentally kill the adds with Peitschen.

To get the achievement, you should start with Sukkubus beschwören, setting it to passive and then trigger phase two by bringing the boss to 60% health. Since he does not die but only drops to 1 HP, you can damage him as much as you want. As soon as you enter phase 2, you should use the /petmoveto command which is also shown in the spellbook of you pet and move your Succubus to the rear edge of the wagon. As a player pet, it cannot fall off the train. You then just have to kill the Grenadiers and stay near your Succubus, but not at the very edge so that your Succubus can aggro the adds with a Peitschen. The aggroed adds will then gather near your Succubus and can be knocked off pretty easily without risking falling off the train yourself.

With a GS of 914, even the Infantry adds who have the lowest health of all adds survived two Peitschenes.

Kommentar von fords

Just completed this as a disc priest. Fearing the mobs will only send one or two over at a time, so the best tactic is to stand as close to the edge as you can, wait a few minutes (I waited for five to make 100% sure), let the mobs gather up and then cast Strahlende Kraft to send them over the edge.

Kommentar von Hii488

Reminder about the macro used to count number of mobs around you:
/run local count = 0 for i = 0, 10000, 1 do if _G ~= nil and _G:IsVisible() then count = count + 1 end end print(count)

You'll need to enable nameplates (default: v). This may also count one or two higher than there are mobs, depending if your own nameplate is visible and if you can see the cannon's nameplate.

I'd recommend that you wait until you have 30+ before trying to knock them off, and repeating it at least once, even if you feel you knocked off enough the first time just to make sure. They don't hit too hard but over enough time do deal quite a bit of damage, so make sure to use damage mitigation/self healing and if you have any leeching spells use them on Grenadier der Grom'kar to kill two birds with one stone.

(For DK's, use Blutschattens Griff as suggested by darkequation, just make sure you're at the front/back of the train, the edges do not work well)

Kommentar von Blacknny

No, you don't have to push them all 20 oneshot into the air. Just keep your count, do a little more than less if unsure. Grats! :D

Kommentar von Volleynova

Easy for Level 120 Battle for Azeroth and beyond...

1. Heroic Difficulty.

2. Start the fight, damage boss till he jumps to his cannon.

3. Move up to the next tier of boxes. Don't attack boss.

4. Do something else for 5-10 minutes, gathering up 20-30 mobs, keeping an eye on your character making sure he or she doesn't fall off the train or have too low health. You do not need to push 20 mobs over the edge at once, just make sure your total gets to 20 or beyond before attacking the boss again.

5. Once you think you've gathered enough mobs, run along the edge of the left or right side of the traincar, all the mobs should be on you.

6. Use your classes ability to push the mobs off of the traincar.

7. If you think you got 20, then proceed to kill the boss. If you don't think you got 20, then rinse the above and repeat until you think you have pushed 20 over.

8. Kill Boss.

9. ?

10. Profit. Achievement Completed.

Kommentar von Crazywoman

Whiplash ability for warlocks doesnt knockback targets....

Kommentar von Nemo2342

I finally managed to solo this on my Rogue, and it is very annoying. The best advice I can give is to try and kite the enemies along the right-edge of the train car. Eventually they'll all be following along in a loose line, and if you stop running and let the wind slide you back into them you can knock a couple off using 2-3 grenades.

Trying to use the back edges was just too risky; I died several times lining enemies up back there when grenadiers would pop me up into the air.

Really though, if you can bring a friend with knockback, do so and save yourself the headache.

Kommentar von ToviValdora

Solo'd this at 120, 306 ilevel as a MM Hunter using Stoßfeuer. The regular mobs die pretty quick so you need to do several rounds of knocking the elites off the train. Bursting Shot has a 30 second cooldown so do maybe 10-15 shots to be extra sure. I also used a blank action bar with only Bursting Shot and Exhilaration on it.

