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Kommentar von WoWuser123

Tried in vain for almost one hour. A warlock came and helped with portals. For both the recipe and the spherical chest on top of the room. Without help, not doable for a hunter.

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Kommentar von zealvurte

Contained in Protoformbauplan on top of an archway that you can jump to, within Rondure Alcove, one of the Locus Shift treasure rooms. You will need to have Protoformsynthese (Kampfhaustier) unlocked to see and obtain it.

To access this room, you first must:

Research Verständnis des Metrundischen and Verständnis des Akkolarischen
Complete Ein Mittel zum Zweck
Unlock the Rondure Alcove from the Anordnung des Runden Alkovens at /way #1970 50.5 27.6, between 2 platforms, on the side of a pillar (accessible from flying or via the Tertius Locus)

Next gain at least 60 Cosmic Energy and enter Gravid Repose. Use the Locus Shift to take the Interior Locus to the Inner Chamber. You will now see a new Locus Shift (the Arcae Locus) upon the platform at the north-western side of the room, which you can use to travel to the Rondure Alcove.

Applicable to PTR characters only: If you unlocked the Anordnung des Ultimus Locus or completed Ein Mittel zum Zweck before All Ch 6 Symbols Found was added, you will not have flagged, which is required to see the additional Arrangements. You will need to create a brand new character instead and complete Ein Mittel zum Zweck again.

Credit to Matjz for discovering its location, and Neryssa for finding the Arrangement.

Other Locus Shift treasure rooms:

Arrangement	Treasures
Anordnung des Gewölbten Alkovens	Prototypbauplan containing Bauplan: Gescheiterter Flitzopodenprototyp
Anordnung des Bereichernden Alkovens	Bedarfsoriginator for a weekly reward of: Pochender Kraftstein and gold Animamatrix and Animagespinst Chiffren der Ersten Genesispartikel, and a chance for Unlegierter Bronzebarren Any combination of 2 from: Chiffren der Ersten, Genesispartikel, Animagewebe, and gold Random Cypher Equipment
Anordnung des Inaktiven Alkovens	Sand, Sand überall!: Klumpiger Sandhaufen containing Geborgenes Viperidenband Glitzernder Sandhaufen containing Unglaublich uraltes Band Unbeständiger Sandhaufen containing Weggeworfenes Signet des Kartells Al Summender Sandhaufen containing Zurückgelassene Automaschleife Verformter Sandhaufen containing a random trinket for your class/role/spec Funkelnder Sandhaufen containing Edelstein der prismatischen Brillanz Tickender Sandhaufen containing Unergründlicher Anhänger
Anordnung des Prächtigen Alkovens	Zerfleddertes Astraltuch containing nothing special

Kommentar von Sipder2

To unlock battle pets from Protoform Synthesis you have to complete the quest Protoformsynthese to get Protoformsynthese (Kampfhaustier).

Bauplan: Omnipotenzialkern drop from Protoform Schematic located inside Rondure Alcove.
To access this room you have to get the Rondure Locus Arrangement to unlock Teleport to Rondure Alcove (DNT).
You can reach the Rondure Locus Arrangement from flying or by using the Locusverschiebung to Tertius Locus (need 30x Kosmische Energie).

Pre-requeriments to see Rondure Locus Arrangement:

Learn Verständnis des Metrundischen and Verständnis des Akkolarischen from Chiffrenkonsole.
Complete the Chapter 6 of Zereth Mortis Main Campaign to get Ein Mittel zum Zweck.

/way 50,8, 29,0 Cosmic Energy from mobs
/way 50,7, 31,8 Locus Shift Entrance
/way #1970 50.5 27.6 Rondure Locus Arrangement

With Teleport to Rondure Alcove (DNT) unlocked, collect more 60x Kosmische Energie and use the Locusverschiebung to Interior Locus.
Inside Interior Locus use a new Locus Shift to Rondure Alcove and get Bauplan: Omnipotenzialkern.
After get Bauplan: Omnipotenzialkern you'll receive the quest Bauplanreassimilierung: Omnipotenzialkern.
Return the quest to allows craft Omnipotenzialkern.

