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Kommentar von 4688

Let's take a look at the math:
A total cost of 8250 arena points is 15% more than the season 1 set costs. (8250/7172=1.15)
So you would expect about 15% more "stats" from it, right?
Comparing _every_ attribute from season 2 set to the season 1 set, we get the following numbers:
218,69% armor (+997)
112,08% stamina (+29)
80,95% intellect (-16) (even worse than Dreadgear)
113,14% dmg/healing (+23)
107,14% crit rating (+4)
103,77% resilience (+9)
100,00% sockets (+0)
I'm going to weigh every attribute equal and calculate the geometric mean (cos we're working with ratios here), which yields the following result:
(218.69*112.08*80.95*113.14*107.14*103.77*100)^(1/7) = 113.95.
This means, you get ~114% stats increase for 115% cost increase, or put the other way round: you get what you pay for - if you are expecting to get only 7172 arena points until the end of season 2 (that means, you're going to have an average rating of 1714 /1655 / 1565 for 16 weeks), go for season 1 set. Otherwise, earning 8250 arena points in 16 weeks would require you to have an average rating of 1783 , 1716 , 1619 , which wouldn't leave any points for anything besides the set. An interesting side note: the Dreadgear season 2 set is about 118% (4% more) better than its season 1 counterpart - statswise.

So it all comes down to this: is your (5v5) team-rating around 1565? Go for season 1. Is closer to 1619? Go for season 2. Is it (constantly) better than 1619? Grab some weapons, too. ;) In case you already have full / half season 1 set, I would advise to complete the set and then go for the new weapons.

Kommentar von 40847

Great gear!
Although tier 5 is better...
As a lock i am... Locks need Stamina which both sets have and Spell damage which tier 5 has much more than Gladiotor set :(
In PvP we need also Spell damage...
Think about it!

Kommentar von 40449

Comparing the two M-gladiator sets I would much rather prefer this even with SL build.

Dreadgear / Felshroud

stamina 294 / 269 ( 25 stam less)
spell dmg 205 / 198 ( 7 spell dmg less)

spell crit rating 0 / 110 ( which is + ~5% spell crit rating)

for 25 stam and 7 spell dmg (ignoring the intel , which warlock basicly dont need) this is WAY better set in any way you can think of.

Not only for destru locks ,but for SL and maybe even affliction (crits on Nightfall with nice gear are rly something )

So basicly THIS IS the set that is better , so dont waste your points on the dreadgear ;) This is going to be way more usefull (not to mention that if someday u wanna respec for more dinamic play - from SL/affl to Destru ,the other set cant benefit you in any way ,it would be like you even dont have crit gear from 5man :P Which makes the points spend for the dreadgear a total waste )

Kommentar von 40449

I've tested with my warlock with a friend on lightning's blade . He had full normal Gladiator set Dreadgear + normal Gladiator staff . He speced to destruction . He couldnt crit me for ages. I have Only 50 resilence ,exactly zero Gladiator Parts. He had full and still nothing. He had exactly 15% crit without Devastation (so that is 20% total) and even I had more.

For 5 duels he crited me like 2 times and in half ot the duels he was spaming Shadow bolt rank 1 just to get the Shadowvurn debuff proc.

Overall if he would have picked up Felshroud instead of Dreadgear he would have 25% crit with destruction spells which arent very easy to achieve for any warlock with that much resilence and stamina gear (not to mention that most of the raiding warlocks dont even have 25% unbuffed)

Ofcourse DoT's arent effected as much as crit from the resilence rating and going for SL/ Affl in arena and picking up the Dreadgear seems way more reasonable. But these kind of actions wont allow you someday to respec for fun and start 2hiting ppl with soulfires , which aint my idea of good gear.

Kommentar von 59953

With the up and coming change to resilience in 2.2 (As it now effects DoT's) the set is even more appealing when compering it to Dreadgear.

So dont even think about going for Dreadgear

Kommentar von 15914

i think it's worth it to mix and match as you see fit rather than to judge the sets as wholes. for example, felweave shoulders are a no brainer, as is the headpiece for any spec. however i think the fear bonus on the dreadweave gloves makes up for the crit even for a dest build. as for the pants and chest, that should depend on your spec. dreadweave has considerably more stam and +dmg (9stam/4+dmg and 12stam/9+dmg respectively) in those slots while felweave of course has crit (29 and 30 rating).

"but what about set bonuses?" you ask. in my opinion if you realistically plan on getting 4 or more pieces, it's worth it to get at least two of each for double +35 resilience. i've had -0.2 sec immo before (at 60 from the blue PvP gear), and it really wasn't anything to write home about, even though i was dest then. i think 35 resilience is a better bonus, and it's worth getting it both times. one more reason to mix and match.

i'll probably go felweave shoulders, head and pants and dreadweave chest and gloves. i'm 27/34/0 right now, but i'd like to keep the option open for going back to dest.

Kommentar von pepsii

As destru i picked chest, head, legging and shoulders from felweave and hands from dreadweave, because of the 50% off fear interruption. As anything else than destru you should pick shoulders + head from felweave and hands, leggings and chest from dreadweave for the highest resilience.