Kommentar von popje

Easy at 120 without any knockback abilities (just did it as ret)

1. remove most of your gear especially your weapon
2. punch boss to start fight and bring him to ~50%, phase 2 will start and he will go in his cannon
3. go forward in the middle of the boss room around the boxes where the wind doesn't affect you
4. mobs will spawn, kill the grenadier loot him and you will get 3 bombs to use (big button special ability)
5. go to the very edge of the train until the mobs are close to the edge as well, backpedal a bit to line em up (don't fall)
6. use your 3 bombs one after the other as fast as you can trying to knock off as many mobs as possible
7. keep killing grenadiers and repeating step 6 until you are confident you got 20 mobs total
8. nuke boss

also, you can jump off and die if anything go wrong.

TL;DR: start fight, kill and loot bombs from grenadiers, knockback 20 enemies in total (not necessarily at once) out of the train then nuke boss.

Kommentar von Anarchy

This doesn't work in Mythic.

How to know if you've knocked 20 off - the mobs stop spawning.

To make this easier, kill the grenadiers and keep everything else alive, the grenadiers do a little knockback making it much harder to line up the mobs and knock them off.

Kommentar von FranFlorence

Extremely easy to solo as a 120 warlock.

1. Dismiss your pets.
2. Engage the boss and dps him to phase 2.
3. Find a spot where you won’t get blown away, but as close to the back of the train and to the right edge of the platform as possible.
4. Fear the adds as they spawn. Repeat 20+ times.
5. Kill the boss.

Edit to clarify: some people say that the fear method doesn’t work. Well, maybe I got lucky, but that’s exactly the way I’ve got the achievement myself. The trick is to get feared adds to wander into the air stream - which is no big deal if you position yourself really close to the edges. I’ve done it on the right side, never checked the left, so maybe it works differently there.

Kommentar von warcraftStutt

If you're doing the grenade approach, you probably want to make some macros that are like this:

/click ExtraActionButton1
so that you can use a hotkey instead of the mouse to use the grenade ability.

/target grom'kar grenadier
To avoid having to search for the grenadiers once they spawn, and to make sure there's no grenadiers on the cart that can bump you off when running along the edge

/run local count = 0 for i = 0, 10000, 1 do if _G ~= nil and _G:IsVisible() then count = count + 1 end end print(count)

To quickly count the amount of enemies around yourself.before and after pushing enemies off, so you can do a rough count of how many you bumped off the wagon

And a last tip, make sure you target yourself so you can more accurately see your character position when setting up along the edge. Good luck!

Kommentar von mon1800

possibly bugged as of 01/06/2019

Mistweaver monks works really well for knocking them off. I used the macro to track numbers and i did two groups of 40 mobs. Ring of peace was great, but i still didnt get the achievement for some reason. Dont expect too much as i am finding many dungeons have bugs in WoD.

Kommentar von Dhiann

For those having no pushback abilities, kill the grenadiers and use their grenades.

What the other comments don't tell or didn't figure out is: The center of your grenade target zone will push them minimal, while the outer parts of the impact zone will push them further away. Don't throw the grenade next to your mobs and you'll have it ez.

Kommentar von Elfizm

I used my boomy for the Typhoon knockback but was getting frustrated because lining them up in front of you is rough when you're constantly on the move with the wind rush and they're bouncing you up in the air too. I spent a fair bit of time trying to get the right angle so they were bunched in front of me with their backs to the edge, but this is where I went wrong.

Just run along the edge of the platform facing the front of the train and they will cluster in front of you. Your knockback, for some reason, will bounce them sideways over the edge. Running headlong into the wind is also a lot easier than strafing and trying not to fall off.

Kommentar von Alterraia

Most dangerous, but effective way of doing this is to knock them off towards the rear of the train. So you have to be careful and have your camera angle pointed straight down. I recommend turning off enemy health bars for this.

When then start shooting the fire w/ smoke, that's not a good time to try and blow them up. Wait until you can see the ledge.

Note that the little flap piece of metal hanging off of the rectangular platform is ALSO ground you can walk on.

I had about 20 on me before I got my first Grenadier and when I bombed them, I had 12 left on me.

It was hard to count w/ all of the fire and everything on, but by the time I finished, I killed over 40.

If you take too long doing this, off of the side, you will risk losing more Grenadiers spawning. I had to suicide twice because of this.

