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Kommentar von scourge2

Oh, sweet honey!

Kommentar von smaggara95

HOW TO UNLOCK THIS FACTION AS OF THE 8.2.5 PTR build 31337:
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1. Acquire Bumbles from Let's Bee Friends.

2. Locate Barry northeast of the Mildenhall Meadery flightpath in Stormsong Valley.
(Barry location: 69,64)

3. Summon Bumbles while next to Barry.

4. Follow the green scent-marks leading north to the Honeyback Hatchery.
(Hatchery location: 62,26)

5. After the short event, loot the Jelly Deposit just south of the hatchery.
(Jelly Deposit: 63,28)

6. Bring the Thin Jelly you looted from the Jelly Deposit back to the Honeyback Hivemother at the hatchery.

7. Talk to Barry in front of the hivemother and click his dialogue option.

8. Aaand you're done unlocking the reputation. The hatchery now allows you to enter inside. Now begins the fun part.

Entering inside the hatchery you can see Barry to the left. In front of him is a Nascent Harvester.
If you once again talk to Barry, he urges you to feed the Nascent Harvester with the jelly you found,
granting you your first 7 reputation. Afterwards, Barry relocates just outside of the hatchery, offering
his advice on bees.

HOW TO GAIN MORE REPUTATION AFTER UNLOCKING THE FACTION
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1. Collect Jelly Deposits from around Stormsong Valley. They look identical to the earlier deposit you looted earlier
while unlocking the faction. They are scattered almost all over Stormsong Valley. As of PTR build 31337, multiple
people can loot the same node. The more common Jelly Deposits yield 1 Thin Jelly, while the more rare Large ones
yield at least 3-4.

The deposits seem to disappear after a few seconds of looting them. You also can't loot the deposits while in combat.
Tip for spotting the deposits without the reputation goggles: set ground clutter graphics setting to 1.

2. Find Honeyback Harvesters. They are friendly bee npcs that when talked to start an event spawning waves of enemies that culminates in
a rare mob dropping a larger jelly deposit and possibly an extra quest item.

Confirmed locations where I've found Honeyback Harvesters so far: 63,21 - 61,31 - 33,32

After some testing, I found out that as of this PTR build (31337) they seem to be on a cooldown. Trying to move close to another Honeyback Harvester after already doing an event prior to that one causes it to phase out and be unable to be interacted with. You can't see the enemies spawned either if another player starts the event.

As a sidenote: the events may be tough to solo as a low geared character.

3. Patrolling around 60,17 is Honey Smasher, Boss level elite ettin with around 22M hp that drops jelly. Possibly also daily locked.

Kommentar von Buuloki

Quick Guide for Honeyback Hive
The Honeyback Hive is a new faction, added in 8.2.5. Noteably, it adds the the Harnisch der Honigrückenernterin. I've written up a small quick guide for this, however I also have a larger, in depth guide. Honeyback Hive & The Honeyback Harvester - Reputation & Rewards Guide - I will try to update the waypoints in this comment often, however the guide will always be up to date. If you find a waypoint I haven't put in, please comment it on the guide or message me directly.

To earn the Harnisch der Honigrückenernterin, you have to achieve these milestones:

Raise the Honeyback Harvester into a 'Mature' Honeyback Harvester, which is the equivelant of Exalted. Note you dont need the faction at Exalted.
Complete a short quest chain, ending with Den Stock verlassen, which will reward you your mount!

Requirements

Honigrückenschwarm and Harnisch der Honigrückenernterin are Alliance only .
Hummelbummel or Seebrisenhummel is required .
Flying is strongly recommended .

Unlocking the Honeyback Hive

Bring Bumbles or Seabreeze to 69.26, 64.18 in Stormsong Valley. When you are there, speak to Barry.
Fly to the hive, at 62.93, 26.58. No need to stand in the clouds or follow them.
Obtain the Jelly from the deposit at 63.20, 28.44. Bring this back to the bee. Congrats, you've unlocked the faction!

Ensure to talk to Barry, and then feed your first Jelly to the Nascent Harvester, giving you your first 20 reputation, allowing you to now see Jelly Deposits.

/way Stormsong Valley 69.26, 64.18 Bring Bee to Barry
/way Stormsong Valley 62.93. 26.58 The Hive
/way 63.20, 28.44 Jelly Deposit

Reputation Strategy
Ensure to have addons Paste and TomTom or similar location waypoint tracking addon.

