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Kommentar von Boxofbeer

Here's the list of Protoform Synthesis crafting materials and how to get them (drops is not 100%) (under constriction)
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Uncommon Protoform Synthesis crafting materials (Can be bought at AH except Genesispartikel)
Material	Source	Used to craft
Genesispartikel	Regular mobs	Every Mount & Pet
Ambystidengitter	Ambystan Mobs	Ambystidenflitzer Archetyp der Metamorphose
Aurelidengitter	Aurelid Mobs	Archetyp der Erneuerung Protoprickler Schreckensmeduse
Bufonidengitter	Bufonid Mobs	Archetyp des Gleichmuts Goldplattenbufonid Handschuhe der hypnotischen Flamme Hüpferprototyp Rostroter Bufonid
Cervidengitter	Cervid Mobs	Todesläufer Blasser majestätischer Cervid Zügel des gemarterten Zerethhirschs
Helicidgitter	Helicid Mobs	Archetyp der Wachsamkeit Bronzener Helicid Mikrolicid Scharlachroter Helicid Serenade Schnecki Gescheiterter Flitzopodenprototyp
Geomentargitter	Geomental Mobs	Archetyp der Animation Stabilisierter Geomentar
Leporidengitter	Leporid Mobs	Archetyp der Multiplizität Hoppelnder Leporid
Puttridengitter	Contained in nests	Archetyp der Befriedigung Multihuhn Aggressiver Puttrid
Protoornidengitter	Avian Mobs	Archetyp der Bewegung
Raptoragitter	Raptora Mobs	Wüstenschwingenjäger Schlundadaptierter Raptora Raptorasturzflieger
Skarabidengitter	Scarabid Mobs	Archetyp des Überlebens Wilder Skarabid
Tarachnidengitter	Tarachnid Mobs	Archetyp des Räubertums Genesiskrabbler Unergründlicher Krabbler Tarachnidenkriecher
Ungeformtes Gitter	Core Mobs	Archetyp des Fokus Omnipotenzialkern Resonantes Echo
Vespidengitter	Vespoid Mobs	Archetyp der Arglist Bronzeflügelvespid Summ Geschmiedeter Tückenflügler Vespidenflatterer
Viperidengitter	Viperid Mobs	Archetyp der Gerissenheit Plageviperid
Vombatagitter	Vombata Mobs	Geschmückter Vombata Archetyp der Entdeckung Neugieriger Kristallschnüffler Dunkler Vombata Wühlender Vombata

Rare Protoform Synthesis crafting materials
Material Source Used to craft
Schmuckstück der reinen Innovation Schlundadaptierter Raptora Goldplattenbufonid

Schimmer der Arglist Dreadlords Archetyp der Arglist Aggressiver Puttrid

Schimmer der Metamorphose Mawsworn Archetyp der Metamorphose Stabilisierter Geomentar

Schimmer des Gleichmuts Glimmer of Serenity Archetyp des Gleichmuts Schnecki

Schimmer der Animation Elite Mobs Archetyp der Animation Omnipotenzialkern

Schimmer der Gerissenheit Archetyp der Gerissenheit Wühlender Vombata

Schimmer des Räubertums Archetyp des Räubertums Schreckensmeduse

Schimmer der Wachsamkeit Archetyp der Wachsamkeit Plageviperid

Schimmer der Entdeckung Annelid Mobs Archetyp der Entdeckung Protoprickler

Schimmer der Multiplizität Sentient Overgrowth Archetyp der Multiplizität Multihuhn

Schimmer der Bewegung Raptora Mobs Archetyp der Bewegung Wilder Skarabid

Schimmer der Befriedigung Archetyp der Befriedigung Mikrolicid

Schimmer des Überlebens Archetyp des Überlebens Resonantes Echo

Schimmer der Erneuerung Archetyp der Erneuerung Hoppelnder Leporid

Kristallisiertes Echo des Ersten Lieds Crystallized Echo of the First Song Neugieriger Kristallschnüffler Herzgebundener Lupin Geduldiger Bufonid Serenade

Ewige Wutperle Elite Mobs Geschmiedeter Tückenflügler Raptorasturzflieger

Schimmer des Fokus Ambystidenflitzer Archetyp des Fokus

Linse der fokussierten Absicht Sold by Vilo for 300 Gold - Die Erleuchteten revered Geschmückter Vombata Rostroter Bufonid

Schlundgeschmiedetes Zaumzeug Dunkler Vombata Schlundadaptierter Raptora Zügel des gemarterten Zerethhirschs

Protoformempfindungskrone Elite Mobs Summ Unergründlicher Krabbler Blasser majestätischer Cervid

Offenbarungsschlüssel Rare Mob Scharlachroter Helicid Tarachnidenkriecher

Werkzeuge unbegreiflicher Experimente Todesläufer Hüpferprototyp Gescheiterter Flitzopodenprototyp

Unlegierter Bronzebarren Bronzener Helicid Bronzeflügelvespid

Unendlicher Ruf des Windes Avian Mobs Wüstenschwingenjäger Vespidenflatterer

Kommentar von Mystic69

Had this drop off Normal Lihuvim

Kommentar von Deathcam

Had one of these drop from Oleatruhe
screenshot proof: https://imgur.com/a/zvgcnB9

Kommentar von Nekyr

Can confirm this drops in LFR, only saw one drop in a full group though (but can't be sure how many have unlocked mount synthesis).