Super fun achievement when you see it happen.

Also, I noticed that some of them, when I'm on that back ledge, just fall off because you see their health bar drop to zero as they go.

Kommentar von rzzr

Did on DK tank using Sigil of Chains. They not going to hurt you at 120 so get loads on you then place sigil in the wind, actually off the train and it will suck them out into the wind. Did 3 times to make sure and in between tried to use grenades.

Kommentar von verem

BM HUNTERS (...or any class that a pet can/statue can grab aggro)

Absolutely NO grenades required. Have your pet move to a spike at the edge of the train and draw aggro. The NPCs will run right off the back of the train.

I used Spirit Mend and it worked like a charm.

Kommentar von Arkamedix

Very easy to solo with a elemental shaman by using Thunderstorm. But, before starting the fight, remove your gear. You can keep one azerite piece with ghost wolf passive, for healing. If you don't remove the gear, you will one-shot the mobs with Thunderstorm and it will not count. It takes a bit of time (due to high cd of Thunderstorm), but for safety, i suggest to get at least 4-5 packs, Thunderstorm them (because not all will be booted out from the train) and after kill the boss.

Kommentar von lankey

I spent several minutes attempting this on the left side of the train using my monks ring of peace but they always seemed to hit an invisible wall. I moved to the right side of the train and was easily able to knock them off that side.

Kommentar von Ironplague

For Death Knights this is a rather annoying achievement to get. Switch to blood because Blutschattens Griff is needed. Engage the boss and hit him until he jumps away, he will not die regardless of damage, remaining at 1 hp. Hide behind boxes and gather up mobs until 20+. Kill Grenadiers because they drop the grenades needed to knockback and because they also knockback and can kick you off the train. Grab the grenades off the Grenadiers. Once all mobs are gathered move into the wind on the edge of the platform, Unaufhaltsamer Tod is really helpful in keeping your character still and on the train. Target yourself, cast Blutschattens Griff and then use the grenades by targeting between you and the adds to kick them off the train. Lastly, kill the boss -> Win!

Kommentar von interceptor152

This is easy as monk, Talent into Ring des Friedens and wait until you have a good amount of mobs. Take them right to the edge and ring of peace. It took me around 3 casts to get the positioning right but it's only a 45 second cooldown so just keep trying! I found it to work best when I cast ring of peace half on, half hanging off the train to properly kick the mobs off.

I found this so much easier than trying to use the grenades and I hope it helps you!

Kommentar von Bulutooth

8.3

If you are a paladin using Konflikt und Zwietracht in your major works fine. just grab enough adds go near edge and knock them back with Göttliches Ross.

I suggest removing all items but the Herz von Azeroth (for strife) so that adds do not accidentally die.

Kommentar von randyclive

Hello. Just did this as of Patch 8.3

I did it as a warrior using the grenade method. One thing to keep in mind for other warriors out there trying out this method is don't forget to use "Intimidating Shout". Its a "fear" and it can sometimes knock some mobs off the train.

Also something I've noticed. I couldn't keep track of how many mobs I have knocked off the train so a good tell is that they actually stop spawning once you've knocked enough mobs for the achievement.

Once they stop respawning just go ahead and nuke the boss, you will get the achievement 100%.

Also the achievement can only be done in "Heroic" and no other modes.

Kommentar von jodle

Elemental shaman/any druidform @lvl50 (after level squish):

Go naked or wear just 1 piece of azerite armor with passive self-healing (just in case).
Nuke the grenadiers once they spawn. Eventually use a macro for targeting them. Leave their grenades if you like.
Run along the edges and use Thunderstorm/Typhoon when off CD.
Do this until youre sure you have pushed 20 mobs over the edge.
Nuke boss.

It's surprisingly easy if you kill the grenadiers once they spawn. Really.

If you use this macro

/run local count = 0 for i = 0, 10000, 1 do if _G ~= nil and _G:IsVisible() then count = count + 1 end end print(count)

before and after you have knocked back the mobs you get an idea how many you need to push over the edge. Be aware that the shaman's thunderstorm actually can kill a few mobs now and then. So do a little extra before you go for the boss.