Kill Honighauer every day - Honey Smasher gives 500 reputation with Honeyback Hive upon killing him and a chance to obtain Jelly. You can kill Honey Smasher once per day. He has a short respawn.
Do Honeyback Harvester events - These are found in multiple locations. You can do Honeyback Harvester events multiple times per day. Create a /tar macro and fly around the zone spamming it, or see waypoints below. Once finding one, you will be able to do a 'wave' type combat event.
Search for Jelly Deposits - Turn 'Ground Clutter' to 1 under System Settings. This will help you see the Jelly Deposits. Use group finder to phase hop, if you see groups in Stormsong Valley and your phase is too crowded. Feed jelly to the bees.
Buy Jelly from the Auction House - You can purchase all Jelly on the Auction House, if you are looking to speed things up.
Obtain this item as soon as possible - Bienenaugenbrille will help greatly with efficiency. You could also buy Verlockende Blüte, however you are often going to end up back at the hive regardless, especially if you have flying. Use all other Dünnflüssiges Gelée on reputation. Geléemagnet from Honey Smahser is helpful too.

/way Stormsong Valley 60.42, 18.52 Honey Smasher (Patrols this area)

Jelly Deposit Waypoints

As there are many waypoints, here is a google doc of every single waypoint, I'll keep updated too. CTRL+A, Copy and Paste into the Paste addon box.

Click the Toggler for Waypoints!
> Jelly Deposit Locations <

/way 33.12, 71.66
/way 31.71, 74.54
/way 28.22, 74.87
/way 63.24, 28.47
/way 61.40, 22.33
/way 58.85, 30.83
/way 55.10, 31.26
/way 54.03, 31.28
/way 55.78, 27.94
/way 56.06, 37.13
/way 53.30, 43.19
/way 49.85, 36.74
/way 56.28, 28.95
/way 58.58, 28.41
/way 63.27, 22.24
/way 61.45, 55.92
/way 55.23, 41.02
/way 56.63, 20.36
/way 56.40, 18.77
/way 47.39, 25.42
/way 37.33, 37.29
/way 35.71, 31.35
/way 46.55, 41.98
/way 66.93, 63.51
/way 64.24, 52.43
/way 62.08, 46.11
/way 58.27, 21.38
/way 56.14, 26.06
/way 52.53, 39.13
/way 63.13, 51.40
/way 58.30, 54.29
/way 54.72, 48.45
/way 56.21, 58.78
/way 66.43, 70.37
/way 69.71, 75.98
/way 71.32, 67.24
/way 66.00, 58.21
/way 68.25, 55.41
/way 61.47, 51.92
/way 64.01, 37.28
/way 62.50, 22.71
/way 53.91, 27.73
/way 52.37, 27.08
/way 49.26, 35.59
/way 58.08, 27.45
/way 63.60, 25.67
/way 31.46, 60.14
/way 60.52, 29.15
/way 63.60, 28.23
/way 57.86, 28.50
/way 57.58, 30.01
/way 55.24, 38.46
/way 53.34, 43.12
/way 44.63, 49.27
/way 44.21, 50.94
/way 40.39, 47.35
/way 36.77, 47.69
/way 35.55, 52.37
/way 35.11, 64.45
/way 33.24, 67.87
/way 33.39, 71.99
/way 29.82, 76.19
/way 25.51, 67.16
/way 56.25, 30.51
/way 53.04, 36.02
/way 40.92, 42.23
/way 38.81, 63.51
/way 45.88, 64.48
/way 72.13, 74.18
/way 67.60, 56.57
/way 63.61, 28.18
/way 63.86, 19.65
/way 46.40, 47.61
/way 41.10, 46.32
/way 31.31, 31.67
/way 35.75, 29.42
/way 35.80, 36.91
/way 37.97, 51.24
/way 33.60, 53.17
/way 27.64, 64.34
/way 28.01, 69.34
/way 27.50, 72.97
/way 62.76, 75.16
/way 71.19, 71.87
/way 70.08, 66.58
/way 67.31, 53.90
/way 63.13, 31.35
/way 66.97, 40.71
/way 55.07, 27.64
/way 44.78, 39.16
/way 42.56, 51.13
/way 32.06, 59.61
/way 30.92, 63.05
/way 49.12, 75.33
/way 52.33, 75.59
/way 63.13, 76.59
/way 72.16, 75.29
/way 56.02, 75.62
/way 56.30, 76.15
/way 64.06, 75.22
/way 60.91, 54.47
/way 59.13, 56.22
/way 47.02, 55.96
/way 48.95, 54.81
/way 49.11, 63.11
/way 44.00, 65.35
/way 37.08, 62.78
/way 36.41, 59.79
/way 26.42, 65.47
/way 26.97, 71.60
/way 26.25, 77.32
/way 53.21, 76.69
/way 53.57, 73.47
/way 52.20, 74.09
/way 63.46, 73.66
/way 68.10, 68.29
/way 61.18, 29.41
/way 60.06 ,19.55
/way 55.11, 20.90
/way 59.75, 23.54
/way 57.44, 27.81
/way 45.17, 27.68
/way 46.71, 22.79
/way 47.62, 29.34
/way 44.27, 41.48
/way 56.00, 37.18
/way 37.15, 38.81
/way 35.21, 32.14
/way 32.99, 32.78
/way 30.59, 60.36
/way 32.13, 57.98
/way 33.50, 63.32
/way 38.80, 44.15
/way 41.11, 46.35
/way 41.68, 40.23
/way 43.41, 45.00
/way 43.88, 34.37
/way 44.87, 26.25
/way 45.29, 42.12
/way 48.56, 30.06
/way 55.34, 25.60
/way 56.59, 42.28
/way 57.52, 22.29
/way 57.73, 24.32
/way 57.95, 49.74
/way 58.38, 61.43
/way 59.71, 31.59
/way 60.07, 19.53
/way 60.08, 21.51
/way 60.73, 32.85
/way 61.44, 17.36
/way 61.62, 18.68
/way 61.67, 29.37
/way 62.14, 39.64
/way 63.24, 29.93
/way 63.93, 36.41
/way 64.27, 29.00
/way 64.45, 31.03
/way 66.89, 34.55
/way 69.14, 66.86
/way 71.97, 66.68
/cway

