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Siegel des verheerten Schicksals is the new bonus roll currency being introduced in Legion. It will be usable in all Mythic dungeons, in the new Tier 19 raids Die Nachtfestung and Der Smaragdgrüne Alptraum, and for the new world bosses (Ana-Mouz, Calamir, Drugon der Frostblütige, Treibgut, Humongris, Levantus, Na'zak das Scheusal, Nithogg, Shar'thos, The Soultakers, and Verdorrter J'im).

As with recent currencies, only 3 per week will be obtainable (with potentially rare exceptions - see below re: Order Hall Missions and Timewalking events), and the hard cap will be 6 seals.

The currency can be obtained from quests that require a certain amount of gold or Ordensressourcen (similar to the Warlords of Draenor model). These quests are available from Erzmagier Lan'dalock outside of the Violet Hold at in Dalaran (Legion version). Your second and third seals purchased with the SAME currency increases progressively in price - this is noted in the chart below.

Gold
Seal #	Quest	Cost

1st	Schicksal besiegeln: Gold
2nd	Schicksal besiegeln: Haufen von Goldmünzen
3rd	Schicksal besiegeln: Immenses Vermögen in Gold

Ordensressourcen
Seal #	Quest	Cost

1st	Schicksal besiegeln: Ordensressourcen	1000 Ordensressourcen
2nd	Schicksal besiegeln: Gehamsterte Ordensressourcen	2000 Ordensressourcen
3rd	Schicksal besiegeln: Überschüssige Ordensressourcen	4000 Ordensressourcen

Some of this information may not be final, and is subject to change

As in Warlords of Draenor, you can mix and match which currency you use for seals (some with gold, others with resources) to a maximum of 3 seals total.
If you only buy 1 or 2 seals with a specific currency, the quests will reset the following week, allowing you to spend the lowest amount again (you only pay more for the second and third seals you buy within the week).

NOTE: In Legion, it will be possible to trade Personal loot items if you already have a better item in that slot. You CANNOT do so with bonus rolled loot.

This is one of the extra roll currencies that were first introduced in Mists of Pandaria. It allows you to roll (at a cost of 1 currency per roll) for an extra chance at loot on certain world, raid or dungeon bosses.

This extra loot is granted directly to the person rolling and is not part of the group/party's loot for that boss. The majority of the time the roll does not yield loot - when this is the case, gold is granted instead. Certain currencies also can grant pets or mounts as part of the bonus loot - this will vary depending on boss (a list of mounts and pets you can bonus roll for is listed later in this comment).

There is protection for bad luck on bonus rolls. As per a blue post:

Whenever you use a bonus roll and you don’t get any loot, your chance of getting loot on the next roll will increase. This increased probability won’t be reset until some loot is awarded, and this is independent of the boss that is being killed.
The bad luck streak protection will carry over and continue to increase the probability from boss to boss and instance to instance and won't reset until you get some loot.

For all currencies, World Bosses will only allow a single roll a week. This can be on any kill - if you kill a boss more than once and pass on rolling the first time, you will still have the option of doing so on a subsequent kill that week.
For most currencies you can kill bosses in a single or multiple lockouts/difficulties (kill a boss on both Heroic and Normal, or a Heroic boss twice) to also get a bonus roll chance EACH time. For example, you can kill Gruul on Heroic difficulty twice, and while you will be able to get loot directly from the boss only once, you can bonus roll both times for extra chances at loot.
The above is NOT true for Mythic raids however - those lockouts prevent you from doing multiple bosses in one week.

The currencies listed can be found on the currency tab in your character screen. Below is a table summarizing the currency types, including sources for each.
NOTE: NPC locations can be seen on a by mousing over the zone name in the "Source" column.

Legion
Currency	Source	Eligible Raids/Bosses	Cap
Siegel des verheerten Schicksals	A) Obtainable (maximum 3 per week) from Erzmagier Lan'dalock (Dalaran - Legion) for various currencies, as below.	1st	2nd	3rd
Gold	1000	2000	4000
Order Resources	1000	2000	4000

B) Rewarded from certain Order Hall Missions - DOES NOT COUNT towards your weekly cap of 3 seals

The seals are granted as a "bonus" reward - you can obtain them by exceeding 100% mission completion chance.

C) Obtained by completing a weekly quest during Timewalking events - DOES NOT COUNT towards your weekly cap of 3 seals

D) Obtained via a Work Order in your Order Hall as part of an Order Hall Upgrade tier for 25 Ordensressourcen - COUNTS towards your weekly cap of 3 seals

This Work Order "completes" almost immediately (you don't have to wait for it).
The appropriate Tier 5 Order Hall upgrade must be selected for you to have this option.