Kommentar von asole

Doesn't matter if u are affilication or destruction build. Felweave better than Dreadgear. Why? Yes, Dreadgear has 25 stamina 27 int and 7 sdmg more than Felweave BUT Dreadgear has 110 crit rating which is equal to %5 crit rating. You should be low crit rating if u are aff build. Your enemies already have lots of resilliance and prolly u'll crit rare. I know dot's cant crit but shadow bolt or searing pain can (I dont think an aff build pass nightfall).

There tons of gems and some non set honor epics which u can do somethink about that 25 sta and 27 int. But u cant do anythink about 110 crit rate. Also bonus from Hands equal now (patch 2.2).

Kommentar von 80922

if we get 16 weeks for a season as savra said and i think by now most of the season has passed so what i would do is prepair for the gear needed for season set 3. And cause of set 1 and 2 the next will rpob look like malefic (t6) and might then be the last (they cant keep inventing new looks nor make pvp sets better then tier 6 in pve). Anyway time for getting entire season 2 set seems to be long gone.
Considering the dreadgear vs felweave id say unless your fully relieing on dots and draining go for a lot of felweave parts.

Kommentar von Pingone

It's very common for warlocks to use 2-3 parts of this Felweave set and 2-3 of the dreadweave set to get a double +35 setbonus.

Kommentar von Snoopybat

got this shoulder on my warlock they seriously rock! :)

Kommentar von 157005

Since it is common for people to mix the Dreadgear and the Felshroud in order to get the 2 +35 resilience bonuses, I thought I would compare the items by slot to help people decide how to mix them.

Shoulders
Felweave: +1 Stamina, +14 Spell Crit, +2 resilience
Dreadweave: +13 Spell Hit

I would go with the Dreadweave here. It is generally accepted that even for crit builds, spell hit is still better, Also keep in mind that the shoulders offer the least amount of spell crit out of the Felshroud, so since you need to give up 2 pieces this particular slot will cost you the least.

Hands
Felweave: +1 Stamina, +19 Spell Crit, +2 resilience
Dreadweave: +10 Intellect

This one seems like a no brainer to me, the Felweave is just flat out better regardless of your build. Even if you are for some reason attached to the 0.2 second Fear bonus, you can still grab these and have 4 Dreadweave.

Chest (includes socket bonus)
Felweave: +34 Spell Crit
Dreadweave: +12 Stamina, +6 Intellect, +2 Resilience, +9 Spell Damage

Given the huge difference in stamina and spell damage, I would select the Dreadweave robe. Yes, 34 is a lot of Spell Crit, but if you can't give that up you should just get the entire Felshroud rather than mix.

Legs
Felweave: +29 Spell Crit
Dreadweave: +9 Stamina, +7 Intellect, +3 Resilience, +4 Spell Damage

Head
Felweave: +18 Spell Crit, +6 Spell Damage
Dreadweave: +6 Stamina, +9 Intellect

Since so far we have 2 pieces from the Dreadgear and only 1 piece from the Felshroud, at least one of these two MUST be Felweave. If you are heavy crit, you might consider making both of these Felweave. If crit is less important to you, I would suggest the Dreadweave legs and the Felweave head piece. This way you give up less stamina and gain spell damage.

So with our mixed set, we come to these numbers:

Armor: 1837
Stamina: 289
Intellect: 81
Spell Damage: 211
Resilience: 134
Spell Crit: 37
Spell Hit: 13

These numbers do not include socket bonuses (for easier comparison, since Wowhead does not), and most importantly do not include the 2 +35 resilience bonuses. Altogether, you come to a total of 215 resilience for the mixed set.

Given the drastically higher resilience, higher spell damage than either set alone, and only slightly less stamina than the Dreadgear set, I feel this mixed set is the way to go unless you are a high crit build.

Kommentar von stonecow

With the new 3.0 trees, Deep Demo and Deep Affliction have talents that benefit off the lock's crit: Imp Demonic Tactics & Pandemic, respectively. So with that said this set definitely gets more attractive than on live atm.

On a sidenote, from datamined info, it looks like s5 will only have one set for locks now. Basically a combination of Felweave and Dreadgear since all trees will benefit from crit now. Makes sense but still sucks for those that were still intending to mix sets for additional 2pc bonus.

Kommentar von 371256

S1 and S2 can now only be purchased with tier tokens from the vendors on the Isle of Quel'danas.

Kommentar von 195691

Isn't this the set that Nyhm wares in all his videos?

Kommentar von Narkano

AVAILABLE Kezzik der Meuchler

Kommentar von Tim200

Goes really well with http://www.wowhead.com/item=30910.

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Teufelsschleier des erbarmungslosen Gladiators

Teufelsschleier des erbarmungslosen Gladiators ist das Arena-Set Saison 2. Es enthält 5 Teile. Hat einen Set Bonus bei 4 Teilen.

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Das Tragen mehrerer Gegenstände aus diesem Set gewährt Eurem Charakter Boni.

4 Teile: Verringert die Abklingzeit Eurer Fähigkeit 'Erbarmungslose Entschlossenheit' um 20 Sek.

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