Kommentar von PinkayVT

Just completed this achievement 2 minutes ago. It is definitely still bugged, I used a Brewmaster Monk with Ring of Peace on top of spamming grenades. I noticed that occasionally one or two mobs would fall off and die with my Ring of Peace/grenades. So it is still actually doable, it just took a long time. I wasn't tracking the kills in any way, just kinda did it until I got bored then killed the boss and hoped I got it. The adds did not stop spawning at any point like someone elses comment said.

Kommentar von Hiddukel

Alternative method which we accidentally found worked for us involved a warrior who aggroed a whole bunch, dropped Challenging Shout and jumped off the train. The taunted mobs all somehow followed him on this little suicide pact, I killed the boss, we both got credit. Far easier than worrying about knocking them off with grenades! :)

Kommentar von Dervacus

Solo Guide for Over-Powered or Level Cap Characters of Any Class & Specialization:

This achievement can be attained as is without any special items, class skill or racial skills

Assign a key binding for Extra Action Button 1

Game Menu > Key Bindings > Action Bar > Extra Action Button 1 (I have mine set to F5)

You do not need to take off gear for this

Probably easier if you don't

Hit the boss at the initial start

You do not need to worry about one-shotting him because it is not possible

The train will open up

Find a spot avoiding the wind and let the adds spawn

Use the Tab key to cycle through the adds and single attack a Grom'kar Grenadier

Kill a grenadier and click on the corpse for grenade

You can click through the adds, so you probably won't have to move

The grenade has 3 charges

Run up and down the very edge of the train without falling off while getting the adds as close to the edge as possible

Some say North side, some say South side, but it doesn't matter

Once the adds line up use your Extra Action Button 1 key binding to throw the grenades

Aim for just behind the adds so it pushes them towards the edge

Quickly use all 3 charges of the grenade to knock them off

You do not have to knock off all 20 at once, take your time if needed!

Keep using Tab to cycle through the adds to find the next Grom'kar Grenadier

If you do not see any go ahead and clear the adds making sure you do not hit the boss

Repeat a few times

It is hard to tell if and how many fall off but there is an easy way to tell when you hit 20 because the Grom'kar Grenadiers will stop spawning

Once you are sure the grenadiers stop spawning, go ahead and finish off the boss

Congratulations on getting the achievement!

Kommentar von xLunacyx

Ring of Peace for monk in shadowlands doesn't work very well. It has very little knockback so you have to be dangerously close to the edge where they can knock you off instead. Even with 40 of them the ring may deplete instantly and only knock 2 off.

Kommentar von xLunacyx

Knockbacks are very short and weak in Shadowlands. Kill the mobs that knock you up (I left mostly just Iron Infantry and Grom'kar Gunner up) since you have to get very close to the death zone and if there's too many you'll get chain-knocked off the edge. Monk's ring of peace was too unreliable, but did it with Druid's Typhoon.
I wasn't able to knock them off the sides, I had to go near the back end and push them off near the corner.

Kommentar von Sefir0th

For everyone still trying to solo this achievement and have no luck with the grenadiers/knock back skill class, there is a way to do it without any of them.

What I do was to gather a lot of mobs (kill the grenadiers, to make sure they don't throw you out of the train).

When you have like 30-40 of them on you, go to the upper left part of the train, where the wind pull you. There you are going to see a small plate that goes out of the platform of the train, step on it, and keep going forward, so you maintain yourself on the plate, but not too much to fall going forward.

The mobs are going to push themselves trying to hit you, and fall in front of you.

This method took me like 2-3 minutes and got the achievement.

Hope it helps!

Kommentar von Onyxx666

As a Vengeance DH you can inch towards the edge on the top right or left of the train and Sigil of Chains the adds off the train. Just make sure the Sigil circle edge is just touching the train and YEET.

Kommentar von AoifeNiav

Shaman's skill Gewitter works. It kills the mobs instantly, but pushes them off the train at the same time. I used it 4 times to make sure it worked with enough mobs.

Kommentar von Lysan

I did it on my Shaman lvl 60 a couple days ago.

