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Kommentar von 18615

The next step up from flask of titans. This is one of those discovery recipes found by making random potions.

Kommentar von 26543

Discovered it while making a bunch of Ironshield pots. FYI, you don't need an alch specialization to discover the new flasks (nor does it matter which specialization you are, if you've already picked one). Extra flask procs are possible when making flasks with elixir specialization. The new flask recipes can only be discovered by making pots that are new to the expansion. Now go forth and prosper, young lad.

Kommentar von bahimi

Learned this yesterday while making Super Healing Potions, no specialization yet, so it is possible to discover flasks w/o one as mentioned above.

Kommentar von raldara

Discovered while making Fel Mana potions. I have no specialization.

Kommentar von 13098

So you're saying if you make enough Fel Mana potions, you can potentially learn Flask of Fort.? Can anyone verify this, and if so, which other skills can be learned from making pot's, flask's, etc...

Kommentar von Catharsys

It's random. I got mine off of a 300+ alchemy skill. It was my first discovered skill.

Kommentar von 13072

Do you know If a 375 Master Transmuter can discover anything by making grey pots...like Major Healing, Major and adepts???
Just made over 1000 pots and notthing yet.

Kommentar von uphir

Which pots / elixirs are people discovering this off of? I have a theory that the type of flask could be related to that.

For me, it was Super Healing Potions.

Kommentar von leeloo

Discovered this today while making Super Mana Potions on my priest. This is my 3rd discovery so far w/ alchemy. I'm a transmute specialist. What pot you're making at the time as well as your specialty have nothing to do with whether or not you make a discovery. It's completely random.

Kommentar von 22703

On the 2.1 test realms, these now only give 500hp and 10 defence rating.

Kommentar von 44173

I seriously think the discovery chance depends on what potion/elixir you're creating.
Discovered Flask of Fortification while making Super Healing potions (as most of the people above) and Flask of Relentless Assault while making Elixirs of Major Agility.

Kommentar von 21350

Old stats were 1500hp and +30 defense
Old mats were 20 lichen, 10 thistle, and the same one fel lotus.

The rarest item of the recipe was the lotus before, and that didn't change so IMO this is pretty much your standard item nerf. However you can now get away with farming only these mats because it's all you can use, as compared to before when most raiders were expected to farm mats for 3-4 different elixirs.

Kommentar von 12979

well, i made elixir of major agility when i discovered flask of fortification, and i got flask of relentless assult while making adepts elixirs. and another alchymist from my guild got 2 other flask's from making elixir of major shadow power.

i do not belive theres certain elixirs or pots that gives you a chance to learn a special flask, just that its a certain % chance everytime you make elixirs or pots.

Kommentar von 58789

Does anyone know if flasks can still proc of Elixirs spec?

Kommentar von 52665

Learned this as a Master of Transmutation, while making Draenic Wisdom. When you consider that this takes the place of both Battle and Guardian elixir's post 2.1.0, this really isnt that good a discovery.

poor me.

Kommentar von Methadone

Elixir of Major Agility (B) + Elixir of Major Defense (G) = 3136 tank points
Elixir of Mastery (B) + Elixir of Major Defense (G) = 2976 tank points
Flask of Fortification (B+G) = 2898 tank points

Kommentar von ravage

Just learned this while making 12 Major Healing Potions....lol

Kommentar von 58086

Just discovered this in shatt while making some Elixir of Draenic Wisdom's...

Not sure if this was one of the newer potions put in the game or not, couldn't recall exactly and was unsure to make them based on actually getting a discovery proc since as a warrior this pot has no value to me at all.. sure enough after making a batch of the draenic wisdom's scored one of the best tanking flasks in game <3

Happy hunting guys!

Kommentar von 35086

Just discovered this at level 53, alchemy 332/375, while making Elixir of Healing Power. Nice surprise ;)

Kommentar von 77462

Just discovered this one. Level 70, 375 Alch, second discovery, learned making a batch of 20 Elixir of Healing Power.

The freaky thing? My first discovery, Super Rejuvenation Potion (which I was a little disappointed by), was ten potions earlier.

If you'll excuse me, I'm gonna go huddle in the corner out of fear at the long odds.