Die Nachtfestung
Der Smaragdgrüne Alptraum
Mythic dungeons
Legion World Bosses:
Ana-Mouz
Calamir
Drugon der Frostblütige
Treibgut
Humongris
Levantus
Na'zak das Scheusal
Nithogg
Shar'thos
The Soultakers
Verdorrter J'im

Warlords of Draenor
Currency	Source	Eligible Raids/Bosses	Cap
Siegel des geschmiedeten Schicksals	A) Sold by vendors: Dämmerungssucher Krisek (Tanaan Jungle) - 240-300g* Rabensprecher Thelnaas (Tanaan Jungle) - 240-300g* Schicksalsflechter Seress (Stormshield) - 300g Schicksalsflechter Tiklal (Warspear) - 300g *NOTE - Cost from vendors in Tanaan vary with reputation level with Orden der Erwachten, with lowest cost being 240g at Exalted reputation. B) Obtained from garrison missions: Drov der Verheerer Rukhmar	Hochfels Schwarzfelsgießerei Draenor World Bosses: Drov der Verheerer Tarlna der Zeitlose Rukhmar	20
Siegel des unausweichlichen Schicksals	A) One per week can be obtained from Zwergenbunker / Kriegswerkstatt Stufe 3 in your garrison. Speak to Grun'lek (H)/Kristen Steinschmiede (A) to obtain your weekly seal. *NOTE - This seal counts as 1 of the maximum 3 seals you can obtain per week. B) Obtainable (maximum 3 per week) from Schicksalsflechter Tiklal (Warspear)/Schicksalsflechter Seress (Stormshield) for various currencies, as below.	1st	2nd	3rd
Gold	500	1000	2000
Garrison Resources	1000	2000	4000
Apexis Crystals	500	1000	2000

*NOTE - If you already obtained 1 from your Zwergenbunker / Kriegswerkstatt Stufe 3, only 2 more can be obtained for currency that week.

C) One seal obtainable for completing the Timewalking Bonus Event quest Ein brennender Pfad durch die Zeit (during Burning Crusade Timewalking, Ein gefrorener Weg durch die Zeit (during Wrath of the Lich King Timewalking) or Ein verwüsteter Pfad durch die Zeit (during Cataclysm Timewalking). The seals are in addition to the 3 seals per week otherwise obtainable.

Höllenfeuerzitadelle
Tanaan Jungle World Boss:
Oberster Verdammnislord Kazzak
Mythic Dungeons

Mists of Pandaria
Currency	Source	Eligible Raids/Bosses	Cap
Ehrwürdiges Amulett des Glücks	A) Sold by Kommandant Lo Ping in Townlong Steppes for the cost of 20 Geringes Amulett des Glücks each. Use the following macro to purchase them quickly and easily: /run BuyMerchantItem(1,1) B) Dropped by various rare spawns and summoned mobs on the Isle of Thunder.	Mogu'shangewölbe Das Herz der Angst Terrasse des Endlosen Frühlings Pandaria World Bosses: Galleon Sha des Zorns	20
Schicksalsrune der Mogu	Sold by Nebelwirkerin Ai on the Timeless Isle for the cost of 1000 Zeitlose Münze each.	Der Thron des Donners Isle of Thunder World Boss: Nalak Isle of Giants World Boss: Oondasta	20
Kriegsemblem	Weekly quest which grants 3 seals for the cost of 50 Geringes Amulett des Glücks total. Kriegsembleme, available from Ältester Liao, ground floor in Shrine of the Two Moons Kriegsembleme, available from Älteste Lin, ground floor of Shrine of the Seven Stars	Schlacht um Orgrimmar Timeless Isle World Bosses: Chi-Ji Xuen Yu'lon Niuzao Ordos	20

Below I have compiled some data on pets, mounts and other drops from bosses (both World and Raid bosses).
The "Bonus Roll" column notes whether the item in question is obtainable from a bonus roll (note that you can USE a bonus roll on all bosses, but you will not necessarily be able to get certain pets and mounts on the bonus roll).
NOTE: World Boss locations can be seen on a by mousing over the zone name in the "Source" column.