Materials to craft (Click on the items to check the full drop list):
300x Genesispartikel. Drop from a lot of mobs in Zereth Mortis.
1x Ungeformtes Gitter. Can drop from Destabilisierter Kern, Orientierungsloser Kern.
1x Schimmer der Animation. Can drop from Rankenüberwucherter Beschützer, Defekter Beschützer, Beherrschter Arbeiter, Überwucherter Treiber, Verderbter Architekt.

How to get Schematic: Omnipotential Core WoW: https://youtu.be/LqtJymvi-j0

Kommentar von ergh99

Reached the designated area, looted Pocobold from the Rondure Cache, but there was nothing above the arch. No schematic container object was visible or clickable.

Kommentar von Harusos

Not sure what blizzard was thinking with this particular one. The location where this schematic is located not somewhere you can walk (it has an invisible wall you cannot get past). So if you jump from the orb to the top of the door you will just fall to the ground.

However... there is one pixel on the door where you can stand. So not only do you need to jump, but you need to jump carefully to land on the edge in a small pixel so you can click it. (I had to use my paladin sprint and jump over to get to it, I did not just use a normal jump)

Here is where that pixel is located, note if I move any direction I will fall off because there is no where to stand up here.
https://imgur.com/a/hFML0ZF

Kommentar von sirloper

Blizzard's obsession with jumpy puzzles in 9.2 is horrifying. I guess they want everyone to play a warlock that is a member of the venthyr covenant to avoid most of it. Adding a screenshot of what the Rondure Alcove looks like on live. I assume the schematic is in the chest up top (i'm looking upward in the picture) as there is seemingly nothing else in the room (minus the orbs flying around that will knock you off). Good luck with this everyone!

Kommentar von Maizou

The Schematic is located on the top of a door. It only requires jumping on 3 orbs total, so if you're doing more than that, you're not going the right way. :) You wanna aim for that weird triangle shaped door. (There's pictures)

The Schematic has a ~15 minute respawn from when the last person looted it as well. (That's how long it took to respawn for the other person in the room with me at least)

Kommentar von mostpsp

Schematic is in the Rondure Alcove above one of the frames (looks like a doorway) on the edge of the room. Go to the Middle circle on the floor, jump to the Small circle, jump left to another Small circle, then straight to the Big circle. Take a leap of faith toward the wall/door and you can stick to the edge, pattern is hiding just on the other side.

If the pattern is not visible, then someone may have looted it recently.

Kommentar von swaggerbear

I wonder if there's a size requirement. I can jump from the center orb in the floor to the first medium orb fine enough (as a human), but I CANNOT jump to the next medium orb on the way to the schematic. I've watched two other folks in the room with me try too - and none of us have been able to despite trying over and over and over (and that's when we're not knocked off by those !@#$ing balls)!

It could be that we're all just stupid clumsy (I don't rule that out), but I notice that Cosmic Power increases your height. You can have between 0 and 40 by the time you're inside the Rondure Alcove. I wonder if being taller makes the jumps easier...

PS: Honestly who thought a puzzle like this would be fun?

Edit: Never mind. Tried all kinds of height changing toys and none helped. You just have to be amazing at jumping. I DID manage to Door of Shadows to halfway up the door, and then with the Whole Body Shrinka' toy, move my camera to see the schematic but....UGH still out of reach!

Edit again: Found it easier to jump all the way up to the cache and then slow fall down! Finally it's mine! What an AWFUL puzzle!

Kommentar von Jezartroz

If you're a druid- USE CAT FORM!

I could not get onto the second ball towards the doorway AT ALL after 20 minutes of trying (female troll model). I changed to cat form, and instantly I was getting on the orb every time. I think there's collision issues with certain models.

Kommentar von krabbenfang

I used Borr-Geth's Fiery Brimstone Toy from the Maw to jump into the air and then just Goblin-glidered onto the big orb. Works like a charm :)

Kommentar von sweetdandelie

I don't normally complain about features that are optional in this game. I am making an exception. It is one thing to include a jumping puzzle where if you slip up you screw up minutes of achievements. It is another to sadistically put in orbs that fling you around the room like a ping pong ball. This is the WORST designed jumping puzzle that doesn't take into account player size and such. WHO MADE THIS GAME? Sitting at your desk laughing at people are you? Ugh!

