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Kommentar von Sipder2

You get Ve'nari reputation by doing weekly quests, killing rares and doing events.

Reputation levels:

Dubious 0 / 1000.
Apprehensive 0 / 6000.
Tentative 0 / 7000.
Ambivalent 0 / 12000.
Cordial 0 / 21000.
Appreciative 0.

Kommentar von Sammyx3

Are you asking yourself how to Min-Max your Reputation gains with Ve'nari in The Maw? No worries, I got your back!

First of all, let me explain how the Eye of the Jailer works:
You have 5 Tiers, and each Tier is made up of a maximum of 1000 Threat until you get to the next Tier.
Second of all, you should be aware of each action that awards you with Threat and things you should actively avoid doing:

Non-Reputation granting Enemies/Events:
Elite Enemies: 12 Threat
Normal Enemies: 6 Threat
Minor Enemies: 6 Threat after reaching a certain threshold of Minor Enemies killed.
Mining/Herbing: 12 Threat
Rich Mining: 24 Threat
Soul (From the Weekly Soul Gathering Quest): 100 Threat
Stygia Cache: 160 Threat

This is why you want to minimize the amount of Non-Reputation granting Enemies as much as possible. You have a leniency of 299 Threat before you lose out on Reputation.

Reputation granting Enemies/Events: (lower Threat-per-Reputation = better)
Non-Elite Rares: 80 Reputation, 300 Threat (3.75 TpR)
Elite Rares: 100 Reputation, 500 Threat (5 TpR)
Special Events (Bonus Objective): 40 Reputation, 300 Threat (7.5 TpR)
Wrath of the Jailer: 250 Reputation, 500 Threat (2 TpR)
The Hunt (Beastwarrens): 525 Reputation, 1000 Threat (1.9 TpR)
*Daily Quest: 75 Reputation, 500 Threat (6.66 TpR)
*Weekly Quest: 850 Reputation, 1000 Threat (1.33 TpR)
*Daily Perdition Hold/Barrens Quest: 100 Reputation, 700 Threat (7 TpR)
*Weekly Perdition Hold/Barrens Quest: 1100 Reputation, 1200 Threat (1.09 TpR)

*Threat is granted upon Quest OBJECTIVE completion, not upon turnin.

With that information, we can conclude that doing the Special Events is NOT worth it, especially since you get half the TpR by just doing Non-Elite Rares.
Optimally, we would just do Non-Elite Rares until we hit Tier 5, but sadly there aren't enough for this.

Another useful bit of information, is that you can complete Daily Quests while you are under the effects of the Tier 5 Eye of the Jailer, which means that you effectively get 0 Threat by completing them after you hit Tier 5, but still get the Stygia and Reputation. I recommend accepting the Quests at the start of your daily Maw, and almost complete them, so when you're Tier 5 you just have to collect one thing to complete the Quest.

The Strategy:

With all this in mind, we can form a strategy for farming the Maw on a daily basis:

1. Accept Daily Quests and ALMOST complete them (150 Reputation w/ no areas, 250 with Perdition Hold)

2. Kill as many 80 Reputation Rares as you can access (480 Reputation with no areas unlocked, 720 doing all of them)

3. Kill 5 100 Reputation Elite Rares, until you reach Tier 5 Eye of the Jailer (500 Reputation until Tier 5 is reached)

4. Complete Daily Quest Objectives and turn them in

Reminder to MINIMIZE killing Enemies that do not grant Reputation, you can keep track of your Eye of the Jailer progress better with this Weakaura, I STRONGLY recommend using it: https://wago.io/rHQaDfLhJ

There are also so called "Maw Lore" Items that can drop from Elite Rares and non-Elite Rares, which gives you a quest that gives 100 or 150 reputation to Ve'nari. A full list of all the Maw Lore items can be found on the Achievements page: Entschlüsselung der Intentionen des Todes. I am unsure if these can be farmed while you're at Tier 5 Eye of the Jailer, so if you have gotten one of those while having Tier 5, please let me know!

Here are waypoints for the 80 Reputation Rares: (don't attempt the Beastwarrens rares, unless you have unlocked the area)

/way 25.8 31.2 Adjutant Dekaris
/way 23.6 21.6 Orophea
/way 35.6 41.8 Soulforger Rhovus
/way 27.8 13.4 Conjured Death
/way 19.2 46.4 Eternas the Tormentor
/way 48.5 18.4 Obolos <Prime Collector>

/way 38.7 58.6 Yero the Skittish (Cave Entrance)
/way 37.5 62.3 Yero the Skittish

/way 46 74.2 Nascent Devourer
/way 48.8 81.4 Darklord Taraxis

Here are waypoints for all the 100 Reputation Elite Rares, although you'll only need to kill 5 before you hit Tier 5:

/way 38.9 41.2 Borr-Geth
/way 42.1 21.2 Ekphoras, Herald of Grief
/way 19.4 41.4 Apholeias, Herald of Loss
/way 28.9 11.6 Talaporas, Herald of Pain
/way 23.8 53.2 Eketra <The Impaler>
/way 16.6 50.8 Morguliax <Lord of Decapitation>
/way 27.6 49.0 Ikras the Devourer, Start
/way 44.2 51.2 Ikras the Devourer, End
/way 31.5 48.0 Ikras the Devourer, Good location to pull

/way 32.8 66.6 Shadeweaver Zeris
/way 28.1 60.5 Dolos <Death's Knife>
/way 27.4 71.7 Thanassos <Death's Voice>
/way 23 68.4 Exos, Herald of Dominion (cave entrance)
/way 46 47.7 Exos, Herald of Dominion Center of the Room (Use "Dominion's Calling" here)

/way 59.3 51.7 Cave Entrance Darithis the Bleak
/way 60.8 47.8 Darithis the Bleak

The add-on used for the waypoints is TomTom, you can easily Paste all of the waypoints with the add-on Paste.

This guide does not include weekly reset days, but I recommend doing the same strategy mentioned with Daily Quests, and the Wrath of the Jailer event can be completed just before you're about to hit Tier 5.

If you have any questions or concerns, feel free to ask them!

Misc. Info I've found:
- You can find Stygian Caches around the map which give 54 Stygia and 160 Threat (I've only seen one at the end of the River of Souls yet), since we have 299 Threat leniency we can squeeze one of these in before we do the last rare.
- Last time I've tried a Soul Well it awarded me with Stygia, but not any Threat. Try this out at your own risk, but you might be able to complete them before you do anything else, to get that extra Stygia. You can't complete these once you're Tier 5, though. I'vet ried it again and Soul Wells give 100 Threat, I also got 105 Stygia for completing it so it seems 4x as efficient to do two Soul Wells instead of one Stygian Cache.
- With a recent change Blizzard made, you now only receive the -100% Stygia and Reputation gains debuff once you hit 10 Stacks of the Tier 5 debuff, I've been long thinking about how you can maximize Reputation gains in this small timespan, and it looks like Bonus Objectives are the simplest solution to this! (unless you manage to grab a Rare on the way, but this Bonus Objectives are a lot less RNG dependant). I managed to do two Bonus Objectives before hitting Tier 5, which is an extra and free 80 Reputation!

Kommentar von BigBrandDeluxe

1) Avoid any killing blows or mining in the Maw as these activities give Eye without rep attached.

2) Focus on high rep VS eye activities, namely killing rares. There are three "types" of rares: major rares (100 rep like the pedestal summoned bosses), normal rares (like Elektra and morguliax, 80 rep) and event rares (the most common, such as agonix, 40 rep). You will need a group for anything that is not an event rare, but they only give 40 rep which is relatively low for their eye amount so it is best to avoid them if you can cap with just the others, I don't min-max which types of rare I kill a lot, because it would increase my Maw time considerably and pretty much force me to lead a group in order to lead them to the "correct" rares.

3) Don't finish (as in, getting all the items / activations needed) any quest until you are at maximum eye level, as you can do those at maximum eye for full rep and stygia.

And that's it, the rest is the human racial and darkmoon as pointed out, and also the faster you go, the more dailys you unlock earlier, thus causing you to accelerate in your rep gain over time.

Kommentar von Chr15ty

Interesting factoid: Venari has a Latin translation of "The Hunt" and "Dominus Venari" is "We hunt the Hunted"

Really curious where Blizz is going with this Character.

Speculators believe she was the reason the Helm of Domination ended up in Azeroth in the first place. And its not like we haven't done anything shady in the past ourselves.

Brokers seem to me to be "dead" Ethereals with different clothes on.

Kommentar von Stoneheart98

Sadly, it seems it doesn't count towards 100 exalted reputation achievements.

Kommentar von kain78

If your not sure if you bought something, if its there you didn't, upgrades vanish from the vendor after you learn them.

Kommentar von alpanhell

I finally got to the equivalent of exalted with her (Exalted=Appreciative) and I was pretty surprised that there was nothing like the Supplies that you get for continuing with other Factions after you get them to Exalted.

I still see plenty of ppl in the Maw all the time. What are they doing there if once you get to Appreciative you can't go any further?

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Rang	Name	Min	Menge
1	Unsicher	0	1000
2	Besorgt	1000	6000
3	Unverbindlich	7000	7000
4	Zwiespältig	14000	7000
5	Herzlich	21000	21000
6	Wertschätzend	42000

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