Honeyback Harvester Waypoints

Click the Toggler for Waypoints!
> Honeyback Harvester Locations <

/way 25.66 72.24
/way 63.01, 21.31
/way 61.89, 31.95
/way 33.05, 32.43
/way 57.17, 51.25
/way 40.93, 62.14
/way 72.32, 52.24
/way 66.30, 70.00
/way 43.00, 33.00
/way 47.00, 32.00
/way 69.00, 70.00
/way 72.10, 52.30
/way 47.45, 32.12

More details on rewards, maps, information and tips included in my guide, Honeyback Hive & The Honeyback Harvester - Reputation & Rewards Guide.(##RESPBREAK##)268##DELIM##Buuloki##DELIM##

Kommentar von Cyrsztof

So umm, I couldn't find this information, so maybe some kind soul can tell - how many Tiny Jelly we need to give to the harvester to get the mount?
I farmed first 3500 points (700 tiny jelly) only to realise there is another level, and now I need to give him 1400 tiny jelly. How many levels there is?
I think not everyone starting this task realise how grindy this is. 100/hour of Tiny Jelly is a good score, so I would like to know how many days I have to grind for this mount. Thanks for replies in advance.

Kommentar von Deimos666

To made it easy to spam events i made this macro that suits me.

/run local p='player';p=C_Map.GetPlayerMapPosition(C_Map.GetBestMapForUnit(p),p);SendChatMessage(("Honeyback Hive Event Close to - %s - %.2f, %.2f"):format(GetMinimapZoneText(),p.x*100,p.y*100),"CHANNEL",nil,1);

Where this macro just get the player position and send the message to the general channel (that is the /1) if your channel number is different tan 1 change the number at the end of the macro.

Kommentar von Elenda

For anyone struggling like me to find the very first Jelly Deposit, it's just a bit SW of the hatchery. It was a small yellow version of the stuff you see all over the cave entrance, and it was not glistening like your usual interactive object.

Kommentar von poisonousfrog

Hitting exalted with Honigrückenschwarm does NOT count toward 100 ehrfürchtige Fraktionen or any derivative of the achievement.

Kommentar von kaleestraza

It's too bad the hive is located in the gloomy part of the zone. I was hoping for a pleasant place to hang out in!

Kommentar von AlbinoFreaken

Sadly, the 100% rep buff doesnt affect this faction..

Kommentar von Stargazer777

I hit exalted with the Honeyback Hive faction today, but my Honeyback Harvester is still a juvenile. There is no quest. Am I missing something?

Kommentar von syth

I've run two full circuits of SSV waypoints (about 90 minutes) and have found 9 thin jelly. At this rate, it will take me approximately 35 hours of flying around the valley to get the 2100 Also, didn't see a single one of the rares.

Kommentar von Eillesthis

Honigrückenernterin doesn't show up as one of your reputation factions like this faction. Rather, when you interact with the Schlüpfende Ernterin, there's a red progress bar at the top of the window showing how much you have fed it.