Kommentar von mythreign

If your a hunter i used cheetah aspect to make the jumps

Kommentar von Faell

There are five secret alcoves that can be reached using the Locus Shift that is unlocked while completing chapter 6 of the Zereth Mortis campaign. More information on the exact requirements to access each alcove can be found below by following the Wowhead links for their respective rewards:

Repertory Alcove - Contains a machine called the Requisites Originator which gives you six options to choose from on a presumably weekly lockout. Appears to be the primary source of Unlegierter Bronzebarren.
Rondure Alcove - Two jumping puzzles to access Bauplan: Omnipotenzialkern and Rundtruhe. The cache has a high chance to drop Pocobold. This is not the only way to obtain Pocobold though, so you may already have it.
Camber Alcove - A minigame where you drive a snail through five rings to obtain Bauplan: Gescheiterter Flitzopodenprototyp.
Dormant Alcove - Contains the seven sand piles required for the achievement Sand, Sand überall!.
Fulgor Alcove - Pocopoc can access the consoles to help you reach the Zerfleddertes Astraltuch, which doesn't appear to give anything special.

Kommentar von brizco

If you're attempting this with a friend, the Schematic has about a 10-15 minute respawn after being looted.

I was also able to use Door of Shadows on to the lip of the archway. Required some spamming until I found a sweet spot.

Kommentar von Juusanban

What a horrible and badly designed jumping idiocy!
I cannot reach the second medium sized floating ball?
And why do the displacement abilities not work here?

And finally whoever thought those balls that knock you off were needed for this has to be assigned to another department.

Kommentar von Orissan

For anyone having an issue with this trash jumping puzzle, the second jump requires a speed boost of some description. Base movement speed will never reach the distance. I used one of these Beschleunigende Sehnen and immediately became able to make the second jump every time. Any class ability that gives at least that much should also work.

The other option is to use Borr-Geths feuriger Schwefel to launch yourself near the big orb then glide or otherwise displace yourself onto it. But who knows if this gets nerfed / rendered unusable.

Kommentar von Nordrassil1

This was actually a lot less frustrating than I thought it would be. Took me 10-15 minutes total for both. I used a Kyrian Kul Tiran Hunter and didn't use anything special, but you could try borr-geth + glider; that didn't work for me, I couldn't get it to land just right on the top of the archway, and I'm also not particularly good with them. ecksdee.

For the CACHE, I used the darker orange starting orb in the corner of the room and walked up that way rather than start in the center. It was so much easier and didn't need many running jumps, just be wary of the annoying kick you off orbs. Jump, move yourself forward in-air, and stop - if you do it right your character ends up in a fairly ridiculous looking position on the side of the next orb. The Cache dropped Pocobold for me, where he can wear a candle on his head.

For the SCHEMATIC, start in the center and work your way with a few short jumps to the large orange orb in front of it. Apparently you can actually gear click the side of the wall FROM THE ORB by inching further and further towards it rather than jumping on top of the triangle archway. If you DO jump though, it seems like there's an invisible wall so you'll be in this really silly position in the air; but you can of course click it.

I used this youtube video for reference: https://youtu.be/1VXeMsSd7Ug

EDIT: My best advice for jumping to some of these orbs to is NOT press forward (run) and let your character just LAND on the orb, often times that continued running messes with your character and causes them to fall.

Kommentar von AncientAlan

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! There, I feel better!

Kommentar von imagnome

Being a dwarf just couldn't make it to the Schematic, tried lots of things , just couldnt jump far enough, then tried the celestial defenders medallion and got across 1st time, dont know why it helped but it did.

Kommentar von Tjacu

So, to get the schematic, you don't actully have to leave the last big ball, you can just grab the schematic from there. Also if you got swapblaster and you are a group, swap people up there.

Kommentar von WarcraftMyth

Use Xy'raths Ersatzkostüm, apparently, he's walking on air.

Kommentar von ptarjan

If you are a monk, use Transzendenz whenever you successfully get to a new sphere. Then if you fall off you can use Transzendenz: Transfer to get back there. It doesn't make it easier, but it makes mistakes less costly.