Kommentar von laughingnome

I'm a lvl 57 and I was making a batch of "Adept's Elixir" and when I hit 316 in alchemy I was awarded this. Seems to be random, but you don't have to be so high in Alchemy as previously stated. It requires Alchemy Lab, and so I have to find out how or where to get that. Maybe I am too low for it? A search on wowhead turned up nothing about it.
: (

oh... doing a search on the net I see that it is a place I have to go to, much like how my engineer has to go to a place to make his stuff.

Kommentar von 74890

Just discovered this. Was making 22 super mana pots and it hit on the last one. Gonna be interesting getting the mats. Will have to advertise. ;) Was confused at first as I have never had a discovery. Thought i had leveled in the middle of Org or something. :P

Kommentar von 121775

This is learned by making level 60+ potions. You get some weird message in yellow.

Kommentar von Ludwick

Requirements to make a discovery

You must be crafting a potion, elixir, flask or performing a transmutation that was added in TBC.

As a rule of thumb that's anything that is learnt from a master alchemy trainer, dropped from a mob in outland or purchased from a vendor in outland. The only real exceptions are the pre-TBC flasks that have been made available from faction vendors in outland.

NOT requirements to make a discovery

You don't need to be in outland
You don't need a mastery
You don't need to be 375 alchemy
You don't need to be level 70
You don't need to craft yellow or orange recipes to make discoveries. Even grey recipes can proc discoveries
You don't need to be crafting a related recipe *except* in the case of cauldrons (You can discover flasks when making potions for example)

List of recipes learned by discovery (accurate as of 29/01/2008)

Flasks

Potions

Super Rejuvenation Potion

Transmutes

Cauldrons - To discover these you need to be crafting the related major protection potion. Cauldron of Major Holy Protection is believed to be non-existent. The discovery of these recipes is much more likely.
Cauldron of Major Arcane Protection
Cauldron of Major Fire Protection
Cauldron of Major Frost Protection
Cauldron of Major Nature Protection
Cauldron of Major Shadow Protection

Kommentar von 114332

I discovered this at level 59 while leveling my alchemy with Ironshield pots. I was not aware at the time that you could discover new recipes at random, and was quite surprised.

Kommentar von 89250

Discovered this while making a few Elixirs of Major Fortitude. Proc'd at 324 skill at level 60, no specialty.

Kommentar von 189321

My first flask discovery. Discovered whilst creating Super Mana Pots. Pretty handy too, since my alchemist is a Prot Warrior!

Kommentar von Kaleb

does anyone know the stats with mixologist? other than 4h duration.

Kommentar von 126427

I can confirm that you can still discover this flask while making the WOTLK flasks. I got it while making Flask of the Frost Wyrm.

Kommentar von 261533

Feel free to downrate this or correct me if I'm wrong, but at a glance, it would seem as if this were superior to the new WotLK flask which gives 650 hp. This one gives 150 fewer hit points, but you have 10 defense rating, which equates to around 2 defense @ 80. Now, if you go for the new flask, as soon as you take your first hit, "BAM!" That 150 health is gone. However, the 10 defense rating will be providing just that much more mitigation, it will be applied to your entire health pool during the entire boss fight, which are typically several minutes long.

So I am of the opinion that the new flask just boosts your pool for a bit more, while the old flask has the defense. Defense is the gift that keeps on giving throughout the whole fight. Better, I think.

Kommentar von fish10

I discovered this today while making Mighty Shadow Protection Potions. This was quite a surprise since that is a Lich King potion. I didn't think Lich King alchemy would trigger discovery for lower level stuff. Also was surprised since I thought that normally discoveries occurred in the same category.

Kommentar von Nachtfrostt

i have discovered this a few minutes ago and just went here to look over what the hell is this. i mean it is kind of surprising when after two years being an alchemist and a transmute master you think there is no potions left to discover and you just found a lotus while finishing your Argent Crusade daily quests and just decided to make a frostwyrm flask and then SUDDENLY it dings and you discover this. i was like "uhm... saturday morning delivers".

Kommentar von Nuthar

Can be learned through Indestructible Potions (and hence, probably any WotLK potions).

Kommentar von Erethzium

I just learned this while making Crazy Alchemist's Potion...

