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Kommentar von 534473

Although the wording makes this pretty clear already, the cleave does not hit the original target. This means this trinket and others with the cleave damage effect are very poor for fights which are purely single target and still pretty poor for fights with only two targets. Of course, it makes up for this by being very strong indeed for larger packs of mobs.

Kommentar von 149665

From an Unholy DK point of view...

It seems to proc on at least nearly everything. I saw it proc on disease ticks, white hits, Blood Boil, Death Coil, and melee special attacks. Didn't see it proc on D&D, but testing was limited. I'm not sure whether the cleave hits a short distance around the proccing target or a short distance around the wielder, but either way the range is quite small. It's physical damage, but seems unaffected by armor - it was always identical to the proccing hit.

Given that the best alternatives this tier provide a 6-9% boost in overall damage, plus the same amount of strength, this trinket breaks even when there are 2-3 useful targets in close proximity (depending on how efficiently your class normally spreads damage to 2-3 targets).

Kommentar von trekker9876

askmrrobot shows this trinket as the worst in the game for frost DK.. showing the ghost iron dragonling trinket as being higher scored!
Not too sure, but I certainly did notice my dps DROP by quite a bit once I replaced my 502 feather of jikun with my flex 540 fusion fire core.

Kommentar von smackthekids

Honest opinion for Warriors after obtaining this myself:

-It is obviously a pretty bad choice for most all fights.

-For the lower geared people who are using Brutal Talisman still because you haven't gotten far enough in SoO for other trinkets to drop, the STR proc of both line up every 85 seconds and its 15 seconds of death.

-Useful for Galakras and Spoils for Warriors. When its double upgraded, with the heavy amount of mobs, it procs on average every-other whirlwind (5 enemies, each hit with both weapons during 1 whirlwind = 10 chances to proc, doing that twice = 20 chances to proc; add in auto attacks and current deep wounds and it comes out to about 24 to 28 chances to proc per 2 whirlwinds, equal to the proc chance, and verified in testing.)

-Remember it procs off nearly EVERYTHING, meaning, even with 5+ mobs, I've had an 800k Execute be spread to 5 enemies for ridiculous damage. Also procs off Legendary Cape procs, deep wounds (encouraging multidotting), and the trinket proc can proc itself.

-Trinket procs appear to literally duplicate the damage that procced it, and not actually consider it an attack on another mob which would allow it its own chance to Crit or increase in damagge from the original attack that procced it). Long story short: if a 200k hit procced it, it will always cleave for 200k and can't Crit itself. If your original 200k hit Crit for 400k, the trinket would proc for a 400k non-crit. Exact duplicate w/ no independent damage modifiers

-General rule is you will need 4+ enemies to cleave to make this come out on top, since 3 or less mobs, you're only actually hitting 2 with the proc, and for each additional mob you're cleaving you have that many more chances to proc it per GCD.

-Trinket actually lowers in Value the higher you and your raid's iLvl gets, as mobs will die faster, you'll have significantly less uptime on multiple adds (think Galakras and how fast adds will die when your raid is full 553+). The exception to this would be if there were encounters like Protectors who were stacked the entire fight, but this isn't the case for any SoO bosses)

-Fun for Timeless Isle and Heroics, not useful for any other raid boss in SoO.

Kommentar von 580885

On my Fury Warrior, my feelings on this trinket are mixed.

With me wielding two weapons, the trinket procs a lot of the time, especially during Bladestorm and Whirlwind. This makes the large trash pulls in SoO absolutely trivial. It also has a lot of use on the Crate boss, where you can use the Cleave damage to take down a lot of smaller targets at once.

However, it's near-useless in single target fights, or fights with only 2-3 adds. The Cleave doesn't hit the primary target, so the passive is either ineffective, or completely useless. The proc effect is the same as all other SoO trinkets, except all the other SoO trinkets (And the ToT trinkets, at that) have way better passives for single target fights.

It's nice to hold on to, especially if you want to do stupidly high AoE damage, but be sure you have another trinket to use for single target bosses, because this won't do the trick on them.

Kommentar von Anaranjada

I managed to pick up the Heroic Warforged version on my pally because no one else really wanted it, and it was doing a solid 10% of my damage on our H Galakras attempts. (Pushing my DPS past that of our other ret pally who outgears me by ~10 item levels.) Our frost DK was seeing similar numbers (~9% of his total damage) with a normal warforged version.

Highly recommend this trinket for any strength melee for AOE/cleave fights. It is a beast.

Kommentar von warcanon

Proc for this is called Hartnäckig

Kommentar von Andromina

9 - 27 - 2013 ToT LFR Part 2 Summary

525 Ilvl Frost DK

Here is a list of attacks for the whole raid

1. Andromina 279164189 (143135, 11.1%)

Detail Window - Andromina's Hostile Attacks

Ability Count Damage %
1. Frost Strike 568 65643418 24.6
2. Obliterate 306 64234100 24.1
3. Howling Blast 978 54292579 20.3
4. Melee 768 29989380 11.2
5. Frost Fever 1454 24783467 9.3
6. Blood Plague 800 10233810 3.8
--> 7. Cleave (Fusion-Fire Core) 345 8990572 3.4 <--
8. Death and Decay 1118 5212516 2.0

Misc others. Trinket based off my run has a 3.4% chance to cleave doing about 26060 damage per cleave

Kommentar von TheoHoutman

Dropped for me today, Its verry simular to Thok's Tail Tip but with lower cooldown on it.

Kommentar von callmejoe

Intellect version - Kristall des aufbrausenden Zorns
Agility version - Siegel der Raserei

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