Kommentar von Fotogrrl69

what worked for me was to get to the big orb near where the treasure is and as someone else posted RP walk little at time and move your camera till you can see the scroll ... just a few steps is all it took for me and i could get it

Kommentar von Talihawk

You know Blizzard, if I wanted to Play Mario Brothers, I'd play that game. It's annoying enough to try to jump a billion times, but they killed any desire I had to do this with the damn balls that knock ya off constantly as you are trying to line up your jump.

Kommentar von Kyraah

There's a special place in hell for whoever designed this room.

Kommentar von mysticalos

It's not even jumping that's worst part. this is genuinely not worth doing until they at very least fix hitboxes of rotating orbs. They aren't even consistent. Sometimes they hit you from 10 yards away, sometimes it's 2 yards. You can have one pass you well off from you and punt you for no good reason. Honestly the puzzle would be fine if they just removed those and let platforming on a horridly bad engine for platforming be the only difficult part.

Kommentar von Lilyoptra

Respawn on Schematic was about 15 minutes for us. (Just hang out on the edge and wait for it.)

Kommentar von dewd

out of all the things wow is bad at, jumping is the worst. thats like the snowboard part in ff7 or bowling in gta

Kommentar von ToragTheDwarf

NOTE: These steps and info are only for the schematic, but can also be used to reach the cache at the top. Using these techniques, I managed to reach the cache on my first try.

First we must understand that the movement system in WoW is, for lack of a better term, "janky". Here is a video showing how I did it, which proves it is simple once you understand the movement mechanics, and that dwarves can in fact make the jumps:
https://youtu.be/MDjfUsNCyE4

I will go over the steps of how I achieved this along with some helpful terms and tips:
Long Jump - This is a jump that starts off with running first, then pressing the jump button.
Short Hop - Requires the player to first jump, then move forward. You will only move by a small amount, thus being able to jump to certain areas or alcoves with more precision. Best when pressing the forward/W key near the height of your jump.
Both of these jumps are best when the player presses each key in quick succession. A longer delay means a higher chance of failure. Let go of both the forward and jump key after each jump. For example, if you use W for forward movement and Spacebar for jumping, to achieve a long jump, quickly tap the W key followed by the Spacebar and then let go of both keys. Do not hold the keys!

1. Start with the first orb by either jumping on it or just walking to the top.
2. Use a long jump to reach the second orb, which is the closest available orb to the starting point, causing you to latch to the side of it. Follow up with a short hop to reposition yourself on the top of the second orb you just landed on. Remember to let go of both the forward and jump keys after each jump!
3. Long jump to the third orb on the left, and repeat a short hop to get to the top.
4. Use a long jump to latch on to the final large 4th orb. Follow up with a short hop to reach the top.
5. Long jump to the arch-like structure and you will latch on to the side on an invisible ledge. This is sufficient enough to loot the schematic.

I hope this helps anyone who is having issues with this part of the puzzle and that the instructions I've written down make sense, as I do have a bit of trouble explaining things.

Semi-unrelated. Not necessary to read:
To add to the movement system remark, when Burning Crusade was current (not the classic version), I would jump up several hills and mountains near Terrokar Forest to reach a daily quest area (https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Razorthorn_Rise - for Shattered Sun Offensive daily quests) without the use of a flying mount, as I didn't want to spend my gold for the flying training at the time. I used a combination of the jump techniques I have listed above, as well as utilizing a running jump with my ground mount in certain spots. I suppose my experience with jumping in such a way made the puzzle for this schematic not too troublesome.

Kommentar von zajlent

I just did this on me my mage(Undead Female). I came prepared with dubble charges of Door of Shadows and "jumping Bracers" from the ZM zone.

I started the journey with 100 Cosmic Energy. I had 39 left when I entered the room with the jumping-puzzle, and I was still huge from the Cosmic Energy buff, which made the jumping a non-issue.

I jumped up on the ball at the edge(the one half-buried at the edge of the room) and jumped normaly to the top.

I didn't use any teleport/blink/bracers/DoS. Just traditional jumping onto the floating orbs.