MOUNTS
Mount	Source	Bonus Roll Mount	Currency
Zügel der astralen Wolkenschlange	Elegon Raid Boss Mogu'shangewölbe Normal, Heroic	No	-
Sattel des Sohnes von Galleon	Galleon World Boss Valley of the Four Winds	Yes	Ehrwürdiges Amulett des Glücks
Zügel der himmlischen Onyxwolkenschlange	Sha des Zorns World Boss Kun-Lai Summit	Yes	Ehrwürdiges Amulett des Glücks
Ausgeburt von Horridon	Horridon Raid Boss Der Thron des Donners Normal, Heroic	No	-
Kralle von Ji-Kun	Ji-Kun Raid Boss Der Thron des Donners Normal, Heroic	No	-
Zügel der donnernden Kobaltwolkenschlange	Nalak World Boss Isle of Thunder	Yes	Schicksalsrune der Mogu
Zügel des kobaltblauen Urterrorhorns	Oondasta World Boss Isle of Giants	Yes	Schicksalsrune der Mogu
Koloss der Kor'kron	Garrosh Höllschrei Raid Boss Schlacht um Orgrimmar Mythic	No	-
Eisenhufzerstörer	Schwarzfaust Raid Boss Schwarzfelsgießerei Mythic	No	-
Sonnenfalke der Spitzen	Rukhmar World Boss Spires of Arak	No	-
Teufelsstahlvernichter	Archimonde Raid Boss Höllenfeuerzitadelle Mythic	No	-
Lebender Höllenkern	Gul'dan Raid Boss Die Nachtfestung Normal, Heroic, Mythic	No	-
Dämonischer Höllenfeuerkern	Gul'dan Raid Boss Die Nachtfestung Mythic	No	-

PETS
Pet	Source	Bonus Roll Pet	Currency
Drop: Winziges Terrorhorn Pet: Winziges Terrorhorn	Horridon Raid Boss Der Thron des Donners LFR, Normal, Heroic	Yes	Schicksalsrune der Mogu
Drop: Lebendiger Sandling Pet: Lebendiger Sandling	Council of Elders Raid Boss Der Thron des Donners LFR	Yes*	Schicksalsrune der Mogu *NOTE: In Normal or Heroic mode, this drops from Sandelementar trash mobs and cannot be bonus rolled.
Drop: Küken von Ji-Kun Pet: Küken von Ji-Kun	Ji-Kun Raid Boss Der Thron des Donners LFR, Normal, Heroic	Yes	Schicksalsrune der Mogu
Drop: Wabernder Klumpen Pet: Lebendige Flüssigkeit	Primordius Raid Boss Der Thron des Donners ONLY LFR	Yes	Schicksalsrune der Mogu
Drop: Dunkler wabernder Klumpen Pet: Zähflüssiger Horror	Primordius Raid Boss Der Thron des Donners ONLY Normal and Heroic	No	-
Drop: Sohn des Animus Pet: Sohn des Animus	Dunkler Animus Raid Boss Der Thron des Donners LFR, Normal, Heroic	Yes	Schicksalsrune der Mogu
Drop: Glibbriges kleines Sha Pet: Glibbriges kleines Sha	Sha des Stolzes Raid Boss Schlacht um Orgrimmar ONLY LFR and Normal	Yes	Kriegsemblem
Drop: Tröpfchen von Y'Shaarj Pet: Tröpfchen von Y'Shaarj	Sha des Stolzes Raid Boss Schlacht um Orgrimmar ONLY Normal, Heroic and Mythic	Yes	Kriegsemblem
Drop: Rußschmieds Bömbchen Pet: Rußschmieds Bömbchen	Belagerungsingenieur Rußschmied Raid Boss Schlacht um Orgrimmar LFR, Normal, Heroic, Mythic	Yes	Kriegsemblem
Drop: Kovok Pet: Kovok	Paragons of the Klaxxi Raid Boss Schlacht um Orgrimmar LFR, Normal, Heroic, Mythic	Yes	Kriegsemblem
Drop: Verderbter Nestwächter Pet: Verderbter Nestwächter	Schattenfürst Iskar Raid Boss Höllenfeuerzitadelle LFR, Normal, Heroic, Mythic	Yes	Siegel des unausweichlichen Schicksals
Drop: Alptraumwelpling Pet: Alptraumwelpling	Dragons of Nightmare Raid Boss Der Smaragdgrüne Alptraum LFR, Normal, Heroic, Mythic	Yes	Siegel des verheerten Schicksals

MISCELLANEOUS
Drop	Source	Bonus Roll	Currency
Schamanenschatz der Kor'kron (contains Kor'kron Dark Shaman Armor)	Kor'kron Dark Shaman Raid Boss Schlacht um Orgrimmar Normal, Heroic, Mythic ONLY drops for Shamans	No	-

Kommentar von siweia

For this "Seal of Broken Fate", what about the one we get from the orderhall?
Is there any quest id we can track it?

Kommentar von Haiborn

Here's a macro to show how many Seals of Broken Fate you have purchased this week.

Updated 12/13/2017 to include marks of class order hall quest as well as the quests from the archmage:

/run local c=0; for i,q in ipairs({43892,43893,43894,43895,43896,43897,47864,47851,47865,43510}) do if (IsQuestFlaggedCompleted(q)) then c=c+1 end end print(format("Seals obtained: %d", c))

Old version
~~/run local c=0; for i,q in ipairs({43892,43893,43894,43895,43896,43897}) do if (IsQuestFlaggedCompleted(q)) then c=c+1 end end print(format("Seals obtained: %d", c))~~

Kommentar von Cropz

As of right now, these seals are capped at 6 total, instead of the usual 10, so don't hoarde them too much.