I first tried the bomb method explained in other comments but could not work my way around it.

Instead, I left the dungeon, died and res at graveyard to get the -75% debuff.

I engaged the boss with debuff and no gear on. My thunderstorm did not OS the enemies so I was able to push them out of the train as intended by the achievement after lining them to the side of the coach.

It took me no more than 5 mins with death debuff in total, so very easy to do.

Kommentar von Ghrr

How I did it solo it in Shadowlands without having to walk on the edge. Works with any class, but you don't need my method if your class can knock back.

As a warrior I had to get creative, since none of the methods above worked for me/were too hard to implement.

I stumbled upon a secret edge on the right-bottom (when standing facing the boss) end of the platform, allowing you to stack infantry and let them fall on their own/help a little with the grenades.

Now the algorithm:

(Kinda optional, but works better this way) Stack a lot of infantry adds, killing off all other elites as they don't stack as good, keep an eye for grenade ones. Macroses from this thread helped a lot btw
Pick up loot from all the elites, it's going to help you locate grenadier bodies later. Once you used up the grenades, the bodies gonna start glowing
Locate the secret edge, start by running into a wall and then carefully letting the wind slide you down to the edge
Let the adds surround you, help them fall with grenades. Also bind the grenades skill. If the adds won't surround you and won't start falling off - rotate facing the cannon
Watch the show, keep being careful when you kill a new grenadier and have to loot him and run back to the edge
If you didn't do the 1. and grenadier won't spawn, kill of some adds, there seems to be a limit of 40 or something
Once you pushed off enough mobs they will stop spawning

As how to locate the secret edge have a look at the screenshot: ibb.co/QdvGmMw

Good luck!

Kommentar von MyPetsAreEpic

If you are Kyrian, soulbind Forgelite Prime Mikanikos can give you Geladener Zusatz. Can only be used once during combat, so gather enough adds.

Kommentar von Adam552

If you are finding it really difficult to knock off using grenades or Sigil of Chains.

Knock them off the RIGHT SIDE of the train, instead of the left.

Kommentar von Azeriia

I've been trying to do this Achievement on my lvl60 mage today with the grenades as the pushback.
Problem is, the grenades 1shots the mobs.. I cant push them off, because the mobs die as i use the grenade.
I tried to do it ungeared. With resurrection sickness and resurrection sickness without gear. The grenade still does about 2k damage to mobs that has around 1200health.
Any tips ?

Kommentar von cloneking3165

As a hunter simply place your pet on the spike/horn just off the rear of the train. Leave pet there on neutral. Then proceed to kill boomers so they don't knock you off. Gather a crowd. Tap Feign Death quickly just to switch agro (character doesnt even need to go to ground and not long enough to end the fight). Most mobs will try to go for pet and get sucked off. Once Elites stop spawning you're done.

Kommentar von Zauberwald

Found the easiest way ever...
Grenades Killed them so i just tried and tried and found this...
EVERY Class and Spec can do this without any spells, bombs etc needed. JUST WALKING!

https://ibb.co/vZZ3qxt

Just walk up the Line, let you wind down and repeat untill nothing spawns.
At the beginning it might looks like nothing falls down, but turn on nameplates and look at them,
you will see some fly away to the bottom after a few walks.

I didnt kill any mob except the boss... :)
just let everything fall down and have a 100% save achievement.
It can take time but they will fall down!
It took me 10 Minutes because i would make sure it works with the Pathing.
Have fun with your Achievement

Kommentar von k4ne

Just did this thanks to @Zauberwald method.
Either you can wait like 5-10min to be sure you got 20 or just activate nameplates and turn your cam angle like shown below so it is easy to count how many got kicked.

https://i.imgur.com/NLnF5p4.png

Kommentar von blackvortex

Echoing @FranFlorence, Dragonflight, did this as a warlock. Parked myself in the back right side of the train where I couldn't get knocked off and kept fearing adds. Occasionally you will see their health bar zero out indicating they got knocked off the train. Just one-shot all other non Infantry adds . Once you have enough the adds will stop coming so you are free to hit the cannon and kill the boss.

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