I'd guess that that's the reason why many players has a problem with this specific jumping'puzzle(myself included untill I went there about 30 minutes ago).
They must have designed it for "Enlarged" characters by the Cosmic Energy buff.

I did not recieve the Schematic though. Guess it has a drop-chance.

I hope this helps my fellow players.

Kommentar von DebL

As a DH i got this easy after getting frustrated sooooo many times having failed. Once you get to the last big orb, DON'T multi tap your space bar to jump and glide USE the actual "Glide" button. Jump and glide. Tried, tested and worked multiple times for me.

Kommentar von Treekachu

Are you an engineer? Gnomischer Gravitationsbrunnen + Goblingleiter to the top of the structure at 43,41 = success. Use your overhead camera angle to see it peering out from just past the lip in order to get the wheel cog upon mouseover.

Kommentar von biggaz13

If you only want this Schematic and 'to hell with the Rondure Cache' then yes the Borr-Geth's Fiery Brimstone with glider to the top of the door ledge is easy. Even if you hit the wall above the ledge, no stress, just keep pushing forward until you float down and land on it. The schematic is hidden right behind that ledge. You have to move your camera right around to see it.

Kommentar von Quaeras

If you're a hunter with Trailblazer, the last jump (to the lower, large orb) is the hard part. Use cheetah, but WAIT for the 90% movement speed to expire. 30% with trailblazer is just enough to make the final orb.

Kommentar von Boozewomen

As everyone has stated jumping form ball to ball can be tough. One thing that work for me was .... From the middle half ball I jumped to the two small balls. When faced with the middle sized ball I used the Wisp Amulet toy. Using the spacebar I rose up as high as it would let me, I then jumped forward onto the middle sized ball and then repeated the process to get me to the ledge so I was able to obtain the Omnipotential Core schematic. This is my first time posting here so don't beat me up too badly. Thank you

Kommentar von banditkeith

why does blizz put this garbage in the game. who do they think actually enjoys ripping their hair out as they spend 15 minutes jumping on f$%!ing balls

Kommentar von alpanhell

Referring to the Bauplan: Omnipotenzialkern As many others have said this is very badly done. It really makes obvious how out-dated the graphics are here.

The teleporter (dimensional translater) you get on some of the Cypher gear here simply did not work. I finally had to just jump to the door frame where the schematic was (first jumping on the spheres to get close) and took me a ton of tries, because actually the way the graphics are done you can't land on the door frame(which is why I'm sure the teleporter didn't work either). Like some have said you literally have to land on some pixel which has you graphically standing on air while you loot the schematic. Utterly stupid.

Also, kind of amazed that so few talk about the Rundtruhe which is also in this room. You might as well get both.

I've also noticed a few of the instructions on this thread are about getting the Rundtruhe (people are confused as to what they're doing). So if you're after the Schematic (as you should be on this page) be careful what you're reading.

Kommentar von Calyope

I tried this for about an hour until I saw the comment about a druid swapping to cat form and wondered if the same could be true for Shamans. It is! Shamans who are struggling to make the jump to the third orb (second small orb), swap to ghost wolf and make your jumps. It was 1000% easier doing it that way. It seems that, because you're transformed, you have a larger landing area so you're able to hit the tiny pixels needed to make the landings.

Kommentar von Darkstar115

Please be noted. My girl friend who is an undead priest COULD NOT jump onto the second smaller ball on the way to the arch. She tried for no less than 30 minutes. She used Orb of Deception, which turned her into a night elf and BAM! First time jumping to the second ball she got up.

Kommentar von Barzona

I have found that using slow fall makes every jump after the first significantly easier, I managed to reproduce this a few times in a row.

One note, make sure you have the buff for all jumps after the first. It will place you on the other side of the ledge from the object, do not jump to try to get to the object, just pivot your camera and collect the schematic.

I cannot attest to other forms of slow fall, but I imagine they should work to identical effect.