Kommentar von Menjina

Seal of 42 Gold.

Kommentar von Termak

Seal vendor, Erzmagier Lan'dalock is outside Violet Hold instance, when you go there you see Blue "!" to your right.

Kommentar von Zerorunes

Bugged as of the first week of raids in 7.0.3 to allow more than 3 seals per week.

Video showing the bug here: youtube.com/watch?v=kVNEWn0h2jM

Kommentar von Ashlinn76

Is there a minimum ilevel to bonus roll on world bosses? Killed Levantus tonight after picking up my new seals but no bonus window popped. Current ilevel is 813.

Kommentar von Prinsalbert

Did you NOT receive a bonus roll when killing a world boss?
Don't worry; just kill the boss AGAIN and you WILL get the option (if not - third - just did a world boss in a full raid group (believe it may have been 2x raid groups, tons of people at least) and did NOT get the option to bonus roll. Killed the boss one more time (even though I completed the world quest) and voila - got the bonus roll on the second kill.

Too bad it was gold.. again! :)

Kommentar von Buckeroo

The work order for the seal from the Tier 5 Class Order Hall Advancement costs 25 order resources and takes 5 seconds to complete.

Kommentar von lordbear

They reduced the Seal cap to 6, guys. Not sure why Wowhead has not updated their info.

Kommentar von 794734

here is some info on how hard the hard cap is (I found out the hard way, sadly):

If you have 6/6 coins and you'd get one as a bonus from a mission, you will not get a 7th seal.

If you have 6/6 coins and you'd get one from the weekly quest (for example, this week it was A Burning Path Through Time), you will not get a 7th seal.

Kommentar von xyle666

ive now used 12 seals and not a single one gave me anything other than gold. whats the point in even bothering with them if item yield rate is as bad as it is?

Kommentar von AM1138

Before we pull, I think we ought to discuss the bonus situation.

Kommentar von Rudy199

Does it work for mythic+ dungeons when you kill the final boss?

Kommentar von PieceOfPanic

So, if I have 6/6 of these and complete the quest, will it fail or did I spend my resources on nothing really ?
-Cus, that just happened xD

Kommentar von insectKR

Seal of Fate: Class Hall is quest id for class hall order.
/run print(IsQuestFlaggedCompleted(43510))

Kommentar von marcusant

Pro tip:
If you just killed a World Boss but forgot to buy the seal for bonus roll, you can teleport asap to Dalaran
Buy the seal from Archmage Lan'dalock an phase into your class related area.
As soon as you phase in you will receive a bonus roll window of recently killed boss.

Kommentar von Edgysan

Since we are further in the Legion and most people have 3486465 of order hall resources, I have decidede to take the Grand Crusade (Allows to place a work order for an item which will instantly complete a World Quest once every 18 hours.) on my paladin.
Free WQ every 18 hours is much more valuable to me than 4k resources that I spend for the third seal.

Kommentar von cheinii

Upd: 1/2/4k g; 1/2/4 order res; 5/10/20 mh - time is money, time teaches you stuff and you get knowledge. knowledge is power, yet using it wisely is the key. ~Khadgar's quote is always on place xd

Kommentar von royalmac

Here's a macro to show how many Seals of Broken Fate you have purchased this week.
/run local c=0; for i,q in ipairs({43892,43893,43894,43895,43896,43897,47864,47851,47865}) do if (IsQuestFlaggedCompleted(q)) then c=c+1 end end print(format("Seals obtained: %d", c))
Thanks to Haiborn * Edit the Macro for Mark of Honors quest
And this Macro For Class Hall Seal
/run print(IsQuestFlaggedCompleted(43510))

Kommentar von missygiller

If you kill a boss but you forgot to pick up your seals beforehand: HEARTH TO DAL, get seals, re-enter raid before next boss is pulled, you will get the option to bonus roll as soon as you enter. Worked for me today!

Kommentar von pezelle

I have looked everywhere for an answer. Does anyone know where to get the order hall Seal of Broken Fate in the Mage Hall? 3 levels and have clicked on anything not a player and came up with nothing. With hunters it is right by the scouting map but evidently not so in the mage hall.

Kommentar von Specoli

Has anyone gotten a piece of gear from the extra roll from the seal of broken fates? I only ever get Wakening Essences

Kommentar von OfTheDeeps

~~Now its cost resets more than once a day, so you can buy it again for 1k resources if you wait a while.~~
Patched now, limit is 3 per week as it was in Legion.

Kommentar von Eddafred

~~Logging out/in seems to reset the quests that reward these, effectively removing the old limit of only being able to buy 3 per week.~~
EDIT: Looks like this is no longer the case as of 10.1.7
I guess Blizzard 'fixed' the problem, so we're back to a max of 3 per week.

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