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Kommentar von 1753348

As it currently stands Tower Knowledge is currently capped at 950 and you can not respec as of right now so when you make your choices be careful

Kommentar von Leviatham

i want to grind this, why does there have to be a weekly cap for an "optional" activity -.-

Kommentar von Virgo4Ever

I know there's a weekly cap, but can you re-run levels that you already done that week to get more, or do you have to keep doing higher levels?

Kommentar von aspasito

Can Twisting Corridors give Tower Knowledge as well?

Edit: They apparently cannot. The TC are unaffected by the Box of Many Things.

Kommentar von cremor

You can find a table that shows how much Tower Knowledge can be earned per layer/rating here: https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Tower_Knowledge

Kommentar von Borgoth

Based on what I've seen and some values provided by commentors. So far it looks like 4-star gets 80% of the TK, 3-star 66.6%, 2-star 50%, 1-star 40%. All divisions rounded up. Table below then contains calculated values based on all that. There are also some one-time +20 TK extras to earn (such as opening the cube or doing adamant vaults).

Might contain bugs, please feel free to correct and I'll update this post.

Layer	5-star (100%)	4-star (80%)	3-star (66.6%)	2-star (50%)	1-star (40%)
12	150	120	100	75	60
11	125	100	84	63	50
10	110	88	74	55	44
9	90	72	60	45	36
8	60	48	40	30	24
7	50	40	34	25	20
6	41	33	28	21	17
5	34	28	23	17	14
4	28	23	19	14	12
3	23	19	16	12	10
2	20	16	14	10	8
1	16	13	11	8	7

Credits for layers 11 and 12 data to folks at wowpedia.

Kommentar von TOMRUS

Tower knowledge cap seems to increase by 360 each week starting with week 3 of the 9.1 (700->1060->1420->1780->2140->2500->...).(##RESPBREAK##)272##DELIM##TOMRUS##DELIM##

Kommentar von Frogspoison

Layer 9 is the "sweet spot" for farming Tower Knowledge if behind.

Layer 9 gives 50% more Tower Knowledge then Layer 8, but the HP increase from Layer 8 to Layer 9 is a good bit less then 50%.

Layer 10 only gives ~20% more Tower Knowledge then Layer 9, but the HP increase is a bit more then 20%.

This doesn't even mention Layer 12, in which mobs well over 100% more HP (close to 300% more), but you don't even get 75% more Tower Knowledge from a clear.

And when you consider that Layer 9 only has 2 torments whereas you get 3, 4, and 5 Torments for the higher layers, it's the most efficient for farming. Unless it's a somewhat beneficial torment for your class/spec/playstyle.

Kommentar von drossn

Kind of annoying when you're close to the cap, that if you earn more than the space you have left...you get nothing on that run. I did my two Level 11 runs this week and got a bunch of knowledge, but was 41 short of the season cap and the adamant vaults gave me nothing. I had to run a Level 6 flawless that gave me exactly 41 to cap it out.

Kommentar von arisen1

Surprisingly I didn't see this info listed, but it requires 3510 tower knowledge to research every talent for the box.

It's been theorized in other comments that Layer 9 is the most efficient layer to run if you're simply farming knowledge.

That's 39 runs of Layer 9 (not including the automatic 20 tower knowledge you get for the quest).

If a run takes you 25 min on average and you can flawless each run, you're looking at about 16 hours, 15 minutes of time spent in Torghast to fully unlock all the talents. (13 hours if you can manage an average of 20 min per run).

As a side note, if you only do the bare minimum of your 2 runs per week, you're looking at 20 weeks to fully unlock the box.

Kommentar von larryoaks

Can you run the same areas (i.e. Skoldus Hall) multiple times and get the same amount of tower knowledge?

Kommentar von alpanhell

You can actually learn zero Tower Knowledge from a run. I had a run where I picked a level I probably shouldn't have, and had really bad torments and died 6 times.

Personally I think that's terrible design, you should always get some minimum. That way you can always progress (Game Design 101)

I did get my Soul Ash and Cinders though.

Edit: what's really stupid about this is you can actually get more than 200 (I just got 223) and yet the Tower Knowledge doesn't increase. So it can decrease based on performance, just not increase.

Kommentar von Qoko

Whilst farming Renown (I had already done the campaign before 80 was the max), I did a bit 'for science' on my 295 DH. The top comment with TK values is still correct: layers 13-16 do not increase TK gain (which is honestly ridiculous). Because of this, sub-12 is the way to go and layer 9 is the most efficient.

However, in contrast to most suggesting to Flawless 9s, I recommend to rush layer 9s instead and aim to get score increasing bonuses as you go. Going through Torghast fast tends to cut your run by 60%+ in time and drop your score to about ~150 baseline, whereas a perfect run will amount to about 300 score. The top limit for Flawless is 200, so the extra effort is wasted.

A couple of additional notes after farming a run or 20:

If your character is entirely new to the Box, get Effizienter Plünderer, Segen der Ahnen and Von der Qual befreit first.
Check if a wing has either Toben or Kraftsog or both. These Blessings are by far the most useful if you're rushing.
Perhaps somewhat surprisingly, leave Das Adamantgewölbe for last! The Vaults will greatly slow you down and the extra 10 TK isn't worth it (though you aren't forced to run it either way).

In the Soulforges with Rampage, rushing through mandatory mobs, activating Empowered as it becomes available and getting the four souls on floor 3 tends to get me to 180-200+ in approximately 4-5 minutes.

Having said all of that, I highly recommend not doing this grind on multiple characters. Aim for your main, especially in season 4: after getting the achievement for this, there's no reason to get it again. In case currencies are concerned, either use your main to grind some and send it over, or use Beutel mit wundersamen Wundern & Beutel voller erkundeter Seelen instead. For what it's worth, don't use Torghast to farm Cosmic Flux: the raids, M+ or ZM are far better sources.

Kommentar von Zifre

I've been farming Turmwissen as of Dragonflight; fastest layer to me is layer 12 for "The Upper Reaches". Gives 75 Turmwissen and the route is pretty straightforward and fast, just ignore everything and go straight to the bosses. I'm running this with my prot paladin and it takes me around ~3:30min to do the entire thing.

For Kiste der Zahllosen Dinge abilities, I would recommend getting these ones first in order to optimize your runs.

- Ermächtigte Schnelligkeit
- Segen der Urtume
- Ermächtigte Beharrlichkeit
- Unerklärliche Macht
- Ermächtigte Nova

Good luck!

Kommentar von Aurleis1

Layer 16 Torghast awards 150 TK on 5-star (the same as Layer 12). The only difference is that the Adamant Vaults awards 80 TK (layer 16) instead of 40 TK (layer 12)

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