Kommentar von Wolf699

For the Hunters: Hop from the floor on to the middle large orb. Jump to the small orb. Back up slightly and jump to the small orb to the right (beyond the two tiny orbs). Now turn your back to the large orb (that is closest to the Schematic, above the "door" ledge), center yourself on the top of the small orb, and move your camera way out and down (so you can see the edge of the large orb), Tap move to adjust the line back towards the large orb, while staying on the top of the small orb. Now jump straight up and disengage. If you have the line right you will land on the large orb. Now tap move gently towards the schematic until you can click on it (no need to jump to the ledge). Celebrate and curse the WOW developer that thought this would be fun.

For reference, speed boosts (Aspect of the Cheetah, Darkflight) do work to make the jump from the first small orb to the left small orb possible, but I found that it was too hard to "stop" on the second orb.

Also, as noted in other comments, the Boor-Geth's Fiery Brimstone and Goblin Glider do work here. But I found it hard to control, and
found this strat while waiting the 20 minute recovery time.

Kommentar von Agrias

I never knew that jumping in WoW was this dog *!@#.

Kommentar von Hourai

I don't know if anyone else experienced it too, or if I am the only unlucky idiot who got screwed. But I managed to get past those infernal obstacles and get to the treasure after about 30 minutes. But Fate screwed me over so that in the orb, there was no schematic inside. Also. whoever made these obstacles is EVIL.

I only spent 30 minutes on it and I say in full honestly that I would rather farm for the Lucid Nightmare mount again while being chased by merlocks that can kill me easily. It's psychological torture too. Inside the Endless Halls, you expect it to be difficult siince you are looking for 5 things in a maze that is as big as Azeroth. But knowing that the treasure you desire is hanging less than 50 meters above your head and you cannot get it no matter how hard you try, is much worse in my opinion.

Now, I've spent a little while convincing myself to try and get that schematic once a week becuase my patience will crash and burn if I don't have a break.

Kommentar von Saffier

As a mage, casting Slow Fall helped me to be able to jump to the next small orb. I didn't manage to do it without it after trying for way too long.

Kommentar von frozenfire22

SUMMARY: WENT ALL THE WAY TO THE TOPMOST ORB, THEN USED TOY TO SLOW FALLING SPEED ONTO THE ORB IN FRONT OF THE DOOR

Venthyr warlock here - Door of Shadows does not work. Some people were able to spam it at just the right spot and apparently got it, but I was not willing to spend an hour.

SO, here's how I got it: Went all the way up to the topmost orb (not the orb with the cache in it, right before it), then quickly used the Hearty Dragon Plume toy and jumped off towards the big orb right in front of the doorway where the schematic is and made it with a slight turn at the end so I didn't overshoot it. Then, drag your camera so it's looking down on the top of the door, and ooch (yes, ooch) your way forward in TINY steps until you're about to fall of the orb, and you'll be close enough to loot it. Do not try to jump on the door. DO NOT TRY TO JUMP FROM THE FIRST HALF ORB IN THE FLOOR, TO THE SECOND ORB, THEN OVER TO THE BIG ORB, IT JUST DOESNT WORK.

Thank you for coming to my ted talk and I will now go buy a wig to replace all the hair I pulled out trying to accomplish this. Best of luck, but better yet, decide that you can live your life without this darn thing.

Kommentar von natefoldan

This is actually the dumbest thing in all of WoW. And this is coming from someone who beat Captain Skyshatter race back when it was current (that was the previous dumbest thing in WoW). The only way someone could ever understand how terrible of a thing this is is to experience it themselves. My assumption is a disgruntled dev who was on their way out the door designed this as some jaded last act.

Kommentar von FlipperPA

Bring a Warlock friend! Demonic Gateway works for both loot spots in this room. The Gateway will APPEAR to be on the ground, but it will actually send you where you need to go!

For the treasure, target the orb next to the orb you can loot at the top center. From the center ground orb, cast your gateway to be on the very top quarter of the orb next to the loot orb. Then take the gateway, and you can loot the loot orb.
For the Schematic: Omnipotential Core, stand on the center ground orb and cast your gateway to the TOP of the door. The schematic is right behind the lip, you'll be able to see and loot it once you use the gateway.

Kommentar von Kiria16939

getting to the cache wasn't bad, but getting to the schematic is impossible without venth or lock gate, it won't register both forward movement and jump at the same time half the time so you keeping falling and the orb you're supposed to stand on to jump to get it isn't high enough

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