Kommentar von Helcayala

Here's my relaxed strategy (as a level 60) to get this mount using minimal game time (but spread in real time):

Purchase the Paar Bienenflügel for 250 Polierter Haustierglücksbringer to get the chain started & do the quests. You can also purchase Seebrisenhummel on the auction house or ask a friend to buy & cage it. Farming Ausgehärtetes Honigamulett can take a long time, so that's not an option for a minimal game time strategy.
Kill Honighauer on a daily basis until you hit revered with Honigrückenschwarm. He rather frequently drops a Reichhaltiges Gelée and a Gelée Royale, sometimes a Geléemagnet. Save the Reichhaltiges Gelée, until you have 20 of them. Feed any excess jelly to the Schlüpfende Ernterin. Don't bother wit bee events nor with flying around collecting Jelly before hitting revered (unless you see it passing by). In my opinion these are a huge waste of time (unless you want to rush getting the mount in real time, in which case this guide is not for you). This stage only takes a few minutes a day.
As soon as you hit revered, purchase the Bienenaugenbrille from Ingmar next to the hive for the 20 Reichhaltiges Gelée you saved.
Collect jelly in Das Sturmsangtal using the Bienenaugenbrille and a Geléemagnet in slots of 30 minutes until you've fully leveled your bee.
Be sure to trade Dünnflüssiges Gelée for Gelée Royale at Honigrückenschwarmmutter prior to feeding it to your bee.

Some numbers:

To level the bee you need 3500 friendship for Schlüpfende Ernterin + 7000 friendship for Junge Ernterin = 10500 friendship in total. This friendship can only be increased by turning in Jelly. To give you an idea, that's 2100 Dünnflüssiges Gelée or 525 Reichhaltiges Gelée or 263 Gelée Royale. Turning in that amount of jelly is worth 42000 rep with the Honigrückenschwarm, which is enough to get you from 0 neutral to exalted.
From 0 neutral to revered will take you maximum 42 days of killing Honighauer
I had following drops when collecting Jelly using the Bienenaugenbrille and a Geléemagnet

186 Dünnflüssiges Gelée, 11 Reichhaltiges Gelée, 3 Gelée Royale = 1270 friendship = 5080 reputation
181 Dünnflüssiges Gelée, 5 Reichhaltiges Gelée, 3 Gelée Royale = 1125 friendship = 4500 reputation
184 Dünnflüssiges Gelée, 11 Reichhaltiges Gelée, 3 Gelée Royale = 1260 friendship = 5040 reputation
201 Dünnflüssiges Gelée, 8 Reichhaltiges Gelée, 3 Gelée Royale = 1285 friendship = 5140 reputation
184 Dünnflüssiges Gelée, 7 Reichhaltiges Gelée, 2 Gelée Royale = 1140 friendship = 4560 reputation
210 Dünnflüssiges Gelée, 16 Reichhaltiges Gelée, 4 Gelée Royale = 1530 friendship = 6120 reputation

Play time estimate:

Kill Honighauer 42 times, 5 minutes each day = 3.5 hours
Level the bee from 0 to 10500 at an average of 1250 friendship/30min = 4.5 hours

So, within 8 hours play time you get the Harnisch der Honigrückenernterin. In real time it takes maximum 42 days. In reality it will take less time however, thanks to the drops from Honighauer, getting you to revered faster and leveling your bee already.

I did participate in a few bee events, but each of those took time and only rewarded few jellies (don't know if being level 60 had anything to do with it). Same for flying around collecting jelly without the Bienenaugenbrille: it felt very unrewarding.

Personally I waited too long and I was half past revered when I finally decided to spend some time harvesting Jelly. In the end, I flew around 3 hours to collect the Jelly I still needed to get the Harnisch der Honigrückenernterin.

Kommentar von Madeina

I started doing this in BFA and then forgot about it in SL so went back to see where I was at with feeding the bee to try to finish it off. The nascent harvester is in the cave and I can click on it to see that I am 1/3 for feeding but I keep getting buzzed out of the cave and can't remember if it was like this when it was current content. I went and found some jelly thinking that might let me in but I can't feed it and get buzzed out again. Trying to figure out if there is something I need to do to be able to stay in the cave and be able to feed the bee...any ideas?

EDIT:
It seems that all progress I had made in BFA was gone and I had to start all over by talking to Barry, following the trail and getting access from the Hivemother. You are then allowed access again and able to feed the bee, it takes approx 2100 thin jelly to go from 0 to exalted and get the mount. If you don't want to spend the time farming the jelly you can buy it on the AH, roughly 47k for 2100 on Stormrage as of the date this post was created.

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Honigrückenschwarm

Eine Bienenart, die bekannt ist für ihre gigantische Größe. Obwohl diese Bienen im Sturmsangtal noch nicht lange beheimatet sind, erfreuen sie sich großer Bekanntschaft unter Abenteurern und Insektenforschern.

Rang	Name	Min	Menge
1	Hasserfüllt	0	36000
2	Feindselig	36000	3000
3	Unfreundlich	39000	3000
4	Neutral	42000	3000
5	Freundlich	45000	6000
6	Wohlwollend	51000	12000
7	Respektvoll	63000	21000
8	Ehrfürchtig	84000

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