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Kommentar von 66874

Is this reusable. Or is it you have to buy 1 every time you use it....

Kommentar von Mainfold

uhm, can this be used in arena? seeing how things with 10 min CD can be used but if they had 11 min they would be a no-no.

Kommentar von Cymorth

Just a simple question..... With the tooltip saying increase MAXIMUM HP by 15% does that mean youll just get a bigger pool of HP thus needing a heal straight away or will it bump you up with 15% free health too?

Just wondering if its any use to buy one of these, chuck it down mid fight and not make any difference unless someone AOE heals straight after. just like when priest buffs fortitude in start of BG's i end up spamming chain heal on everyone as they dont go full health.

Thanks, just curious before i buy one 2.5k rep to go now

Kommentar von 102520

As stated, this can not be used in arena (which is the original reason I bought it for a few months ago) but it wasn't a complete waste in hindsight. The way to get the most out item is to make a macro to this effect

/use master healthstone
/use horde (or alliance) battle standard
/use battlemaster's <insert name of trinket>
/use talisman of the horde
/use super healing potion

This a killer ~5800 to ~7000+ hp instant "heal" macro that works wonders if the sh*t is about to hit the fan in a BG

You can rotate the order of the HS or battle standard dependant on what you want to burn first. In my case, since I try to save whatever HS I can get my hands on, I put the battle standard first in my macro.

Or if you are trying to PVP and conserve money/honor

/use horde (or alliance) battle standard
/use master healthstone
/use battlemaster's <insert name of trinket>

Works as a great ~3300+ instant free "heal" that should at least buy you time to run away or hopefully finish off your target

PS: I say "heal" because the battlemaster buff is only 15 seconds long and the flag can be killed if targeted.

Kommentar von 33153

Did they remove the old version? I just went back on my old pvp rogue where i know i had this back from when it was from ranks and i can't seem to find it in my bank.

Kommentar von 129192

I don't see a reason why this item shouldn't be of a rare quality, just like the AV one.

Kommentar von Knellox

Note this also shares its cooldown with duplicates of itself, meaning if u buy another you have to wait the 10 minute cooldown from use of the first regardless. I found that one out the hard way, the 15k honor of raping bg's at level 29 way. =D

Kommentar von 330050

Allmighty Horde Flag!
*Stands and Salute*

Kommentar von Ihmemies

Does aoe kill the flag or must it be manually targeted like a Shaman's totem etc.?

Kommentar von 44002

Is this single use or can you use it over and over once the cooldown has expired?

Kommentar von 192088

Kinda worthless now that any class can kill it with just one hit.

Kommentar von 491667

I know that it isn't technically a battleground, but when during a battle, is it usable within Wintergrasp?

Edit: Just tried it, and it doesn't. If you're looking to use it in a Wintergrasp game, it's a no go fellow Horde. Oh well. We do not need inferior flags hanging from a branch to make us mightier! We are the Horde! (/roleplay)

Kommentar von 228781

2250 Honor points since patch 4.0.1 which is effectively the cost of 2 Wrathful (Season 8) pieces of the set or a Wrathful weapon.

It's previous cost of 18k Honor was way cheaper than now. Good for you if you already have it ^^

Patch 4.0.3 - Item now costs 500 honor, lasts for about or less than a minute (still unclear) and has a 2 minutes cooldown!

Kommentar von Stigmata

Currently down to 500 honor - a more reasonable level.

Kommentar von 303818

I do not understand the tooltip for this item. Also, it seems to be extremely rarely used across all the BG brackets I've ever seen on ten all class toons.

Is the health of the flag always 1500 health? Even at max level (85 at the moment)?

If so, are there no other battle standard items? Is this the reason why the standard is so incredibly rarely used, despite its recently lowered cost?

Kommentar von 593314

I bought this recently assuming it would apply to everyone in the battleground. Unfortunately (as the tooltip implies), it only gives the 15% extra health to players in your particular 5-man party, not the entire raid.

Kommentar von 445579

Not usable in Tol Barad, sadly.

Kommentar von Bozanimal

Suggested places to drop your Battle Standard

The Battle Standard is almost never expected, and is hugely beneficial while defending nodes and flag carriers. Most players will have no idea what it is and will ignore it like a Shaman Totem, despite the fact that destroying it instantly removes 15% health from the opposing players in range (which is usually equivalent to a TON of damage). Still, it is destroyed if an opponent sneezes, so placing it out of the way is still a good idea.

Alterac Valley and Isle of Conquest - In general, nobody targets the Battle Standard in the large-scale PvP scenarios. There is usually so much going on that the Standard is typically overlooked. Just drop it any time you have a large contingent of players clashing against the opposition.

Arathi Basin, Battle for Gilneas, and Eye of the Storm - Each node has a building nearby that you can use to place the Standard out of LoS (Line of Sight). Best used in defense of a node as enemy players are approaching. For example, you see incoming enemies in Battle for Gilneas? Run inside the closest building, drop the Standard, and run back out to meet the opposition.

Strand of the Ancients - Fairly useless on offense, but on defense you can drop the standard behind and to the side of a wall, preferably to the far side of the stairs leading to the turrets. This keeps them out of LoS while being within range of players on both sides of the wall, so it's useful both before and after a wall is breached. Best saved for the final wall, Gate of the Yellow Moon.

Twin Peaks - This is most useful for flag defense in your flag room while defense is attempting to down the opposing flag carrier. The flag room in Twin Peaks is quite open, making the second floor overlooking your flag room the best available location.

Warsong Gulch - This is most useful for flag defense in your flag room while defense is attempting to down the opposing flag carrier. Drop it either in the small room on the main floor or in the crevices behind your flag.

Kommentar von smiley001

Horde Battle Standard.... Potentially the most powerful (re)usable inventory item during BG's that nobody ever remembers to use :P

Kommentar von 1064648

This can actually be healed by a druid's rejuvenation spell.

Kommentar von Cynwise

Horde Battle Standards at the vendor now say "Requires Level 60." Restriction persists on purchase. Trying to use the item both inside and outside of BGs gives the error "Character is too low level to use this item."

Battle Standards purchased prior to Shadowlands on low-level characters (I checked a 10, 11, 14) do not have this tooltip restriction. I'm not sure if this restriction came in at SL launch or on 9.0.5. These aren't the kind of things one purchases often.

I was going to chalk this up to tooltips being completely broken in Shadowlands, but it really does look like new purchases of the Battle Standard has been given a minimum level requirement on new purchases only.

Alas.

Kommentar von Yabolahan

The standard appears to no longer affect the party and only affects yourself. The tooltip is wrong. I put down the banner and checked the buffs of nearby allies. No one had the HP increase except for me.

Kommentar von favebook

This item IS reusable, no need to buy multiple.

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