Kommentar von Dinacti

I can confirm this dropped for me off of Lihuvim on LFR difficulty, I killed and looted the boss last week on Normal (Before the release of the LFR Wing) and I didn't get the item from it. I'm very not into raiding so I'm going to stick to LFR + Normal raiding with my guild casually every week until I get all 3 needed for the mount crafting!

Kommentar von Aiyun

We used to farm mounts in raids, now we farm mountmats.
Got mine from Lihuvim after ~ 20 LFR runs. Not bad.

Kommentar von Pathstrider

The drop chance of this is horrendous. When you can only get it from raid or olea cache, the drop % needs increasing.

Kommentar von Zitchdog

Anyone know if this item can be looted without unlocking the forge? Don't wanna run LFR on my alts that may or may not be eligble to loot these sort of items.

Kommentar von Mauser13

Like many others I dont really raid but focus more on collecting mounts etc I think its kinda weird to have the Mawforged Bridle and Tools of Incomprehensible Experimentation locked behind doing the raid. I've bought like 20 Olea Caches but haven't found any so considering you need 3 of each I can already tell its going to take ages. Seems like all we can do is hope they increase the drop chance from the cache or add other ways to obtain the materials.

Kommentar von Tsukasa117

I've unlocked the Pet forge to unlock the ability to collect the mats but do you have to do the second part with Tahli to get this item or other blue mount items specifically? I did that quest chain on my monk and it was awful and would like to avoid having to on multiple characters. My plan was to do the LFR version on multiple characters and sending the mats to my main who has done the Tahli chain.

Kommentar von Semgoni

This can't be real. Been doing 3 runs a week since the 3rd week of the patch and I still haven't received a single one from the raid. Am I just really unlucky or is there something wrong? I do have all the recipes for it. It just doesn't want to drop...

Kommentar von Alieru

In over a dozen Lihuvim kills so far, I've never seen this drop for ANYONE in the raid.

Kommentar von ketchup2

Please Blizzard up the droprate and make them available not only in raid ty.

Kommentar von Takrem

Can you get this only once a week, like regular boss loot, or more often?

Kommentar von Doloria

Ahem, Werkzeuge unbegreiflicher Experimente has the same icon as Verlorener Ohrring. Verlorener Ohrring is junk caught when fishing. It has a vendor value of 62 silver. Feels like we're being trawled, I mean, trolled.

Hey Bliz, can we make a substitution here? They look like the same part and there's a supply shortage of Tools and there are mounts to be forged. Time is short, we're going to be moving on soon.

Oh, and I heard Werkzeuge unbegreiflicher Experimente sometimes falls into Stone Soup. I've been drinking an awful lot of soup and... no Tools. I’ll admit it’s invigorating for a short time. The ingredients - just rocks, water and leftovers. But that vendor in Haven is making a killing selling Leerer Kessels. Vendor says I got it all wrong, sometimes a Schimmer der Befriedigung can get mixed into the soup. Now, that I can confirm and an alt confirms. Made a couple of pets - a blue poulid and a silver snail.
Edit
Beware. Don't use Werkzeuge unbegreiflicher Experimente to create Gescheiterter Flitzopodenprototyp. Wish I'd read the comments about this helucid mount....

Bursi says:
Only 110% running speed with this Gescheiterter Flitzopodenprototyp mounted.
Running unmounted is 100%.

I'm very disappointed, I like the coloring of this snail most of all snails and then you can't use it normally as a ground mount.

Kommentar von Jurasfcb

That drop rate need to be rly fix... open more then 30+ Olea Cache and nothing.Also zero from Lihu.And I need another 2 those tools..

Kommentar von nibu

There really needs to be another source for this item. Been "farming" forever, still only have the one from the quest. And now, with Season 4 on the way, it will be even tougher to get a Lihuvim kill weekly. Please, please, please Blizzard, add it to a vendor or something.

Kommentar von Detamble

A good thing to do is get an alt class that can be a tank through the ZM mount forge questline. Then you can queue LFR for Lihuvim wing as tank, and get a group every week within minutes. I had no idea what I was doing as DH tank and it went totally fine. I looted this on my alt and sent it to my main.