Kommentar von brudarek

Anyone learned this more recently than 2010? Burned a ton of mats trying to discover it with no luck so far, only BC discovery I'm missing.

Kommentar von lePickles

I just learned this recipe from doing the Riddle of Steel transmute sitting in the Stormwind bank, so it doesn't seem to require BC recipes anymore

Kommentar von henshinhero

Discovered this recipe today at 538 Alchemy after making about 150 Zornelixiers. I've got 1 BC transmute and 3 BC flasks yet to discover, gonna need a LOT more herbs.

Kommentar von Nereeza

Discovered this recipe (one of my last ones) earlier today after crafting multiple Fläschchen der Windes, but to be honest, i'd pretty much given up trying to get it and was pleasantly surprised..

.. set yourself a goal (such as getting the guild cauldron - Better Leveling Through Chemistry - (if you haven't gotten it yet)) then buy up herbs to craft the various flasks, and best of luck to you!

All told, i crafted about 400-500 Winds and Titanic Strengths before i got the Discovery - hopefully these older recipes'll be available on alchemy trainers with the new expansion!

Cata herbs'll likely drop in price as we get close to Warlords!

Kommentar von revrob

-Discovered today making Elixir of Mighty Strength-

Kommentar von trut3ch

Since I can't find a current thread relating specifically to Burning Crusade 'Discovery!' recipes I decided to post this in the threads relating to the 'Discovery!' Flask Recipes.

Level 100 Worgen Druid, Darkscythe-Malorne.

After having completed most of the Wrath recipes through Northrend Research, I began gathering Burning Crusade recipes. Once I was down to 'Discovery!' recipes, I came to wowhead looking for threads of the best way to discover them. There's a lot of information, but no one has provided any proof as to how they have been doing it. Most of the ways described in these threads involve either a) a lot of materials, b) a lot of gold. I found a cheaper recipe that has provided results for my Alchemists, and several guildmates Alchemists AND I've provided Screenshots.. so you know it works.

Using just the Crazy Alchemist Potion recipe (skill level 400) I've learned all the 'Discovery!' recipes except the transmutes. It only requires Goldclover x2 to craft and Goldclover is, by far, the easiest herb to farm in Northrend. It exists in at least 5 zones (although Grizzly Hills 1st and Shalozar Basin 2nd provided the fastest and easiest farm).

Also of note: During The Burning Crusade, I had a Rogue Alchemist and I distinctly remember gathering enough materials to craft ~ 1000 Super Mana Potions and I discovered nearly all the 'Discovery!' recipes pretty fast. During WoD, my wife leveled a Shaman to 70 and, using this same method, discovered all of the 'Discovery!' recipes crafting only Super Mana Potions very quickly.

At 100 on my Druid, I spent about 35k gold on materials to craft Super Mana Potions and got 0 'Discovery!' recipes. I don't want to suggest that Level played a part in her easily discovering all these recipes, but it seems odd that on a level 70 character the 'Discovery!' recipes came pretty fast on a TBC recipe and at level 100 I got 0 from TBC recipes.

I know, you're all going to say, unlucky RNG, and you're probably right, but within 100 crafts of Crazy Alchemist Potion I got my first 'Discovery!' and within 500 crafts of Crazy Alchemist Potion, I learned all the 'Discovery!' flasks.

I hope this information helps someone.

https://i.imgsafe.org/3407e87eac.jpg

https://i.imgsafe.org/340aab0676.jpg

EDIT: I submitted 2 screenshots of 2 discoveries using this method, but the guidelines state, 'do not include chat' for submitting screenshots. This is the only way to prove the method works. Hopefully, the screenshots get approved. If not, hopefully the links I provided in the post will meet with their approval. Also, you can find Darkscythe - US Malorne Level 100 Worgen Druid online pre-raid Thursdays/Sundays 7PM Eastern for help or additional information regarding any of my posts. Thanks and Good Luck!

Kommentar von Aleona

Discovering recipes may have changed with Dragonflight. The comments here will tell you you can craft Outland or later recipes to discover these flasks. I crafted hundreds of Mighty Arcane Protection Potions and not a single discovery.

I discovered all of the Outland flasks within a few hundred crafts of Trank des verrückten Alchemisten.

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