Kommentar von Gojira615

I’m curious. Has anyone received all 3 Tools for the mounts? I have the one from the quest and one drop in 30+ kills and none from what has to be over 100 caches. In fact the only note worthy things I have from the cache are a glimmer of satisfaction and glimmer of cunning.

Kommentar von Kaybi

This item is supposedly 1/16 drop chance, I'm about 40 kills in (all dificulties and toons with the mount forge unlocked) and not a single tool has dropped for me
I made a rarity string in case anyone wants to track their horrendous luck as much as me :3

AzF+Af8CapVqG6WaTXBTqvilArel7ETaC7uJ9lPST5UYpkq/URmqQgYLNFzioCocQ5yjlIWqWqqCFqPKclE9pVom1HOUiSppqqTJokxXLqqiy6TrqGqjVGmzkA5TfFaRaYL6Jsh5qarTIqMpMV5FnZTKOAHXhLinUlZKVdaqUI8JDYIKT9PGUEFjVLhKwxM0w4evvyi8q88eeNNZuAz+L+5wwbA9Nm1lDPSF51rUzPAExYdnZspQQeM3jl8bIahws2krY6AEw+Bm01bGQMMRuJ4Llw8fLk1TeOU4gVmDXNQa7KTItZKrRSVLPEGtwee5aJ6aypklTsJlERkqKAElgZjYbRhctBgpKiixw5NkM1LUa4pGk8gXlpShgpIwPiix44OSCD4oCeFjcKaMJU6iws2mrYyBEgyepq3LQEnARkIBDIOzdJJm/Fzhh71dfHQN3y/3vp^&*TopHhw/bjc4j5+EDDREIhj/Ag==

(It will not track Oleatruhe since you can only add 1 source to custom strings)

GOOD LUCK!

Kommentar von oktawia94

After 52 Lihuvim kills on different difficulties and 168 opened Olea Caches got these 2 items. My agony is over.

Kommentar von palant

Should be called Tools of Unbelievable Frustration

Kommentar von Orion6284

This last week, during the Fated SoFO, I looted a 2nd Tool.... Didnt think that was possible since I looted the tool from Lihuvium already.... Maybe Fated raids count as a different encouter?

Kommentar von Endinglife

This was the strategy that I used to farm both of these. Each week I would enter LFR on all of my toons and down Lihuvim. I got lucky and found one this way.

The second, and much 'longer' method is to farm Cyphers of the First Ones and buy the Olea Cache from Olea Manu. But before you start grinding these on alts, make sure you research the Sopranian Understanding and complete quest The Final Song and also buy the Improvised Cypher Analysis Tool, also sold by Olea Manu as this increases the number of Cyphers you receive by a third.. The best strategy for this method is to have alts. It took me a solid 65 attempts, between both methods, to get the two that are required for the mounts.

This one is a bit more grindy, but don't give up.

Kommentar von Hedvika

Does anyone know if you can farm this on multiple lockouts? Ive done 3 kills per week on several characters but not a single drop.

Kommentar von Uverkio

10.1.5 444 Ele Sham. To farm this item, I've been queueing for LFR SotFO weekly.

From Wowhead: Players can solo queue into Shadowlands LFR instances by talking with Ta'elfar, located near the Necrolord NPCs in the Enclave

Get to this NPC and queue for the Cornerstone of Creation. You'll need to kill Dausegne & the Pantheon first to get to Lihuvim. I've done this on LFR only and failed to kill the Pantheon on Normal Difficulty. Dausegne, the Pantheon & Lihuvim are mostly tank & spank at this ilvl.

Kommentar von Windrider86

Hello , got those 2 tools from Lihuvim lfr mode after 23 attempts and im done with protoform mounts .First one was from quest on my main (alts may complete the quest but not getting the tools as reward) second tool on 7th raid attempt and third tool on 23rd attempt. Need to have completed the quest line after unlocking the Sopranian Understanding (starts with ! Finding Tahli ) in order to be able to loot mats items like this .MeanwhiIe i must have opened around 30 olea caches so far ,got nothing from there . Tanky specs and bm hunter dps at level 420sh and beyond work fine to solo (confirmed) these 3 bosses on lfr mode.

Made this rarity string and worked for me , import and check it if it works for you :

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

Good luck

Kommentar von Yukawah

Important: In order to get Werkzeuge unbegreiflicher Experimente, you have to unlock Protoformsynthese (Reittier) (at least I am 90% sure that you have to do this).
To do this, you must have completed the quest Architektenneuling on the character on which you want to farm the item.

My personal tip is to go through your alts and buy Oleatruhe from it. I had 2xWerkzeuge unbegreiflicher Experimente in a total of 40 Oleatruhe.

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